Trump tariffs can strengthen all country's economy while weakening the colony's!

[retreat]

I have seen this news, and I guess I posted it somewhere yesterday or the day before. As the newspapers mention, this is a massive blow for the US. There is no problem if someone is stupid, but the problem is that the stupid guy thinks everyone is stupid except him. Trump thinks he is a genius and knows how to control the world, and he thinks the world will kneel before him.

If any country does not hear him, he will impose tariffs and take action against them. However, there are some countries that can always challenge the USA. Russia and China have always been going against the USA.

Trump thinks that America is still superior and capable of making other countries bow down to him, whereas now the times have changed, there are already countries that are ready to fight what Trump wants to do to their countries—Russia and China are two countries that will do anything to respond to whatever Trump wants to do. China is more than ready to have a trade war with the US if they want to.

China is ready to partner with Canada, Mexico, and many other countries if they do not get the market in the US. While the US is the one who will be harmed because they do not get any benefit from this. And like of that some time ago Trump said that tariffs with China will come down substantially, it only explains that Trump is just bluffing, while China is too busy taking care of its economy and does not budge from Trump's threats.

[Zlantann]

China won't win this trade war and their society as well as economy was built up in a less healthy and sustainable ways than the USA. It's one of main reasons how they won't win this severe trade war at both national and global scale.

If they are strong, they won't have to beg many countries from small to big for partnering with them to fight against the USA. tariff war. The way they are begging for potential partners and allies only show that they are very sensitve to fail in this tariff war and they are fearful about that scenario.

Both China and the US will not win this trade war. Both nations are highly despondent on other since they have been trading partners for very long time. Both countries have started feeling the impact of the tarriff and I am sure that they are seeking for settlement.

No doubt the US is a bigger economy that is strong enough to withstand the attack of China and others. But even the US are seeking for partners to fight against China too. Don't be surprised that some countries might be signing deals with the US which includes reducing imports or imports from China.

[348Judah]

China won't win this trade war and their society as well as economy was built up in a less healthy and sustainable ways than the USA. It's one of main reasons how they won't win this severe trade war at both national and global scale.

If they are strong, they won't have to beg many countries from small to big for partnering with them to fight against the USA. tariff war. The way they are begging for potential partners and allies only show that they are very sensitve to fail in this tariff war and they are fearful about that scenario.

Both China and the US will not win this trade war. Both nations are highly despondent on other since they have been trading partners for very long time. Both countries have started feeling the impact of the tarriff and I am sure that they are seeking for settlement.

No doubt the US is a bigger economy that is strong enough to withstand the attack of China and others. But even the US are seeking for partners to fight against China too. Don't be surprised that some countries might be signing deals with the US which includes reducing imports or imports from China.

They are both stronger, but if the fight against each other, it will only expose their asses and give more room for other countries to develop themselves more as they realized their lapses in development and how they could also be independent, we must know this as a fact, that if something does not occur terribly, there may be no discovery of what is necessarily needed to get, but for now, US is still the superior because it has everything to showcase how strong its economy has been since the beginning.

[God Of Thunder]

Trump thinks that America is still superior and capable of making other countries bow down to him, whereas now the times have changed, there are already countries that are ready to fight what Trump wants to do to their countries—Russia and China are two countries that will do anything to respond to whatever Trump wants to do. China is more than ready to have a trade war with the US if they want to.

Did you spinned the text and quote my post and post exactly the same thing I said? You are not the first person I've seen doing this. I spotted a couple of forum members already who just rephrased the words of the post they are quoting and posted it as a reply. If you have something valuable to share and something unique that I did not say, then you can quote me and reply.

I don't understand the point of quoting my post and writing exactly the same thing that I already posted. So, what are you adding exactly? @DYING_S0UL, didn't you send me a DM a few days ago about exactly the same thing? Look at his post. Does it look fishy?

[DYING_S0UL]

Both of them will suffer, but the USA will be the one who gets more hurt! Both nations have always been trying to get up to each other from the very beginning. They are the biggest competitors it's no secret! And I believe China was always aware of the schemes by the USA and made future contingency plans. If we look at their trading partners from 2001 to 2024, they have significantly increased that to counter any threats like this stupid tariff war by any external nations...

Anyway, if things doesn't go as planned then best of luck to the USA, as they are about to loss their one of the bigger minerals supplier. We have already started seeing significant responses from China.

Trump thinks that America is still superior and capable of making other countries bow down to him, whereas now the times have changed, there are already countries that are ready to fight what Trump wants to do to their countries—Russia and China are two countries that will do anything to respond to whatever Trump wants to do. China is more than ready to have a trade war with the US if they want to.

Did you spinned the text and quote my post and post exactly the same thing I said? You are not the first person I've seen doing this. I spotted a couple of forum members already who just rephrased the words of the post they are quoting and posted it as a reply. If you have something valuable to share and something unique that I did not say, then you can quote me and reply.

I don't understand the point of quoting my post and writing exactly the same thing that I already posted. So, what are you adding exactly? @DYING_S0UL, didn't you send me a DM a few days ago about exactly the same thing? Look at his post. Does it look fishy?

Yes I did! Two forum members including you. I checked both the posts, and they looked similar in content! Not entirely, but yes! It would have been okay if that user just made a separate post without quoting, but he chose to quote you and post his reply! As for my case, it was very obvious that the user in question was paraphrasing! But I let that slide because it was the first time.

[Stella Mese]

Both of them will suffer, but the USA will be the one who gets more hurt! Both nations have always been trying to get up to each other from the very beginning. They are the biggest competitors it's no secret! And I believe China was always aware of the schemes by the USA and made future contingency plans. If we look at their trading partners from 2001 to 2024, they have significantly increased that to counter any threats like this stupid tariff war by any external nations...

Anyway, if things doesn't go as planned then best of luck to the USA, as they are about to loss their one of the bigger minerals supplier. We have already started seeing significant responses from China.

Of course, any response will be responded to by Tiongkok, after what Trump's tariffs have done, a tariff war will definitely occur, and that has happened, and in the end the US will think after making a mistake with the tariffs, and the impact that occurs is very large, not only Tiongkok but almost all countries, and the most feared is that the tariff war will make the economy unstable with the price of goods soaring uncontrollably.

[fuguebtc]

Both of them will suffer, but the USA will be the one who gets more hurt! Both nations have always been trying to get up to each other from the very beginning. They are the biggest competitors it's no secret! And I believe China was always aware of the schemes by the USA and made future contingency plans. If we look at their trading partners from 2001 to 2024, they have significantly increased that to counter any threats like this stupid tariff war by any external nations...

Anyway, if things doesn't go as planned then best of luck to the USA, as they are about to loss their one of the bigger minerals supplier. We have already started seeing significant responses from China.

I thought so at first, but after studying some data, I think the opposite: the US will be the one to suffer more significant damage if the trade war escalates. Although China exports more goods to the US than it imports from them but it is no coincidence that they decided to confront Trump so uncompromisingly, they have key cards that can harm the US economy.

China has a total export turnover of more than 3.5 trillion USD, of which the US market accounts for just over 400 billion USD. They are also the second largest consumer market after the US, which means their domestic market could partially compensate if they lost the US market .  Not to mention, US corporations, especially in the technology and electronics sectors, are heavily dependent on China's supply chains. 80% of Apple products and more than 50% of Tesla products are manufactured and assembled in China...General Motors and Ford import 30% of their components, or the US pharmaceutical industry has to import 80% of raw materials from China...and a lot of things the US depends on China.

It can be said that US has failed since the war began, Trump is just an empty barrel makes the most noise, he does not have any cards to ensure victory in this war.

[puloweh555]

I have seen this news, and I guess I posted it somewhere yesterday or the day before. As the newspapers mention, this is a massive blow for the US. There is no problem if someone is stupid, but the problem is that the stupid guy thinks everyone is stupid except him. Trump thinks he is a genius and knows how to control the world, and he thinks the world will kneel before him.

If any country does not hear him, he will impose tariffs and take action against them. However, there are some countries that can always challenge the USA. Russia and China have always been going against the USA.

Trump thinks that America is still superior and capable of making other countries bow down to him, whereas now the times have changed, there are already countries that are ready to fight what Trump wants to do to their countries—Russia and China are two countries that will do anything to respond to whatever Trump wants to do. China is more than ready to have a trade war with the US if they want to.

China is ready to partner with Canada, Mexico, and many other countries if they do not get the market in the US. While the US is the one who will be harmed because they do not get any benefit from this. And like of that some time ago Trump said that tariffs with China will come down substantially, it only explains that Trump is just bluffing, while China is too busy taking care of its economy and does not budge from Trump's threats.

Trump's Poker Bluff didn't work for China, Trump's intention was to make America look great in the eyes of the world but instead made China look great. America's bluff this time failed miserably, besides Trump's unstable political style is not good for partnership. Very volatile.

In addition, what made America's bluff fail was because they did not reflect on their current capabilities, they still considered themselves superior, China did not need America because their capabilities were superior in survival. Maybe this bluff wanted to repeat what happened in the past, when Japan wanted to overtake the US economy, the US imposed tariffs and made the Japanese economy decline, Japan submitted and followed the US system because it did not dare to fight back. But when it came to China, they fought back, even many other countries supported China.

[Cossyblack]

Meanwhile China import of oil from Iran has gone to all time high because of growing concerns that USA may impose sanctions on Iran.

Actually Iran has been under US sanctions ever since the revolution in 1979 when Iranians overthrew the US backed dictatorship and replaced it with democracy. And since Obama's maximum pressure sanctions, there isn't that much left that they haven't already sanctioned
Iran's oil is under US sanction. Tankers carrying Iranian oil are under US sanctions. The ports accepting Iranian oil are under US sanctions. The refineries receiving Iranian oil are under US sanctions and so on...

The series of Sactions is because the United States fear Tehran growing military influence in the middle East will be a threat especially to the Zionist Army. Iran doesn't supports US presence and Israeli injustice in the middle East and has been speaking out against them when necessary. If you're aware,Iran hasn't been silent in Gaza massacre and have responded swiftly against the Israeli army, hitting  their territory with deadly weapons to show their supports to the Palestinians. The US doesn't like nations that aren't ready to bend the knees or worship them and IRAN isn't and wouldn't do it. Just of recent,the US have tightened their grips on IRAN by Sanctioning more entities that have traded business with Iran. All of this Sactions is to destabilize the economy of Iran and stalled their progress from growing more and more powerful than Israel. Inspite of all this Sactions and attacks on Iran economy, Iranians have continued to grow their economy and haven't stop supporting Palestinians. I am proud of them.

[MusaPk]

Meanwhile China import of oil from Iran has gone to all time high because of growing concerns that USA may impose sanctions on Iran.

Actually Iran has been under US sanctions ever since the revolution in 1979 when Iranians overthrew the US backed dictatorship and replaced it with democracy. And since Obama's maximum pressure sanctions, there isn't that much left that they haven't already sanctioned
Iran's oil is under US sanction. Tankers carrying Iranian oil are under US sanctions. The ports accepting Iranian oil are under US sanctions. The refineries receiving Iranian oil are under US sanctions and so on...

It's just that when a "weapon" is overused, it becomes less effective. It's like the US regime has one arrow in its quiver but because they've used it a million times the arrowhead is dull now.

As for China, they are buying more oil from Iran because of 2 things:
1. They need to diversify their energy imports. They import a lot of their oil from the Arab countries. The dictators in such countries have a tendency to obey Washington. So when the economic war between US and China enters its next phases, US could easily order them to decrease or stop their export to China and it would threaten Chinese economy.
The only independent country that is also reliable and is not known for even listening to US demands let alone obeying them like the Arabs do, is Iran. Therefore it becomes a fantastic source for diversification.

2. The Chinese have lots of plans for their future and their economy such as the revival of Silk Road (BRI). A major rout (and probably the only route that matters) passes through Iran and West Asia where Iran can provide the security for.
In short the Chinese desperately need Iran (aka the heartland) to be able to fulfil their future plans. Therefore they are buying as much oil from Iran as they can to provide Iran with some economic support (the only weakness Iran has) and in return get a strategic partner.

One more reason why China buying Iran oils is that only countries like China has the capability to buy Iran oil under strict US restrictions. Even neighbours of Iran i.e. Pakistan and India are not able to buy cheap Iran oil/GAS due to strict US pressure. India backed off from IPI (Iran-Pakistan-India) gas pipeline project while Iran-Pakistan gas pipeline project is still under construction despite the fact Iran has completed it's portion but Pakistan reluctant to start it's part because of USA pressure.   

US department of state on 20th Mar 2025 sanctioned Huaying Huizhou Daya Bay Petrochemical Terminal Storage for buying and storing Iranian oil. Only China can sustain such US pressure. After Iran revolution in 1979, USA Iran tension is always increasing and Iran courage to move forward despite sanctions on everything from USA.

Gulf countries have no other choice but to obey orders of USA because all there oil trade is in US dollar and all money of Gulf leaders is in banks of USA. USA troops are present in almost all gulf countries for provision of security because these gulf countries despite having so much money are not able to defend themselves against external threats. Today USA has offered KSA a deal of arm import of worth 100 billion usd, you think KSA can use these weapons against USA interest?

[pooya87]

Gulf countries have no other choice but to obey orders of USA because all there oil trade is in US dollar and all money of Gulf leaders is in banks of USA. USA troops are present in almost all gulf countries for provision of security because these gulf countries despite having so much money are not able to defend themselves against external threats.

They aren't really facing any external threats though. The US military presence is also not to provide them with security (despite their "contract" saying so) but it is to only fulfill US regime interests which is mostly to destabilize the region and keep the dictators in control to keep Petrodollar scam alive.

As you may know the Arab dictators on the southern shore of Persian Gulf are mostly illegitimate regimes that are hanging by a thread. If it weren't for US and specifically CIA support, these regimes would be removed by their people through revolutions. That's another reason why they obey Washington like this.

[SuperBitMan]

Gulf countries have no other choice but to obey orders of USA because all there oil trade is in US dollar and all money of Gulf leaders is in banks of USA. USA troops are present in almost all gulf countries for provision of security because these gulf countries despite having so much money are not able to defend themselves against external threats.

As you may know the Arab dictators on the southern shore of Persian Gulf are mostly illegitimate regimes that are hanging by a thread. If it weren't for US and specifically CIA support, these regimes would be removed by their people through revolutions. That's another reason why they obey Washington like this.

You are right, those Arab dictators get protection from the U.S. and that is why they are still ruling if not just like you said they would have been removed by their people through revolutions and we know U.S. they don't do something without wanting to get something in return the reason for this protection they are offering is so they can have Oil stability through this Arab dictators and to have Bases and allies in the Gulf giving the U.S. fast access to hotspots like Iran, Iraq and part of Africa.
And because of this benefit the U.S. are getting from this Gulf countries they don't care if they are going against human rights and that is why you see the U.S. turning a blind eye to the crackdowns on dissent in Bahrain or Saudi Arabia's war in Yemen, as long as these Arab dictators  support U.S. interest the U.S. will always cover them up.
The U.S. are only interested in what they can get.

[Cossyblack]

Gulf countries have no other choice but to obey orders of USA because all there oil trade is in US dollar and all money of Gulf leaders is in banks of USA. USA troops are present in almost all gulf countries for provision of security because these gulf countries despite having so much money are not able to defend themselves against external threats.

They aren't really facing any external threats though. The US military presence is also not to provide them with security (despite their "contract" saying so) but it is to only fulfill US regime interests which is mostly to destabilize the region and keep the dictators in control to keep Petrodollar scam alive.

As you may know the Arab dictators on the southern shore of Persian Gulf are mostly illegitimate regimes that are hanging by a thread. If it weren't for US and specifically CIA support, these regimes would be removed by their people through revolutions. That's another reason why they obey Washington like this.

This is exactly what's happening in Africa particularly Burkina fasso,it's just a small country rich in Gold, uranium and other minerals resources. Relating to what you said about the US installing Puppets as rulers to control them for personal interests is also the same thing the US and her French ally are trying to achieve in Burkina fasso. They have plot several assassination coup to kill the  current  ruler of Burkina fasso which have failed. This desperate attempt to kill the president is because he has refused to become a puppet to the US and the French govt. These western nations have been stealing Burkina fasso resources for years under the previous regime of a favourable ruler to the US and French but this current ruler immediately put a stop to it and as a result of that have been marked for death by this greedy western rulers.

The US is fond of installing political crocodiles/dictator as puppets with an agreement & agenda to aid them in secretly looting the country resources. I find this act as very shameful and obnoxious for country that claims to be world power. They obviously try to destabilize Iran by installing a Puppets but it failed,I wonder when the US will ever learn from the Russians, eventually stop been greedy and be contender with what they have.

[MusaPk]

They aren't really facing any external threats though. The US military presence is also not to provide them with security (despite their "contract" saying so) but it is to only fulfill US regime interests which is mostly to destabilize the region and keep the dictators in control to keep Petrodollar scam alive.

As you may know the Arab dictators on the southern shore of Persian Gulf are mostly illegitimate regimes that are hanging by a thread. If it weren't for US and specifically CIA support, these regimes would be removed by their people through revolutions. That's another reason why they obey Washington like this.

They are not facing any threat right now doesn't mean that they won't have any future threat. KSA is busy buying expensive weapons from USA, latest news is that USA is selling arms worth 100 billion USD to KSA despite investing so much in defence and earning so much from oil export did you name any big international forum where KSA or any other gulf county is given any importance? Saddam Hussain was once darling of US but when he went against interest of US his regime was overthrown and Saddam was hanged. It's irony that gulf countries are not learning anything from history.

[avp2306]

They aren't really facing any external threats though. The US military presence is also not to provide them with security (despite their "contract" saying so) but it is to only fulfill US regime interests which is mostly to destabilize the region and keep the dictators in control to keep Petrodollar scam alive.

As you may know the Arab dictators on the southern shore of Persian Gulf are mostly illegitimate regimes that are hanging by a thread. If it weren't for US and specifically CIA support, these regimes would be removed by their people through revolutions. That's another reason why they obey Washington like this.

They are not facing any threat right now doesn't mean that they won't have any future threat. KSA is busy buying expensive weapons from USA, latest news is that USA is selling arms worth 100 billion USD to KSA despite investing so much in defence and earning so much from oil export did you name any big international forum where KSA or any other gulf county is given any importance? Saddam Hussain was once darling of US but when he went against interest of US his regime was overthrown and Saddam was hanged. It's irony that gulf countries are not learning anything from history.

But I doubt they would try to challenge the US while they are a super power country since this will cause a fall down of their regime. That's why they provably serve the interest of US because somehow they are benefiting on it and as long as US still there I guess there's no revolution or fighting against them would gonna happen.

Maybe for now they are so important for US because of their oil and geopolitical positions but if they made a wrong move and didn't serve well the interest of US then provably that they would face the consequences on what Husain experience.

US government is so smart since they really know how to play the game and maintain its power.

[Popkon6]

US farmers’ loss is Brazil’s gain as China diversifies soybean imports
With tariffs on US soybeans, most of China’s summer imports will come from Brazil, according to the US Department of Agriculture’s April outlook report
Amid an escalating trade war with the US, China has turned to Brazil for more agricultural imports, and April has seen a significant rise in soybean shipments from the South American country.

Source link: https://www.scmp.com/economy/global-economy/article/3308232/us-farmers-loss-brazils-gain-china-diversifies-soybean-imports?module=perpetual_scroll_0&pgtype=article

The soybean trade agreement with the US and China, which used to supply them with soybeans, is currently closed, and Brazil will fill this soybean shortage. Brazil is able to fill this soybean oil supply gap between China and Brazil. This month, about 40 Brazilian soybean oil ships are expected to call, marking a 48 percent increase year-on-year.
The report added that ships at the port are able to unload about 700,000 tons of soybean oil, which represents an increase of about 32 percent compared to the same period last year. However, this trade agreement between Brazil and China is widely effective, and Brazil is also ready to supply more soybean oil in the future.

[Dunamisx]

Gulf countries have no other choice but to obey orders of USA because all there oil trade is in US dollar and all money of Gulf leaders is in banks of USA. USA troops are present in almost all gulf countries for provision of security because these gulf countries despite having so much money are not able to defend themselves against external threats.

They aren't really facing any external threats though. The US military presence is also not to provide them with security (despite their "contract" saying so) but it is to only fulfill US regime interests which is mostly to destabilize the region and keep the dictators in control to keep Petrodollar scam alive.

Maybe its now high time we discover the usefulness of the being independent and the reason behind the agitation for freedom in the use of USD by BRICS and more so, why you can discover other countries in deep fear over this increase tariff while some few are less concerned because they see USD as no more a dominance currency for them to depend upon, that is why countries like China and Russia and taking more strong actions against the USD being their mainstream, embracing bitcoin as an alternative, which i know very soon all these will extend to other part of the world, they will realize that its time for a change and that alone begins with the removal of USD dominance as mainstream and choosing a decentralized economy like with bitcoin

[Wind_FURY]

Everyone should also try to see the situation from the standpoint of the U.S. - China could already be, or if not yet, could become a hostile country. That's probably why the U.S. should be less dependent on Chinese products and onshore most of the manufacturing for the products they need.

How is that actually bad for a "failing country"?

 ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

[pooya87]

Everyone should also try to see the situation from the standpoint of the U.S. - China could already be, or if not yet, could become a hostile country. That's probably why the U.S. should be less dependent on Chinese products and onshore most of the manufacturing for the products they need.

Every country, every system, every regime stands for something and has certain principles without which they lose everything. For example China has communist regime. US has a liberalist regime. When they start dictating things for their economy and to their oligarchs it goes against their principles.

They can call it whatever they want, protectionism, mercantilism, whateverthecrapism, and it may even end up being a good thing but it is in direct contradiction with liberalism and liberal economy. They can't talk about freedom of anything anymore.

That's not what people are complaining about on the internet. The problem is when the US regime tries to dictate what others should do. Like threatening BRICS nations if they decided to not-use the dollar!!! Or threatening Panama to not have deals with China. Or threatening to invade Canada, Greenland, etc....

Besides, in this topic I am trying to focus on the opportunity that all this mess opens up for everyone else. Someone posted a link above about Brazil doing what I explained in the example in my OP ($50 billion soybeans and corn market) almost a month ago. So it is not just me seeing this opportunity. It was too obvious to miss, and those who were wise are going to make a ton of money from my analysis here

[Popkon6]

China grants access to more Australian sheep and goat meat amid Trump trade war
China has granted access to more Australian lamb and mutton as it looks for other markets during the trade war with US President Donald Trump.
Ten Australian abattoirs have been given approval to export their sheep and goat meat to China for the first time.
What's next?
The meat industry hopes more opportunities will arise in the red meat market.
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2025-04-28/more-sheep-and-goat-meat-to-be-sent-to-china-amid-trade-wars/105223046

The trade war between the US and China has led to a shortage of meat in China, which has been met by beef in the past. But a new deal has been signed between Australia and China, with Australia set to supply sheep and goat meat. For the first time, 10 Australian goat and sheep slaughterhouses have been granted preferential access. Australian slaughterhouses will have to be separately approved by the Chinese government for a long-term contract.
While the Chinese government has been able to reach agreements with various countries, the US government of Donald Trump is failing to reach an agreement to meet the needs of its consumers. Already, China has made extensive trade agreements with countries such as Australia and Brazil. As a result, the Chinese government is able to meet the needs of its people, but only American citizens are facing danger because their products are going beyond the reach of American citizens.