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April 08, 2025, 11:59:08 AM
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April 5, 1975 is not "Satosh Nakamoto's birthday" as suggested in this thread "Bitcoin creators turn 50 today Assumed birthday".

April 5, 1975 represents a subversion of the USA and its people by the Federal Reserve Bank, who made holding gold illegal for a period of almost 42 years.

[1] On April 5, 1933, Executive Order 6102 came into effect, the executive order that makes holding gold illegal for US Citizens.
[2] On December 31, 1974, this executive order was repealed. Meaning that from 1975 onward, holding gold was allowed again.

[1] (April 5)


[2] From the first day of (1975), this order was effectively repealed.
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The limitation on gold ownership in the US was repealed after President Gerald Ford signed a bill to "permit United States citizens to purchase, hold, sell, or otherwise deal with gold in the United States or abroad" with an act of Congress codified in Pub. L. 93–373,[22][23][24] which went into effect December 31, 1974


That was all a speculation. Satoshi never stated any where his date of birth. There are always so many rumours out there on social medias about satoshi, non of which is real.

April 5 is listed on the P2P Foundation Wiki. However the year is 1970. Multiple sources say that the year is 1975. The reason why multiple sources say 1975 is if you look at the Satoshi's profile on webarchive you will see that his age changes based on the birth year of 1975, not 1970. Same with months, the birthday changes after April, reconfirming April 5.

Satoshi Nakamoto did indeed list April 5 as his birth date and according to the web archive, 1975 was the year listed as well.

This is not speculation.


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April 08, 2025, 12:48:06 PM
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That was all a speculation. Satoshi never stated any where his date of birth. There are always so many rumours out there on social medias about satoshi, non of which is real.

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April 08, 2025, 01:22:11 PM
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April 5, 1975 is not "Satosh Nakamoto's birthday" as suggested in this thread "Bitcoin creators turn 50 today Assumed birthday".

April 5, 1975 represents a subversion of the USA and its people by the Federal Reserve Bank, who made holding gold illegal for a period of almost 42 years.

[1] On April 5, 1933, Executive Order 6102 came into effect, the executive order that makes holding gold illegal for US Citizens.
[2] On December 31, 1974, this executive order was repealed. Meaning that from 1975 onward, holding gold was allowed again.

[1] (April 5)

Is there any correlation between bitcoin and gold being illegal? I could twist it to find something similar but it would honestly sound too much of a reach. I do not know if this is where it came from but the birth date of Satoshi really had no source and it was nothing but speculation. Though I would say it is quite ironic that at some point, holding gold was illegal. One could say that bitcoin was almost a reminiscent of that.
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April 08, 2025, 02:02:57 PM
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That was all a speculation. Satoshi never stated any where his date of birth. There are always so many rumours out there on social medias about satoshi, non of which is real.
OP likewise didn't state satoshi birthday was April 5th, rather he's disputing said fact.



[2] From the first day of (1975), this order was effectively repealed.
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The limitation on gold ownership in the US was repealed after President Gerald Ford signed a bill to "permit United States citizens to purchase, hold, sell, or otherwise deal with gold in the United States or abroad" with an act of Congress codified in Pub. L. 93–373,[22][23][24] which went into effect December 31, 1974

I'm certain satoshi didn't just place that date at random
Maybe he was signifying the birth of something else
But your view is promising but in the end all we can do is speculate
Quite surprised buying Gold was illegal at a time.
 

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What a nice discovery about April 5 irrespective of the year, at least we have something to celebrate as an opportunity on this same date, once we can see what has been in place before and what the said day of the month of April has brought to humanity, we can see that its something worth celebrating, i now see why the other thread talks about US being the ones behind the name Satoshi and this was argued by other members because it lack evidence.

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April 08, 2025, 03:27:02 PM
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OP, your findings are better than the other, which claimed to be Satoshi's birthday without any proof or fact at hand to back up their claims. This is a somewhat historical day for the US citizens as they were allowed to hold and trade in gold at home and abroad after an appeal to do so. It is quite remarkable and something to hold onto by the US citizens as a day of liberation against the rules that prohibited them from having gold individually.

There was never a time or place where Satoshi stated his birthday, and I think he kept everything about himself a top secret to protect his identity. To this day, nobody has any clue about him, and nobody would ever know it.



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April 08, 2025, 04:18:34 PM
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April 5, 1975 is not "Satosh Nakamoto's birthday" as suggested in this thread "Bitcoin creators turn 50 today Assumed birthday".

April 5, 1975 represents a subversion of the USA and its people by the Federal Reserve Bank, who made holding gold illegal for a period of almost 42 years.
There are many events, developments that play as foundations for Bitcoin and they are parts of Bitcoin Prehistory.

If people can use this event related to gold and the USA's Federal Reserve Bank policy change against their citizens, as a reason for appointing it as Satoshi Nakamoto's birthday, there are more other events can be used similarly.

Bitcoin prehistory shows that before 1975, there are developments for A Protocol for Pocket Network Intercommunication and in later years there are other developments from cryptography to some first cryptocurrencies.

 
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That was all a speculation. Satoshi never stated any where his date of birth. There are always so many rumours out there on social medias about satoshi, non of which is real.

April 5 is listed on the P2P Foundation Wiki. However the year is 1970. Multiple sources say that the year is 1975. The reason why multiple sources say 1975 is if you look at the Satoshi's profile on webarchive you will see that his age changes based on the birth year of 1975, not 1970. Same with months, the birthday changes after April, reconfirming April 5.

Satoshi Nakamoto did indeed list April 5 as his birth date and according to the web archive, 1975 was the year listed as well.

This is not speculation.

Is there any correlation between bitcoin and gold being illegal? I could twist it to find something similar but it would honestly sound too much of a reach. I do not know if this is where it came from but the birth date of Satoshi really had no source and it was nothing but speculation. Though I would say it is quite ironic that at some point, holding gold was illegal. One could say that bitcoin was almost a reminiscent of that.

It is symbolic of corruption and corruption. It is unconstitutional for a country to ban its citizens from holding a commodity for no reason and to threaten imprisonment for doing so. I would assume that the listed birth date is a reminder that this happened.

Some of what Bitcoin (and satoshi) originally stood for was anti-corruption, freedom, sovereignty, decentralization and privacy. As well as disdain for the banking system, how it worked and its history (such as this event).
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April 09, 2025, 10:06:33 AM
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There was never a time or place where Satoshi stated his birthday, and I think he kept everything about himself a top secret to protect his identity. To this day, nobody has any clue about him, and nobody would ever know it.


Funny be the case, what if this as duly noted "Satohsi Nakamoto" happens to be a group of persons and we are just here making blind guesture and arguing about it?
The speculations surrounding the identity of Satohsi has been a much trending here, when do we get to an end to it? Because I know even when anyone is paraventurely get to the real detail of him with documents evidence, we would still doubt and argue it.
Having someone come out in reality with the claim of being the Satoshi will not still get us satisfied.
So what really do we want? And what is the way forward to get this done if not let go about the speculative detectorships.

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April 09, 2025, 10:54:04 AM
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There was never a time or place where Satoshi stated his birthday, and I think he kept everything about himself a top secret to protect his identity. To this day, nobody has any clue about him, and nobody would ever know it.


Funny be the case, what if this as duly noted "Satohsi Nakamoto" happens to be a group of persons and we are just here making blind guesture and arguing about it?
The speculations surrounding the identity of Satohsi has been a much trending here, when do we get to an end to it? Because I know even when anyone is paraventurely get to the real detail of him with documents evidence, we would still doubt and argue it.
Having someone come out in reality with the claim of being the Satoshi will not still get us satisfied.
So what really do we want? And what is the way forward to get this done if not let go about the speculative detectorships.

It is really funny, though, that people have tried claiming to be the real Satoshi and can not prove it for the world to see what the claim to be. That alone would validate the fact that there would never be a clue to Satoshi's real identity, and you should understand that now. You might as well be right that Satoshi could be a group of people or so, but till now there has never been any proof about it, and I could say it is amongst the most viral speculations of the century, and it would continue to remain so. It would be nice if the world gets it clear that Satoshi is an unknown identity and nobody would ever have clues to who he or she is.



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April 09, 2025, 11:24:03 PM
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It is really funny, though, that people have tried claiming to be the real Satoshi and can not prove it for the world to see what the claim to be. That alone would validate the fact that there would never be a clue to Satoshi's real identity, and you should understand that now. You might as well be right that Satoshi could be a group of people or so, but till now there has never been any proof about it, and I could say it is amongst the most viral speculations of the century, and it would continue to remain so. It would be nice if the world gets it clear that Satoshi is an unknown identity and nobody would ever have clues to who he or she is.
The most famous Faketoshi is Craig Wright that was debunked by many people including Jameson Lopp and COPA trial.

Craig Wright's Copyright claim.
How many wrongs make a Wright?

When people completely failed in finding identity of Satoshi Nakamoto, they tried to do something more funny, assigning a special day as a birthday of Satoshi Nakamoto. This action is very arbitrary and I disagree with any day assigned as the Bitcoin founder's birthday. If people can do arbitrary choice like this, in future others might do other arbitrary things towards Satoshi Nakamoto while they don't have anything to back their choices. Nothing good with arbitrary actions just to satisfy the crowd, and it can be sources of fud, if it is not about birthday but related to something else.

 
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There was never a time or place where Satoshi stated his birthday, and I think he kept everything about himself a top secret to protect his identity. To this day, nobody has any clue about him, and nobody would ever know it.


Funny be the case, what if this as duly noted "Satohsi Nakamoto" happens to be a group of persons and we are just here making blind guesture and arguing about it?
The speculations surrounding the identity of Satohsi has been a much trending here, when do we get to an end to it? Because I know even when anyone is paraventurely get to the real detail of him with documents evidence, we would still doubt and argue it.
Having someone come out in reality with the claim of being the Satoshi will not still get us satisfied.
So what really do we want? And what is the way forward to get this done if not let go about the speculative detectorships.

There was never a time or place where Satoshi stated his birthday, and I think he kept everything about himself a top secret to protect his identity. To this day, nobody has any clue about him, and nobody would ever know it.


Funny be the case, what if this as duly noted "Satohsi Nakamoto" happens to be a group of persons and we are just here making blind guesture and arguing about it?
The speculations surrounding the identity of Satohsi has been a much trending here, when do we get to an end to it? Because I know even when anyone is paraventurely get to the real detail of him with documents evidence, we would still doubt and argue it.
Having someone come out in reality with the claim of being the Satoshi will not still get us satisfied.
So what really do we want? And what is the way forward to get this done if not let go about the speculative detectorships.

It is really funny, though, that people have tried claiming to be the real Satoshi and can not prove it for the world to see what the claim to be. That alone would validate the fact that there would never be a clue to Satoshi's real identity, and you should understand that now. You might as well be right that Satoshi could be a group of people or so, but till now there has never been any proof about it, and I could say it is amongst the most viral speculations of the century, and it would continue to remain so. It would be nice if the world gets it clear that Satoshi is an unknown identity and nobody would ever have clues to who he or she is.

It is really funny, though, that people have tried claiming to be the real Satoshi and can not prove it for the world to see what the claim to be. That alone would validate the fact that there would never be a clue to Satoshi's real identity, and you should understand that now. You might as well be right that Satoshi could be a group of people or so, but till now there has never been any proof about it, and I could say it is amongst the most viral speculations of the century, and it would continue to remain so. It would be nice if the world gets it clear that Satoshi is an unknown identity and nobody would ever have clues to who he or she is.
The most famous Faketoshi is Craig Wright that was debunked by many people including Jameson Lopp and COPA trial.

Craig Wright's Copyright claim.
How many wrongs make a Wright?

When people completely failed in finding identity of Satoshi Nakamoto, they tried to do something more funny, assigning a special day as a birthday of Satoshi Nakamoto. This action is very arbitrary and I disagree with any day assigned as the Bitcoin founder's birthday. If people can do arbitrary choice like this, in future others might do other arbitrary things towards Satoshi Nakamoto while they don't have anything to back their choices. Nothing good with arbitrary actions just to satisfy the crowd, and it can be sources of fud, if it is not about birthday but related to something else.

I think that all three of you should start looking at threads a little more closely before posting. Satoshi Nakamoto himself put April 5 as his birthday on his P2P Foundation profile. It is obviously not Satoshi's birthday, and it is clearly a message/reminder about Executive order 6102 from Satoshi himself.

That was all a speculation. Satoshi never stated any where his date of birth. There are always so many rumours out there on social medias about satoshi, non of which is real.

April 5 is listed on the P2P Foundation Wiki. However the year is 1970. Multiple sources say that the year is 1975. The reason why multiple sources say 1975 is if you look at the Satoshi's profile on webarchive you will see that his age changes based on the birth year of 1975, not 1970. Same with months, the birthday changes after April, reconfirming April 5.

Satoshi Nakamoto did indeed list April 5 as his birth date and according to the web archive, 1975 was the year listed as well.

This is not speculation.


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April 10, 2025, 10:14:26 AM
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Is it that these unproven speculations are steadily being peddled around the media to spark debates? Realistically, there's nothing evidential enough to prove that these constant speculations are true. Today we're discussing Satoshi's birthday, tomorrow, someone will also come up with another speculations about a man that's remained anonymous since the he introduced Bitcoin as a project. What do people really want to do with his identity and personal life?

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Is it that these unproven speculations are steadily being peddled around the media to spark debates? Realistically, there's nothing evidential enough to prove that these constant speculations are true. Today we're discussing Satoshi's birthday, tomorrow, someone will also come up with another speculations about a man that's remained anonymous since the he introduced Bitcoin as a project. What do people really want to do with his identity and personal life?

To find it out and to speak about the fact, obviously Wink

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Is it that these unproven speculations are steadily being peddled around the media to spark debates? Realistically, there's nothing evidential enough to prove that these constant speculations are true. Today we're discussing Satoshi's birthday, tomorrow, someone will also come up with another speculations about a man that's remained anonymous since the he introduced Bitcoin as a project. What do people really want to do with his identity and personal life?

What is there to speculate about? This has nothing to do with the birthday of Satoshi. It has to do with Satoshi himself listing April 5, 1975 as his birthday on the P2P foundation and why he did that (why, is most likely due to relation to the Executive Order 6102). It is not about speculating about the real birth date of satoshi. It is about the meaning of April 5, which Satoshi Nakamoto listed on their P2P Foundation profile (1, 2):

April 5, 1975 is not "Satosh Nakamoto's birthday" as suggested in this thread "Bitcoin creators turn 50 today Assumed birthday".

April 5, 1975 represents a subversion of the USA and its people by the Federal Reserve Bank, who made holding gold illegal for a period of almost 42 years.

[1] On April 5, 1933, Executive Order 6102 came into effect, the executive order that makes holding gold illegal for US Citizens.
[2] On December 31, 1974, this executive order was repealed. Meaning that from 1975 onward, holding gold was allowed again.

April 5, 1975 is not speculation, Satoshi Nakamoto himself listed this data, sourced below in a previous post

April 5 is listed on the P2P Foundation Wiki. However the year is 1970. Multiple sources say that the year is 1975. The reason why multiple sources say 1975 is if you look at the Satoshi's profile on webarchive you will see that his age changes based on the birth year of 1975, not 1970. Same with months, the birthday changes after April, reconfirming April 5.

Satoshi Nakamoto did indeed list April 5 as his birth date and according to the web archive, 1975 was the year listed as well.

This is not speculation.


A lot of you seem to have not read the contents of the thread, making idiotic comments about Satoshi Nakamoto's actual birth date, when this is not the subject, in fact it has nothing to do with the birth date of satoshi nakamoto, but the meaning of what he himself had put on his P2P Foundation profile as his birth date, which represents Executive Order 6102.

This topic is turning into a fly trap for people who don't read entirety of topics/OP it seems Smiley
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