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March 11, 2025, 04:26:32 AM
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It is truly unsettling that there are 7 threads of scam accusations about Stake on Page 1 of this section.

I created a casino.guru complaint, if all else fails I'll go through Curacao gaming commission.
From what I see, currently 23 cases open against them at casino.guru, I'll be the 24th.

They have active member around 65,000-70,000 people are online and active in the chats rooms, meanwhile the number you are mentioned:
7 is 0.14% from the range 65,000–70,000
24 is 0.48% from the range 65,000–70,000

Less than 0.5% of the people who created a ticket, issue or open a case. I think these are still safe, cause we haven't even reached 1%. Just tried to wait and follow the process bro, sometimes panic can make you exhausted. You can take a looks on Casino Guru case, since you opened a thread on there... they are active to response at the time their turn response after getting contact by CG.

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March 11, 2025, 05:06:41 AM
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What’s concerning is that the amount of complaints against Stake has been increasing at a high rate. Not only that but it’s the long delays that have always occurred.
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March 11, 2025, 05:38:19 AM
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It is truly unsettling that there are 7 threads of scam accusations about Stake on Page 1 of this section.

I created a casino.guru complaint, if all else fails I'll go through Curacao gaming commission.
From what I see, currently 23 cases open against them at casino.guru, I'll be the 24th.

They have active member around 65,000-70,000 people are online and active in the chats rooms, meanwhile the number you are mentioned:
7 is 0.14% from the range 65,000–70,000
24 is 0.48% from the range 65,000–70,000

Less than 0.5% of the people who created a ticket, issue or open a case. I think these are still safe, cause we haven't even reached 1%. Just tried to wait and follow the process bro, sometimes panic can make you exhausted. You can take a looks on Casino Guru case, since you opened a thread on there... they are active to response at the time their turn response after getting contact by CG.

Actually the number of real active players is even much higher. Just made a 0.02$ bet to see which position in the 100k daily race this would give me and it's 235246.



So that's at least 235246 active members in the last 15 hours have made a bet. That tells you a lot! Seeing a couple of issues for people is such a tiny sample size, so there must be a reason for that. Stake doesn't "raffle" who, out of their quarter million active players just today, they are scamming now.
Of course rating place yet again jumped into this thread, just like in any sp.io thread, to post some nonsense.

I bet there is more to the story here.





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March 11, 2025, 12:21:14 PM
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Ok, this is going straight to Curacao Gaming Commission Complaints.

Unfortunately, the Curacao Gaming Control Board is the new partner in crime and you will likely waste your time:

Proof: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2178857.msg65155795#msg65155795

But good luck, nevertheless!



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March 11, 2025, 12:29:12 PM
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Ok, this is going straight to Curacao Gaming Commission Complaints.
I'm over their thievery.

There's one other option which is askgamblers:

https://www.askgamblers.com/gambling-news/ag-news/agccs-is-now-accepting-sports-betting-complaints

https://www.askgamblers.com/sports-betting/sportsbook-reviews/stake-sportsbook

Its weird because the guidelines says it can't be a sports-related issue, but the first link suggests otherwise.

Anyway, if I'm wrong, I'm sure someone will correct me pretty quickly.

One other thing, don't listen to this person:


They are a thief and their now-banned alt account has one of the worst reputations on the forum. Oh, excuse me, they actually have the worst reputation on the forum.  Cheesy

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March 11, 2025, 12:48:25 PM
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It is truly unsettling that there are 7 threads of scam accusations about Stake on Page 1 of this section.

What’s concerning is that the amount of complaints against Stake has been increasing at a high rate. Not only that but it’s the long delays that have always occurred.

That's what happens when a platform is too big to fail and uses an license that grants invincibility rather than holds them accountable, in a country where the gambling control board is clearly corrupt/negligent/non existent. Imagine how many complaints are not posted, and how many people have taken it laying down by Stake.com and other casinos like bc.game who also have a strong complaints presence in the scam accusation board? I tried to raise awareness about this in regards to bc.game in this thread however members did not understand the point that the presence of complaints also is an indicator of victims who do not speak, instead my trust rating was impacted for making the thread by the campaign manager of bc.game, who claims that I am "spreading charlatan ideas under the guise of snake oil".

Ok, this is going straight to Curacao Gaming Commission Complaints.
I'm over their thievery.


They are a thief and their now-banned alt account has one of the worst reputations on the forum. Oh, excuse me, they actually have the worst reputation on the forum.  Cheesy

I am not going to say anything about this persons reputation or theories (have been following occasionally but not here nor there as there's simply too much to keep up with) however I can concur that (based on the extensive research I conducted out of my own curiosity) the Curacao Gaming Control Board is very likely to be a deeply corrupt entity or at the very least, has been negligent to a lot of corruption, fraud and malpractice in relation to the licensing scheme which a lot of these casinos in this forum rely on to operate, and those who are using curacao licenses. Licenses seem to be purchased from master license holders and are not approved by any sort of stringent application process, while also acting more like regulatory immunity for a casino than it does being held accountable for any of their actions by the Curacao Gaming Control Board. In other words, the Curacao Gaming Control Board barely has any control over the casinos using its license.

I don't find it particularly coincidental that a user who is making posts in relation to casino malpractice to have the worst reputation on the forum. In my opinion and experience, any new or unestablished member should expect to have their trust rating to be made negative quite quickly if they speak out about casino malpractice, as casinos have clearly corrupted a segment of this forum and its members.

It is truly unsettling that there are 7 threads of scam accusations about Stake on Page 1 of this section.

I created a casino.guru complaint, if all else fails I'll go through Curacao gaming commission.
From what I see, currently 23 cases open against them at casino.guru, I'll be the 24th.

They have active member around 65,000-70,000 people are online and active in the chats rooms, meanwhile the number you are mentioned:
7 is 0.14% from the range 65,000–70,000
24 is 0.48% from the range 65,000–70,000

Less than 0.5% of the people who created a ticket, issue or open a case. I think these are still safe, cause we haven't even reached 1%. Just tried to wait and follow the process bro, sometimes panic can make you exhausted. You can take a looks on Casino Guru case, since you opened a thread on there... they are active to response at the time their turn response after getting contact by CG.

Actually the number of real active players is even much higher. Just made a 0.02$ bet to see which position in the 100k daily race this would give me and it's 235246.



So that's at least 235246 active members in the last 15 hours have made a bet. That tells you a lot! Seeing a couple of issues for people is such a tiny sample size, so there must be a reason for that. Stake doesn't "raffle" who, out of their quarter million active players just today, they are scamming now.
Of course rating place yet again jumped into this thread, just like in any sp.io thread, to post some nonsense.

There is nothing to verify "65,000 to 70,000 people online" or that 235,246 people participate in the daily race. There is nothing to disprove that 50,000+ of these are inflated or controlled by stake themselves to inflate activity and credibility (which is a common thing for corrupt entities t do) and there is nothing to prove that they are real. The numbers you have posted are from Stake's database. They can not be validated on the Blockchain in any way, therefore they are not certain numbers. Your post and that statistics/theory within it is weak at best.
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There is nothing to verify "65,000 to 70,000 people online" or that 235,246 people participate in the daily race. There is nothing to disprove that 50,000+ of these are inflated or controlled by stake themselves to inflate activity and credibility (which is a common thing for corrupt entities t do) and there is nothing to prove that they are real. The numbers you have posted are from Stake's database. They can not be validated on the Blockchain in any way, therefore they are not certain numbers. Your post and that statistics/theory within it is weak at best.

Funny you write something like this and then back up a forum cancer like blackyjacky.  Roll Eyes Roll Eyes
And sorry man, really not the smartest post from you tbh. Stake is BY FAR the biggest site in the crypto business and I have no doubt about these numbers. But hey, you believe what you want to believe, that's fine.

By the way, this blackyjacky guy's reputation here is so bad because he is a straight up spammer and also blames casinos for his losses while not even understanding the basic math behind games and house edge. You shouldn't give him the slightest reason to post more of his nonsense. Every person that encourages the behavior he displays should reconsider his actions. Sad to see.

Anyway, if OP has a case and believes in his innocence he should just go to the mentioned mediation platforms to seek help. Here he won't see much help since not even Stunna is around anymore.

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I tried to raise awareness about this in regards to bc.game in this thread however members did not understand the point that the presence of complaints also is an indicator of victims who do not speak, instead my trust rating was impacted for making the thread by the campaign manager of bc.game, who claims that I am "spreading charlatan ideas under the guise of snake oil".

This issue isn't about you... And you're still going on about how the absence of something is evidence of anything. It's not.

the Curacao Gaming Control Board is very likely to be a deeply corrupt entity or at the very least, has been negligent to a lot of corruption, fraud and malpractice in relation to the licensing scheme which a lot of these casinos in this forum rely on to operate, and those who are using curacao licenses.

The casino being advertised in your signature has a Curacao license.  Roll Eyes

I don't find it particularly coincidental that a user who is making posts in relation to casino malpractice to have the worst reputation on the forum.

When you find yourself siding with game-protect, its time to take a long, deep period of introspection and perform an evaluation of what exactly are you doing with your time here and your life in general. Its not my fault you don't know who they are or what they did to become the least trusted account ever. Take a few minutes to educate yourself.

There is nothing to verify "65,000 to 70,000 people online" or that 235,246 people participate in the daily race. There is nothing to disprove that 50,000+ of these are inflated or controlled by stake themselves to inflate activity and credibility (which is a common thing for corrupt entities t do) and there is nothing to prove that they are real.

Once again, when you make claims like this, its on you to provide the evidence to back them up, not on us to disprove them. Stake gets 55.44 MILLION visits a month. They are blowing the competition out of the water in that regard. So it doesn't seem totally irrational that their numbers would reflect 235,246 active daily participants, or more. This also means that they will have a lot more complaints than the average casino, both present and non-present. Does this mean they are completely clean in every way imaginable? No, it doesn't. But you haven't ever once provided proof or even evidence of jack shit.

Your post and that statistics/theory within it is weak at best.

Again... You are incapable of doing the slightest bit of introspection.


Sorry OP for derailing your topic. You seem like a rational person and I hope you get the issue resolved. This is my last post here.

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March 11, 2025, 09:03:43 PM
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the Curacao Gaming Control Board is very likely to be a deeply corrupt entity or at the very least, has been negligent to a lot of corruption, fraud and malpractice in relation to the licensing scheme which a lot of these casinos in this forum rely on to operate, and those who are using curacao licenses.

The casino being advertised in your signature has a Curacao license.  Roll Eyes

No, Betfury doesn't have a license from the Curacao Gaming Control Board (GCB)!

The GCB issued only a "Certificate of Operation" to Betfury during the license application process.

The GCB likely will not answer to complaints and if they do they will say that Betfury isn't licensed by them!  Cheesy


Same is applicable for Stake!  Cheesy

Nevertheless, good luck OP!
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There is nothing to verify "65,000 to 70,000 people online" or that 235,246 people participate in the daily race. There is nothing to disprove that 50,000+ of these are inflated or controlled by stake themselves to inflate activity and credibility (which is a common thing for corrupt entities t do) and there is nothing to prove that they are real. The numbers you have posted are from Stake's database. They can not be validated on the Blockchain in any way, therefore they are not certain numbers. Your post and that statistics/theory within it is weak at best.
Counted by several reasons:
- Stake one of the biggest casino, their revenue already beats every single online casino
- Statistic how much $ being share on weekly bonus
- The deals are made on several sector (Influencer, Artist, Streamer, Sport, other) in 2021 they really spending a lot money to promoted and make streamer move to kics
- Not just cover the casino business, in early stage of "Kicks"..... Stake.com cover or handling mostly financial things for Kicks about the deals and those platform
- You also got data web view from @nutildah

Now, with all of the things they're doing. It's still possible the number on that scale, unless the number users online or participants in the tournament are really high but they never spending a lot money to promotion or spending to something else.



It's just my two cent, If you have second thoughts you can always share..... Just saying "The numbers you have posted are from Stake's database. They can not be validated on the Blockchain in any way" meaning your statement is not just for stake but for all casino. Cause been in 4 years on gambling, never seeing some casino provided us with data their customer register or online with blockchain stuff (especially for web2 casino).

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I tried to raise awareness about this in regards to bc.game in this thread however members did not understand the point that the presence of complaints also is an indicator of victims who do not speak, instead my trust rating was impacted for making the thread by the campaign manager of bc.game, who claims that I am "spreading charlatan ideas under the guise of snake oil".

This issue isn't about you... And you're still going on about how the absence of something is evidence of anything. It's not.

It is reasonable to assume that out of the dozens of cases that bc.game have on this forum, that there are others who did not voice their problem on the forum (due to language barriers, unwillingness to comply with KYC, no hope, and so on). The assumption that 100% of those who have issues will use the forum to fight to get their funds back against a large casino is an unreasonable assumption. The proof is in the fact of how many cases there are against them. This applies also to other casinos.

the Curacao Gaming Control Board is very likely to be a deeply corrupt entity or at the very least, has been negligent to a lot of corruption, fraud and malpractice in relation to the licensing scheme which a lot of these casinos in this forum rely on to operate, and those who are using curacao licenses.

The casino being advertised in your signature has a Curacao license.  Roll Eyes

I've said it plenty of times before, if I don't wear the ad, a degenerate gambler who will wear the ad will give it back to casinos. Just because I don't believe in casinos, does not mean I'm not entitled to the advertising deals that they offer everyone on the forum. I could not care less about what is in my signature as long as they do not blatantly scam. I do not see any betfury scam accusation threads at rates in comparison to bc.game or stake, and if there are cases popping up anywhere near as often, I will stop wearing the campaign and talk to Royse about it.

I don't find it particularly coincidental that a user who is making posts in relation to casino malpractice to have the worst reputation on the forum.

When you find yourself siding with game-protect, its time to take a long, deep period of introspection and perform an evaluation of what exactly are you doing with your time here and your life in general. Its not my fault you don't know who they are or what they did to become the least trusted account ever. Take a few minutes to educate yourself.

I've done enough reading to know game-protect and I am not speaking about that controversial account. I am definitely not going to say that 100% of what game-protect said was untrue, and I am definitely not going to say that the casino establishment did not have any involvement in tarnishing their account. What I will say, is game-protect is one of the accounts that are symbolic of the existence of shady casino practices and the members of the forum that directly or indirectly protect them, your post is a perfect example of that.

What happens if one day you find a thread with proof of all of what I am speaking about, including quotes of of all of your posts, all of which begging the question: did nutildah know all along and was nutildah covering up the truth. Are you going to deny it, and say, "how could I possibly have known?". Or will you own it? If the answer is "how could I possibly have known?" then I ask you - what is your motivation for posting so certainly that nothing shady is going on? Do you see the contradiction?

There is nothing to verify "65,000 to 70,000 people online" or that 235,246 people participate in the daily race. There is nothing to disprove that 50,000+ of these are inflated or controlled by stake themselves to inflate activity and credibility (which is a common thing for corrupt entities t do) and there is nothing to prove that they are real.

Once again, when you make claims like this, its on you to provide the evidence to back them up, not on us to disprove them. Stake gets 55.44 MILLION visits a month. They are blowing the competition out of the water in that regard. So it doesn't seem totally irrational that their numbers would reflect 235,246 active daily participants, or more. This also means that they will have a lot more complaints than the average casino, both present and non-present. Does this mean they are completely clean in every way imaginable? No, it doesn't. But you haven't ever once provided proof or even evidence of jack shit.

I do not have unlimited free time and resources to spend on untangling the monolith of a web that it all is, to connect all of the dots that exist, articulate it as efficiently as possible and then present it in a way where people will actually read and care. While I've made good enough progress to speak as confidently as I do, you, I and everyone else who plays the proof card knows that it is a mission of hundreds (maybe thousands of) hours, that is very difficult to prove considering it is against those who are not strangers to anonymity. It is a low priority research hobby of mine with little to no incentive to complete, and for all I know when the thread is made, I could be banned, defamed, the thread could very well be deleted, so I'm not in any rush to complete it. Until then, I'll the forum outside of these conversations, whilst accumulating new quotes for as long as I like, like this one:

Does this mean they are completely clean in every way imaginable? No, it doesn't. But you haven't ever once provided proof or even evidence of jack shit.

Which becomes valid after proof is posted, as does a lot of the other junk that yourself and other high ranking members have posted in this last few months.

Your post and that statistics/theory within it is weak at best.

Again... You are incapable of doing the slightest bit of introspection.

And you are a 100% honest, upstanding member of the forum who defends nothing but the good of and for the community, who is transparent and does not hide or post in attempt to cover up any damning information about his corrupt and disgusting peers whenever such information starts to seep Roll Eyes


There is nothing to verify "65,000 to 70,000 people online" or that 235,246 people participate in the daily race. There is nothing to disprove that 50,000+ of these are inflated or controlled by stake themselves to inflate activity and credibility (which is a common thing for corrupt entities t do) and there is nothing to prove that they are real. The numbers you have posted are from Stake's database. They can not be validated on the Blockchain in any way, therefore they are not certain numbers. Your post and that statistics/theory within it is weak at best.
Counted by several reasons:
- Stake one of the biggest casino, their revenue already beats every single online casino
- Statistic how much $ being share on weekly bonus
- The deals are made on several sector (Influencer, Artist, Streamer, Sport, other) in 2021 they really spending a lot money to promoted and make streamer move to kics
- Not just cover the casino business, in early stage of "Kicks"..... Stake.com cover or handling mostly financial things for Kicks about the deals and those platform
- You also got data web view from @nutildah

Now, with all of the things they're doing. It's still possible the number on that scale, unless the number users online or participants in the tournament are really high but they never spending a lot money to promotion or spending to something else.

It's just my two cent, If you have second thoughts you can always share..... Just saying "The numbers you have posted are from Stake's database. They can not be validated on the Blockchain in any way" meaning your statement is not just for stake but for all casino. Cause been in 4 years on gambling, never seeing some casino provided us with data their customer register or online with blockchain stuff (especially for web2 casino).

Saying that number is real is as equal as saying it isn't. Casinos are businesses built on deception, why would their numbers make any difference? Can you or nutildah honestly say that 100% of accounts on Stake have absolutely no relation to stake themselves? That there are no bots or inflating of numbers? Please, that is naive of you to think...but nutildah is not naive.

Sorry OP for derailing your topic. You seem like a rational person and I hope you get the issue resolved. This is my last post here.

Appreciate the recognition. I'm sure the topic wasn't too affected.

Sorry for derailing your topic as well however the casinos in this problem are a big problem and a symptom of that problem is exactly what you are experiencing. I am not sure if your case is resolved yet or not, though since you have come to the forum, I am sure it will eventually be solved at some stage (I hope so for you of course). A part of the problem, is if you hadn't come to the forum for some reason...I believe that you would be hopeless if you had not have voiced your problem external to Stake.



There is nothing to verify "65,000 to 70,000 people online" or that 235,246 people participate in the daily race. There is nothing to disprove that 50,000+ of these are inflated or controlled by stake themselves to inflate activity and credibility (which is a common thing for corrupt entities t do) and there is nothing to prove that they are real. The numbers you have posted are from Stake's database. They can not be validated on the Blockchain in any way, therefore they are not certain numbers. Your post and that statistics/theory within it is weak at best.

Funny you write something like this and then back up a forum cancer like blackyjacky.  Roll Eyes Roll Eyes
And sorry man, really not the smartest post from you tbh. Stake is BY FAR the biggest site in the crypto business and I have no doubt about these numbers. But hey, you believe what you want to believe, that's fine.

By the way, this blackyjacky guy's reputation here is so bad because he is a straight up spammer and also blames casinos for his losses while not even understanding the basic math behind games and house edge. You shouldn't give him the slightest reason to post more of his nonsense. Every person that encourages the behavior he displays should reconsider his actions. Sad to see.

Anyway, if OP has a case and believes in his innocence he should just go to the mentioned mediation platforms to seek help. Here he won't see much help since not even Stunna is around anymore.

I am not backing anyone up, I speak from my own research, and from my research, the Curacao gaming control board is a corrupt authority that does not operate is intended, that the master license holders are a select few people who sell them, and that the Curacao gambling sector in general definitely fits in the description of corrupt.
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They got me too for over $6000, this thread has encouraged me to open my own thread and share my story.
Fuck stake.com, fucking scammers.
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What did the Curacao Gaming Control Board say?
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What did the Curacao Gaming Control Board say?

nunya

Even if they were active, bureaucracy takes months to years before any kind of outcome. Don't hold your breathe.

They got me too for over $6000, this thread has encouraged me to open my own thread and share my story.
Fuck stake.com, fucking scammers.

Sorry to hear that you're both caught up in this mess. Creating a thread on the forum seems to be the number one way to increase your odds of being heard, good that you came here.

@holydarkness is the self-proclaimed bridge between casinos and players, he works for free and is motivated by nothing more than making sure you both get paid. Since he has contact with casino higher ups, you both should bundle all the evidence you have, make your threads stronger, and contact him when done.
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@holydarkness is the self-proclaimed bridge between casinos and players, he works for free and is motivated by nothing more than making sure you both get paid. Since he has contact with casino higher ups, you both should bundle all the evidence you have, make your threads stronger, and contact him when done.

@HolyDarkness isn't qualified to offer online casino dispute mediation!

For example, it doesn't know how the casino collects the house edge!  Cheesy
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@holydarkness is the self-proclaimed bridge between casinos and players, he works for free and is motivated by nothing more than making sure you both get paid. Since he has contact with casino higher ups, you both should bundle all the evidence you have, make your threads stronger, and contact him when done.

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Are you able to help with my Stake case?

It's been almost 5 months and they still havent returned my money..

$10,000 is a lot of money to be stolen

Ahh well, now I see how and why you wrote that post quoted above on the other thread. Unfortunately, as explained on that thread, as I believe it's been made well known, I can't help with Stake.

Trying best as I can to help though, may I know what steps have you take and exhaust to get it resolved, other than creating this thread?

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Ahh well, now I see how and why you wrote that post quoted above on the other thread. Unfortunately, as explained on that thread, as I believe it's been made well known, I can't help with Stake.

Trying best as I can to help though, may I know what steps have you take and exhaust to get it resolved, other than creating this thread?

Absolutely everything from:
Contacting support who requested KYC
Complied wiith up to level 4 KYC and they even requested a picture of me holding my name on a piece of paper
Level 3 and 4 have been sitting "pending" for months
They claimed I violated ToS after, because they're saying anything at this point to withhold funds.
To lodging a complaint the guru site who apparently doesn't handle sports bets..

I came in almost half a year ago, made 2 bets and these guys are STILL holding my funds..

I can buy 2 houses in my country with that money!

Edit: just saw your other post

How about AskGamblers? Have you try them too? They're an ADR like CG, but  they do handle sportsbetting related matters. And Stake's with them too, last time I check [namely few seconds before I make this post]

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"Thank you for contacting Casino.Guru.
Unfortunately, we do not have a branch that deals with sports betting complaints at this time."

Ok, this is going straight to Curacao Gaming Commission Complaints.
I'm over their thievery.
The scam accusations being made against Stake are staggeringly high. Did you file a case with the Curacao licencing board?

the Curacao Gaming Control Board is very likely to be a deeply corrupt entity or at the very least, has been negligent to a lot of corruption, fraud and malpractice in relation to the licensing scheme which a lot of these casinos in this forum rely on to operate, and those who are using curacao licenses.
The casino being advertised in your signature has a Curacao license.  Roll Eyes
The irony  Grin

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the Curacao Gaming Control Board is very likely to be a deeply corrupt entity or at the very least, has been negligent to a lot of corruption, fraud and malpractice in relation to the licensing scheme which a lot of these casinos in this forum rely on to operate, and those who are using curacao licenses.
The casino being advertised in your signature has a Curacao license.  Roll Eyes

No, Betfury doesn't have a license!

It only has a "Certificate of Operation" during the license application process.
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