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March 04, 2025, 05:21:24 AM
Last edit: March 04, 2025, 05:39:43 AM by cryptoWODL
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Trump can't really dictate the market however what is happening here is that he wield great influence as the president of US, so what whatever he says right now will impact crypto currency in either positive or negative way depending on his speech.when he made mention of making some crypto currency part of US reserves, the price of bitcoin skyrocket and also that of etherium.Though even without his influence bitcoin would have still come up to the recent price and above because bitcoin has proven to be a potential coin over the years without any single man dictating it's price.
I think that Donald Trump may have the ability to change the market because we have seen for a long time that whenever he has any positive news, the price of Bitcoin increases in the market and the price of Bitcoin fell due to his negative news. In fact when he won the election we've seen this ever since. When he announced the reserve a few days ago, Bitcoin started to skyrocket, then we thought that Bitcoin might touch the ATH. But he announced tariffs again and Bitcoin started to decline again.




He can definitely influence the market. See here,

Bitcoin’s price has surged since Trump’s election
Bitcoin jumps after Trump strategic reserve announcement
Stock market slides after Trump green lights 25% Mexico, Canada tariffs to start Tuesday
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March 04, 2025, 05:36:30 AM
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I don’t know why people are making this looks like this is the first of this kid of manipulation

Cryptocurrency is a market rife with manipulation and it has become an integral part of this market. You are right, I don't see many people complaining when bitcoin is manipulated by other whales, but why do people start complaining when Trump replaces other whales? Whether he is a president, businessman or billionaire, he is still human and has greed like us. Is it any wonder he also wants to make extra money for himself?

Moreover, most of us were the ones who supported and voted for him in the election. It can be said that we voted him to be a whale and manipulate the market. Why do we start complaining when it is our choice? It seems like not many people are making profit and that is why people are not happy with what he is doing.

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March 04, 2025, 05:41:36 AM
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Trump can't really dictate the market however what is happening here is that he wield great influence as the president of US, so what whatever he says right now will impact crypto currency in either positive or negative way depending on his speech.when he made mention of making some crypto currency part of US reserves, the price of bitcoin skyrocket and also that of etherium.Though even without his influence bitcoin would have still come up to the recent price and above because bitcoin has proven to be a potential coin over the years without any single man dictating it's price.
I think that Donald Trump may have the ability to change the market because we have seen for a long time that whenever he has any positive news, the price of Bitcoin increases in the market and the price of Bitcoin fell due to his negative news. In fact when he won the election we've seen this ever since. When he announced the reserve a few days ago, Bitcoin started to skyrocket, then we thought that Bitcoin might touch the ATH again. But he announced tariffs again and Bitcoin started to decline again.




He can definitely influence the market. See here,

Bitcoin’s price has surged since Trump’s election
Bitcoin jumps after Trump strategic reserve announcement
Stock market slides after Trump green lights 25% Mexico, Canada tariffs to start Tuesday

Trump's tariff is already taking effect start from today. He obviously manipulating the crypto market with all of his non-sense decisions. I don't like this. He is just slowly bringing US to the recessions.

He rugged his fan with his crap token, and now whole crypto. I don't even know why there are still people like him. I know his vision is MAGA, but what he did is making US to be far away from his vision.

I also heard that he is planning to leave from NATO.




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March 04, 2025, 05:46:38 AM
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Trump's tariff is already taking effect start from today. He obviously manipulating the crypto market with all of his non-sense decisions. I don't like this. He is just slowly bringing US to the recessions.

He rugged his fan with his crap token, and now whole crypto. I don't even know why there are still people like him. I know his vision is MAGA, but what he did is making US to be far away from his vision.
Soon his tariff card will no longer have big impacts on the market and I believe he knows it too. If you can hold your investment position, don't trade, don't use leverages for trading, when Trump effects gone, your portfolio will recover and Bitcoin bull market will continue to help your portfolio growing.

Don't mind too much about Trump, he has only four years in the White House and his effects on the market can become smaller in coming months, fortunately you won't have to wait till next four years.

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I also heard that he is planning to leave from NATO.
He won't because NATO help his nation to sell weapons and get money. With him, money is most important and his hobby is getting as most money as possible for him, his companies and his nation.

Trump simply plays cards flexibly to maximize what he can get through deals.











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March 04, 2025, 05:53:16 AM
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What do you guys think? Is my observation valid, or am I just overthinking it?
Honestly I entertained this idea too. It is a valid observation, in my opinion. There is nothing wrong with being wary sometimes of people and their intentions but I do not think that Trump is only manipulating bitcoin.

If this was his intention, he should have been making profit already with bitcoin by now. He should know that bitcoin is volatile and the current price could be the best as he can get it. Right now, there is no reason for them to keep bitcoin afloat. They have not officially added bitcoin to their reserve as far as I know and they could easily sell the ones they are holding as they have already been given the approval should they wish to do so.

In short, Trump has no reason to manipulate the market for as long as he has been doing. He can't push bitcoin to $200k on mere promises alone. He has to add bitcoin to the us reserve and make crypto friendly laws in the country to really solidify bitcoin and other cryptocurrencies more.

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March 04, 2025, 06:11:59 AM
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Moreover, most of us were the ones who supported and voted for him in the election. It can be said that we voted him to be a whale and manipulate the market. Why do we start complaining when it is our choice? It seems like not many people are making profit and that is why people are not happy with what he is doing.

No, he has the same desires as us. A lot of money and a happy life. LOL. But we are different from him, he is a president who has great power while we are only a small anchovy. With the current conditions, he has the power to manipulate the market. I just think, I feel happy if the manipulation is beneficial and disappointed if it hurts LOL.

From the very beginning of the presidential campaign, we should understand. He will be a huge force to dictate where Bitcoin will go. This is because the market has believed in these conditions. We have already seen the effect, when he announced a strategic reserve in 5 coins, the coin immediately moved up. Let's enjoy it, the best thing is that we don't go against the direction of the market because it is detrimental.
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No, he has the same desires as us. A lot of money and a happy life. LOL. But we are different from him, he is a president who has great power while we are only a small anchovy. With the current conditions, he has the power to manipulate the market. I just think, I feel happy if the manipulation is beneficial and disappointed if it hurts LOL.

From the very beginning of the presidential campaign, we should understand. He will be a huge force to dictate where Bitcoin will go. This is because the market has believed in these conditions. We have already seen the effect, when he announced a strategic reserve in 5 coins, the coin immediately moved up. Let's enjoy it, the best thing is that we don't go against the direction of the market because it is detrimental.

We experience a big sale again.
I did think we would get there after that up movement to 90k, but not so soon.. Roll Eyes

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Soon his tariff card will no longer have big impacts on the market and I believe he knows it too. If you can hold your investment position, don't trade, don't use leverages for trading, when Trump effects gone, your portfolio will recover and Bitcoin bull market will continue to help your portfolio growing.

Don't mind too much about Trump, he has only four years in the White House and his effects on the market can become smaller in coming months, fortunately you won't have to wait till next four years.


Yes, our duty is to focus on our investment and have a proper plan to preserve our investment, we should not blame others when we do not make profit.
Events, macroeconomic instability, geopolitical instability... have been going on for hundreds of years and these are bigger games that are beyond our control. So we should have plans to deal with them instead of complaining because complaining does not solve the problem.


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I also heard that he is planning to leave from NATO.
He won't because NATO help his nation to sell weapons and get money. With him, money is most important and his hobby is getting as most money as possible for him, his companies and his nation.

Trump simply plays cards flexibly to maximize what he can get through deals.

His goal is to balance trade between the United States and its allies and rivals, and to make America great again, not to separate the United States from the rest of the world. Leaving NATO will not benefit the United States and will only weaken the United States, so he will never do that.

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He’s causing major panic & market uncertainty. I don’t know what’s going to happen but it does not look good at the moment. Pretty much everything is getting obliterated with mass sell offs, although Gold is holding up quite well. I don’t know what the end result is but I am not feeling good about Bitcoin now. Hopefully there isn’t too much further selling but Trump is trying his best to dump everything.
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If this trend continues, it seems like the market is reacting directly to whatever Trump says which could mean his influence is stronger than we thought when it comes to crypto.

What do you guys think? Is my observation valid, or am I just overthinking it?
I do not believe in one person. By one person, I do not believe that one that one person has the power to cause an upward shift or downward shift in the price of bitcoin. Bitcoin is above the control of one person. There are numerous factors, macro and micro economics at play. Don't ask me to explain as I don't know how, but I just know there is. Trump's comment and bitcoin's upwards price movement is just a coincedence. Finally, if one person has the power to cause an upward shift or downward shift in the price of bitcoin, then bitcoin is FUCKED. What happens when he is having a bad day and makes a comment about bitcoin. You get it now.
Trump is not just an ordinary man, is statement can affect the global market. The way some activities do affect the price of the crypto market sometimes that is how Trump statement regarding crypto can affect the market.  It is not as if Trump can control the market,  but I think he has the influence to make the market move in a certain way just for a short time. For example if a country like China announce a reserve in bitcoin or something good that has to do with bitcoin and the country it will affect the movement of the market maybe for a short time, it doesn't mean the country's president is controlling bitcoin.
Their are some news that can make the market go dip and their are some that can also make the price of bitcoin to increase too.

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March 04, 2025, 11:13:56 AM
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If this trend continues, it seems like the market is reacting directly to whatever Trump says which could mean his influence is stronger than we thought when it comes to crypto.

What do you guys think? Is my observation valid, or am I just overthinking it?  
He is using his power to manipulate but I think it will only have a short term impact. No doubt his influence has made some policies towards the correction process that is happening but I don't see this as one of the reasons. Take a simpler example and if he was able to manipulate the market completely then the coins he launched would not have bothered to correct so deeply even though there were times when they did go up again which was influenced by several reasons.

I am even starting to doubt what he says about the crypto journey and if you want to be more simple maybe just forget it. Same thing with some politicians who have ever existed and almost most of their statements are not credible or maybe I am exaggerating.

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March 04, 2025, 11:24:54 AM
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He’s causing major panic & market uncertainty. I don’t know what’s going to happen but it does not look good at the moment. Pretty much everything is getting obliterated with mass sell offs, although Gold is holding up quite well. I don’t know what the end result is but I am not feeling good about Bitcoin now. Hopefully there isn’t too much further selling but Trump is trying his best to dump everything.
It's uncertain time and you are right too. Realizing it is good but what to next is more important.

If you realize risk is coming but don't do anything, it is not helpful for you and your portfolio too. This next practical step is more important for traders, like they are uncertain but they have open positions that are temporarily in losses and they don't want to close their positions with losses. This practice contains high risk and usually market will have wash out to clean up all gambling positions.

By hesitating and avoid small loss, they will get bigger loss with market crash and liquidations.

In uncertain time, it's time to close your position and keep watching if you have positions with leverages or futures.

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If this trend continues, it seems like the market is reacting directly to whatever Trump says which could mean his influence is stronger than we thought when it comes to crypto.
What do you guys think? Is my observation valid, or am I just overthinking it?


There is no doubt that he has become a factor that affects the cryptocurrency market (among everything else), because it is no coincidence that he announced that the US strategic reserves will contain some shitcoins, this causes a pump, and after 24 hours a big dump follows because those who had insider information dumped on the naive and collected a quick buck.

His little Martian did exactly that a couple of years ago on social media and only withdrew when he realized that the SEC could penalize him again, now there is practically no one to regulate such things - the entire US is in the hands of dangerous clowns who act as if the US has turned into a communist creation overnight and a war has been started with internal and external enemies.

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March 04, 2025, 11:55:17 AM
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Trump is not just an ordinary man, is statement can affect the global market. The way some activities do affect the price of the crypto market sometimes that is how Trump statement regarding crypto can affect the market.  It is not as if Trump can control the market,  but I think he has the influence to make the market move in a certain way just for a short time.
The way the market reacts to Trump shows how intertwined politics and crypto can be. It’s funny how quickly view can shift based on a single statement or announcement.  Bitcoin’s volatility indicates economic concerns most times, like inflation for example, so for traders to react strongly to news that signals potential economic changes actually make sense.
The influence that public figures now have on the crypto market is something worth paying attention to. Trump is not alone on the list of people with an influence on the market.
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I mean, just look at what happened, when he announced the tariff, Bitcoin dumped hard because people speculated that it would cause inflation, limiting investment capacity. We saw a major sell-off for days. Then, last night, Trump suddenly posted about crypto becoming part of the U.S. national reserve, and Bitcoin instantly bounced back like nothing happened.

If this trend continues, it seems like the market is reacting directly to whatever Trump says which could mean his influence is stronger than we thought when it comes to crypto.

What do you guys think? Is my observation valid, or am I just overthinking it?

It can be coincidence also. He is powerful, no doubt. But there are other factors involved as well. Like the whales can also do this price manipulation for their own benefits. I would give more power to whales combined because they control a major part of the supply.
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Cryptocurrency is a market rife with manipulation and it has become an integral part of this market. You are right, I don't see many people complaining when bitcoin is manipulated by other whales, but why do people start complaining when Trump replaces other whales? Whether he is a president, businessman or billionaire, he is still human and has greed like us. Is it any wonder he also wants to make extra money for himself?
should he be dragging the entire country if he just wanted to make a profit for himself?

he is the president of usa so any action should be on the best interest of the country and not just him that is one difference between trump and other whales trump has the entire country on his shoulders and even the entire world is looking at him
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Moreover, most of us were the ones who supported and voted for him in the election. It can be said that we voted him to be a whale and manipulate the market. Why do we start complaining when it is our choice? It seems like not many people are making profit and that is why people are not happy with what he is doing.
i think we should clarify what manipulating the market is because if he is just making empty promises with no intention to actually do it then that is manipulation but if the market is only reacting to his actions that he intend to do anyway regardless of current state of the market then i do not think that is manipulation
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March 04, 2025, 04:24:18 PM
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Apart from the fact that what tariffs US has for its imports has no relationship with or effect on bitcoin price, we can obviously say that as a "public figure" a president can impact the market not just by things they say but with the regulations, surveillance and the restrictions they impose on the Bitcoin world!

The only effect that these tariffs may have is in the long run as they will cause inflation inside USA which would then devalue the dollar and as a consequence everything would go up against the dollar including bitcoin.

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I will say that, trump is having a great influence on the market currently but that’s just the market for you and i  believe that the major determinant of each market is the buying and selling power and the only reason trump is gaining this much weight is because his country is very influential and everyone believes that, whatever affects his country automatically affects theirs and as such everyone is just trying to play safe regardless.

Facts can not be denied that truly trump has a great influence on the global cryptocurrency market.

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I don’t know why people are making this looks like this is the first of this kid of manipulation

Cryptocurrency is a market rife with manipulation and it has become an integral part of this market. You are right, I don't see many people complaining when bitcoin is manipulated by other whales, but why do people start complaining when Trump replaces other whales? Whether he is a president, businessman or billionaire, he is still human and has greed like us. Is it any wonder he also wants to make extra money for himself?

Moreover, most of us were the ones who supported and voted for him in the election. It can be said that we voted him to be a whale and manipulate the market. Why do we start complaining when it is our choice? It seems like not many people are making profit and that is why people are not happy with what he is doing.
We are in an era where people will support someone who raises bitcoin but on the other hand if he also manipulates the price he will be disliked again. For example now Trump when he just became president was highly anticipated for his tweet on X about Bitcoin a few weeks ago and immediately labeled Trump as only exploiting the Bitcoin community's voice but after his latest tweet Trump was again praised because he immediately stated the core and purpose of Bitcoin position in the US.

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Bitcoin itself should be going higher because of the tariff, not going down. This is why I hate investors who d onto understand the concept of bitcoin all together. If there is a tariff, then why would that make bitcoin investment a bad idea? Think about it, you are not trading anything from other nations, so tariff shouldn't really impact the price of bitcoin, but even if it did, then it would be just buy more bitcoins so you can trade outside of fiat world if you really want to.

That is very funny to see people misunderstanding what makes bitcoin worse or better, and this one doesn't make it worse so it shouldn't be dropping this hard. I am going to just go ahead and buy some more, I do not care what anyone else says.

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