Are there such online casinos

[Su-asa]

However if after registering to an online crypto casino or sport betting site, you need to read their terms and conditions. I think all those things are already listed in the crypto casino/sport betting site. If the user can patiently read all the rules and regulations they could notice that their KYC should be verified before making deposits into the betting account so that they can successfully make any withdrawals if they win.
IMO, these days many find it very difficult to read the terms and conditions of a casino before agreeing to them and that's why gamblers also end up using a scam casino or betting site and recently there have been scam casino site.

[Apocollapse]

Yes there are.

I still remember with few casinos in this forum who ask to verify their account in order to explore the sites/make deposit, then many users are complaining for that.

The casinos aren't reputable and the thread already dead (I forget with the name though), the reason was high likely due to early verification.  

Cheap casino companies go through their simple process and don't show the need for it or make it mandatory. KYC verification is important for popular casinos. Some gamblers create multiple accounts to receive bonuses and then pass them on to real customers. Popular casinos deliberately create these policies to make their transactions easier and make gamblers friendly with them.

Most popular and reputable casinos didn't ask early verification too, they only ask when needed/during withdrawal.

[alani123]

Every platform that allows you to upload KYC documents should allow you to do that preemptively. Frankly most big casinos advertised here follow this good principle. If they don't do so in an obvious manner you should ask in their support to see what they respond.

If you see that they don't bother with a straight answer, it's a free market and you might as well just go to a different casino. It's pretty easy to pick and chose when there are so many. However I wouldn't feel much more secure just by this measure. If a casino has a good reputation this is the most important part.

But also even good casinos can have their reputation ruined at any moment if the management decides to go rogue.

[uneng]

However, as a player, it is better for you to know that you can be asked for kyc anytime, so you make sure you stick to their rules and don't deposit if you are from a restricted region.

It looks a simple principle to follow, but I guess the main concern of gamblers on this matter is that the casino can simply sabotage their KYC submission in order to deny a withdrawal. So, even though the gambler has legit personal data shared with the house, the casino still claim there is something missing or unclear, so they can't allow the cashout.

And then, for gamblers there is little to do, because it's their word against the casino. And as consequence, most likely they will lose their winnings.

On the other hand, if KYC was submitted a long time before (since before the first deposit), the casino couldn't use it as an excuse to deny a withdrawal.

[mcdouglasx]

Are there any online casinos that accepts KYC verifications before you start gambling after creating a new account on the platform? Something similar to what we always see crypto exchanges do to their customers? I am just curious

Not only that, people should be able to complete their verification before making any deposit. This would prevent future issues and give them time to carefully read the terms and conditions, ensuring they don’t break any rules after being verified, while also avoiding unpleasant surprises during withdrawals.

I believe I’ve read that some casinos already implement these verifications from the start, but most still prioritize a quick registration process to attract more players.

[bhadz]

If that is the process of casinos to ask before you even gamble and deposit, many will stop using them. So, the typical scenario is after your registration, you'll deposit and when you're done that's when you're going get asked for verification when you're about to withdraw. Most of the experience that I've got is that how it goes. But it's always the deposit first you'll have to do since you cannot withdraw when you don't have money. They'd ask for KYC when you are about to withdraw and you'll have no choice but to comply because you'll money gets stuck there if you don't do.

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If you want to gamble on Stake.com (Stake.us for United States customers), you will not be able to deposit money until you have submitted KYC document and get verified.

I also wanted to talk about stake.com casino as far as I remember in the past this was not a requirement. But now due to stricter anti money laundering atc stake casino has removed these flexibility and made kyc verification mandatory here.

It is because they are lazy. They want to reduce the work. They know only few customers can win. Which means less work on verification of account.

Or maybe most of the players were looking for those casino which were flexible on kyc verification?
I played on multiple casino we were reputable as well they were fixable on kyc verification until there is a suspicious activity and as well the jackpot win I guess?

[Antotena]

Are there any online casinos that accepts KYC verifications before you start gambling after creating a new account on the platform? Something similar to what we always see crypto exchanges do to their customers? I am just curious 
You open a new account on a crypto exchanges they will advice you to complete your KYC verifications first, some won't even allow withdraws until you complete the verifications. I think if online casinos starts doing the same there won't be the fear of getting robbed after you win, because most KYC verifications would already be passed right from the beginning.
Do you think that this was intentional? Maybe to find reasons why they can't process your withdrawal? I think about the same too, but what about online casinos will enough credibility already? I mean very popular online casinos.

Casino that knows what they are doing, they will immediately ask you to do KYC before you start betting so you don't want to say something like this bust as for casinos that are very corrupt, manipulative and want to take your money from you will not do most of this things, they will rather want to do it the way it will bouce back on you. I feel any player that want to gamble and don't have a problem with KYC should do it immediately they register thier account to avoid stories.

Another thing to put in mind is try as much as possible to avoid casino that doesn't this kind of things. There is a very high chance of them asking you to try and provide some documents if you win a very large amount of money from their casino. If you should go to the scam allegations board, you will see one particular casino, don't what to mentioned their names but the are very good at doing this and wouldn't sort it out until the are been call out or dragged before they allow people to withdraw, they know what the are doing.

[Sandra_hakeem]

Do you think that this was intentional? Maybe to find reasons why they can't process your withdrawal? I think about the same too, but what about online casinos will enough credibility already? I mean very popular online casinos.

In most cases with reputable casinos, I'd say maybe it's a way to cut down the stress of verifying every account which, most of them go inactive after few days of verification till whenever.
Alot of times as well, It doesn't define the casino itself to be a scam either. Everyone has an ethical arrangement and setting.

I also wanted to talk about stake.com casino as far as I remember in the past this was not a requirement.

When I got registered on stakes, I wasn't asked for anything... They only started requesting for documents when the regulations were tightened as of late, and I like it for so many reasons. Infact, that when I realized the importance of the KYCs prior depositing your wallet.

Some casinos may also not want to bother the gambler that much, until it becomes really necessary I guess?

[len01]

Not sure that this is everything, because if laziness is the reason that they don't want customers to submit their KYC verifications before they can start gambling then they can just set up an AI agent, this will make the job a lot easier, AI is making all this type of job related a breeze to handle.

Not all casinos will rely on AI and for users (gamblers) it will be very annoying.
We all know why some popular casino do not use AI to help the casino team work. Because AI not too perfect and still has many shortcomings. On the one hand, many customers complain that every problem must be handled by AI which always not satisfy.

And regarding early KYC, actually it all goes back to the policy of each casino and all of that is related to the license applied. I believe that one day the early KYC rule will be applied to other popular casino like Stake did.

[Saint-loup]

They can always ask you some extra documents,  or ask you to make your KYC another time from zero to check if you are still the same player and if you haven't borrow or buy the account to someone else in order to circumvent restrictions put on your original account and on you as a customer of the platform. So even if you are able to fill completely their initial KYC, your funds won't be safe. It would be too easy for restricted/banned players to bypass these barriers without risks.

[Nwada001]

I think I have come across a casino.  I created an account, with which they asked me to pass primary KYC first before I would be able to make use of the deposit features. I can't recall which it was, but I'm very sure I didn't proceed after that.

In a normal sense, if a casino is not KYC free, I don't see the need to wait until the casino restricts you before you apply for it. It's easier for me to pass KYC when the account is fresh and there are no funds on it. I don't consider it a means for the casino to be unfair to customers; rather, customers took it for granted.

[acroman08]

Do you think that this was intentional? Maybe to find reasons why they can't process your withdrawal?

Yes, this is intentional, it is a way to attract gamblers looking to gamble without performing KYC upon registration, and no, it is not really "to find reason" why gamblers can't process withdrawals. Casinos usually state on their ToS whether the gambler is required to perform KYC before being allowed to withdraw or not. This is also why it is extremely important to read a casino's ToS.

[Mia Chloe]

Are there any online casinos that accepts KYC verifications before you start gambling after creating a new account on the platform? Something similar to what we always see crypto exchanges do to their customers? I am just curious.
You open a new account on a crypto exchanges they will advice you to complete your KYC verifications first, some won't even allow withdraws until you complete the verifications.

This is actually why casinos are often regarded as either KYC casinos or non-KYC casinos. Sometimes kyc casinos can appear like non KYC casinos at first glance and this is one of the major reasons why it is important to go through their terms of service and conditions too before you actually complete your registration process.

Some casino require no KYC for you to be able to place bets and also deposit however based on their terms of service you would need to complete a kyc verification before you could access withdrawal features.

[Miles2006]

Do you think that this was intentional? Maybe to find reasons why they can't process your withdrawal? I think about the same too, but what about online casinos will enough credibility already? I mean very popular online casinos.

Requesting KYC while creating an account first is the best for any casino with the intention to request for a KYC afterwards either when depositing or withdrawing, getting informed first is actually better so gamblers decide if they should create an account or not besides refusing to use a casino because KYC is needed seems strange, at times casino ask for KYC document unexpected even when it’s not stated in the casino rule. Well, it’s not intentional rather the casino decides when and how they handle things also casinos as such are few.

[stadus]

Some casino require no KYC for you to be able to place bets and also deposit however based on their terms of service you would need to complete a kyc verification before you could access withdrawal features.

Some platforms only allow you to withdraw funds without verification. I believe they monitor the amount you withdraw, if it stays below a certain limit, you can continue enjoying withdrawals without KYC. However, the moment you win big, KYC will be enforced. As gamblers, we should be aware of this possibility. While we may enjoy hassle-free withdrawals now, if we fail the KYC process later, any significant winnings could be at risk.

[Agbamoni]

The need for KYC has increased significantly new casinos don't want to take the risk of having issues with users of their platform after some time. At the end of the day, a day will come when the casino requires KYC if they don't need it after signing up. So, what is the point of keeping it for long?

Simple, there are casinos that requires KYC immediately you finish registration, but they are mostly new crypto casinos.

[blockman]

Are there any online casinos that accepts KYC verifications before you start gambling after creating a new account on the platform? Something similar to what we always see crypto exchanges do to their customers? I am just curious 
You open a new account on a crypto exchanges they will advice you to complete your KYC verifications first, some won't even allow withdraws until you complete the verifications. I think if online casinos starts doing the same there won't be the fear of getting robbed after you win, because most KYC verifications would already be passed right from the beginning.

We shouldn't compare the policies that the crypto casinos and crypto exchanges have. Although both of them require to ask for KYC nowadays but they have a different approach on when they should ask. I believe that most casinos don't ask asap after registration and so they can attract more gamblers. Compared to the exchanges, they are following certain rules so they ask it just after registration.

Do you think that this was intentional? Maybe to find reasons why they can't process your withdrawal? I think about the same too, but what about online casinos will enough credibility already? I mean very popular online casinos.

It's not intentional but procedural.

[alegotardo]

Are there any online casinos that accepts KYC verifications before you start gambling after creating a new account on the platform? Something similar to what we always see crypto exchanges do to their customers? I am just curious 
You open a new account on a crypto exchanges they will advice you to complete your KYC verifications first, some won't even allow withdraws until you complete the verifications. I think if online casinos starts doing the same there won't be the fear of getting robbed after you win, because most KYC verifications would already be passed right from the beginning.
Do you think that this was intentional? Maybe to find reasons why they can't process your withdrawal? I think about the same too, but what about online casinos will enough credibility already? I mean very popular online casinos.

I understand your question and share your curiosity, but I disagree with your idea and have a very different view on the implementation of KYC in online casinos...

In my opinion, it is not necessary for online casinos to require KYC before allowing players to start playing because this would certainly be seen as an excessive barrier for players who only want to play recreationally and with low deposits.

In my opinion, the implementation of KYC is completely unnecessary for players who do not make significant withdrawals or do not have a large amount of money at stake, and the solution to solve the problem you mentioned for other players or "big luck" situations would be simple... casinos just need to adopt a more flexible and transparent approach, making it clear what document requirements and other KYC procedures may be necessary for each stage or level of play or withdrawal.

This would allow players to have more freedom to play recreationally, without the need to carry out an unnecessary advance KYC. And if you reach the mandatory level for KYC, you would already know exactly what needs to be done, with no surprises.

[joniboini]

casinos just need to adopt a more flexible and transparent approach, making it clear what document requirements and other KYC procedures may be necessary for each stage or level of play or withdrawal.

Doesn't the problem come from the fact that most casinos aren't transparent or have a clause like "reserve the rights to demand new documents when necessary" without giving more details because they want to avoid some legal loopholes or something similar?

I swear I've read a complaint where someone has to resend their documents multiple times because the platform denies it, even though they're completely legal in their country. You can find so many complaints where CS takes weeks without giving any details in so many threads. I mean, if they can be transparent, I don't think such things will happen quite often in the first place. CMIIW.