Z_MBFM (OP)
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March 05, 2025, 06:24:57 AM Last edit: March 05, 2025, 07:22:07 AM by Z_MBFM |
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Profile - usekevinusekevin sending me pm again and again and asking me to delete my post from BETKIN Announcement thread. his/her behavior is subspecies. BETKEN Campaign week 1 was end 25 Feb today is 5 march but he not paid the users. i have post my opinion on BETKEN ANN and now he asking me to delete my post again and again. https://t.me/usekevinbounty https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/10fJzEKZAmQVGJBKvTNVkSFscQUnWQUCF1VJAovShjTc
Pm Subject: WarningHello, Why you are spamming in announcement thread about the campaign payment.Kindly remove the post in announcement thread Don't make the team to not pay for the next three campaign Review campaign is upcoming for BETKIN Don't spam in my project
What do you mean ? where is spam ? and what do you mean by warning subject? This is a open forum so everyone has the right to make any comments. I can't find any fault in my post. If you have any problem you can report it in the forum. I will answer your question there. Why should I delete my post? Lol  It take 9 months for me to get this project You fuck simply spamming because of few dollars.? The team had 3 upcoming campaigns,this spam message will affect their further payment to us. Also I had started to pay,so remove the post in announcements thread.
Do you pay me the money for the next three campaign..
Stop this shit
Continue your work honestly without request someone to remove post. i can't remove my post because i am not telling anything wrong. don't pm me about this please
It’s my project,so you should not speak the payment Only you can speak about the project their You don’t know this basic things I already started to pay. So don’t spam my project thread and anger me
What the fuck you are doing Delete the post in announcement thread Client asking about it Delete the post now This is my 9 month work to get this project Don’t spoil my job delete the post now
usekevin also applied for $400 loan yesterday. i think he is trying to take loan and paid the signature payment by USDT (TRC-20) i seen he asking TRON wallet to the signature participate. and it is cleard that he has spend escrow money for his personal experiences and now he is unable to pay the users. he has the same record for his first signature campaign BETUNLIM. Loan Amount: 400USDT (TRC20) Loan Purpose: Personal Loan Repay Amount: 440$USDT Loan Repay Date: One month (May be earlier) Type of Collateral: None USDT TRC20 Wallet Address: TBMa9HpndVy5Y73jr6KXzAGUXSTNYeW9qL
check his trust feedback. according to nutildah feedback this account is hacked or boughted account.  Note - Accounting to his all activities, i think he is a scammer and preparing to scam a big fund as like past scam history on this forums from campaign management and another way.
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DubemIfedigbo001
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March 05, 2025, 06:40:16 AM |
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Funny how he's asking for a loan upon being a campaign manager. Maybe he actually spent project funds or he's part of the project and it's having financial issues already. I've not known him to be a very straightforward guy anyways. I pity more those that left better campaigns and joined his 1 week parody of a campaign because he enticed them with a bigger pay than what they earn currently.
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Z_MBFM (OP)
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March 05, 2025, 06:44:18 AM Last edit: March 05, 2025, 07:25:02 AM by Z_MBFM |
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Accepted participate history 1. user troytech25 not found, i found a name Troytech with BETKEN signature wearing. but this account is Alt account. check trust feedback and reference2. Glen Hoddleis Bought/stolen account check trust feedback and reference3. Floxynice is Alts account and like Bought/ stolen account check trust feedback and reference4. Rana590 Inactive since December 14, 2023 and suddenly woke up February 18, 2025 and applied for BETKEN Campaign and accepted and get paid 5. bSpend is Bought/stolen account check trust feedback and referenceEligible 10 users for payment on spreadsheet total amount $373 from here 5 account seems his own controlled/ boughted/ framed account so already $174 in his pocket from total payment of $373 but still not able to paid $199 although campaign payment is escrowed
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March 05, 2025, 06:54:00 AM |
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You are not alone. I received a private message from another local forum member saying he got threats from Usekevin. Usekevin asked him to remove his posts from the Betkin announcement thread. Usekevin threatened him by saying that he would tag that user's account with the help of Shasan, another Betkin campaign participant. I don't think Shasan know anything about it. According to that user, he participated in another campaign that Kevin handled back in December, and he got paid in TRX, but the payment was delayed. All other signature campaign participants received their payments via Binance pay ID, which is why he never posted the transaction tx. Here is the link to that thread; https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5521187.0At least three users from my local community confirmed that they received private messages from Usekevin asking to remove their posts from the Betkin announcement thread. Red flags: - Likely to be a sold account.
- The reputation of this account is not that great.
- Delayed payment in the first campaign in different ways; the 2nd campaign participants did not receive their payment yet.
- Asking for loans (likely he spends the campaign funds and now needs a loan to cover the payment)
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Odohu
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March 05, 2025, 07:28:46 AM |
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The signature thread in question clearly stated that fund was escrowed so I wonder why payment have not been made till date. Could it be that the campaign manager have used the funds for personal needs and now trying to salvage the situation through loans and other means? It's just a shame that a new casino will started off this badly considering the level of competition in the industry. If the casino care about their business, they have to intervene as soon as possible since they cannot feign ignorance of what is going on.
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Despairo
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March 05, 2025, 08:13:27 AM Last edit: March 05, 2025, 08:52:07 AM by Despairo |
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Although the private messages are used to proves if he ask you to delete the posts, but technically revealing someone else PMs without the sender's consent is ethically wrong. I read that some of the participants confirming if they already received the rewards, but I can't track it, the participants should confirm here. 4. Rana590 Inactive since December 14, 2023 and suddenly woke up February 18, 2025 and applied for BETKEN Campaign and accepted and get paid I ignore the other users because it can leads to drama since the proof aren't strong. But, this one is different, it's completely clear he accept a participant who not post for a year. The signature thread in question clearly stated that fund was escrowed so I wonder why payment have not been made till date.
This is a good point, why I feel he's lying if the funds was escrowed, I think it's his strategy to make people join his campaign, along to offer the most highest payment ($6.5 per post). I would like to see @usekevin to come here and sign the wallet which you use for escrow.
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Although the personal messages are used to proves if he ask you to delete the posts, but technically revealing someone else PMs without the sender's consent is ethically wrong.
Under what criteria? Not only is it perfectly ethical, but in this case it is a moral obligation, so I must have a sense of ethics completely opposite to yours. It's one thing if you and I previously agree to talk about something by PM and I break it, that would be unethical. But if you send a PM to me you are the one who wants to talk about it privately, I have not previously agreed to it. In this case of a possible scam is more than justified.
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March 05, 2025, 08:34:16 AM |
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usekevin also applied for $400 loan yesterday. i think he is trying to take loan and paid the signature payment by USDT (TRC-20) i seen he asking TRON wallet to the signature participate. and it is cleard that he has spend escrow money for his personal experiences and now he is unable to pay the users. he has the same record for his first signature campaign BETUNLIM.
You are correct, if Usekevin is applying for a loan now, it means he has spent the escrow fund. He accepted Shasan in that campaign as a reputable participant, and from his trust history, he has been borrowing from Shasan, it is good that Shasan tell us if Usekevin has paid him personally. 3. Floxynice is Alts account and like Bought/ stolen account check trust feedback and referenceThis is wrong, Floxynice is a new member in the forum. This is actually her first campaign and she has been disturbing me about Usekevin inability to pay after 6days, but I told her to remain calm that someone else will escalate the matter soonest.
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March 05, 2025, 08:38:05 AM Merited by Ultegra134 (1) |
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Usekevin has now asked participants of the campaign to send him trx addresses in pay in USDT claiming payments will be sent soon.
I guess that would solve the issue of non payment but nevertheless the situation was not handled very professionally. At least provided the above messages are true, it's understandable from participants to want to get paid. The communication from the Manager's side could have been clearer. Many people left their signature campaign that they were members of for extended periods of time trusting this new manager only to see the campaign paused and no payment from the first week.
So it's an issue that originates both from the platform delivering the payments as well as the manager. They went and started a campaign not knowing what to expect and even after week one didn't have the funds readily available. Then the manager asked users making pretty reasonable questions to delete their responses... Which he could have addressed by a simple comment that payments are coming instead. In no case should be had asked users to delete truthful posts without solving their issue.
Anyway. We wait and see, if the payments are done it's a good sign. But also overall more professionalism is needed to trust a service as well as a campaign manager.
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March 05, 2025, 08:48:12 AM |
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Ok, someone I won't reveal the details of contacted me in private and pointed me to some details that are quite important. See this screenshot from Kevin's Telegram:  So not only did he change the payment terms only from his side breaking the initial agreement, he's now claiming that he won't pay everyone because they were "late" to send addresses or because they questioned him publicly... Clearly this is unacceptable behavior and deserving of a scam accusation. Everyone should be paid based on initial agreement at least for the first week. If Betkin want to clear their name they need s new manager too.
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March 05, 2025, 08:59:55 AM |
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Not to add fuel here, but it's really very suspicious on the members that he accepted here, but for sure by now those who applied with a good posting history and was rejected is happy that they are not accepted.
Lots of red flag already, from the campaign manager himself and the members that he accepted and I will say that it might not just me, but some might really smell that something is not right in this project. Supposedly escrowed but the payments didn't go.
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Usekelvin has requested participant to send Trx address for their payment to be made. I think that is what matters here, however he chooses to pay the participant shouldn't be cared about as long as he makes the payment to the respected participant in the end. The payment was delayed which was not meant to be so but already few persons from the telegram group has received their payment hoping that all will be paid today in full.
I dont think he is the only manager that has traded or gambled with participant funds as long as they all meet the ends need of everyone. However Usekelvin should learn to manage his campaign properly to avoid suspicion.
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March 05, 2025, 09:40:42 AM |
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Usekelvin has requested participant to send Trx address for their payment to be made. I think that is what matters here, however he chooses to pay the participant shouldn't be cared about as long as he makes the payment to the respected participant in the end.
Your statement is misleading. Every campaign manager states how and when he will pay for the campaign in their rules and it is based on those rules that participants decides to join the campaign. So, every manager is obliged to work within his set rules. I dont think he is the only manager that has traded or gambled with participant funds as long as they all meet the ends need of everyone.
Can you mention the managers that gambled or traded with participants money? Also, are you confirming that Usekevin has gambled or traded with signature campaign funds?
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What's even funnier is that although the manager has seen this post (he has merited user Pi$$), but hasn't replied in the topic to explain himself. Even though there should be no excuses for using funds in escrow, the excuse of Bitcoin's drop in price also doesn't cut it, he should have at least apologized and explain what happened. He's putting both the casino, which is supposedly his customer, and his credibility at stake.
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Check what? I believe he is aware of that thread and saw what hugeblack posted. You need to use your brain to understand what PM you can share and what you cannot share. This thread is about a manager who looks super scammy. He has run two signature campaigns and both campaigns ended up with a delayed payment. He also changed the payment method of the campaign. He is sending private messages to people to remove their negative comment about his service. He used the escrow fund and is now looking for a loan to cover the signature payment. What else do you need to expose their private message in public? What's even funnier is that although the manager has seen this post (he has merited user Pi$$), but hasn't replied in the topic to explain himself.
This should give you a hint that he has nothing to say because everything seems true and he cannot defend anything.
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March 05, 2025, 10:37:50 AM |
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It seems to me that you are not aware of the implicit reasoning you have made, erroneous in my opinion. That particular case of unveiling MP assuming it were correct, which we could discuss, is far from sufficient to infer something general, such as an ethical norm. I stand by what I said before: It's one thing if you and I previously agree to talk about something by PM and I break it, that would be unethical. But if you send a PM to me you are the one who wants to talk about it privately, I have not previously agreed to it. In this case of a possible scam is more than justified.
Although it is normal that if you reveal a PM the person who sent it gets angry, but from there to being unethical? I believe he is aware of that thread and saw what hugeblack posted. You need to use your brain to understand what PM you can share and what you cannot share. This thread is about a manager who looks super scammy. He has run two signature campaigns and both campaigns ended up with a delayed payment. He also changed the payment method of the campaign.
Exactly. And from what has been shared here that manager deserves some red paint.
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March 05, 2025, 10:40:19 AM |
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--snip-- At least three users from my local community confirmed that they received private messages from Usekevin asking to remove their posts from the Betkin announcement thread. --snip--
IMO it would be great if those users are willing to share what kind of PM they received on this thread.
What's even funnier is that although the manager has seen this post (he has merited user Pi$$), but hasn't replied in the topic to explain himself. Even though there should be no excuses for using funds in escrow, the excuse of Bitcoin's drop in price also doesn't cut it, he should have at least apologized and explain what happened. He's putting both the casino, which is supposedly his customer, and his credibility at stake.
Not only that, he also left neutral to OP. Z_MBFM 2025-03-05 Reference Spam my client announcement thread without knowing the trust.I had warned him not to spam and he never respond and create a fake reputation thread .He is trying to get my project from my hand and create a drama of caring others.
This shows how much we could trust usekevin.
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March 05, 2025, 10:55:21 AM |
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This should give you a hint that he has nothing to say because everything seems true and he cannot defend anything.
Oh right, I just noticed that Pi$$ is or was, a user of the Betkin campaign, which explains why he's supporting him and why he has given him a merit. I wouldn't be surprised if it's one of his alts as well, but I can't say anything for sure without evidence. It can be casual bootlicking as well.
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Because someone said it is wrong, does not make it wrong. People have different opinions, there are no truly universal rule about it. If a murderer tell me in PM that I killed your ex, you want me to keep it private and not help the police to investigate? Sharing a private message depends on its merit. If it benefits an accusation then there are no problem with it.
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