suchmoon has such lack of grasping terminology and methodology of how SS dep even gets a 'bag of money' to a sizable tune to even have enough to waste, steal, syphon or payout to fraudsters. it needs to be spelled out to him in depth at lowering levels of intelligence until he understands, then we can move the topic along to the actual spending/wasting/fraud part.. but he keeps having issues with the first part and cant accept common sense stuff
as for you assuming i looked up some tweet.. (made me laugh).. i used YOUR source of data about the ~$70b.. it was not some tweet i found it was from YOUR link YOU posted as part of your debunk rebuttal post several posts ago
That's even worse because you obviously can't read even when the information is handed to you.
Pretty much everything you posted about how the SSA works is wrong. "Mandatory spending" doesn't mean what you think it does. There are no appropriations for payouts to SS recipients. SSA doesn't get a trillion dollar a bag of money that they absolutely have to pay out or spend on blow and hookers. They must (therefore "mandatory") pay every eligible recipient, not based on some nebulous "database" of dead people. And you still don't understand basic percentages. I did notice that the more wrong you are, the longer your walls of text get, so please don't disappoint with your next one, thank you very much.
you are so wrong on so many levels
the reason i have to write more "walls of text", is because i have to repeat myself because your mis clarifications show your still not reading things or researching things right so you need correcting repeatedly
firstly i never said appropriations were related to amounts for SS active claimant recipients(retirement citizens) payments.. only you are concluding that because you have not done any research and you are not even reading whats actually wrote, you just dont like the answer so say something silly and pretend its what i must have meant(in your mind)
i said about the
SS departments BUDGET before it even gets to the part of the month/year of having to pay out to claiming citizens. and yes the SS dep does get a huge budget ("bag of money") to set themselves up at start of the year ready to then distribute later
the SS dep has to get the money first and its based on (cant believe im repeating this) how many people are at or above retirement age even if they have or have not filed a claim. which means the active SSN's even above 130yr old becomes a measure of budget needed
ive had to repeat it many times including having to remind you what direction time flows
the SS DEPARTMENT cant pay a retired citizen fresh claim mid year before the SS department gets the money in the SS DEPARTMENTS OWN BUDGET first
so the appropriations part is the SS departments budget at year start.... not the citizen recipient payment months afterwards
(common sense must hit you atleast, even if you dodge physics)
the mandatory spend is not some designation specific to SS dep saying the SS has to pay all eligible claimants(because SS actually does throw people off of benefits alot, yep people taken off disability and told they are fit for work.. yep people are not guaranteed payments forever)
mandatory spend is a category fed sets for departments where the department cant have any funds left over from the fiscal years appropriations
EG if there was money left over it would be classed as profit. so the department has to get it down to a zero balance at the end of the year to avoid anyone looking too close
just look at the many gov departments that do certain things near end of fiscal year..
EG for instance transport departments suddenly deal with road maintenance near year-end to a large degree of workmen not seen the previous months
EG you see latest range of car fleets near fiscal year end...
EG if really greedy, you see they reassess disabled people as fit for work to get an excess(suggesting they need to cut budget mid year as reason) but then near year end they are on spending spree of new office stuff and company cars
(dont worry US is not alone in this game)
(you soon spot which departments have a mandatory spend based on how suddenly they go on a spending spree near year end)
if the SS department had money left over it would show as if they didnt do their job right in budget calculations or spending arrangements by possibly not paying out pensions correctly or overstating the budget need at the start. which would effect the next years budget and drag in the inspectors to audit them, but if they zero out their account it looks like a well designed budget so no one looks twice. and thats how they gamed the system for years
so they department would spend it all. even if there were not enough real life human claimants to take the money
but also yes there is usually enough scam artists and identity thieves to take the money so that getting to zero by year end is not a hard task, its why they dont look too hard at thieves and scams. just look into how the many scams of the covid stimulus cheques were not looked deeply into.
because once the SS dep gets the funds (bag of money) they think its their entitlement and not something they need to pay back any excess back to the fed at the end of the year, they dont try to actually economise their internal budget to get an excess. they instead see there is money at the end of the year left and spend it by upgrading the office or fleet(if ID thieves havnt made false claims to spend it)
can you atleast try for once to actually hesitate from just striking the reply button to sound like an idiot and atleast try to learn a few words and learn the processes of a topic you want to involve yourself with
i gave you a chance already. i even spelled it out for you.. but no you just read the post hit the reply and made yourself sound even more silly
next time atleast try to learn a thing or two before replying
and yes there are identity thieves that used old SSN's of people who should have had their SSN aged out in death along time ago so its not all internal fraud, but also explains why SS department didnt just delete the SSN of colonial aged people of 130-300yr old
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either way. the amount of fraud and wastage is not something to brush under the rug
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its funny how im actually giving you the words and terminology, yet you are just acting silly and ignorant. jsut repeating what you read on some dem loving website
you have not done any research or found the terminology. so it makes you look silly even more
but hey brush it under the rug.. act like more than $70b(your number, but emphasis on the 'more than') is nothing for people to care about and should just forget and not look twice at..
but i know already your ignorant tricks because i've seen your fellow dems do it already, you are like a scripted puppet, your next debate as seen by others acting as silly as you on the topic of SS waste/fraud. you dem script reciting crew cry blue murder after this topic that elon got a couple billion from carbon tax and a few billion from providing actual cars fleets to let state/national gov employee's drive around in a 'company car'. and you want everyone to look at it deeply and think that a few billion is MASSIVE
go on, admit it
you want to brush $70b + under the rug 'coz dems get it'
you want to scream loudly of smaller amount 'coz elon received it'
