Holydarkness and Casino Disputes—Something’s Fishy

[Horsbyname]

Bro, I'm still trying to understand what your endgame is here.

Its already well established that nobody outside of the casino can do anything for you. It does not matter at this point what holydarkness said or did -- that will not change the fact that you don't have access to your betting data. No matter what you say or do, nobody here will be able to help you get your money back. Basically you're wasting your time.

Well, If you are not getting it, Its mean you don't want to-as you stated earlier, But I don't know what brought you back here to the thread? It doesn't mater what he said?  Cant you see his moves? He is defending a casino and dropping his statements for the sake of the casino.

You guys are ignoring so many things.

Right above you post I posted his statements showing clearly his U-turns on his statements and a proof of him coaching casino representative, why don't you read that?

[nutildah]

Again, what is it you're trying to achieve here?

After a year of inactivity or whatever, your betting history was deleted. So there's no way to support your claims one way or the other. Nobody here can do anything for you. And you've turned on the one person who was actually trying to help you.

I won't post in your threads anymore and it will soon become apparent if you're just here to troll people.

[Horsbyname]

Again, what is it you're trying to achieve here?

After a year of inactivity or whatever, your betting history was deleted. So there's no way to support your claims one way or the other. Nobody here can do anything for you. And you've turned on the one person who was actually trying to help you.

I won't post in your threads anymore and it will soon become apparent if you're just here to troll people.

I am not trolling anyone, at all its you whos trolling others, I just posted what i saw and witnessed, A high profile user here is openly supporting a casino without a valid reason and users like you is coming in support of him, all I am trying is to let other know how this forum work and how Holydarknees help casinos, How he coach casinos representatives in private massages. Ofc I will always follow him and will let others know when it's come to Duckdice.io.

I have posted all the evidence of how he turned on his statements for the sake of a casino and yet you are coming with theories and advising me instead of asking a person to be honest.

You already have opposed my flag against duckdice.io without a valid reason, yet you are posting things that "I will not support you", just to let other know not to support me? Stop it.

Holydarkness is not honest, and I will not recommend any person to share things with him in private, otherwise he coaches casinos(I have proofs) and tell them what to post in the public and what holydarkness will post after that to rubber stamp casinos statements.

[nutildah]

You already have opposed my flag against duckdice.io without a valid reason, yet you are posting things that "I will not support you", just to let other know not to support me? Stop it.

Uhh it was like 2 weeks since your post, and you're respoding to it now. Well I wouldn't have bothered to say anything except for that I have a reason to oppose the flag: it doesn't have any grounds to stand on. The casino doesn't have your betting history, and you have no proof/evidence that your claims are true. I thought I'd owe you the reason why I'm opposing the flag out of common courtesy.

Holydarkness is not honest, and I will not recommend any person to share things with him in private, otherwise he coaches casinos(I have proofs) and tell them what to post in the public and what holydarkness will post after that to rubber stamp casinos statements.

Yeah... Even if what you say is true, that has no bearing on your situation, which has been explained by yourself and others ad nauseum.

[GxSTxV]

My honest review about Holydarkness: he is one of the most reliable and helpful guys you could ever come across when it comes to casino gambling related issues and providing assistance. He also pushes support teams to respond to cases or accusations made in the forum against well known casinos that are actively promoting their sites here. That’s why I doubt you even made the effort to count how many people this one member alone has helped resolving their issues often because of misunderstandings or lack of communication from both sides.

After reading your OP and a few of your replies, it's clear to me that you have a personal issue or some form of hatred toward Holydarkness. The real issue here is that he speaks the truth and always backs his statements with evidence and facts. You, on the other hand haven’t provided a single piece of clear evidence to support your claim that he is helping or defending casinos for his interests.

This forum has always stood for evidence based and logical discussion. While anyone is free to create a topic and make accusations like yours now,  there are no restrictions on that, however, support only comes when your claims are backed by proof. You re free to accuse him, but unless you can substantiate your words then no one will stand with you. Without proof you come off as nothing more than an angry liar imo.

[Horsbyname]

Without proof you come off as nothing more than an angry liar imo.

You are right, No one is going to support me since this is what going on in this forum, No one's post against t a high-level user in this forum-and if someone's do, all members like you will start posting without reading the post even. You at least read the post before you spit something

I have posted all the evidence but you don't want to read it, Holydarkness coaches the casinos and its proven already.

Here is the Proof: this is what I proved already, If you think this is not proving that Holydarkness is Helping casinos only against the users let me.

If you read the Thread I wrote there that Holydarkness Coaching casinos in private and ask them what to post and when to post, and now holydarkness by mistake spited

I feel like holydarkness coaches them, like what to post now, what to excuse, dodge the hard questions. And then holydarkness will appear in the post with a ton of questions making a way for the casinos to get a point and make it an excuse. Am I wrong? Check my case you will see how he ignore to ask from duckdice.io representative to prove his accusations, instead he asked me to prove that you are not a scammer and duckdice.io is falsely accusing you, Which I did and he dropped that after.

Here what he stated, so weird, Aren’t you a dark bridge between casinos and users?

He will not. I encouraged him not to and he, as DuckDice representative, agreed. Not because you're right and they're wrong, but rather because you don't deserve anymore attention from DuckDice following all of their evidence and explanation given.

Thus, they leave you for good, as there's nothing more to add.

And now, with everything made abundantly clear in my other post, it's my time to take my leave.

Having said that, you confessed now that you were coaching them this entire time, its mean I was right, you are coaching them, you are the darkest bridge between casinos and Users, once you get consent from users you let the casino to pass you (Dark Bridge) that’s why you were offering again and again to be the bridge between me and Duckdice.io.

And now, with everything made abundantly clear in my other post, it's my time to take my leave.

Instead of clearing things you created a mess, you dropped your statements- you let the casino to pass, without providing any proofs of what we were agreed on, your 9 years’ reputation is nothing in front of few bucks as I believe now.
You can leave ofc and I regret it to trust you, but thanks to the forum where everything is clearly posted and you are exposed, this thread will follow you forever. I will update it where you made statements and where you dropped it for the sake of casinos.

[nutildah]

I have posted all the evidence but you don't want to read it,

That's the thing: you don't actually have any evidence. You presented a claim about DuckDice bets not being provably fair over a year after you stopped gambling on the site. No matter what you say here, it doesn't change the fact that your claims aren't supported by any evidence.

Holydarkness

Yes, the one person who really went out of their way to try to help you... You're still obsessed with him. Again, regardless of what you write here, it doesn't change the reality of the situation, which is you don't have evidence to back your claims.

[Horsbyname]

You're still obsessed with him. Again, regardless of what you write here, it doesn't change the reality of the situation, which is you don't have evidence to back your claims.

Holydarkness dropped all his statements all the written agreements just to support duckdice.io, upon which points we were agreed and for what he was supposed to be a bridge, He completely ignore those points and helped duckdice.io to pass him (Dark bridge)

He never asked them where is the evidences of Kirito89 accusations which kirito89 was about to post in public.

Anyway lets come to the proofs point.

Kirirto89 you have to show your evidences of me Sending blackmailing emails for 0.01btc
2. Trustpilot link- that my review was posted from the same email you was blackmailed from for 0.01 btc.
3. That I didn’t played on 15.5% chances but 33% chances.
4. You have provide evidences that the blackmailing email you have received is from the same email similar to mine but different with one later.


We are at the point where Kirito89 gotta back his accusations. I’ve accepted your deal, gave consent already Now the ball’s in his court.

This is what we were agreed on, and what he did? just posted a theory that he saw there was no lose. You still believe he is fair person? Its not only me who doubt him, there is a lot of others out there asking him if he is a real representative of the casino.

[nutildah]

You still believe he is fair person?

Yeah, I absolutely do. He should get paid for what he does. He's kind of a rockstar in the Scam Accusations section and has helped scores of disgruntled gamblers there over the years. Obviously he can't help everybody. But he is as fair as you're going to get around here, for better or for worse.

Its not only me who doubt him, there is a lot of others out there asking him if he is a real representative of the casino.

He is not a real representative of any casino, as far as I know.

[Horsbyname]

He is not a real representative of any casino, as far as I know.

Having said that, Did you read this part?

Anyway lets come to the proofs point.

Kirirto89 you have to show your evidences of me Sending blackmailing emails for 0.01btc
2. Trustpilot link- that my review was posted from the same email you was blackmailed from for 0.01 btc.
3. That I didn’t played on 15.5% chances but 33% chances.
4. You have provide evidences that the blackmailing email you have received is from the same email similar to mine but different with one later.


We are at the point where Kirito89 gotta back his accusations. I’ve accepted your deal, gave consent already Now the ball’s in his court.

Did you asked holydarkness why he didn't cover the whole agreement but just a point of it without proof? No you will not becouseee

[nutildah]

Did you asked holydarkness why he didn't cover the whole agreement but just a point of it without proof? No you will not becouseee

Because we both know it doesn't matter. It doesn't matter if Kirito89's claims are true or not because it has zero bearing on your case. Nothing holydarkness can say or do will affect the outcome of your case, so its ridiculous for you to keep picking on him. The fact remains that you waited over a year before deciding that your gameplay at DuckDice was the result of a rigged provably fair system, and you have no evidence to back up your claims.

[JiiBs]

It’s been a while since I joined this forum. I have been watching Holydarkness how he jumps into  cases against casinos and defend them.

at first I thought it is just in my case, but I have noticed a pattern, when someone’s raise voice against a casino specially against BC.Game.io holydarkness will step in and suddenly it feels like the casino is on right side and the OP is scammer.

Contrary to what you’ve said here, I’ve actually seen him take the sides of logic to what case is being presented and the evidence at hand. In fact, I’ve seen Holydarkness have to ask questions on the casinos as to why users are being kept in the shades and even provide useful informations as per directives to users having any kind of dispute with casinos on where to forward their complaints and whom they ought to be speaking with. You find the user in a lot of these compliant and resolutions but, it’s not always in the side of the casinos as far as I’ve observed.

[Horsbyname]

Did you asked holydarkness why he didn't cover the whole agreement but just a point of it without proof? No you will not becouseee

Because we both know it doesn't matter. It doesn't matter if Kirito89's claims are true or not because it has zero bearing on your case. Nothing holydarkness can say or do will affect the outcome of your case, so its ridiculous for you to keep picking on him. The fact remains that you waited over a year before deciding that your gameplay at DuckDice was the result of a rigged provably fair system, and you have no evidence to back up your claims.

You completely forget that he is a representative of a casino, He said I blackmailed them for 0.01 btc, and called me a scammer, he asked my permission to post the proof of me sending them emails and trying to blackmail them.

Why doesn't it matter if he blackmail some ones for his own benefits? He blackmailed me and ppl like you and holydarkness stand beside him, while I prove it that he is nothing but a blackmailer who blackmail those users who speak against them in public forms to lower their voices or to weaken their reputation so others will not take it serious.

I will post complete evidences of where he accused me and blackmailed so you can get the point, at this stage I believe you didn't get the point or you just overviewed it.

Holydarkness was suppose to be the bridge, But he completely let pass the Duckdice.io without asking for a single evidence. He completely drop what point at we were agreed.

He took U-turns on his statements when its doesn't fit for Duckdice.io. I have proof of him taking Turns on his statements, he 2 types of statements for the same points and at both he defended Duckdice.io

[nutildah]

Again, none of this changes the outcome of your situation, so I don't know why you continue to bring any of this up. For the 10th time, you have no evidence to support your claims. Therefore, there is nothing that anyone here (or anywhere) can do to help you. It seems like you are just slinging mud at Duckdice, who already said they will not give into your demands. This will be my last post addressing your concerns as this conversation has clearly run its course.

[CharlieSheen99]

This guy is obviously in the casino's side. No matter what casinos does. Betpanda acuses people of doing fraud, therefore they steal all the money and deposits. They don't show absolutely any proof. Just accuse someone of doing fraud and take all the funds. And you will see our friend Holydarkness defending them. The guy is a fraud himself.

[albon]

This guy is obviously in the casino's side. No matter what casinos does. Betpanda acuses people of doing fraud, therefore they steal all the money and deposits. They don't show absolutely any proof. Just accuse someone of doing fraud and take all the funds. And you will see our friend Holydarkness defending them. The guy is a fraud himself.

He is on the side of what’s right, whether the right is with the players or the casinos. He's a neutral person and does not get paid for trying to help with the issues of casino players, as long as they haven’t violated the policies of the casino they play on. If someone violates the casino's policies or rules, or is a cheater player, he bears his own responsibility.

I've known him for years, and he's not a fraud. Anyone who calls him that is completely wrong. What he does should be appreciated, not accused without evidence. Our friend doesn't side with casinos; fraudulent casinos, he doesn't hesitate to call them a fraud. He is a person with a good reputation, and your opinion should be kept to yourself. If you don’t like what Holy is doing, then you can simply solve your problems on your own without anyone’s help.

[CharlieSheen99]

This guy is obviously in the casino's side. No matter what casinos does. Betpanda acuses people of doing fraud, therefore they steal all the money and deposits. They don't show absolutely any proof. Just accuse someone of doing fraud and take all the funds. And you will see our friend Holydarkness defending them. The guy is a fraud himself.

He is on the side of what’s right, whether the right is with the players or the casinos. He's a neutral person and does not get paid for trying to help with the issues of casino players, as long as they haven’t violated the policies of the casino they play on. If someone violates the casino's policies or rules, or is a cheater player, he bears his own responsibility.

I've known him for years, and he's not a fraud. Anyone who calls him that is completely wrong. What he does should be appreciated, not accused without evidence. Our friend doesn't side with casinos; fraudulent casinos, he doesn't hesitate to call them a fraud. He is a person with a good reputation, and your opinion should be kept to yourself. If you don’t like what Holy is doing, then you can simply solve your problems on your own without anyone’s help.

I am not the only one that think so. Various people think the same. Do you see any other thread putting in the knowledge of the community that an user is working on the bookmaker's side?
This is very simple. This guy is defending that a bookmaker can STEAL the money and deposits of a client, just because THEY SAY without any proof, that the client is commiting fraud.
This is very simple to understand, if the guy defend this point of view, he is in the bookmaker side, if he changes his mind and recognize that a bookmaker CANNOT STEAL the money of a client without any proof of nothing, I will change my mind about him. But he will not do it. Very simple to understand.

[gh0573d]

Sorry, but reading this thread just makes me sick.

OP: If you are willing to take a public route to defend yourself and call someone scammer, make sure that you have substantial evidence for doing so. Because, it is you against thousands of players and reputation that that operator built over the years being on this forum, vs you/me and others posting same accusations against operators.

From a very little public interaction with @holydarkness in regards to my case, I am pretty confident that he is only trying to validate story of mine (and others) in regards to better understanding the issues we have, so he can mediate (which appears he's doing voluntarily) the case using his connections.

When I signed up to tell my story and accuse someone (in my case BC.game) of being scammers, I prepared myself for the worst. Because I am someone registered just few days ago, while they were in industry way longer.

So, yeah, I'm damn sure that I'm gonna have to go through some thorough questioning, but I'm prepared. Because at the end of it, I have:

a) nothing to hide, I was transparent and will be until the end of it
b) nothing to lose and hell, a lot to win

@holydarkness, keep drilling your cases and whatever comes at you (even if I "change my mind"), just ignore it. At the end, it's something you signed up for voluntarily and at the end, you don't need to justify your actions to nobody.

Cheers!

[nutildah]

^^^
Agreed. Whether people want to admit it or not, Holydarkness is a real asset of this forum. Not only has he helped resolve countless cases in the favor of the player, but he's willing to spend the time really getting into the weeds of casino complaints, whether they have any merit, and whether or not its something that a casino representative can help resolve.

He brings hope to casino victims and traffic to this forum, giving it a much-needed use case in a time when the forum is sinking more into obsolescence each day.

[CharlieSheen99]

Could you provide here, some other cases where Holydarkness acted in a "normal way"?
What i see so far is Holydarkness giving the reason to a Bookmaker when they accuse someone of doing fraud (Without showing any proof), and stealing all client's money.
Anyway, if he is (as he says), neutral, he should change his opinion regarding this particularly matter. I repeat. A bookmaker is taking EVERY FUND of various clients, accussing them of doing fraud without showing any proof.
No one without any conection with bookmakers could defend this. It's obvious that common sense says you that this is wrong, and the only reason to support this is because he has some interests on it. I don't see any other reason.