[Boxing] Naoya Inoue vs Ramon Cardenas - May 4

[Botnake]

That's just your opinion and conjecture, but it doesn't mean that Inoue will win straight away.

If I were you, I wouldn’t expect that there’s still a fighter who can match Inoue in his division. Almost all of his wins look like mismatches, so what else would people expect from his fights? Until he decides to move up, fans will always see his fights as if he’s cherry-picking his opponents.

No disrespect to Inoue but I think he’s stayed too long in that division and just wants to play it safe.

[Taskford]

That's just your opinion and conjecture, but it doesn't mean that Inoue will win straight away.

If I were you, I wouldn’t expect that there’s still a fighter who can match Inoue in his division. Almost all of his wins look like mismatches, so what else would people expect from his fights? Until he decides to move up, fans will always see his fights as if he’s cherry-picking his opponents.

No disrespect to Inoue but I think he’s stayed too long in that division and just wants to play it safe.

He stay on safe zone and want to maintain his record. Inoue need to step up since its obvious that he's not getting any exciting fight in his division.

This is so clear that he can get this fight and provably that there's less interest especially his opponent is not so famous in boxing scene. Don't know what happen to their negotiation with Tank and for sure many fans would love to see that fight to happen. By the way this is potential opponent of Inoue for this year https://www.boxingscene.com/articles/five-potential-fights-for-naoya-inoue-in-2025

[Zadicar]

That's just your opinion and conjecture, but it doesn't mean that Inoue will win straight away.

If I were you, I wouldn’t expect that there’s still a fighter who can match Inoue in his division. Almost all of his wins look like mismatches, so what else would people expect from his fights? Until he decides to move up, fans will always see his fights as if he’s cherry-picking his opponents.

No disrespect to Inoue but I think he’s stayed too long in that division and just wants to play it safe.

Once you do able to get all the belts on a certain division then its clear that you do able to dominate out this division and there's no other way or path to take but to move up and since Inoue is clearly up dominating this weight division then it will really be that far more interesting that he would definitely be doing this way. This is what his fans is really that wanting to see.. Any further fights which turned out to be that not really interesting at all. We can already anticipate or able to see out on whats the outcome already on which means that it might be true that he might be nitpicking into the opponents that he choses.
If he would really be that trying out to step upwards and dominating all the potential fights ahead then this is the time i would be considered him to be great. For now, then im not really that much of a fan.

[stadus]

He stay on safe zone and want to maintain his record. Inoue need to step up since its obvious that he's not getting any exciting fight in his division.

This is so clear that he can get this fight and provably that there's less interest especially his opponent is not so famous in boxing scene. Don't know what happen to their negotiation with Tank and for sure many fans would love to see that fight to happen. By the way this is potential opponent of Inoue for this year https://www.boxingscene.com/articles/five-potential-fights-for-naoya-inoue-in-2025

And that’s exactly what his promoter, Bob Arum, is saying comparing him to Pacman and even claiming that Inoue is better than Pacman. What a shame! He’s even scared to move up and challenge other champions, while Pacman never hesitated, even against fighters in much heavier weight classes. Honestly, Inoue is just an ordinary boxer,  he’s not as special as some people think.

[Baofeng]

He stay on safe zone and want to maintain his record. Inoue need to step up since its obvious that he's not getting any exciting fight in his division.

This is so clear that he can get this fight and provably that there's less interest especially his opponent is not so famous in boxing scene. Don't know what happen to their negotiation with Tank and for sure many fans would love to see that fight to happen. By the way this is potential opponent of Inoue for this year https://www.boxingscene.com/articles/five-potential-fights-for-naoya-inoue-in-2025

And that’s exactly what his promoter, Bob Arum, is saying comparing him to Pacman and even claiming that Inoue is better than Pacman. What a shame! He’s even scared to move up and challenge other champions, while Pacman never hesitated, even against fighters in much heavier weight classes. Honestly, Inoue is just an ordinary boxer,  he’s not as special as some people think.

Don't take it personally though, that's how Bob Arum is, when he had Manny, he said that he was the best boxer that ever lived. Now, he is promoting another Asian fighter and although he has the blue print to make Inoue great, it seems that Inoue or at least his manager doesn't want to go to that route of climbing in weight very fast and challenge the champion.

Definitely, as his promoter, Arum will say this kind of words to hype his fighter. But for fans, they are still very different fighter, both could be great but there should be no comparison as their path is very different.

[bbc.reporter]

We can see again Inoue outside of his protected land, this is a good fight, a much better one than having it in Japan.
Though the opponent might be weaker than what we are looking for this is a good chance for the untitled warrior.
But i think Inoue will go higher weight once he gets the belt and i will not see the Inoue vs Casimero in the making.

Yes, however, despite that Naoya Inoue is outside of the protected land and outside of any type of protection before the fight, his opponent Ramon is very much weaker than him and Inoue does not need protection from him hehehehe.

This will certainly be another boring knockout victory for Inoue which the fans will witness nothing new. It would have been better to have this fight in the protected land because the ending would be similar to Inoue's previous fights.

[cryptomaniac_xxx]

We can see again Inoue outside of his protected land, this is a good fight, a much better one than having it in Japan.
Though the opponent might be weaker than what we are looking for this is a good chance for the untitled warrior.
But i think Inoue will go higher weight once he gets the belt and i will not see the Inoue vs Casimero in the making.

Yes, however, despite that Naoya Inoue is outside of the protected land and outside of any type of protection before the fight, his opponent Ramon is very much weaker than him and Inoue does not need protection from him hehehehe.

This will certainly be another boring knockout victory for Inoue which the fans will witness nothing new. It would have been better to have this fight in the protected land because the ending would be similar to Inoue's previous fights.

They really doesn't want to take that big risk to fight competition, they are still very careful on matching him with great boxers, specially that we will be fighting outside of his native country for the first time after so many years.

So it gives the impression that they are afraid, despite Inoue wanting to go up in weight class and challenge bigger guy, it is not going to happen and so we we are somewhat disappointed seeing the name of Cardenas or their original pick (too lazy to search the name).

[bisdak40]

And that’s exactly what his promoter, Bob Arum, is saying comparing him to Pacman and even claiming that Inoue is better than Pacman. What a shame! He’s even scared to move up and challenge other champions, while Pacman never hesitated, even against fighters in much heavier weight classes. Honestly, Inoue is just an ordinary boxer,  he’s not as special as some people think.

I agree with you because, throughout Inoue's career, he was only truly challenged once by an older version of Nonito Donaire. I believe that if he had faced Donaire in his prime, the outcome of their fight might have been different. I have nothing against Inoue, but I think he should seek out the best opponents in the upper weight class rather than waiting for mandatory fights with predictable outcomes.

[Koadharber]

We can see again Inoue outside of his protected land, this is a good fight, a much better one than having it in Japan.
Though the opponent might be weaker than what we are looking for this is a good chance for the untitled warrior.
But i think Inoue will go higher weight once he gets the belt and i will not see the Inoue vs Casimero in the making.

Yes, however, despite that Naoya Inoue is outside of the protected land and outside of any type of protection before the fight, his opponent Ramon is very much weaker than him and Inoue does not need protection from him hehehehe.

This will certainly be another boring knockout victory for Inoue which the fans will witness nothing new. It would have been better to have this fight in the protected land because the ending would be similar to Inoue's previous fights.

They really doesn't want to take that big risk to fight competition, they are still very careful on matching him with great boxers, specially that we will be fighting outside of his native country for the first time after so many years.

So it gives the impression that they are afraid, despite Inoue wanting to go up in weight class and challenge bigger guy, it is not going to happen and so we we are somewhat disappointed seeing the name of Cardenas or their original pick (too lazy to search the name).

They wont really be that allowing their cash cow to suffer a single loss and might have that trying out to have those plans on what Mayweather did? Retired on having zero loss?
There's really that a fine line gap in between those boxers and with Inoue. It will really be just that remains to be like this if they wont really be that having such change on fighting bigger guys then he would really be just that remaining into this level.

I cant blame out into those fans that they would be having those words that Inoue is really just that being too afraid or the management is really that trying out to avoid him for it to be still undefeated.
We do know that this man does have that power but i highly doubt that he could be go toe to toe with those big guys above the ladder.

[Yaunfitda]

And that’s exactly what his promoter, Bob Arum, is saying comparing him to Pacman and even claiming that Inoue is better than Pacman. What a shame! He’s even scared to move up and challenge other champions, while Pacman never hesitated, even against fighters in much heavier weight classes. Honestly, Inoue is just an ordinary boxer,  he’s not as special as some people think.

I agree with you because, throughout Inoue's career, he was only truly challenged once by an older version of Nonito Donaire. I believe that if he had faced Donaire in his prime, the outcome of their fight might have been different. I have nothing against Inoue, but I think he should seek out the best opponents in the upper weight class rather than waiting for mandatory fights with predictable outcomes.

Yes, for those who have witnessed Donaire's prime, it will be a behold to see him, he has speed, power in his left hook, good boxing IQ and I will say that also has good chin and defense. And if Donaire vs Inoue prime for prime, I might give it to Donaire. Inoue is great no question about it, but he should be really going up in weight class. He is already in his 30's so it's better to really make the best of out if because you really don't know when you are out of your prime. So another fight for him against a mismatch opponent doesn't help his case for the best p4p. He could go up at 126 lbs and see if he is overhype at lower weight class, or if he is that good that his name could be compare to the legendary Manny Pacman Pacquiao.

[Kemarit]

And that’s exactly what his promoter, Bob Arum, is saying comparing him to Pacman and even claiming that Inoue is better than Pacman. What a shame! He’s even scared to move up and challenge other champions, while Pacman never hesitated, even against fighters in much heavier weight classes. Honestly, Inoue is just an ordinary boxer,  he’s not as special as some people think.

I agree with you because, throughout Inoue's career, he was only truly challenged once by an older version of Nonito Donaire. I believe that if he had faced Donaire in his prime, the outcome of their fight might have been different. I have nothing against Inoue, but I think he should seek out the best opponents in the upper weight class rather than waiting for mandatory fights with predictable outcomes.

And if you look at it, very obvious that they are playing safe as they are not going up in weight as told by Bob Arum. Everyone is waiting for him to go up to 126 lbs because there's no more challenge at 122 lbs. But instead, they just do one part of the bargain, that is, Inoue fighting in the US and not in his native country. But other than that, nothing is new here, and agree that this is a predictable outcome.

Not sure as well if there will be boxing bettors who are going to stake some money in here as the odds is not going to be attracted and it's one sided. Hopefully, after this fight, Inoue will go up in weight class, in Featherweight division so that it will be a totally difference challenge and maybe we will see the best version of Inoue there. And it's ok to lose, no need to protect that 0.

[bbc.reporter]

We can see again Inoue outside of his protected land, this is a good fight, a much better one than having it in Japan.
Though the opponent might be weaker than what we are looking for this is a good chance for the untitled warrior.
But i think Inoue will go higher weight once he gets the belt and i will not see the Inoue vs Casimero in the making.

Yes, however, despite that Naoya Inoue is outside of the protected land and outside of any type of protection before the fight, his opponent Ramon is very much weaker than him and Inoue does not need protection from him hehehehe.

This will certainly be another boring knockout victory for Inoue which the fans will witness nothing new. It would have been better to have this fight in the protected land because the ending would be similar to Inoue's previous fights.

They really doesn't want to take that big risk to fight competition, they are still very careful on matching him with great boxers, specially that we will be fighting outside of his native country for the first time after so many years.

So it gives the impression that they are afraid, despite Inoue wanting to go up in weight class and challenge bigger guy, it is not going to happen and so we we are somewhat disappointed seeing the name of Cardenas or their original pick (too lazy to search the name).

I reckon the best boxer for Naoya Inoue's fight outside of his protected land would be Johnriel Casimero. Presently Casimero is anymore the strong boxer we have witnessed before, however, his name is more famous and more known than Ramon Cardenas. He also a trashtalker hehehen. The fans will very much like to witness their interviews and press conferences hehehe.

The storyline for Johnriel Casimero is he might have a chance to have the victory. On Ramon Cardenas, they cannot create this storyline, only speculations from fans that they are not taking a risk.

[Baofeng]

We can see again Inoue outside of his protected land, this is a good fight, a much better one than having it in Japan.
Though the opponent might be weaker than what we are looking for this is a good chance for the untitled warrior.
But i think Inoue will go higher weight once he gets the belt and i will not see the Inoue vs Casimero in the making.

Yes, however, despite that Naoya Inoue is outside of the protected land and outside of any type of protection before the fight, his opponent Ramon is very much weaker than him and Inoue does not need protection from him hehehehe.

This will certainly be another boring knockout victory for Inoue which the fans will witness nothing new. It would have been better to have this fight in the protected land because the ending would be similar to Inoue's previous fights.

They really doesn't want to take that big risk to fight competition, they are still very careful on matching him with great boxers, specially that we will be fighting outside of his native country for the first time after so many years.

So it gives the impression that they are afraid, despite Inoue wanting to go up in weight class and challenge bigger guy, it is not going to happen and so we we are somewhat disappointed seeing the name of Cardenas or their original pick (too lazy to search the name).

I reckon the best boxer for Naoya Inoue's fight outside of his protected land would be Johnriel Casimero. Presently Casimero is anymore the strong boxer we have witnessed before, however, his name is more famous and more known than Ramon Cardenas. He also a trashtalker hehehen. The fans will very much like to witness their interviews and press conferences hehehe.

The storyline for Johnriel Casimero is he might have a chance to have the victory. On Ramon Cardenas, they cannot create this storyline, only speculations from fans that they are not taking a risk.

Akhmadaliev and John Riel Casimero are two names that are missing on Inoue's resume at 122 lbs. But it seems that at least for Casimero, Inoue is not willing to fight him and we can only speculate that he is ducking him.

Because after Cardenas, it was reported that maybe Akhmadaliev will be next for him and after that straight to 126 lbs. However, we all know that Cardenas is a mismatch for Inoue and probably that's why they take him as the replacement for another mismatch boxer that they originally schedule to fight.

[letteredhub]

Naoya will dismantle this Ramon Cardenas within five rounds. He shouldn't be worried about getting right into exchanging blows against the American. Cardenas doesn't have that much power in him. But he should be happy he's given the opportunity to fight Naoya. He's got nothing to lose.

https://x.com/ringmagazine/status/1900004271585964366?t=D_cLDeWtHBLKhQvxa6XFww&s=19
Can it end in a KO?

Your confidence on the Japanese is as good as mine, a two times undisputed.  We are not unaware that Naoya is with a good track record having won three titles which clearly shows a much experience than Ramon Cardenas whose KO is even very below that of Naoya with monsterous 26 KO's in 29 fights. And judging by his antecedents Ramon Cardenas don't stand a chance.

[AmoreJaz]

They really doesn't want to take that big risk to fight competition, they are still very careful on matching him with great boxers, specially that we will be fighting outside of his native country for the first time after so many years.

So it gives the impression that they are afraid, despite Inoue wanting to go up in weight class and challenge bigger guy, it is not going to happen and so we we are somewhat disappointed seeing the name of Cardenas or their original pick (too lazy to search the name).

I reckon the best boxer for Naoya Inoue's fight outside of his protected land would be Johnriel Casimero. Presently Casimero is anymore the strong boxer we have witnessed before, however, his name is more famous and more known than Ramon Cardenas. He also a trashtalker hehehen. The fans will very much like to witness their interviews and press conferences hehehe.

The storyline for Johnriel Casimero is he might have a chance to have the victory. On Ramon Cardenas, they cannot create this storyline, only speculations from fans that they are not taking a risk.

Akhmadaliev and John Riel Casimero are two names that are missing on Inoue's resume at 122 lbs. But it seems that at least for Casimero, Inoue is not willing to fight him and we can only speculate that he is ducking him.

Because after Cardenas, it was reported that maybe Akhmadaliev will be next for him and after that straight to 126 lbs. However, we all know that Cardenas is a mismatch for Inoue and probably that's why they take him as the replacement for another mismatch boxer that they originally schedule to fight.

I don't believe that Inoue is ducking Casimero as the circumstances  made it hard for them to meet. Like Casimero being suspended for violating some protocols, hence, not winning and meeting him for a fight. The chances of having them were there, however, it was on Casimero's side why such chance didn't happen. And with Inoue's status right now, I don't think it would be easy for Casimero to challenge for a fight. Casimero needs to fight other fighters before Inoue. That's the reality. And I guess, a lot of Casimero's fans is not accepting such fact. They are still pushing what they believe that Inoue is ducking Casimero.

Anyway, for Casimero - he needs to win every fight that is being offered to him. No excuses. That's when we can tell if he is indeed serious in this sports. Just like in the early days of Pacquiao, win or lose, he faced a lot of top contenders in this sports, even if he was a heavy underdog. No excuses!

[bbc.reporter]

We can see again Inoue outside of his protected land, this is a good fight, a much better one than having it in Japan.
Though the opponent might be weaker than what we are looking for this is a good chance for the untitled warrior.
But i think Inoue will go higher weight once he gets the belt and i will not see the Inoue vs Casimero in the making.

Yes, however, despite that Naoya Inoue is outside of the protected land and outside of any type of protection before the fight, his opponent Ramon is very much weaker than him and Inoue does not need protection from him hehehehe.

This will certainly be another boring knockout victory for Inoue which the fans will witness nothing new. It would have been better to have this fight in the protected land because the ending would be similar to Inoue's previous fights.

They really doesn't want to take that big risk to fight competition, they are still very careful on matching him with great boxers, specially that we will be fighting outside of his native country for the first time after so many years.

So it gives the impression that they are afraid, despite Inoue wanting to go up in weight class and challenge bigger guy, it is not going to happen and so we we are somewhat disappointed seeing the name of Cardenas or their original pick (too lazy to search the name).

I reckon the best boxer for Naoya Inoue's fight outside of his protected land would be Johnriel Casimero. Presently Casimero is anymore the strong boxer we have witnessed before, however, his name is more famous and more known than Ramon Cardenas. He also a trashtalker hehehen. The fans will very much like to witness their interviews and press conferences hehehe.

The storyline for Johnriel Casimero is he might have a chance to have the victory. On Ramon Cardenas, they cannot create this storyline, only speculations from fans that they are not taking a risk.

Akhmadaliev and John Riel Casimero are two names that are missing on Inoue's resume at 122 lbs. But it seems that at least for Casimero, Inoue is not willing to fight him and we can only speculate that he is ducking him.

Because after Cardenas, it was reported that maybe Akhmadaliev will be next for him and after that straight to 126 lbs. However, we all know that Cardenas is a mismatch for Inoue and probably that's why they take him as the replacement for another mismatch boxer that they originally schedule to fight.

Agreed. However, we cannot be certain if Naoya Inoue's team is ducking Johnriel Casimero because they are afraid to have Naoya against Johnriel in the ring. It might be the difficulty on negotiations and failures of Casimero to reduce weight.

We can wish that instead of Akhmadaliev after Ramon Cardenas, it will be Johnriel Casimero who will be chosen. They can promote this with a revenge storyline after the losses of Nonito and Marlon Tapales heheheheh.

[bisdak40]

I don't believe that Inoue is ducking Casimero as the circumstances  made it hard for them to meet. Like Casimero being suspended for violating some protocols, hence, not winning and meeting him for a fight.

I don't believe the accusation that Inoue is ducking Casimero. It's Quadro Alas' fault that he can't land a fight with the Japanese Monster. First, he doesn't have enough fights to warrant Top Rank's attention, and second, he has issues with his weight. But it would be good if Team Inoue would consider him as future to silence the critics and close the issue once and for all.

[cryptomaniac_xxx]

I don't believe that Inoue is ducking Casimero as the circumstances  made it hard for them to meet. Like Casimero being suspended for violating some protocols, hence, not winning and meeting him for a fight.

I don't believe the accusation that Inoue is ducking Casimero. It's Quadro Alas' fault that he can't land a fight with the Japanese Monster. First, he doesn't have enough fights to warrant Top Rank's attention, and second, he has issues with his weight. But it would be good if Team Inoue would consider him as future to silence the critics and close the issue once and for all.

Barring that circumstances already, the weight issues and then him going up in weight and with that also in the same division as Inoue, he should at least consider him again because that's what the fans wanted.

For sure you wanted to see your fellow Filipino fight Inoue right? So with that, Inoue and his team should give Casimero a chance, instead of getting names like Cardenas or Picasso, the original fighter that he is scheduled to fight but back up because his father thinks that his son is not ready for Inoue.

[FinneysTrueVision]

We can wish that instead of Akhmadaliev after Ramon Cardenas, it will be Johnriel Casimero who will be chosen. They can promote this with a revenge storyline after the losses of Nonito and Marlon Tapales heheheheh.

There is no storyline there. Donaire and Casimero hated each other and Tapales was only briefly relevant and has largely been forgotten already. Despite having a fanbase that is very vocal on social media, Casimero has never been a draw that can sell a lot of tickets. That is why he is always fighting as the visitor. Besides all that, he fights so sporadically that he has not become a factor in the division.

Say what you will about Inoue’s opponent selection, but for fighting in Las Vegas on a Mexican holiday, it made the most sense to pick an opponent of Mexican descent, from a marketing perspective.

[ultrloa]

We can wish that instead of Akhmadaliev after Ramon Cardenas, it will be Johnriel Casimero who will be chosen. They can promote this with a revenge storyline after the losses of Nonito and Marlon Tapales heheheheh.

There is no storyline there. Donaire and Casimero hated each other and Tapales was only briefly relevant and has largely been forgotten already. Despite having a fanbase that is very vocal on social media, Casimero has never been a draw that can sell a lot of tickets. That is why he is always fighting as the visitor. Besides all that, he fights so sporadically that he has not become a factor in the division.

Say what you will about Inoue’s opponent selection, but for fighting in Las Vegas on a Mexican holiday, it made the most sense to pick an opponent of Mexican descent, from a marketing perspective.

Actually if they can create a hype base on what @bbc.reporter said they can create that. Somehow fans still calling up for Casimero vs Inoue match. Since its like unfinish business fight between these two great fighters.

But as we all know there's nothing to get if they fight Casimero that's why there's no promotion push this one because maybe Inoue's camp is looking for a good milestone for his career and they are not casting fights for pure hype.

What people need to focus now if we can see a great fight between Inoue and that Mexican fighter since many are curious to know on how many rounds does Inoue would finish this fight.