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April 16, 2025, 02:45:17 PM
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It seems to me that not all newbies have the wrong idea about gambling. If 30-40 years ago it was difficult to get information about gambling and the chances of winning, then today when almost every beginner has access to the Internet and to language models can do it in minutes. Yes, someone is very much mistaken in calculating their chances of a big win, but someone does not even think about it and plays gambling for fun. Therefore, I would not equal all newcomers at this time.

When I read your post I remembered that earlier when I made a bet I couldn't see the score online, and I needed some time to find out the score of the match, I didn't have access to the Internet (except maybe I could be in the bookmaker's office). Now there are no problems with this, there are applications, or you can even simply look at the score or even the broadcast online, everything is available. Only one thing does not change, you can't rely only on luck in gambling, you need to choose bets correctly in order to win.

With today's technology at hand, a beginner is very different from the beginners of the time. That is why I believe that today's gamblers are more advanced in analytics.

If we talk about luck, it has not changed in any way over time. But we have more tools to minimize the impact of luck on the result. However, to do this you need to develop a systematic approach and remain disciplined in any situation. Unfortunately, many people do not practice this in their experience.
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April 16, 2025, 11:44:53 PM
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This is the thought that all of us have got.
If we're unlucky for today, we want to get back sometime again to the casino where we gamble or to another one that we don't.
In belief that we might be lucky doing another try and that's the response we do if ever we're dealing with a bad day.
If we can remember that, we will not chasing the win and save our money. But most people will not do that because their passion to continue gamble will be there so they keep playing and spend more money.

They don't realize that if they are aggressively playing gambling can make their emotion increase. If that is happen, they will lose control over themselves and instead winning the games, they lose their money without realize.
That is part of gambling that our emotion increases and that's the reason why they should take care of themselves.
When they let it go into them, that unlucky day is going to bring them more desire to gamble.
And in result of it, we know how it will end for the most of them.


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April 17, 2025, 12:33:39 AM
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Sometimes I think luck is a place of mental peace because when we lose most of the time we blame luck similarly if we win, it is because of luck (in most time betting /gambling). In fact  what should your own feeling be? This question may seem to most of us gamblers that if an experienced gambler loses the same way, then how is it possible to identify the main algorithm of gambling?

I think the answer to this question may be easy or it may be very difficult, but the secret between us continuing to gamble and winning or losing is a manifestation of the latent state between the developer and gamblers like us, winning or losing.

In a completely normal state, it would be to simply accept that there are things we cannot control and luck is one of it.
Simply put, anyone who thinks they can win all their sports bets or win a lot of money at the casino is a perfectionist and has big problems with reality.
Sports prediction experts always count on the fact that luck is in their favor and they will make a profit even if luck is 50/50 because with their knowledge they tip the scales in their favor.
This is a idea that I can get from your example that our experience makes the odds a little heavier for winning. I think anyone would believe that experienced gamblers win more bets and their betting strategies would seem ridiculous to beginners. They use their wisdom to test and draw their results from deep concentration.

We cannot control luck but we can make efforts to create luck. If I am competing in a game I should have a realistic idea of ​​the players on the opposing team because it is more important to have a counter-strategy to match their strategy to win.

Experience can prepare you in such a way that you find it easier to decide on a strategy based on your previous experience with them.

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April 17, 2025, 09:04:11 AM
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It seems to me that not all newbies have the wrong idea about gambling. If 30-40 years ago it was difficult to get information about gambling and the chances of winning, then today when almost every beginner has access to the Internet and to language models can do it in minutes. Yes, someone is very much mistaken in calculating their chances of a big win, but someone does not even think about it and plays gambling for fun. Therefore, I would not equal all newcomers at this time.

Not all beginners have misconceptions about gambling.
Some people play for fun, without thinking about winnings, and that, in my opinion, is the correct behavior.
You can't have strategy in games that require luck. Maybe strategy plays a little bit when you play poker or games where you can count cards and understand the odds, but luck works there too.

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April 17, 2025, 09:17:40 AM
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It seems to me that not all newbies have the wrong idea about gambling. If 30-40 years ago it was difficult to get information about gambling and the chances of winning, then today when almost every beginner has access to the Internet and to language models can do it in minutes. Yes, someone is very much mistaken in calculating their chances of a big win, but someone does not even think about it and plays gambling for fun. Therefore, I would not equal all newcomers at this time.

Not all beginners have misconceptions about gambling.
Some people play for fun, without thinking about winnings, and that, in my opinion, is the correct behavior.
You can't have strategy in games that require luck. Maybe strategy plays a little bit when you play poker or games where you can count cards and understand the odds, but luck works there too.
It's good if a beginner start gambling for fun, but this is rare because most people go into gambling for the sake of making profits. Luck is the major key in order for you to win your bet be it skilled based game or casino games. No matter how skillful you are, you will still lose your bet.

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April 17, 2025, 10:00:21 AM
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It seems to me that not all newbies have the wrong idea about gambling. If 30-40 years ago it was difficult to get information about gambling and the chances of winning, then today when almost every beginner has access to the Internet and to language models can do it in minutes. Yes, someone is very much mistaken in calculating their chances of a big win, but someone does not even think about it and plays gambling for fun. Therefore, I would not equal all newcomers at this time.

Not all beginners have misconceptions about gambling.
Some people play for fun, without thinking about winnings, and that, in my opinion, is the correct behavior.
You can't have strategy in games that require luck. Maybe strategy plays a little bit when you play poker or games where you can count cards and understand the odds, but luck works there too.
It's good if a beginner start gambling for fun, but this is rare because most people go into gambling for the sake of making profits. Luck is the major key in order for you to win your bet be it skilled based game or casino games. No matter how skillful you are, you will still lose your bet.
All players simply want to try their own luck, and not stand aside and think that others are winning and bragging about it. Although a player can understand the entire structure of a casino, how it earns and how cash flows. But this still does not stop anyone, because luck cannot be predicted until you experience it yourself, which is why many go to play. Well, I want to say that if a player has decided to play, then at least he will learn to influence things that can be influenced, for example, the size of the bet, the time of the game, control of his emotions and money.

 
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April 17, 2025, 10:55:22 AM
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That is part of gambling that our emotion increases and that's the reason why they should take care of themselves.
When they let it go into them, that unlucky day is going to bring them more desire to gamble.
And in result of it, we know how it will end for the most of them.
That is also make us return to casino when we lose the money or deposit more money. If our emotion increases, we will forget everything and there will be a wanting to recover our money. Even if the result will be the same, that will not make us realize that we are making a mistake.

They will only lose more and more money without having a chance to get their money back. That is why we must know that winning in gambling need to have luck which will not come every time we gamble.

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April 17, 2025, 11:28:44 AM
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Well, I want to say that if a player has decided to play, then at least he will learn to influence things that can be influenced, for example, the size of the bet, the time of the game, control of his emotions and money.

And probably the worst quality for a gambler or a betting lover is stubbornness. Even if such a person loses constantly, his desire to win will be stronger and stronger. And when he wins, he will experience such a strong and pleasant feeling that he will certainly think "finally I have become lucky" and with new strength will play and play gambling.
I know many guys and girls with such characters, and those few of them who play gambling really do not like to give up. But here the question arises: is it possible to defeat an opponent like a casino? After all, if luck is fickle, then mathematics is completely on the side of the casino.

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April 17, 2025, 11:30:29 AM
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It seems to me that not all newbies have the wrong idea about gambling. If 30-40 years ago it was difficult to get information about gambling and the chances of winning, then today when almost every beginner has access to the Internet and to language models can do it in minutes. Yes, someone is very much mistaken in calculating their chances of a big win, but someone does not even think about it and plays gambling for fun. Therefore, I would not equal all newcomers at this time.

Not all beginners have misconceptions about gambling.
Some people play for fun, without thinking about winnings, and that, in my opinion, is the correct behavior.
You can't have strategy in games that require luck. Maybe strategy plays a little bit when you play poker or games where you can count cards and understand the odds, but luck works there too.

Yeah, that's correct. In poker games and sports betting, we certainly need that strategy, or else we are walking out with empty pockets. But when it comes to slots and casino games, you might as well just enjoy them.

Well, some beginners seem to have the purpose of making more money, and I think it's just normal for them to have that kind of perspective, and it's also because of the streamers who are showing high multiplier wins. But still, they need to be informed correctly that it doesn't mean everyone can achieve what they did in the short run. Most of it can only be received after losing a lot of money.

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April 17, 2025, 11:43:47 AM
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I do not relate luck to gambling because it is so much evident that the games and odds in gambling (but odds betting) are programmed in a way that gamblers will eventually lose. Gamble more and lose is the reality. Win and do not gamble for that time wise decision. Also with the little amount of money I am using to gamble, it is like that because there is nothing like luck to me in gambling. Most people will lose while 1 out of thousands of people would win which are the lucky ones. I am not saying there is no lock in gambling but understand what I mean.

Everything was programmed for the gamblers to lose that's the more reason why for a gambler to win is always based on luck. Winning is not as easy as people think it is,  luck is real in gambling and it's not something that can be chased. Imagine winning a thousand dollars with just a dollar what would you call that, you can't say you won because of your analysis, these type of wins rarely happen but once In a while people win like this, luck exists.

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April 17, 2025, 11:44:31 AM
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It seems to me that not all newbies have the wrong idea about gambling. If 30-40 years ago it was difficult to get information about gambling and the chances of winning, then today when almost every beginner has access to the Internet and to language models can do it in minutes. Yes, someone is very much mistaken in calculating their chances of a big win, but someone does not even think about it and plays gambling for fun. Therefore, I would not equal all newcomers at this time.

Not all beginners have misconceptions about gambling.
Some people play for fun, without thinking about winnings, and that, in my opinion, is the correct behavior.
You can't have strategy in games that require luck. Maybe strategy plays a little bit when you play poker or games where you can count cards and understand the odds, but luck works there too.
It's good if a beginner start gambling for fun, but this is rare because most people go into gambling for the sake of making profits. Luck is the major key in order for you to win your bet be it skilled based game or casino games. No matter how skillful you are, you will still lose your bet.

I doubt if there's any newbie that started gambling just for fun, I might be wrong tho but if there were really new gamblers that started gambling for fun, it's just very few. If there are also many gamblers that are gambling for fun today, they started with the thought of making profit but after they realize that gambling is only based on luck, I believe that's what changed their thoughts.

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April 17, 2025, 02:24:59 PM
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Sometimes I think luck is a place of mental peace because when we lose most of the time we blame luck similarly if we win, it is because of luck (in most time betting /gambling). In fact  what should your own feeling be? This question may seem to most of us gamblers that if an experienced gambler loses the same way, then how is it possible to identify the main algorithm of gambling?

I think the answer to this question may be easy or it may be very difficult, but the secret between us continuing to gamble and winning or losing is a manifestation of the latent state between the developer and gamblers like us, winning or losing.

I think luck has as a way of changing the rhythm of something like it's a game changer and mostly depending your mind solely on lucks usually results in unexpected returns which can either be a win or a loss. In gambling luck plays a vital role by enabling gamblers  ascertain some level of winning which make them depend on luck whenever they gamble. Therefore winning and loosing cannot be eliminated from gambling but as a gambler knowing how to go about your gambling activities matters in every way.

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April 17, 2025, 02:38:44 PM
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It seems to me that not all newbies have the wrong idea about gambling. If 30-40 years ago it was difficult to get information about gambling and the chances of winning, then today when almost every beginner has access to the Internet and to language models can do it in minutes. Yes, someone is very much mistaken in calculating their chances of a big win, but someone does not even think about it and plays gambling for fun. Therefore, I would not equal all newcomers at this time.

When I read your post I remembered that earlier when I made a bet I couldn't see the score online, and I needed some time to find out the score of the match, I didn't have access to the Internet (except maybe I could be in the bookmaker's office). Now there are no problems with this, there are applications, or you can even simply look at the score or even the broadcast online, everything is available. Only one thing does not change, you can't rely only on luck in gambling, you need to choose bets correctly in order to win.

With today's technology at hand, a beginner is very different from the beginners of the time. That is why I believe that today's gamblers are more advanced in analytics.

If we talk about luck, it has not changed in any way over time. But we have more tools to minimize the impact of luck on the result. However, to do this you need to develop a systematic approach and remain disciplined in any situation. Unfortunately, many people do not practice this in their experience.
For me, time and technology have indeed changed the gambling industry at large, but they've not changed the way we analyse gambling itself because in the olden days, our scope of gambling was limited to what we could hear and see, and so are our gambling options and preparedness. But this time, our scope of gambling, the features and options to gamble are wider, which makes it even more complicated for people than easy. Though more resources are also present compared to the old times, but look around you, to what good? You hear more painful stories from gamblers.

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It seems to me that not all newbies have the wrong idea about gambling. If 30-40 years ago it was difficult to get information about gambling and the chances of winning, then today when almost every beginner has access to the Internet and to language models can do it in minutes. Yes, someone is very much mistaken in calculating their chances of a big win, but someone does not even think about it and plays gambling for fun. Therefore, I would not equal all newcomers at this time.

Not all beginners have misconceptions about gambling.
Some people play for fun, without thinking about winnings, and that, in my opinion, is the correct behavior.
You can't have strategy in games that require luck. Maybe strategy plays a little bit when you play poker or games where you can count cards and understand the odds, but luck works there too.
It's good if a beginner start gambling for fun, but this is rare because most people go into gambling for the sake of making profits. Luck is the major key in order for you to win your bet be it skilled based game or casino games. No matter how skillful you are, you will still lose your bet.

I doubt if there's any newbie that started gambling just for fun, I might be wrong tho but if there were really new gamblers that started gambling for fun, it's just very few. If there are also many gamblers that are gambling for fun today, they started with the thought of making profit but after they realize that gambling is only based on luck, I believe that's what changed their thoughts.
Gambling is a game based entirely on luck, when a gambler understands this, then he certainly won't see gambling as a means of making money. But there are many gamblers who do not want to believe this. Even if they are shown with evidence that, winning in gambling depends entirely on luck and that there is always a high chance of losing in gambling, but even they still continue to gamble to earn money. They have already lost a huge amount of money but still they cannot quit gambling, Actually, I have no idea that, what kind of thinking makes them do this kind of decision and there are many such gamblers. Therefore, gamblers should try to understand the right thing from the beginning, and should never expect anything extra in gambling. Because they are tempted to win big through small wins, and in this way they move towards deep addiction.

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April 17, 2025, 03:35:47 PM
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Sometimes I think luck is a place of mental peace because when we lose most of the time we blame luck similarly if we win, it is because of luck (in most time betting /gambling). In fact  what should your own feeling be? This question may seem to most of us gamblers that if an experienced gambler loses the same way, then how is it possible to identify the main algorithm of gambling?

I think the answer to this question may be easy or it may be very difficult, but the secret between us continuing to gamble and winning or losing is a manifestation of the latent state between the developer and gamblers like us, winning or losing.

I think luck has as a way of changing the rhythm of something like it's a game changer and mostly depending your mind solely on lucks usually results in unexpected returns which can either be a win or a loss. In gambling luck plays a vital role by enabling gamblers  ascertain some level of winning which make them depend on luck whenever they gamble. Therefore winning and loosing cannot be eliminated from gambling but as a gambler knowing how to go about your gambling activities matters in every way.
Luck is certainly an integral part of gambling unexpected outcomes whether winning or losing often depend on luck. Luck plays a major role in determining how much a gambler wins or loses it is also true that while winning and losing cannot be completely eliminated from gambling it is very important for a gambler to manage his gambling activities wisely. Luck may win someone once or twice but strategy and self control are essential to winning consistently a wise gambler knows when to stop and when to take risks again.

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April 17, 2025, 03:53:33 PM
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Gambling is a game based entirely on luck, when a gambler understands this, then he certainly won't see gambling as a means of making money. But there are many gamblers who do not want to believe this. Even if they are shown with evidence that, winning in gambling depends entirely on luck and that there is always a high chance of losing in gambling, -snip-

There is some gambling is not entirely needing luck. Indeed, luck is an important part, but skill is also important. let say we are playing poker, our luck is when we get good cards on hands, but we also have to have a strategy and skill in this game, of course  i agree with you, even we are confidence, there is a chance to lose. Why do many people want to make gambling a way to get money? because the brain is addicted to big wins and jackpots. Those who can control this desire, may make gambling as entertainment not a job to get money.
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April 17, 2025, 06:11:01 PM
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That is part of gambling that our emotion increases and that's the reason why they should take care of themselves.
When they let it go into them, that unlucky day is going to bring them more desire to gamble.
And in result of it, we know how it will end for the most of them.
That is also make us return to casino when we lose the money or deposit more money. If our emotion increases, we will forget everything and there will be a wanting to recover our money. Even if the result will be the same, that will not make us realize that we are making a mistake.

They will only lose more and more money without having a chance to get their money back. That is why we must know that winning in gambling need to have luck which will not come every time we gamble.
That recovery comes to us whenever we're emotional or even we're on the right term of mind.
We think that recovery is a must and we don't mind what we should do in order for us to get back on feet.
It is the mistake that we have for what we're likely doing and we do realize it only when we've no money left.


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It's good if a beginner start gambling for fun, but this is rare because most people go into gambling for the sake of making profits. Luck is the major key in order for you to win your bet be it skilled based game or casino games. No matter how skillful you are, you will still lose your bet.

Many people see the profit, but they do not understand that profit does not exist or better, let me explain. You cannot plan winnings with betting or the casino, it is a matter of luck. If you do it for fun and sometimes you win, better for you.
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April 18, 2025, 12:16:40 PM
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I do not relate luck to gambling because it is so much evident that the games and odds in gambling (but odds betting) are programmed in a way that gamblers will eventually lose. Gamble more and lose is the reality. Win and do not gamble for that time wise decision. Also with the little amount of money I am using to gamble, it is like that because there is nothing like luck to me in gambling. Most people will lose while 1 out of thousands of people would win which are the lucky ones. I am not saying there is no lock in gambling but understand what I mean.

Everything was programmed for the gamblers to lose that's the more reason why for a gambler to win is always based on luck. Winning is not as easy as people think it is,  luck is real in gambling and it's not something that can be chased. Imagine winning a thousand dollars with just a dollar what would you call that, you can't say you won because of your analysis, these type of wins rarely happen but once In a while people win like this, luck exists.
Perhaps we are in a game of chance, and it is unfortunate that we only have a slim chance to win. Which means that even if we are gambling for 20 decades, that won't be enough for us to be saved from losing. That is why if we gamble, we make sure that we are using extra money, not from loans, so we don't have an obligation to pay them. We can enjoy gambling if there is no pressure in our minds. We could win, but that is when we are lucky. But yes, sometimes it comes too late when our funds are gone.


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April 18, 2025, 12:45:01 PM
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Many people see the profit, but they do not understand that profit does not exist or better, let me explain. You cannot plan winnings with betting or the casino, it is a matter of luck. If you do it for fun and sometimes you win, better for you.
Planning an income, impossible

The thing is that those "profits" are just the winnings, but most gamblers actually end up losing more than what they win.

It's a very common thing to hear stories from gamblers that only tell about their winnings.

They never tell about their losses, and that's a basically how people get excited about gambling.
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