[Boxing] Naoya Inoue vs Ramon Cardenas - May 4

[bisdak40]

i just noticed we have a different poll on this fight; usually the poll is who is between the fighter who will win and in what manner, but on this one its what round will Inoue knock out Cardenas,
bisdak40 is right in coming with a poll like this, because there is no use creating a poll on who will win aon this fight, because Inoue is 100% going to win this fight, unless he suffer from diarrhea on the night of the fight.  

I'm glad you agree with this type of poll because I believe Ramon Cardenas has no chance of beating Naoya Inoue. Even the bookmakers' odds reflect this, making a poll on the fight's outcome seem unnecessary since the winner is quite predictable.

[btc_angela]

I voted for round 4-6.

Perhaps in the early rounds, Cardenas will play though as he might think that this is his homecourt this Inoue has fight for a long time in the States.

And after that early feeling round, and when Inoue adjustment already on Cardenas style that will start in round 3. Then soften him up in the next two rounds. And in the 6th he might go for a knockout.

[Japinat]

I voted for round 4-6.

Perhaps in the early rounds, Cardenas will play though as he might think that this is his homecourt this Inoue has fight for a long time in the States.

And after that early feeling round, and when Inoue adjustment already on Cardenas style that will start in round 3. Then soften him up in the next two rounds. And in the 6th he might go for a knockout.

If Cardenas fights aggressively, then this fight will most likely end early, so my bet would be on rounds 1-3.

I know the odds aren’t out yet, but once they are, what do you think they’d be for that round range? If I can get at least 4x the odds, I’d definitely consider putting a decent amount on it.

[Yaunfitda]

I voted for round 4-6.

Perhaps in the early rounds, Cardenas will play though as he might think that this is his homecourt this Inoue has fight for a long time in the States.

And after that early feeling round, and when Inoue adjustment already on Cardenas style that will start in round 3. Then soften him up in the next two rounds. And in the 6th he might go for a knockout.

If Cardenas fights aggressively, then this fight will most likely end early, so my bet would be on rounds 1-3.

I know the odds aren’t out yet, but once they are, what do you think they’d be for that round range? If I can get at least 4x the odds, I’d definitely consider putting a decent amount on it.

Usually the round range is a good and high odds because it's a very difficult to bet. So maybe yeah, around 3.x and higher for that. Although the most difficult to be in the exact round,  but you also need some luck on your side to hit that one. And most likely, 1-3 or 4-6 must be a good and safe bet already as we all know that Inoue usually knockout his opponent around that time. But so far since crypto base casinos doesn't have that listed, we can all speculate for now. And again, as much as Inoue is a great boxer, most of the times, if they are going to list this one, it could be a day before the actual fight.

[bisdak40]

So far, below are the odds for the round range and as expected, rounds 1-6 has the lower odds because that's the rounds where most like the fight will end and the later it will end the bigger the odds as most people think that this fight will end early, round 6 the latest. BTW, this odds is from our local fiat bookies as no crypto-bookies has release this kind of odds as of now.

[TravelMug]

So far, below are the odds for the round range and as expected, rounds 1-6 has the lower odds because that's the rounds where most like the fight will end and the later it will end the bigger the odds as most people think that this fight will end early, round 6 the latest. BTW, this odds is from our local fiat bookies as no crypto-bookies has release this kind of odds as of now.

Is this from our Bingo Plus=>Sports Plus odds?

I think it will still be same or close to the odds that the crypto sports bookies might released later. So at least we will have that idea already. So yes, I do agree mate, that rounds 1-6 is a good bet.

It's lower odds but still 3.x and up odds is already attractive in a boxing match. And it's really base on Inoue's previous fight, if I'm not mistaken, it is only Tapales that went as high as round 10 fighting Inoue. Most of his opponents didn't last that long.

[bisdak40]

So far, below are the odds for the round range and as expected, rounds 1-6 has the lower odds because that's the rounds where most like the fight will end and the later it will end the bigger the odds as most people think that this fight will end early, round 6 the latest. BTW, this odds is from our local fiat bookies as no crypto-bookies has release this kind of odds as of now.

Is this from our Bingo Plus=>Sports Plus odds?

I think it will still be same or close to the odds that the crypto sports bookies might released later. So at least we will have that idea already. So yes, I do agree mate, that rounds 1-6 is a good bet.

It's lower odds but still 3.x and up odds is already attractive in a boxing match. And it's really base on Inoue's previous fight, if I'm not mistaken, it is only Tapales that went as high as round 10 fighting Inoue. Most of his opponents didn't last that long.

Yes mate, those odds are from Sportsplus and i do agree that this kind of odds will be more or less the same on crypto-bookies once they release their own markets for the fight.

No disrespect to Ramon Cardenas and to his followers but i do think that this fight would end under six rounds especially if Cardenas will be aggressive on the get-go.

[TravelMug]

So far, below are the odds for the round range and as expected, rounds 1-6 has the lower odds because that's the rounds where most like the fight will end and the later it will end the bigger the odds as most people think that this fight will end early, round 6 the latest. BTW, this odds is from our local fiat bookies as no crypto-bookies has release this kind of odds as of now.

Is this from our Bingo Plus=>Sports Plus odds?

I think it will still be same or close to the odds that the crypto sports bookies might released later. So at least we will have that idea already. So yes, I do agree mate, that rounds 1-6 is a good bet.

It's lower odds but still 3.x and up odds is already attractive in a boxing match. And it's really base on Inoue's previous fight, if I'm not mistaken, it is only Tapales that went as high as round 10 fighting Inoue. Most of his opponents didn't last that long.

Yes mate, those odds are from Sportsplus and i do agree that this kind of odds will be more or less the same on crypto-bookies once they release their own markets for the fight.

No disrespect to Ramon Cardenas and to his followers but i do think that this fight would end under six rounds especially if Cardenas will be aggressive on the get-go.

Yeah, I just visited Sports plus and I saw this odds already. I do not know if someone here follows Cardenas or have heard his name before. Anyway, I think majority has voted for rounds 1-6 as the most likely rounds that Inoue will end this fight.

And the odds are still very attractive to start, triple your money is goo enough I guess. So barely one month from this fight, I'm imaging that both are in the middle of their training pushing themselves hard. And maybe as the fight gets closer we will see more news about this fight specially that Inoue is active as his social media.

[Dave1]

I voted for round 4-6.

Perhaps in the early rounds, Cardenas will play though as he might think that this is his homecourt this Inoue has fight for a long time in the States.

And after that early feeling round, and when Inoue adjustment already on Cardenas style that will start in round 3. Then soften him up in the next two rounds. And in the 6th he might go for a knockout.

If Cardenas fights aggressively, then this fight will most likely end early, so my bet would be on rounds 1-3.

I know the odds aren’t out yet, but once they are, what do you think they’d be for that round range? If I can get at least 4x the odds, I’d definitely consider putting a decent amount on it.

And we have seen that is a bad strategy for those who have face Inoue. Nonito Donaire try this strategy when he thought that he can go toe to toe against Inoue and was knockout on the second round.

I think Cardenas is more intelligent that this, he won't go early and throw everything, he will be very cautious. However, we all know that Inoue's power is very different and just above everyone at this division. And he might still be caught early by Inoue and when he taste that power, it will be a very game for him.

[Russlenat]

And we have seen that is a bad strategy for those who have face Inoue. Nonito Donaire try this strategy when he thought that he can go toe to toe against Inoue and was knockout on the second round.

I think Cardenas is more intelligent that this, he won't go early and throw everything, he will be very cautious. However, we all know that Inoue's power is very different and just above everyone at this division. And he might still be caught early by Inoue and when he taste that power, it will be a very game for him.

It really depends on the boxer. If someone like Cardenas truly believes in himself, he shouldn't change his strategy. He needs to find a path to victory, either go for an early knockout or survive longer rounds. But honestly, dragging it out probably won't work against Inoue's speed. His best shot? Perfectly timed counterpunches to exploit Inoue's weak spots.

We've seen Inoue go down before. If a power puncher had capitalized on that moment, the fight might've ended right there.

[Kemarit]

And we have seen that is a bad strategy for those who have face Inoue. Nonito Donaire try this strategy when he thought that he can go toe to toe against Inoue and was knockout on the second round.

I think Cardenas is more intelligent that this, he won't go early and throw everything, he will be very cautious. However, we all know that Inoue's power is very different and just above everyone at this division. And he might still be caught early by Inoue and when he taste that power, it will be a very game for him.

It really depends on the boxer. If someone like Cardenas truly believes in himself, he shouldn't change his strategy. He needs to find a path to victory, either go for an early knockout or survive longer rounds. But honestly, dragging it out probably won't work against Inoue's speed. His best shot? Perfectly timed counterpunches to exploit Inoue's weak spots.

We've seen Inoue go down before. If a power puncher had capitalized on that moment, the fight might've ended right there.

He needs to change his strategy if it is not working, that's the true sign of a great boxer, switching in the fly and adjust because otherwise, he will not give himself a chance to win in this fight. Just like what Inoue did on his fight against Nery, he was knockdown and it instantly switch his mindset and strategy. So in the later rounds, he knock him out for good.

The thing though is we haven't seen any blue print yet on how to beat Inoue. The closest in Nonito fight with him at the WBSS tournament, he broke Inoue's jaw that time, but he still lost the fight. The second is what I have mentioned, Nery. However, after he scored a knockdown, Inoue level up his style and never give Nery that chance again.

[r_victory]

I'd rather not risk a guess, both have theoretically the same chance of winning, just look at the statistics of both, even if the favorite is Inoue. It won't be an easy fight, in my opinion, Cardenas comes with an appetite to win, and it's a great opportunity for him. In the end, he could end up defying all expectations of this fight.

[bisdak40]

I'd rather not risk a guess, both have theoretically the same chance of winning, just look at the statistics of both, even if the favorite is Inoue. It won't be an easy fight, in my opinion, Cardenas comes with an appetite to win, and it's a great opportunity for him. In the end, he could end up defying all expectations of this fight.

If we look at the odds on this fight, Naoya Inoue is the overwhelming favorite and yes, 99 percent he will win this fight without a doubt and an upset is a very slim possibility though we don't ruled it out but with Inoue not taking any chances i do think that he will succeed on depending his title against Ramon Cardenas.

[btc_angela]

I'd rather not risk a guess, both have theoretically the same chance of winning, just look at the statistics of both, even if the favorite is Inoue. It won't be an easy fight, in my opinion, Cardenas comes with an appetite to win, and it's a great opportunity for him. In the end, he could end up defying all expectations of this fight.

Lol, are you sure of that? Did you check what the odds are? Cardenas is 14:1 underdog in this fight. So I don't see it as a same chance of winning. And we have read and seen the comments of boxing fans here and almost everyone favors Inoue here.

Anyhow, if you think that Cardenas has a better chance to beat Inoue, then it's better to put a bet on him right now so that you can win big and as what you have said, "defy" all expectations and pull the upset of the year.

[TravelMug]

I'd rather not risk a guess, both have theoretically the same chance of winning, just look at the statistics of both, even if the favorite is Inoue. It won't be an easy fight, in my opinion, Cardenas comes with an appetite to win, and it's a great opportunity for him. In the end, he could end up defying all expectations of this fight.

If we look at the odds on this fight, Naoya Inoue is the overwhelming favorite and yes, 99 percent he will win this fight without a doubt and an upset is a very slim possibility though we don't ruled it out but with Inoue not taking any chances i do think that he will succeed on depending his title against Ramon Cardenas.

Yes, Inoue will be stepping out in the US again, so just imagine the disaster that he will have if Cardenas upset him in this fight. And we have seen that he is really has that good boxing IQ and not taking for granted any fight.

Not saying that Cardenas will not win, but his chances are very small against the version of Inoue which could be in his prime right now. And looking at what odd makers listed, Inoue is going to win this fight and it's just what rounds will he get his knockout.

[Japinat]

Anyhow, if you think that Cardenas has a better chance to beat Inoue, then it's better to put a bet on him right now so that you can win big and as what you have said, "defy" all expectations and pull the upset of the year.

No way would I ever bet against Inoue unless he's facing Casimero. That's a fight where I'd confidently put my money down, since Casimero's experience and former champion status give him a real shot at the upset. But realistically, the chances of this matchup happening seem slim. Even if fans demand it, Inoue could easily avoid the risk and cherry-pick safer opponents he knows he can dominate.

[Kemarit]

Anyhow, if you think that Cardenas has a better chance to beat Inoue, then it's better to put a bet on him right now so that you can win big and as what you have said, "defy" all expectations and pull the upset of the year.

No way would I ever bet against Inoue unless he's facing Casimero. That's a fight where I'd confidently put my money down, since Casimero's experience and former champion status give him a real shot at the upset. But realistically, the chances of this matchup happening seem slim. Even if fans demand it, Inoue could easily avoid the risk and cherry-pick safer opponents he knows he can dominate.

True, if ever boxing fans might bet against Inoue even if the spread is high is against Casimero. Because we believed the Casimero might have a good chance to beat Inoue because of his power and he is not afraid to go toe to toe against anyone.

However, this might not happened unfortunately, maybe after Cardenas he will be fighting Murodjon and that's it. He will be moving in the next weight class as the champion there are already talking about Inoue.

[Lanatsa]

Anyhow, if you think that Cardenas has a better chance to beat Inoue, then it's better to put a bet on him right now so that you can win big and as what you have said, "defy" all expectations and pull the upset of the year.

No way would I ever bet against Inoue unless he's facing Casimero. That's a fight where I'd confidently put my money down, since Casimero's experience and former champion status give him a real shot at the upset. But realistically, the chances of this matchup happening seem slim. Even if fans demand it, Inoue could easily avoid the risk and cherry-pick safer opponents he knows he can dominate.

True, if ever boxing fans might bet against Inoue even if the spread is high is against Casimero. Because we believed the Casimero might have a good chance to beat Inoue because of his power and he is not afraid to go toe to toe against anyone.

However, this might not happened unfortunately, maybe after Cardenas he will be fighting Murodjon and that's it. He will be moving in the next weight class as the champion there are already talking about Inoue.

Is this official? After fighting Cardenas then Murodjon then moving up into next weight class? I havent seen any news headlines about it or updates.

“I will stay at this 122 pound division for two more years,” Inoue, 27-0(24) said. “Without being physically matured and developed, I won’t move up to the feather [weight] category.”
Source: (https://www.boxing247.com/boxing-news/naoya-inoue-to-stay-at-122-pounds-for-two-more-years/280567)

So we would be expecting that he might be that moving on next year 2026, or simply i have missed something?
Everyone is eyeing for him to move up and there's no point on staying on super bantamweight.

For Casimero talks, the gap is already too much and everything with those hypes will be just that remain there and there's no possibility to catch up and made this fight happen.

[bisdak40]

Is this official? After fighting Cardenas then Murodjon then moving up into next weight class? I havent seen any news headlines about it or updates.

“I will stay at this 122 pound division for two more years,” Inoue, 27-0(24) said. “Without being physically matured and developed, I won’t move up to the feather [weight] category.”
Source: (https://www.boxing247.com/boxing-news/naoya-inoue-to-stay-at-122-pounds-for-two-more-years/280567)

So we would be expecting that he might be that moving on next year 2026, or simply i have missed something?
Everyone is eyeing for him to move up and there's no point on staying on super bantamweight.

For Casimero talks, the gap is already too much and everything with those hypes will be just that remain there and there's no possibility to catch up and made this fight happen.

Though no official announcement yet but i have read an article saying that after this Cardenas fight, he will fight the mandatory Murodjon Akhmadaliev next before moving up but i have not read that he will stay in the super bantamweight for two more years. There is no more exciting opponents for Inoue in this division unless they will setup an All-Japanese unified championship fight against Junto Nakatani which Inoue confronted months ago.

[btc_angela]

Is this official? After fighting Cardenas then Murodjon then moving up into next weight class? I havent seen any news headlines about it or updates.

“I will stay at this 122 pound division for two more years,” Inoue, 27-0(24) said. “Without being physically matured and developed, I won’t move up to the feather [weight] category.”
Source: (https://www.boxing247.com/boxing-news/naoya-inoue-to-stay-at-122-pounds-for-two-more-years/280567)

So we would be expecting that he might be that moving on next year 2026, or simply i have missed something?
Everyone is eyeing for him to move up and there's no point on staying on super bantamweight.

For Casimero talks, the gap is already too much and everything with those hypes will be just that remain there and there's no possibility to catch up and made this fight happen.

Though no official announcement yet but i have read an article saying that after this Cardenas fight, he will fight the mandatory Murodjon Akhmadaliev next before moving up but i have not read that he will stay in the super bantamweight for two more years. There is no more exciting opponents for Inoue in this division unless they will setup an All-Japanese unified championship fight against Junto Nakatani which Inoue confronted months ago.

Yes, it might be a good idea though for him to move up or fight one last time at this weight against Murodjon, after that he has clean this division already. But it seems that his compatriot is chasing him as you have said.

Nakatani is also going up and destroying anyone but if I'm not mistaken, he is still in the 118 lbs, and so if he wanted to fight his fellow Japanese then he will have to move up.  I still gonna put my money on Inoue though if he faces Nakatani, Junto is good but I don't think he is in the level of Inoue. Specially on how Inoue just knocking everyone at his weight class right now.