This AI case makes me think

[LoyceV]

Rather than enforcing such rules, more energy should be spent educating people how to use it properly.

That's not Bitcointalk's task. Even if "we" would manage to teach every user to properly use and quote chatbot output, there'd be many others who'd also jump at the opportunity to earn money by posting output from a free language model.

The level of effort which a person or team puts into a project is directly correlated with its likelihood of success.

That's the problem: chatbots reduce the amount of effort to virtually nothing, which means the number of people that can do it goes up exponentially. We'll end up with the Dead Internet theory:

organic human activity on the web has been displaced by bots

[Free Market Capitalist]

But when someone is trying to copy and paste the an entire article without giving it a personal touch then it is bad.

I agree but sometimes a text that is originated from human and just enhanced using AI can give a 100% AI generated result on detectors.

Why not? Although there might be some false positives or negatives, we use at least three detectors in the main AI Report Thread to make that conclusion.

Wrong.

At least 2 of the 7 AI content detectors mentioned below must give a result of the post having a strong likelihood of containing AI-written material...

Here's another example similar to OP's. Another casino is opting to have AI write their thread and reply to users who replied or asked questions. Personally, if you don't even bother writing the thread and the posts yourself, why should I bother with your shady casino?

This is interesting because this guy is doing the same:

Hey seoincorporation,

I appreciate your perspective, and I understand that $10K might seem like a high price at first glance. However, there’s a lot more to our software than just a "server and frontend".

✅ End-to-End Turnkey Solution – Unlike setting everything up from scratch (which requires significant time, technical expertise, and negotiations with providers), our platform delivers a fully operational casino ready to launch instantly, not months.

✅ Seamless Integration – Yes, third-party game providers and payment processors are involved (as is the case with any professional casino platform), but integrating them efficiently with a scalable and secure backend is no small task. We handle all technical complexities so operators can focus on running their business instead of troubleshooting connections and API issues.

✅ No Licensing Hassles – Unlike most platforms, our software doesn’t require a gambling license to operate, allowing businesses to start immediately with crypto-fiat transactions.

✅ Full Source Code & Ownership – Unlike many solutions where you’re locked into a white label provider, we offer full source code access (with all the risks of being stoled). That means you own your platform entirely and are not dependent on us long-term.

Sure, if someone has the technical knowledge, legal expertise, and business acumen to build everything from the ground up, they could attempt to do so at a lower cost. But that requires months (or even years) of work, negotiations, and expensive trial-and-error processes.
Our solution eliminates all that hassle and provides a fully functional, battle-tested casino platform, allowing operators to start generating revenue immediately.

For those who truly understand the cost of time, expertise, and reliability, $10K is an investment, not an expense.

If anyone has specific questions about the platform’s capabilities, I’d be happy to clarify.
We also have a live demo available for those who want to see it in action before making a decision. 🚀

Looking forward to constructive discussions!"

This is a reply and is detected as 100% AI by copyleaks and gptzero. I completely agree with you, if you don't bother to put something of your own don't expect me to bother with your casino.

That being said, there is a difference between using AI to assist versus using AI to do everything. 

I agree.

That's the problem: chatbots reduce the amount of effort to virtually nothing, which means the number of people that can do it goes up exponentially.

It also has advantages. As is often the case with technological advances, they democratize access to what technology provides.

[Vod]

Then its up to the customer whether or not they want to use a product made by extremely lazy people.

Why would the end customer care about laziness?  if I order food and the driver arrives in a car instead of a bicycle, should I not tip him?   And what about that bicycle?   Not extremely lazy, but still not walking...

It comes down to what they are using the tool for.   If it's just to make money on a forum post, then that is lazy, yes.   But what if my memory is bad so I keep track of my clients on a spreadsheet?  Are my services less valuable than a campaign manager that does everything by memory?

I don't have the right brain skills to imagine nice designs - I am very analytical.    My using a tool to generate a color scheme for a sci fi forum is no different than you using a tool to modify an image; can't you stop being lazy and just take the picture you want?

Rather than enforcing such rules, more energy should be spent educating people how to use it properly.

That's not Bitcointalk's task.

OK - Is not using AI to post any different than any other suggestion you constantly give to newbies who don't follow the rules?   It's not our job to educate people on the scams others use here, but we do.  :/

[slotsware]

Hey everyone,

As you can see im slotsware, the creator of the casino software advertised in my thread here: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5533085.0.
I’ve noticed this thread suggesting that my use of AI in forum posts somehow implies my software itself was AI-generated.

Let’s clear this up.

Yes, I use AI tools to assist with drafting posts and communication.

It helps me save time and polish my wording, especially since English isn’t my first language and I’m focused on running a business, not writing novels.
But let’s be real: using AI for advertising or forum posts doesn’t mean my casino software was “made by AI.”
That’s a leap in logic that doesn’t even deserve a response, but I’ll give one anyway for clarity.

My software Slotsware.casino, detailed here: https://slotsware.casino/ was built from the ground up by me and my team.
Real people, real code, real effort. No ChatGPT or any other AI wrote a single line of it.
We’ve poured months into designing a reliable, secure, and user-friendly casino platform, and the results speak for themselves.
If you’ve got doubts, check the site, test the demo, or ask me directly, i’ll happily walk you through what we’ve built.

https://slotsware.casino/demo

Using AI for marketing is just smart business in 2025. It’s no different from using a spellchecker or a graphic design tool.
The complainer here seems more interested in stirring drama than understanding the facts.
I’m not here to scam anyone. Transparency is a core value for me and my business, and I’m fully available to address any questions or concerns.

I posted in this forum to offer a solid product. If you’ve got legit questions or critiques about the software itself, I’m all ears...bring it on.
Otherwise, let’s keep the focus on what matters: the work, not the words.

Cheers,

[Vod]

My software Slotsware.casino, detailed here: https://slotsware.casino/ was built from the ground up by me and my team.

You really used no third party APIs, IDEs, frameworks or snippets?   Hopefully you didn't write your wallet from scratch!  

I haven't looked at your site (I don't gamble) but from what you wrote, your site is not AI generated.

The complainer here seems more interested in stirring drama than understanding the facts.

1) The OP does not post to stir drama, but if members didn't comment on things they noticed, all this forum would be is spam.  He brought up a valid topic - AI - and the conversation has evolved past your site.  Don't view continued discussion as a direct attack.

2) You both are stating facts - you just are interpreting them differently.   Technology is moving so fast now that historical analysis/reaction cycles mean nothing.

[DaNNy001]

I'm not really much of a big fan of using AI detectors to try to spot AI generated text the best you could do is actually just speculate if the text is AI generated or not because sometimes these AI generators may not give the right results. Nevertheless AI posts seem less interesting to read by people not because they are low quality but because the user posting it just copy pasted it.
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It's good to see that some members of the community are opened to the fact that the AI detectors can give out false results because I have seen some few cases when these detectors tend to give out false results but the folks actually using them here are of the opinion that it can't which is sad because it's just as saying human can't actually write up to a standard where everything will be literally correct or maybe am getting the whole thing wrong because that's the way I see it.

[Mia Chloe]

It's good to see that some members of the community are opened to the fact that the AI detectors can give out false results because I have seen some few cases when these detectors tend to give out false results but the folks actually using them here are of the opinion that it can't which is sad because it's just as saying human can't actually write up to a standard where everything will be literally correct or maybe am getting the whole thing wrong because that's the way I see it.

Taking it as a fact that AI detectors are 100% effective and accurate is just as crazy as saying everything an AI says is 100% valid information. When I look at people who rely on AI detectors I see an extension of someone who also relies on an AI.
The fact is these AI detectors follow a regular pattern with the aim to burst an AI generated text and it's not 100% accurate. I see it more like a speculation not a factual feedback.

[nutildah]

Then its up to the customer whether or not they want to use a product made by extremely lazy people.

Why would the end customer care about laziness?  

For the same reason you wouldn't invest in an ICO with a plagiarized white paper.

It comes down to what they are using the tool for.   If it's just to make money on a forum post, then that is lazy, yes.  

OK. We are in complete agreement here, and as I've said before I really don't care what people use it for in other contexts. Especially if its for the sake of creativity or humor.

Using AI for marketing is just smart business in 2025.

I disagree. Whenever I see obviously AI-generated text, my eyes just kind of glaze over it and I couldn't care less about what is being said. If the author didn't take the time to write their own words, why should I take the time to read them? (not that I didn't notice your post here is also AI-generated)

[Vod]

Then its up to the customer whether or not they want to use a product made by extremely lazy people.

Why would the end customer care about laziness?  

For the same reason you wouldn't invest in an ICO with a plagiarized white paper.

An investor is not the end customer, though.   An investor may see AI as a red flag, but if someone invests and a product comes to market, the customer really will not care how it was built.  People use this forum and they don't care about all the fraud (laziness) that was involved in making it the way it is. 

[Free Market Capitalist]

The complainer here seems more interested in stirring drama than understanding the facts.

Are you stupid, or what’s wrong with you? "Stirring drama"? You are talking to the guy who has most publicly defended the (proper) use of AI on this forum.

The issue here is that if you're going to use AI even to answer the questions we ask you, you're a lazy fuck. Don't expect me to be interested in your crappy casino.

You've earned a tag from me.

[cande86]

The AI-generated content needs to be repackaged into an infographic. Then people will stop complaining about the quality.

I don't understand what you mean with an infographic, i can say that it is a tool that can find its utility, we still say that it is too young to understand how to use it and consequently many people have to complain in its daily use.
I am convinced that in the future we will be able to use it better. For sure we need to understand the tool before.

[Alone055]

I’ve noticed this thread suggesting that my use of AI in forum posts somehow implies my software itself was AI-generated.

No one said that, but we do believe that if you are using AI to even answer the questions people ask about your business, then you are lazy, for sure, and someone can imply that a lazy person might use AI even when they are building a website or a platform.

Yes, I use AI tools to assist with drafting posts and communication.

It helps me save time and polish my wording, especially since English isn’t my first language and I’m focused on running a business, not writing novels.

If you are focused on running a business, you should put in some effort. You can't have an AI text generator open in one tab and the forum in another. Take the questions from your thread, feed them to the AI and copy and paste the answers in the forum. That's not how you run a business. It's your business, so you should know everything about it. Why do you need an AI to generate everything for you? Assistance with words and polishing the grammar can be done using tools such as Grammarly, I use it too, and English is not my first language as well, but that isn't an excuse for me to use AI to make posts in the forum even if I'm running a business.

And of course, you can't say that you can't speak or write English at all because you can't be running a global business without that.

or ask me directly, i’ll happily walk you through what we’ve built.

With the help of AI? 

Using AI for marketing is just smart business in 2025. It’s no different from using a spellchecker or a graphic design tool.

Using AI for marketing material is a different thing than using AI as a customer service representative, and that is exactly what you are doing because I've checked your posts, and almost all of them are 100% AI-generated. We often see bots or even AI bots responding to us in Live Chat in any platform, but when the bot can't understand or solve our problem, it connects us with a human operator. Imagine, the bot connects you to a human operator but the human operator itself is using an AI to assist you. What's the point then?

[Sandra_hakeem]

Are you stupid?

Not a question PP; that'd rather sit well as an affirmation!

The issue here is that if you're going to use AI even to answer the questions we ask you, you're a lazy fuck. Don't expect me to be interested in your crappy casino.

See what I kept stressing out? The people!!!
Hehe... and you know what? We still got a bunch of birdbrains that have gone far in creating (this time, way more dangerous fugazis) that will eventually be used to pull millions of scams in the future.... Uhm, I'm afraid our generation may not witness its peak, but it's something to be worried about.

So yeah, AI is the best thing to happen in our lifetime, but worry more about "techno-maleficence"

[Macabury]

An investor is not the end customer, though.   An investor may see AI as a red flag, but if someone invests and a product comes to market, the customer really will not care how it was built.  People use this forum and they don't care about all the fraud (laziness) that was involved in making it the way it is. 

The customer is more interested in the end product and not the source. If anyone really cares about the source it's the investor because they know their funds is at risk. It's disgusting how people lazily use AI just to flood the forum. Over time if this persists it will be harder to know the intention of people using the forum because their contents are prompts and not hard work,
 Obviously scamming will increase.

[Ultegra134]

Taking it as a fact that AI detectors are 100% effective and accurate is just as crazy as saying everything an AI says is 100% valid information. When I look at people who rely on AI detectors I see an extension of someone who also relies on an AI.
The fact is these AI detectors follow a regular pattern with the aim to burst an AI generated text and it's not 100% accurate. I see it more like a speculation not a factual feedback.

I disagree, more often than not, these detectors have successfully located numerous spammers, I don't recall ever seeing a case in the AI Report Thread where someone would successfully defend themselves and prove that they weren't using one. The majority of cases are from newbies spamming copy pasted gibberish that can be distinguished that it's AI just by reading it. A few older members who were caught with AI either quit without any explanation or nothing that could remotely backup that they weren't using one.

This is the reason why we're using multiple detectors over a variety of posts, we're not going to accuse someone just by one post.

[Pmalek]

I am still baffled that admins decided to do nothing about many AI generated posts and that they don't consider it as plagiarism. Plagiarism is exactly what it is. They didn't write the content - someone/something else did. They didn't mention the source of the content, which means they are pretending they are the original creators. That's what plagiarism is. 

Doing nothing is an invitation to people to come to the forum and post in threads with AI-generated content. The worst thing that can happen to you is that you get some negative or neutral feedback on your profile.

[Free Market Capitalist]

I am still baffled that admins decided to do nothing about many AI generated posts and that they don't consider it as plagiarism. Plagiarism is exactly what it is. They didn't write the content - someone/something else did. They didn't mention the source of the content, which means they are pretending they are the original creators. That's what plagiarism is. 

Well, it's not as simple as that.

Plagiarism

the process or practice of using another person's ideas or work and pretending that it is your own

Copying and pasting from an AI is not subject to copyright issues in many cases. In the case of the OP he is not simply copying and pasting something that the AI is making up, in order for the AI to produce that text he has had to give it a source of information from where the text has been generated. There is no plagiarism in the sense of the Cambridge dictionary and there is no copyright problem.

[memehunter]

in order for the AI to produce that text he has had to give it a source of information from where the text has been generated.

OK, I will admit it, sometimes you do make sense (sorry, I can't use everytime, and you would agree. You could argue that sometimes includes most of the times in a sense of set theory ).
Indeed, proper prompting is a skill but let's be honest we are specifically talking about shitty posters who just copy the OP or the last post and type, 'reply to it'.
I know AI is useful in many fields but whenever we are opposing the AI it is strictly for shit posting in this forum and IMO this is the category mistake you often makes or you do not but I think so (correct me if you want). 

[Free Market Capitalist]

Indeed, proper prompting is a skill but let's be honest we are specifically talking about shitty posters who just copy the OP or the last post and type, 'reply to it'.

This is not what we are talking about in this thread. This thread is about someone who has used AI to present their business, which is kind of like if I give a lecture on my PhD thesis and it is written for me by AI. No plagiarism, no copyright issue.

[memehunter]

This is not what we are talking about in this thread.This thread is about someone who has used AI to present their business

I do not think you need to explain to me, especially when I have posted my reply already in this thread. I was well aware of the context and subcontext (which prompted me to jump in).
See,

I am still baffled that admins decided to do nothing about many AI generated posts and that they don't consider it as plagiarism. Plagiarism is exactly what it is. They didn't write the content - someone/something else did. They didn't mention the source of the content, which means they are pretending they are the original creators. That's what plagiarism is. 

Doing nothing is an invitation to people to come to the forum and post in threads with AI-generated content. The worst thing that can happen to you is that you get some negative or neutral feedback on your profile.