Open letter to wackjobs like Bitcoingirl.club

[GeorgeJohn]

I cannot extinguish the love I have for my son or daughter just because he or she makes a choice that I don't agree with.
He/She should do what makes him happy, not what makes me happy.

As a father or mother, we are meant to teach our children the pathway they will benefit in future, children can be influenced when they lack advice

Allowing your son or daughter to make he or her decision to what pleases them, is good, but you won't allow them to make a wrong decision because it pleases them, what they think that will make them happy now can make them cry if it's wrong thing, so that is why you have to give your children reasons on everything you dislike them not to do...some daughters and sons emulate things that's horrible, at that period they're emulating such think, they may think it will make them happy..so we stand to correct our children for good things.

[babo]

I cannot extinguish the love I have for my son or daughter just because he or she makes a choice that I don't agree with.
He/She should do what makes him happy, not what makes me happy.

As a father or mother, we are meant to teach our children the pathway they will benefit in future, children can be influenced when they lack advice

Allowing your son or daughter to make he or her decision to what pleases them, is good, but you won't allow them to make a wrong decision because it pleases them, what they think that will make them happy now can make them cry if it's wrong thing, so that is why you have to give your children reasons on everything you dislike them not to do...some daughters and sons emulate things that's horrible, at that period they're emulating such think, they may think it will make them happy..so we stand to correct our children for good things.

In fact, for important decisions, you just need to take your time, consult psychologists and take all the steps you need to take.
When a person decides to have a homosexual partner, for example, it is not a decision you make today for tomorrow.
These are long decisions that mature over time, not things you do in 6 months. But in years.

[Free Market Capitalist]

Unbelievable how I still have to witness such discriminatory discussions in 2025!

I imagine you live in a country where religions that blame homosexuality do not play a relevant role. I have asked ChatGPT how many people practice religions that condemn homosexuality and he tells me this:

People whose religions officially or traditionally condemn or disapprove of homosexuality:
Roughly 3.9 to 4.5 billion

This doesn’t mean all of these individuals are anti-LGBT—many may be indifferent or supportive despite their religion’s teachings. But if you're asking based on doctrinal stances, that's the ballpark.

I would say that those who really hate homosexuals are considerably less than that number but it serves to give us an idea that at least half of the world's population has a cultural background not favorable to the understanding of that sexual orientation.

[Lillominato89]

Unbelievable how I still have to witness such discriminatory discussions in 2025!

I imagine you live in a country where religions that blame homosexuality do not play a relevant role. I have asked ChatGPT how many people practice religions that condemn homosexuality and he tells me this:

People whose religions officially or traditionally condemn or disapprove of homosexuality:
Roughly 3.9 to 4.5 billion

This doesn’t mean all of these individuals are anti-LGBT—many may be indifferent or supportive despite their religion’s teachings. But if you're asking based on doctrinal stances, that's the ballpark.

I would say that those who really hate homosexuals are considerably less than that number but it serves to give us an idea that at least half of the world's population has a cultural background not favorable to the understanding of that sexual orientation.

I think you didn't understand a damn thing I said. I am for total freedom, do you want to be gay? Lesbian? Bisexual? Transsexual? I'm OK with everything, the important thing is that the person who decides this must be happy. If one day my children tell me that they have a different nature from what they were born, who am I to stop them from being happy? Next time you use an artificial intelligence, ask it to let you explain what other people have written

[Free Market Capitalist]

I think you didn't understand a damn thing I said.

I am not the one who did not understand the other.

I am for total freedom, do you want to be gay? Lesbian? Bisexual? Transsexual? I'm OK with everything, the important thing is that the person who decides this must be happy. If one day my children tell me that they have a different nature from what they were born, who am I to stop them from being happy?

So what? My point is that you likely live in a country where religion doesn't play an important role. And I see that I was right, since you write in the local Italian forum which means that either you live there or you were born there. In Italy, as in most other European countries atheism is growing, besides there is a total separation between church and state, the state is secular.

Next time you use an artificial intelligence, ask it to let you explain what other people have written

We already have another AI-allergic Luddite here. I'm not even surprised anymore.

The next time you go to use the only neuron you have think that there are many countries where there is no separation between religion and state and that this western vision you have is not universal by far.

But I think that for a non-IA like you it will be very difficult to understand this.

[Lillominato89]

I think you didn't understand a damn thing I said.

I am not the one who did not understand the other.

I am for total freedom, do you want to be gay? Lesbian? Bisexual? Transsexual? I'm OK with everything, the important thing is that the person who decides this must be happy. If one day my children tell me that they have a different nature from what they were born, who am I to stop them from being happy?

So what? My point is that you likely live in a country where religion doesn't play an important role. And I see that I was right, since you write in the local Italian forum which means that either you live there or you were born there. In Italy, as in most other European countries atheism is growing, besides there is a total separation between church and state, the state is secular.

Next time you use an artificial intelligence, ask it to let you explain what other people have written

We already have another AI-allergic Luddite here. I'm not even surprised anymore.

The next time you go to use the only neuron you have think that there are many countries where there is no separation between religion and state and that this western vision you have is not universal by far.

But I think that for a non-IA like you it will be very difficult to understand this.

It may be that I have only one neuron as you say but I use it well, you who have many instead are cleverly using religious discourse to justify a person who uses certain discriminatory expressions.
I don't know what to say... I'll just give you a 90-minute round of applause.
Anyway, I never said I was anti-IA. Having said that I am ending the conversation with you because it seems to be really shoddy

[JollyGood]

If you are stating you are a genuine newbie that has no other accounts, I would have to disagree. It is possible you have no motive, interest or time to be a puppeteer however since you are using this account puts doubt on that claim. Will you reveal any of the other names you use in the forum?

I may become a puppeteer in the future, who knows  (I have no motive, interest, ...and/or time in doing so tbh)  

[apogio]

If you are stating you are a genuine newbie that has no other accounts, I would have to disagree. It is possible you have no motive, interest or time to be a puppeteer however since you are using this account puts doubt on that claim. Will you reveal any of the other names you use in the forum?

I may become a puppeteer in the future, who knows  (I have no motive, interest, ...and/or time in doing so tbh)  

Not to play devil's advocate here, but it could also be a user who knows someone in the forum personally. Another user for example. I am saying this because the user is very active in this campaign as well: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5535260.0, which could also be because someone told them about it and they registered to participate.

The determination is outstanding. It took me 6 months to realise there are boards other than bitcoin in this forum.
And, to be honest, I am still hesitant when posting in Meta, Reputation and Services boards.

[Free Market Capitalist]

It may be that I have only one neuron as you say but I use it well, you who have many instead are cleverly using religious discourse to justify a person who uses certain discriminatory expressions.

What a moron, let's go over how ridiculous you've been.

1. I am an atheist.
2. If instead of starting to cry like a little girl the minute someone says something that deviates from your discourse you would have bothered to read some of what has been said in the thread you would have realized that not only have I not justified what you say I have justified but I have literally tagged Bitcoingirl.club for being a fucking Nazi for his anti gay comments.

Anyway, I never said I was anti-IA.

Oh yeah you AI Luddite, you are right.

Having said that I am ending the conversation with you because it seems to be really shoddy

Really? Don't you want to continue making a fool of yourself?

[Vod]

1. I am an atheist.

I too was an atheist until it was pointed out how hypocritical I was.  Religious people have faith god exists.  Atheists have faith god does not exist.  Faith is simply belief without evidence, and it doesn't matter how fantastical or logical the evidence is.  So denouncing them was denouncing myself.   Now I call myself agnostic.   I'd like to convert you. 

xOrpian - thx but I don't need PR right now - everything I have will hopefully be posted on the web next week, and you can grab it from there, and ask for any missing information. 

I'm keeping this thread open because I feel there is still some discussion left about feelings vs facts.   I do not leave negative feedback for feelings, but wackjobs don't have the same morals.   Bitcoingirl and OgNasty like to call their opinions and feelings fact, and criminally back them up with imaginary evidence.   

[xOrpian]

The determination is outstanding. It took me 6 months to realise there are boards other than bitcoin in this forum.
And, to be honest, I am still hesitant when posting in Meta, Reputation and Services boards.

Should I ask for your permission, and experience? (This is the reply you're getting if you're calling me 'for playing devil's advocate' took some time to realize you aren't)  

Jokes aside, thank you for noticing, and the limelight 

[Lillominato89]

It may be that I have only one neuron as you say but I use it well, you who have many instead are cleverly using religious discourse to justify a person who uses certain discriminatory expressions.

What a moron, let's go over how ridiculous you've been.

1. I am an atheist.
2. If instead of starting to cry like a little girl the minute someone says something that deviates from your discourse you would have bothered to read some of what has been said in the thread you would have realized that not only have I not justified what you say I have justified but I have literally tagged Bitcoingirl.club for being a fucking Nazi for his anti gay comments.

Anyway, I never said I was anti-IA.

Oh yeah you AI Luddite, you are right.

Having said that I am ending the conversation with you because it seems to be really shoddy

Really? Don't you want to continue making a fool of yourself?

My time is worth money, and talking to you, who propose speeches of very little intelligence, is time wasted for me. I have never allowed myself to offend you or anyone else, and given the vulgar language you use, I do not intend to continue talking to you fueling useless flames.

[JollyGood]

We were all newbies once and we found various boards at our own pace over a period of time. When newbie accounts are posting with determination and knowledge not normally associated with those that are new to the forum, suspicions will arise. Usually, when I see newbie accounts posting in the Reputation board, they are operated by a puppeteer.

Not to play devil's advocate here, but it could also be a user who knows someone in the forum personally. Another user for example. I am saying this because the user is very active in this campaign as well: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5535260.0, which could also be because someone told them about it and they registered to participate.

The determination is outstanding. It took me 6 months to realise there are boards other than bitcoin in this forum.
And, to be honest, I am still hesitant when posting in Meta, Reputation and Services boards.

[xOrpian]

We were all newbies once and we found various boards at our own pace over a period of time. When newbie accounts are posting with determination and knowledge not normally associated with those that are new to the forum, suspicions will arise. Usually, when I see newbie accounts posting in the Reputation board, they are operated by a puppeteer.

This can also explain if these newbies (pupeteer abuse some forum features?) like mass reporting a perticular post for whatever reason, or agenda?

I think this is because of this.

Moderators can't see users' mail. This has not worked for a long time.

You can go through the post and thread I've mentioned here, and get the picture of what I want to say, the thread's locked purpose of being fulfilled, so no discussions can be made there

[Free Market Capitalist]

I too was an atheist until it was pointed out how hypocritical I was.  Religious people have faith god exists.  Atheists have faith god does not exist.  Faith is simply belief without evidence, and it doesn't matter how fantastical or logical the evidence is.  So denouncing them was denouncing myself.   Now I call myself agnostic.   I'd like to convert you. 

I don't see how you're going to convince me. You wouldn't be the first to try and I do know the difference between agnosticism and atheism.

My time is worth money,

Your time on the forum is 20% less valuable than mine, if we measure it in the only objective way that can be measured here. You are a bigoted bragger who after repeatedly making a fool of yourself still goes around bragging.

and talking to you, who propose speeches of very little intelligence, is time wasted for me. I have never allowed myself to offend you or anyone else, and given the vulgar language you use, I do not intend to continue talking to you fueling useless flames.

You said that before and here you continue to make a fool of yourself.

Do you have anything to say on the subject in question? That is, contrary to what you say not only have I not justified criticism of homosexuals, but I am the only one who has left a tag to whom Vod refers to as a wackjob in this regard.

[xOrpian]

I don't see how you're going to convince me. You wouldn't be the first to try and I do know the difference between agnosticism and atheism.

I can prove it that you're in your body, not your body, not your mind, but if you won't know it yourself then why would you believe someone else, specially somoene telling you about god, who knows this universe is a brain with our galaxy (milky way) having it's own life, but there are others (ofc we won't know that) crossing this galaxy, ours with current main stream means even if you consider light year speed you'll still spend 100,000 light years approx getting past ours, unless you find some way faster than this...

There had been UFO sightings in many places of the world, I am not the only one witnessing a structure moving in sky that's slightly transparent, but the lights glowing (Yea I saw this one after I fed milk to a cat, was on chair when it took place), when I went to rooftop after the craft went far, I was looking at it, and a Military Craft came from another direction, and went to the direction, this previous so called UFO (Wavelength type lights glowing, and it's moving from my view horizontally), and the Military craft went right over my head, was I scared?, no.

Before this happened (at night) around 1 AM, I was at rooftop, and saw 5-10 Crafts (Could be military ones who knows) searching for something in around 3 Sq Kms of my area, they kept coming and going, I was listening to music when it took place, I watched till it suited me then I left for rest, I've also seen white lights taking U-Turn (Yes U-Turn, if you're in a craft that took U Turn at that speed, then don't except to feel well, ever, talking) and these were on much high in sky compared to classic planes (Economy, or Military ones)

I've seen there's some user who also talked about Witchcraft, but there's a science to it too, I won't go in detail, just search 'chaledan hours' on google, know about the planet, and download any software that shows the planetary hours of area, yes you'll have to input your timezone (Planets keep changing their distance, they don't remain in a static place, and they have effects on mojority of things on this planet, about others I don't know.)

Now deduce what I told you, to this - If life forms on this planets are effected by planets, then surely other galaxies do the same, frog doesn't know how big the world is if it remains in its well) - If so called UFOs exist (I believe, you don't have to), then they've discovered a way to travel faster than speed of light, creating crafts that won't kill somoene who's inside it, all while taking U Turn at speed you've not seen any craft doing) - Now if these crafts have such advanced tech, then what stops them from freely coming on this planet, what's the problem, surely they won't be scared of us... nvm.

In short, Intent comes first, everything else later, both internal and external. Before you move your hand, you make the intent, and then the hand moves.
Are you telling the mind, or is the mind telling you?

[Vod]

The wackjob has started a moderated thread so he can censor replies, just like OgNasty.  

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5538473.0

I guess I win, was I fighting?

[xOrpian]

The wackjob has started a moderated thread so he can censor replies, just like OgNasty.  

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5538473.0

I guess I win, was I fighting?

Do you have to fight when the opponent can't even breast lick, forget about showing it on a profile picture?

Next one should be 'Wojack memes' 

[Vod]

I see Bitcoingirl.club has decided to call me an extortionist, probably in support of OgNasty.  :/

Is his identity known?   Does he have the money to defend himself?  Let me know via PM.

See what happens when one does not immediately address these illegal accusations?   Og got away with the pedophile one, but calling me an extortionist is encouraging others and further harming my ability to make a living here.  I am also not harassing Og daily IRL as he claims.

Govern yourselves accordingly, bozos.  

None of this makes sense IMO. You both probably should consider removing the red and staying away from each other.

I'm not going to set a precedence that the best way to remove negative trust is to leave your own.  :/

[Vod]

Yahoo, Shishir99
Have you studied the root of all these that are happening so far?

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Vod created a topic attacking two Ukranians - Etranger and DrBeer
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I had my opinions which went against his arguments.
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Vod left me a neutral feedback addressing "I may be planning an exit scam". WFT! For an argument?
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I don't usually check my feedback page, additionally I was not active for a few months too but eventually I noticed it one day and called him out that he is not mentally stable [obviously he IS mentally unstable]. Yes, I insulted him and called him gay. Why would not I? If he can call me an exit scam [using feedback] for not supporting his attack on some members then I can insult him with whatever words I want.

Just to be nice with him knowing he has mental issues, for the treatment of his mental insatiability I offered to pay his doctor [it was not fun though. It may look like I was trolling but seriously I had a plan to drop him $50 or $100 or even around $500 if needed but his extorsion attempt had changed my mind]
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Taking the opportunity Vod planned to extort me [obviously he thought I was trolling and wanted to make sure the opportunity does not slip out to get some money and was creating pressure]. He left a neutral feedback stating that he will remove the old feedback and replace it with positive feedback if I pay the money. He even dropped the btc address.
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Later he deleted the neutral feedback because he realized that he was indeed keeping evidences of his extortion. But unfortunately he did not noticed that I had the screenshot of the deleted feedback. Obviously he got caught and now he does not have any answer to give regarding the only deleted feedback that was relevant directly to his extorsion attempt.

Vod's feedback directly impact others because he is in DT. Being in DT, when someone is using feedback to win his invalid arguments [no matter valid or invalid, two people can HAVE disagreements] over others then it is feedback abuse. You all can call it drama but Vod needs to stop because he started it just because he did not like me to have a argument with him. He even dared to call me an exit scam which is a stupid statement so far the entire forum experienced.

~Vod is the best course of action you can take. An extortionist, feedback abuser DT can not bring positive benefit to a community.

Update:
Feedback abuser continues updating his feedback. He removed his last red feedback on my trust page and replaced it with the new one.

Where did he found this mutual effort idea? Obviously he is a liar and his extorsion attempt confirms because he have no answer to give regarding the deleted neutral feedback which was an attempt to remove the trace of his extortion attempt.

I'm copying this here so it won't be deleted.  This wackjob has taken lied about too many things out of context like his hero OG to be respected anymore.   I wish I knew what law enforcement agencies are confirming and documenting all the extortion claims from those two.  :/   Anyway, good riddance to a terrible moral person.