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March 21, 2025, 03:56:11 AM
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I think it is not right for minors to gamble it will put them at greater risk. Age verification is difficult in online casinos but it is easy for casinos that have implemented a KYC verification process. When a player registers or comes to play at a casino the casino may ask for a government issued ID such as a national ID card passport or driving license to verify their identity which will show their date of birth and confirm that they are 18 or older and they can regularly check that no young players are entering who are legally ineligible to play the games.
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March 21, 2025, 07:54:11 AM
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A good casino that really cares about their players will pass a policy that verification should be completed before deposit and withdrawal to make sure underage do not play on your site, as simple as that.
As for withdrawals, that's it. But with deposits, most of them don't really apply and execute any requirements for that. So that players of any age can gamble for as long as they can be but then, they'll meet at the end if ever there is a need to cash out. And with that, they'll know if the player is on the legal age or not. They're a business but I agree that it should be just like what you've said, for one to be known at the right age, KYC should be implemented before they gamble for the protection of the young ones but I don't think it will do.

Yes, for deposits there are not requirement, but there are cases that if a casino suspect something that is not right, then they might require KYC and that's where this minor might be caught or those underage. Maybe in the beginning, they can withdraw, but sooner or later if there is some anomaly that the casinos have detected, like playing style or the IP address itself.

They will ask for a KYC and for sure if a underage is behind, he will have to think or another ways to game the casino but I doubt that the casino might not caught the minor gambler. Casinos are smarter and they will really like to trap those if they see that everything is not good and they could suspect that it is a minor playing.

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March 21, 2025, 08:23:09 AM
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People are saying ID card is the proof to make sure the player is at least 18 years old, without thinking ID card can be edited, faked, or they submit their friends/family card. ID card can't be the valid proof to confirm someone else ages.

The casinos can ask a picture of selfie while holding ID card in front of government institutions and ask for live video while holding ID card, with this way, it's almost impossible for someone to fake themselves. They still have a way, but the cost and effort would be big since they have to fake everything.

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March 21, 2025, 08:32:58 AM
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I’m curious how online casinos ensure that players are actually over 18 years old. How do they verify this information? For gambling sites with a KYC process, they can easily check this detail, but what about casinos for 18 year olds that offer easy registration and withdrawals? How do they make sure players aren’t minors?
The truth is that most casinos don't care about that, it's all about the money, but of course, regulations are on their neck, which makes many of them accountable to an extent. That said, even if some casinos would want to do the lawful thing and strictly ensure that less than 18 years of age will never play with them, they can only do their part and the children do the rest.

Many underage are still playing in online casinos without the fault of the casinos because they falsify their age and even use older people's identity to verify the account.

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I think the age limit of 18 plus works only formally, especially in those casinos where players do not have to show their documents. Will anyone really believe that people under 18 years of age will not visit sites prohibited to them by age? Moreover, this age of underage is always perceived by young people as a "prohibition"; therefore, they must certainly visit such places, since their hormones are working very actively.  It can also be guessed that the age limit works as evidence for regulatory authorities that the casino understands all the dangers of gambling at a young age and does not approve of it.

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Simple KYC.
Desperate gamblers under 18 years old will surely want to gamble by all means so they lie about the age. So, casinos should take KYC compulsory because that is the only way they can control age factor in gambling. On the other hand, casinos do careless about that these few years.
Casinos can only ask of KYC but they cannot see who is at the back of the screen. Teens below 18 do use their parents or relatives documents to bypass the casino restriction of underage in order for them to gamble. Which means that, the KYC thing is only effective for obedient under age teens and not for the ones who finds breaking the rules as fun or is desperate to gamble.

You have made a reasonable points and in that regards it is necessary that an adult that is over 18 have a full responsibility of looking out on the under 18 by having a close watch in their activities although this has been said often time and surely it can not be overly emphasis because it doesn't really make any sense having an under 18 indulging in gambling activities, yeah I completely frown at it and will keep ensuring that I give a close watch and monitor as many under 18 that is around me as regards to this, parents really have a lot of work to do especially on how they keep their documents not to be reached to their children and at the same time be teaching them the negative effects of approaching gambling in an early age.

 
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I think the age limit of 18 plus works only formally, especially in those casinos where players do not have to show their documents. Will anyone really believe that people under 18 years of age will not visit sites prohibited to them by age? Moreover, this age of underage is always perceived by young people as a "prohibition"; therefore, they must certainly visit such places, since their hormones are working very actively.  It can also be guessed that the age limit works as evidence for regulatory authorities that the casino understands all the dangers of gambling at a young age and does not approve of it.

I also think that age limit is a formality. While registering at the casino maybe 1 out of 100 casino will ask to verify documents. Furthermore, a casino will never ask for verification after deposit (I havent heard such cases tbh), but they usually ask for verification during withdrawal. If we speak about underaged, I think they either deposit and lose everything, or withdraw when they in profit. And at this moment, nothing stops them from asking an adult for a help. Without any hesitation, an adult (mom or dad) will pass verification with their own documents.

I think not a single parent resist, if their child comes and say "I need help, I have deposited $10 and won $5. now I need your passport for verification". A parent would even congratulate and approve underaged gambling, because he has earned/won/brought money for himself or family.

 
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I think the age limit of 18 plus works only formally, especially in those casinos where players do not have to show their documents. Will anyone really believe that people under 18 years of age will not visit sites prohibited to them by age? Moreover, this age of underage is always perceived by young people as a "prohibition"; therefore, they must certainly visit such places, since their hormones are working very actively.  It can also be guessed that the age limit works as evidence for regulatory authorities that the casino understands all the dangers of gambling at a young age and does not approve of it.

I also think that age limit is a formality. While registering at the casino maybe 1 out of 100 casino will ask to verify documents. Furthermore, a casino will never ask for verification after deposit (I havent heard such cases tbh), but they usually ask for verification during withdrawal. If we speak about underaged, I think they either deposit and lose everything, or withdraw when they in profit. And at this moment, nothing stops them from asking an adult for a help. Without any hesitation, an adult (mom or dad) will pass verification with their own documents.

I think not a single parent resist, if their child comes and say "I need help, I have deposited $10 and won $5. now I need your passport for verification". A parent would even congratulate and approve underaged gambling, because he has earned/won/brought money for himself or family.
I even think that such young players do not come to their parents, because some of them can scold them for this, because they heard how their neighbors' son lost all his property, for example. Therefore, it is easier for such young players to turn to older friends or brothers, sisters, in addition, there are also relatives, such as a cousin, for example. I am sure that in practice this is how it happens. The funniest thing is that in games and trading platforms that are not related to casinos, such as trading skins in games, there can be items and cases for hundreds of dollars and they never require documents, although there is also a kind of gambling there, when young players open a case with skins, each of which costs a couple of dollars.

 
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March 21, 2025, 09:57:02 AM
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I think it is not right for minors to gamble it will put them at greater risk. Age verification is difficult in online casinos but it is easy for casinos that have implemented a KYC verification process. When a player registers or comes to play at a casino the casino may ask for a government issued ID such as a national ID card passport or driving license to verify their identity which will show their date of birth and confirm that they are 18 or older and they can regularly check that no young players are entering who are legally ineligible to play the games.

It is possible for underage individuals to use their siblings' or even their parents' identity cards to pass Know Your Customer (KYC) verification. However, this approach does not effectively prevent underage gambling.

Online casinos need to upgrade their KYC verification systems to the latest technology, similar to what cryptocurrency exchanges are currently using. This updated system could require users to submit a selfie before asking for their national identity card.

Moreover, the process shouldn't stop there. After submitting the ID card and selfie, users should also hold the ID card in front of the camera and take a live shot to verify their identity..

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March 21, 2025, 11:55:36 AM
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I miss the good old days where you could just deposit and gamble if you wanted to. Now you have to give an ID, then they want a utility bill, then they want you to prove your funds, and i'm surprised they don't need players to provide a bathroom schedule so they can optimize how long they can keep you in front of the screen.

These are the measures that casinos are taking for players to prove everything but how to win.

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March 21, 2025, 12:11:51 PM
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KYC verification has really improved now. Before, you could probably submit someone else’s document and get away with it. But these days, you have to hold the ID and show it live on camera, so it’s much harder to cheat the process, unless you hire someone to do the KYC for you and then use that person’s account to gamble. I think that’s what some people are doing, but honestly, it’s so risky for the person who passed the KYC.

Actually, there are still a lot of ways to by pass that KYC requirement, but all of the are illegal. so its up to you if you are willing to take that risk.
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March 21, 2025, 12:33:36 PM
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How do they make sure players aren’t minors?
I know that With the rise of streamlined and quick registration processes, maintaining proper age verification can be challenging. Many casinos implement additional measures, such as geolocation tracking or random ID checks, to ensure compliance with age restrictions.
Before a registration is been done on a casino, there is usually a pop up display which ask "Are you 18yrs? (Yes or No), and you will have to select either between Yes or No, of which by selecting "Yes", you agree that you are 18yrs old and vice versa, which happens to be one method casino used to check if you are above 18yrs or not. While secondly, another method is by asking for a date of birth during account registration (i.e Day, month & year), whereby with it you can quickly note of is an individual actually 18yrs or not, depending on the date been filled during registration. While the third and most active method casino used to validate if an individual is either of age or under-age is the request of KYC, which usually display a users complete details.

 
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March 21, 2025, 01:12:18 PM
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Actually, there are still a lot of ways to by pass that KYC requirement, but all of the are illegal. so its up to you if you are willing to take that risk.
The possible consequences are even worse as it’s almost like identity theft. Sure, you might be able to hire someone to verify for you, but what if one day they turn against you? It’s still a huge risk.

Honestly, there are plenty of casinos out there that aren’t too strict with KYC, even though they’re regulated. You just have to look around and find the right one, instead of resorting to something illegal. At the end of the day, we should be able to enjoy gambling without worrying that we’ve done something shady or illegal.

 
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March 21, 2025, 01:23:43 PM
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but what about casinos for 18 year olds that offer easy registration and withdrawals? How do they make sure players aren’t minors?
I know that With the rise of streamlined and quick registration processes, maintaining proper age verification can be challenging. Many casinos implement additional measures, such as geolocation tracking or random ID checks, to ensure compliance with age restrictions.

Are these measures enough to prevent underage gambling Huh[/center]
Let's say there is no KYC, and a child under 18 is able to outsmart the casino, then there is no strong reason to blame the casino for not taking action. Because basically there is a limitation that the casino cannot be sure when the gambler does something that violates the age limit. There is no loss on the part of the casino, and the child under 18 knowingly admits his actions plus is free from parental supervision.

 
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Actually, there are still a lot of ways to by pass that KYC requirement, but all of the are illegal. so its up to you if you are willing to take that risk.
The possible consequences are even worse as it’s almost like identity theft. Sure, you might be able to hire someone to verify for you, but what if one day they turn against you? It’s still a huge risk.

Honestly, there are plenty of casinos out there that aren’t too strict with KYC, even though they’re regulated. You just have to look around and find the right one, instead of resorting to something illegal. At the end of the day, we should be able to enjoy gambling without worrying that we’ve done something shady or illegal.
That’s why it really comes down to whether a gambler is willing to take the risk... at least they should be aware of the possible consequences if they try to go around the law. Sometimes, the urge to gamble is just so strong that people will find ways to keep going no matter what.

But nowadays, the reputable casinos are all regulated, so as gamblers, we really have no choice but to comply with the KYC. Like I said, if you can’t comply, then maybe you find some ways including those that are illegal, but its always up to the gamblers themselves.
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March 21, 2025, 01:55:17 PM
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I just think that it is impossible to filter out all the people who play in casinos who are not yet of legal age, especially if it is online. I believe that no matter what you do, there will be people who adjust their stuff to make it look like they are legal.

I remember the old days when you could adjust your birthdate to register on some online websites, and I think that could also be done. It’s just hard to monitor unless you have KYC.

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March 21, 2025, 02:16:58 PM
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I just think that it is impossible to filter out all the people who play in casinos who are not yet of legal age, especially if it is online. I believe that no matter what you do, there will be people who adjust their stuff to make it look like they are legal.

I remember the old days when you could adjust your birthdate to register on some online websites, and I think that could also be done. It’s just hard to monitor unless you have KYC.
The most important thing here is the documents you submit, they should match exactly with the information you provide when filling out your details online. Most casinos nowadays have third-party companies handling the KYC process for them.

I remember the last time I went through KYC with Sportsbet, the process was pretty much the same as verifying a digital wallet app. You have to face the camera while holding the ID you’re about to upload. Before, it wasn’t like that...

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March 21, 2025, 02:29:09 PM
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The casinos can ask a picture of selfie while holding ID card in front of government institutions and ask for live video while holding ID card, with this way, it's almost impossible for someone to fake themselves. They still have a way, but the cost and effort would be big since they have to fake everything.
This is exactly why some people hate going through KYC as it feels like there’s no more privacy. The whole point of using crypto for gambling was the anonymity, right? But now, it’s starting to feel like we’re just dealing with fiat casinos; there’s really not much difference anymore. But honestly, if you explore around the forum and do a bit of research, you’ll still find plenty of casinos where you can gamble without having to go through that process, so just look around.

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March 21, 2025, 03:34:07 PM
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I believe there's no exact way that will.be compressive enough to the point where they can be able to really detect if these age limits are been followed strictly so as to curb the underage gambling, except they are going be asking for some documents like birth certificate of license or a National Identity or security number which will be considered too sensitive an information to be required by gamblers from a casino platform,  and for them to get the right to request such of their customers there would have to be some permission from regulatory bodies of such countries or regions but in the actual sense there's really a need to regulated the gambling sphere especially against underage gamblers.
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I just think that it is impossible to filter out all the people who play in casinos who are not yet of legal age, especially if it is online. I believe that no matter what you do, there will be people who adjust their stuff to make it look like they are legal.

I remember the old days when you could adjust your birthdate to register on some online websites, and I think that could also be done. It’s just hard to monitor unless you have KYC.

Even to this day, people will continue to lie on the internet about their age, for the sake of accessing serviced which are not targeted to them, it is something which has happened since the internet was born and it will likely continue to happen as the internet exist as we know it.
If casinos really wanted to filter out people how are underage from their platforms in a definite way, then they would need to start to ask for gamblers to submit their passports to the casino (passports with geometric technology and digitally signed by the government that issued it). There are webs like LinkedIn, that already oke NFC chips on passports to authenticate the identity of their users, casinos could do the same. Though, it will obviously become a hassle for gamblers, as most of us do not have a valid passport lying around for us to do those sorts of things.

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