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March 13, 2025, 12:11:54 PM
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First, I want to say this isn't an apology for what I did. (It's not going to change anything.)

Yes SmokerFace and CryptoGonnie are my alts, and I did manage 1xBit campaign. (They offered me a lot more if I had worked their campaign through my main account but given the situation, I didn'., I know other managers who did too, I won't name them even if you me, I can say those managers were highly reputable, even reputable than me (Their marketing manager disclosed a lot to me, This is all I can say and whoever that person is I will not name them/They could've given me wrong info too who knows (chances are slim of that happening))

Regarding posting from the Smokerface account, I paid for that.
Someone I knew off-forum gave me these accounts. I didn't own any of those or pay for them (Those were Freebies from someone who worked with me in the past)

I don't want to pretend anymore, disregarding I get 2nd chance (I will disregard nutildah's 2nd chance she revealed that) - I was restricted by her 2nd chance propolsa - I'd say it was a leash to not be my true self (That's what I believe, could be wrong idk)

I've a new Alias on the forum 'Phantom Cobra'. It's on IPBan. (I've sent an email to LoyceV for being whitelisted; let's see if it happens) - Anyone can tag that account if that's what you want (But that one will be my main account from now on) - I've sent an email to account recovery team with my signed address for worldofcoins (Waiting if it's going to be feasible for them to).

With this off my chest, I will let the community decide if I can start over on the forum. (If there's any member who had a vendetta against me speak now)

- I will not repeat the past or the story in detail here.
The only thing I will apologise for is managing campaign for 1xBit, not hiring a poster to post form my account in smokerface (There were no rules of deleting, and reposting them, I know it was wrong, and I was focused on $$$ at the time and quantity ^quality and quick buck (Things have change believe or not)
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March 13, 2025, 12:52:48 PM
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Below are 7 posts where you repeatedly lie and deny the fact that SmokerFace is your alt, going as far as making up stories and theories about a "p2p trade" to try and absolve yourself of the accusation (despite blockchain proof being unarguable). This doesn't include your threads about being "scammed on telegram" which you had removed due to that being suspicious (very likely faked) as well.

Now you are claiming that someone "gave you" the SmokerFace accounts (convenient that they gave them to you as buying them is against the rules). I think instead of making up new stories, you should stick with an apology, and take a break. You seem to be young and immature to me - you do not seem to understand the severity of lying, or understand that it is not something that is easily forgiven. I would take a long break from this forum, aim to be honest rather than the way you are currently behaving, and come back when you are a bit more mature and wise. If you are not young, you clearly have some problems to figure out. Either way, for now it does not seem that this forum is good for you and I think it can be safely said that you are currently not good for the forum.

I'm trying to offer you the opportunity to give some reasonable explanations (such as, what the transaction between SmokerFace and yourself was), however so far you are passing up that opportunity with quite irrelevant jibber jabber in my opinion.

I don't remember exactly what this transaction was for, but I've traded altcoins with the person and even took loans. (Smokerface isn't the only person I've traded with like I said).
If you specifically want me to tell which altcoins?, then I don't know which it was - If someone had questioned me this when they were tagging Smokerface, and this blockchain question was raised, then I would've answered it, but now, it's not feasible.

No.
Blockchain evidence doesn't prove me being Smokerface

You've admitted to having ownership of bc1qcvdfnn0c06dewqtexjlev9z4nspwku5kat4wd9


I don't remember how I traded it, but most likely, yes not (bc1qjrjvr3a20rhf7vqdr2rvcexx28j3d8e7plyje9) | This one I own: bc1qcvdfnn0c06dewqtexjlev9z4nspwku5kat4wd9) (The one smokerface sent to). (Look at the justification below to clear your mind, too)

This is how I see it going through:
bc1qjrjvr3a20rhf7vqdr2rvcexx28j3d8e7plyje9 (Smokerface) -> bc1qcvdfnn0c06dewqtexjlev9z4nspwku5kat4wd9 (My wallet) -> 3EUhPUmdDcck8MeGSoBoPzRVSjDAZVdh68 (My exchange, service, p2p)



[3] Sure, np. Let me clear up the possible but not absolute blockchain connection for you, too.

Yes, that last address, either belongs to my exchange, p2p trader, or gambling website (I don't have access to that wallet info anymore, given the amount of time elapsed)

This is how, I trade off-forum:
I've exchanged multiple times and gambled money in different casinos depending on the speed of the network (Now I mostly prefer BNB trades and loans, and yes, I take loans off-forum, even now).
So yes, there is quick transaction time between trades when trades occur through DM, within seconds to minutes.
People are active; you don't have to wait hours like on the forum for someone to read your post, look at your profile, and then provide a loan or trade; it's very quick. BTC isn't the only currency I trade with, and SF isn't the only person I've traded with.

"bc1qcvdfnn0c06dewqtexjlev9z4nspwku5kat4wd9", and "bc1qc240qa82qergkzzwpasg8ehp0clzt6gkzznwhc" (Also belong to me most likely).
The later address "3EUhPUmdDcck8MeGSoBoPzRVSjDAZVdh68" (I don't know of which site is, but it most likely belong to account, or someone other than SF I traded with or had a deal with, I deal with a lot of people so I don't know who that might be, I could've provided logs if the person if from a p2p exchange, or a trade through dm but it would consume unnecessary time, and cannot guarantee I will find that person).

The transactions made to "3EUhPUmdDcck8MeGSoBoPzRVSjDAZVdh68", from both addresses above, are through unconfirmed inputs from  addresses of same wallet (most likely) (I could've preferred to wait, and send them separately) or I could've given sf that direct address "3EUhPUmdDcck8MeGSoBoPzRVSjDAZVdh68" to send the funds to, but I wanted to do it through my address (considering there, if any verification takes place, for the trade I did with 'h68' address, I can cite my owned address which send funds to it, I do it mostly with everyone, I trade occasionally.



Even smokerface mentioned it, they sent to the address. But they never claimed it to sent to "3CX2reYLXJh1hACiA1i6qq9WFCSEUc7Ax5" | They explicitly mentioned whoever owns the address they sent the funds to, person owning that address have sent to "3CX2reYLXJh1hACiA1i6qq9WFCSEUc7Ax5" (I didn't wanted my name mentioned at time, smokerface understood), but anyway it has come to light then this explanation should clear everything.

Do you mean I sent to address "bc1q5x7zssejfd5nl74gtgd3f92u2wc4pjtues8yng" and whatever company or whoever owns that address sent it to "3CX2reYLXJh1hACiA1i6qq9WFCSEUc7Ax5" where Worldofcoins sent their bitcoins in past Thus i own the address "3CX2reYLXJh1hACiA1i6qq9WFCSEUc7Ax5".

Tigerfirst tried to cause confusion with this post, Royse somehow believes whatever this person says, they even gave merit to one of their posts.

[2] SmokerFace claimed to use an exchange wallet where he sent his BTC and worldofcoins may use the same exchange, but he forgot that what he said four years ago, now worldofcoins said he traded with SmokerFace. Lie proved!

Smokerface nowhere claimed they sent to the exchange address "3CX2reYLXJh1hACiA1i6qq9WFCSEUc7Ax5"  (They didn't even mention it was the exchange address, even if they had then i might have told them, but most likely didn't tell them about what I am going to do with our traded bitcoins)



If I am intentionally not being targeted, everything should be clear now, and people who gave me Negative for my Smokerface being my alt should revert their feedback.

Can we not consider "probable certainty" but use feedback on 100% certainty in blockchain cases?

I have personally sent PM Direwolf requesting them to revisit their feedback on my profile, and the same is the request from Nutildah (from them, it's public); I don't know if Don or Learn Bitcoin is doing it or not, so I won't bother asking them if they do then good, otherwise no need, I will wait for 3 days.

Are you threatening people who have left negative feedback on your profile?

No.
Blockchain evidence doesn't prove me being Smokerface, nutildah mentioned username similarities, I've explained it too!, there are no similarities in usernames. (But some Mammals have it, what other reasons do you need to tag them, considering you're ok with that reason to tag, even though my username similarities are nill compared to them).
People who group and abuse their DT status need at least a mention in their profile. I know people who look for legitimate feedback, disregarding it's given from a DT member, or not.

So you have no chat logs, no PMs, no public posts or threads that you can go back and look at for reference? Usually when two completely separate individuals trade with each other, then communication is involved? Plus, don't you think it's quite a convenient time to just forget about the details of this trade? The most important question for yourself is, if you were on trial right now, do you think what you have answered would imply guilt, or innocence?

Why would I be on trial for someone who did whatever they did and just happened to have a few chats and trades?

As far as trial goes: The judge would have access to my bank accounts, not just for one single trade. (If I had 2 bank accounts, then surely they can be linked), Did smokerface sent all their earnings to me or just one?, If it's latter then I don't know would you hang someone for a couple of or just one trade.

Turning my arguments in troll statements is a good to way to divert attention.

Insisting on referring to me using plural pronouns and making up phrases in attempt to insult me aren't arguments.  It's trolling.  If you don't know the difference between arguing and attempting to insult some one you're ignorance goes beyond just being illiterate.

No, I was not trolling you. I am liable for what I say, not what you understand. Can you quote it?

Also, You gave me "Bounty Cheater" feedback. Would you please explain which bounty I cheated on? - Talking about literacy here, I might not be as literate as you, but what cheated bounty are we talking about here?, I am sure literate person would understand the meaning of "Bounty"?

Edit: Did you take me for Small Rabbit's alt?

I'm trying to offer you the opportunity to give some reasonable explanations (such as, what the transaction between SmokerFace and yourself was), however so far you are passing up that opportunity with quite irrelevant jibber jabber in my opinion.

I don't remember exactly what this transaction was for, but I've traded altcoins with the person and even took loans. (Smokerface isn't the only person I've traded with like I said).
If you specifically want me to tell which altcoins?, then I don't know which it was - If someone had questioned me this when they were tagging Smokerface, and this blockchain question was raised, then I would've answered it, but now, it's not feasible.

So you have no chat logs, no PMs, no public posts or threads that you can go back and look at for reference? Usually when two completely separate individuals trade with each other, then communication is involved? Plus, don't you think it's quite a convenient time to just forget about the details of this trade? The most important question for yourself is, if you were on trial right now, do you think what you have answered would imply guilt, or innocence?

I don't keep history for occasional traders, but I might still have access to the address he sent the funds. (I will have to check), I don't want to reveal much about how I operate my trades, but I am afraid there's no data left of this user, to give (If you or someone else asked me this before, Then I might have had for sure given it) - But why didn't anyone ask me back then?

No, the guy deleted his account. So, I had to close the chat.

Here's what I think are the facts:
- The single blockchain transaction is a transaction that undeniably linked the SmokerFace/worldofcoins accounts together.
- worldofcoins gave no information to explain how the link is not the same person (PMs, chat logs, public posts/topics, and so on).
- Both accounts have been caught cheating signature campaigns by post recycling.
- Both accounts have been paid by 1xbit (a scam casino).
- The linking transaction happened right after both accounts were paid by the 1xbit signature campaign.
- The linking transaction shows that SmokerFace sent to worldofcoins, then worldofcoins sent to worldofcoins' exchange/gambling platform/etc all in the same Bitcoin block.

1- He sent me funds, I used (What's the link here)?
2- I gave the reason for it, too; if I had asked when the connection between me and Smokerface was made, I most likely would've said, you don't store logs or trades for years.
3- No
4- For review, yes; campaign, no.
5- Yes, the chat also happened during that time.
6- You don't have to repeat the 1st and 5th points and make a combined 6th.


Thread quote (as you have a habit of removing original posts):
First, I want to say this isn't an apology for what I did. (It's not going to change anything.)

Yes SmokerFace and CryptoGonnie are my alts, and I did manage 1xBit campaign. (They offered me a lot more if I had worked their campaign through my main account but given the situation, I didn'., I know other managers who did too, I won't name them even if you me, I can say those managers were highly reputable, even reputable than me (Their marketing manager disclosed a lot to me, This is all I can say and whoever that person is I will not name them/They could've given me wrong info too who knows (chances are slim of that happening))

Regarding posting from the Smokerface account, I paid for that.
Someone I knew off-forum gave me these accounts. I didn't own any of those or pay for them (Those were Freebies from someone who worked with me in the past)

I don't want to pretend anymore, disregarding I get 2nd chance (I will disregard nutildah's 2nd chance she revealed that) - I was restricted by her 2nd chance propolsa - I'd say it was a leash to not be my true self (That's what I believe, could be wrong idk)

I've a new Alias on the forum 'Phantom Cobra'. It's on IPBan. (I've sent an email to LoyceV for being whitelisted; let's see if it happens) - Anyone can tag that account if that's what you want (But that one will be my main account from now on) - I've sent an email to account recovery team with my signed address for worldofcoins (Waiting if it's going to be feasible for them to).

With this off my chest, I will let the community decide if I can start over on the forum. (If there's any member who had a vendetta against me speak now)

- I will not repeat the past or the story in detail here.
The only thing I will apologise for is managing campaign for 1xBit, not hiring a poster to post form my account in smokerface (There were no rules of deleting, and reposting them, I know it was wrong, and I was focused on $$$ at the time and quantity ^quality and quick buck (Things have change believe or not)
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March 13, 2025, 01:04:54 PM
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Reserved for why you should not be allowed back on the forum.
Also, lol.

I don't know what's the point of reserving this post, but thanks anyways to quoting the post on first reply.

I have a question. - Do you get paid for quoting OP, too by your sig manager? Other than targeting businesses, and posting nonsense, kid?
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March 13, 2025, 01:11:03 PM
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Reserved for why you should not be allowed back on the forum.
Also, lol.

I don't know what's the point of reserving this post, but thanks anyways to quoting the post on first reply.

I have a question. - Do you get paid for quoting OP, too by your sig manager? Other than targeting businesses, and posting nonsense, kid?

You can see the point in reserving the post now that I have finished writing it.

Usually when someone reserves a post, it is because they would like the first say and would like time to write their message. I did so in about 10 minutes. I think you should also learn patience, on top of how to be honest.

Reserved for why you should not be allowed back on the forum.
Also, lol.
I have a question. - Do you get paid for quoting OP, too by your sig manager? Other than targeting businesses, and posting nonsense, kid?

I think it's quite safe to say that I am not the kid in this conversation. Deflection is a childish trait, as is impatience, as is lying. Though if you want me to answer those 2 questions:
1. Yes, once the post is complete (signature campaign rules is 150 characters per post to qualify)
2. I don't target businesses randomly, I highlight shady practices when I see them. bc.game is a shady practice, as are most casinos on this forum. I have bountiful amount of research to support this (against bc.game and many other casinos) and as mentioned before, it will all be posted at the right time. Unfortunately it is not as easy to expose them as it was confirming your other accounts because the difference between you and these casinos, is that the casinos don't leave hard blockchain proof of wrong doing lying around like you had, which makes it much harder to expose them. I do wish they were closer to your level of intellect, as if they were, they'd have been exposed indisputably hundred of times over by now.
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March 13, 2025, 03:04:33 PM
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You can see the point in reserving the post now that I have finished writing it.

Usually when someone reserves a post, it is because they would like the first say and would like time to write their message. I did so in about 10 minutes. I think you should also learn patience, on top of how to be honest.

... You were waiting for me reply before you edit that post?, You could've kept a draft or edit page open, the way you closed that post it didn't seem you're going to edit that.

I think it's quite safe to say that I am not the kid in this conversation. Deflection is a childish trait, as is impatience, as is lying. Though if you want me to answer those 2 questions:
1. Yes, once the post is complete (signature campaign rules is 150 characters per post to qualify)
2. I don't target businesses randomly, I highlight shady practices when I see them. bc.game is a shady practice, as are most casinos on this forum. I have bountiful amount of research to support this (against bc.game and many other casinos) and as mentioned before, it will all be posted at the right time. Unfortunately it is not as easy to expose them as it was confirming your other accounts because the difference between you and these casinos, is that the casinos don't leave hard blockchain proof of wrong doing lying around like you had, which makes it much harder to expose them. I do wish they were closer to your level of intellect, as if they were, they'd have been exposed indisputably hundred of times over by now.

1. ...
2. That's exactly what i meant, it was not random but specifically targeted, people who replied to you on the other made it clear what you wanted to achieve.
There are other gambling sites, popular ones that have blockchain data against them, a famous one, too (Want me to tell you so you have more content to post?)

Did i pull a heist? to have thought 'How to hide the connections' if it was a big amount then there are guides they can look upto (There are many methods in achieving this).

What I made obvious you posted in other thread, lol.
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March 13, 2025, 04:22:43 PM
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I've a new Alias on the forum 'Phantom Cobra'. It's on IPBan. (I've sent an email to LoyceV for being whitelisted; let's see if it happens)
That's not happening. As theymos said:
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the vast majority of accounts that hit it should not be whitelisted.

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I've a new Alias on the forum 'Phantom Cobra'. It's on IPBan. (I've sent an email to LoyceV for being whitelisted; let's see if it happens) - Anyone can tag that account if that's what you want (But that one will be my main account from now on) - I've sent an email to account recovery team with my signed address for worldofcoins (Waiting if it's going to be feasible for them to).
Why not just continue posting from the current account you are using?

Also, you made the request to have ownership of your account changed several weeks ago, according to that post in Meta. Usually the team gets back to you with in a week to start with the account recovery process. If they haven't done it after all that time, then I think it's time to let it go.

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I've a new Alias on the forum 'Phantom Cobra'. It's on IPBan. (I've sent an email to LoyceV for being whitelisted; let's see if it happens) - Anyone can tag that account if that's what you want (But that one will be my main account from now on) - I've sent an email to account recovery team with my signed address for worldofcoins (Waiting if it's going to be feasible for them to).
Why not just continue posting from the current account you are using?

Also, you made the request to have ownership of your account changed several weeks ago, according to that post in Meta. Usually the team gets back to you with in a week to start with the account recovery process. If they haven't done it after all that time, then I think it's time to let it go.

The name, I like the name 'Phantom Cobra', I'd wait to start over, from that account, atm i don't have sufficient funds in my wallet, to initiate the transaction for removing IPBan.

Re. account recovery: Yup, that was my mistake, I don't expect that account back, even If I get that back what's the point, I won't be using that, so yea it's a better option to let it go.

I've a new Alias on the forum 'Phantom Cobra'. It's on IPBan. (I've sent an email to LoyceV for being whitelisted; let's see if it happens)
That's not happening. As theymos said:
~these IPs have evil for a reason.
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the vast majority of accounts that hit it should not be whitelisted.

That's understandable  Smiley
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The name, I like the name 'Phantom Cobra', I'd wait to start over, from that account, atm i don't have sufficient funds in my wallet, to initiate the transaction for removing IPBan.

That would be throwing good coin after bad - Phantom Cobra will certainly have negative reputation after it's first post.

It's best you create a new account and tell no body of your old account.   Your reputation looks like it is permanently destroyed for deception.  This isn't the same as someone unknowingly breaking a rule.   You knowingly and repeatedly broke many forum rules and you are only coming clean because you got caught.   I don't mean that as a blind insult, but based on your history of honesty.    In my experience with felons (in law enforcement, not with OgNasty) people who habitually lie only come clean to regain trust.  You want to maintain your positive reputation while ignoring your negative.

You consider yourself a smart person.   A smart person would have taken notes about how he got caught to make sure it won't happen again.  Your next scam attempt will be bolder and there is no reason anyone should lend credence to it.

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I'm not against you or against anyone but whatever you did wasn't morally right. You willingly promoted a scam casino to get money from them but that's not morally correct.

Such scams should not be promoted once someone knows about them even if they pay managers $1000 per week or members $200 per week.

I will say again that I have no personal hatred or anything for you but as member of the forum I don't think something like that is forgivable at all.

 
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Yes SmokerFace and CryptoGonnie are my alts, and I did manage 1xBit campaign.

I can't find any user profile CryptoGonnie is this on another platform?

This is on SmokerFace [BPIP] trust feedback page:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust;u=880473;dt

Lone Shark    2018-08-15    Reference    Previously had a loan with me but never paid.

Was this ever cleared up?

Are


all of your alts? Or, are there more?

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https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=3683584;dt

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Name:    Phantom Cobra
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Date Registered:    2025-01-23, 05:03:48
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March 14, 2025, 12:16:14 AM
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Was this ever cleared up?

When I took possession of that account, no loans were taken -By me.
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March 14, 2025, 12:43:33 AM
Last edit: March 14, 2025, 12:55:37 AM by Timelord2067
 #13

And CryptoGonnie?

Was that a spelling mistake?


Never mind - found them

  • CryptoGoonie [BPIP]
  • Cryptogooniealt [BPIP]

Known Alts of any-one - A User Generated List Mk IV
[Guide] Broadcast Your RAW Transaction
[List] Vanity Wallet Generation. Threads, how-to & links
[Cryptopia] ONLINE ARTICLES related to hack & theft of funds
[Rugby] Union / League
NetHack 3.6.7
Hearse V 1.0.6e
PokerTH / [Text]
@X-Twitter Retweet ≠ endorsement
£ $ ₹ € ¥ ¢ ≠ ÷ BTC
★☆★ Signature For Rent Paused ★☆★
.★☆★ UNPAID ADVERTISEMENTS: ★☆★ Get Paid in BitCoin .
. ★☆★ Fitness Discussions Pushups and Step Exercise.
. TALK[img] Talk with Images™ .
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March 14, 2025, 12:52:39 AM
Last edit: March 14, 2025, 06:51:20 AM by worldofcoinsaltacc2
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Was that a spelling mistake?

Yes, CryptoGoonie
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