How will casinos face, Fake AI KYC's verification?

[Zoomic]

This abuser has already started committing KYC verification fraud through AI.

I am picking this out to tell you that there are already AI systems to detect KYC verification frauds using AI.

This article I read, I will highlight how AI makes a difference for KYC verification:

• Enhanced accuracy in identity verification
• Efficient risk assessment
• Automated monitoring and alerts
• Reducing false positives

You can watch how this works on YouTube. There is no need to even bother yourself about this happening.

I wonder why people think that the same AI they use to cheat the system cannot be used to detect when a user is cheating. Just like we have AI detection tools for identifying AI-generated content here in this forum.

The interesting thing I like about online casino cheating, especially the motive of bypassing KYC verifications, is that everything usually goes smoothly until the gambler hits a mega win and their account is withheld due to some minor irregularities or suspicious activities. At that point, the gambler stands the chance of losing everything.

Instead of providing fake KYC details, they should simply look for casinos that offer what they want in order to avoid future repercussions.

[peter0425]

I don't think we need to discuss such matters because we are not running any casino business. But I believe they know how to detect AI or fake identity, as they know the situation. Of course, they won't tell how, but surely they run some tests to verify if their player is a human vs. a robot.

Are we asking so that we can use the methods a lot of scammers use? Lol. No but maybe it is just out of curiosity. If you are a casino owner, you would not be studying and taking data about this kind of things from an online forum. You will actually have the resources to learn about this.

Based on my experience, some casinos ask for face identification, which I think is difficult to fake. There are many tests that they are going to run, which is why it takes mostly 24 hours for the process.

If there is anyone who can fake it, it will be someone with access to some sophisticated technological tools which not a lot of your average gamblers will have.

[Dr.Bitcoin_Strange]

OP, there will always be a means by which casinos would use to identify fake national identity number (card), fake drivers license and fake passport. Even if they unknowingly verify without noticing, it could be out of luck for the gamblers but does not mean that the casino would not be able to detect others. Like a member already mentioned here, if a casino is fully registered and licensed, they will not be limited to have access to the country's National Identity database to verify if any ID they receive is real or not. Even if they don't have access, they should have access to the authority who can help them check for any suspicious KYC.

[AbuBhakar]

Now, where I have doubts is that casino sites make kyc verification successful without getting access to the data of the national id of any country. How will they fight or are they fighting with these new methods of AI? So is casino KYC verification currently just for show purposes to get the license? 

I’m sure there will be tools available to counter an AI work through reverse engineering since AI work is technically smooth and perfect while real KYC usually have flaws on the image quality.

In an event that AI KYC is already too realistic in able to verify as fraud I think it’s already checkmate for the casino unless they will manually verify the KYC on each country government ID database that will need time to complete.

[sokani]

OP, there will always be a means by which casinos would use to identify fake national identity number (card), fake drivers license and fake passport. Even if they unknowingly verify without noticing, it could be out of luck for the gamblers but does not mean that the casino would not be able to detect others.

Scammers buy IDs from the darkweb and use it to pass identification checks. They also use deepfake to bypass facial recognition test. So maybe gamblers from restricted countries also do this to pass verification process on casino. But I find it weird that a gambler could go through this just to play on a casino. IMO, it's not worth it. If the country is banned, it's best to look for another casino where he's allowed to gamble.

[robelneo]

Now, where I have doubts is that casino sites make kyc verification successful without getting access to the data of the national id of any country. How will they fight or are they fighting with these new methods of AI? So is casino KYC verification currently just for show purposes to get the license? 

I'm sure that casinos are fully aware of AI abuse, and its the gambling industry's concern that they upgraded their system to trace AI abuse.
There is no perfect AI for a tool that is able to trace AI-generated KYC. AI can deceive humans, but when it comes to AI against AI these KYC AI will easily expose it.
Humans can easily train themselves to train their eyes to notice the differences between an AI generated KYC; there's always a flaw in anything that is fake.

[dimonstration]

I'm sure that casinos are fully aware of AI abuse, and its the gambling industry's concern that they upgraded their system to trace AI abuse.
There is no perfect AI for a tool that is able to trace AI-generated KYC. AI can deceive humans, but when it comes to AI against AI these KYC AI will easily expose it.
Humans can easily train themselves to train their eyes to notice the differences between an AI generated KYC; there's always a flaw in anything that is fake.

AI against AI is indeed the key to counter this abused since human eyes can be easily deceived especially if they are working in bulk approval compared when using AI that usually have set criteria to check accurately.

Fake KYC from AI posed a huge problem to all online services that need to be regulated. This is one of the main disadvantages of the use of AI.

I finally understand why a failed KYC verification on the casino sometimes result to ban because of this AI generated KYC.

[YOSHIE]

So is casino KYC verification currently just for show purposes to get the license? 

I just found out that the KYC process can escape with the intelligence robot/Al, I think this is something that must be anticipated by the online casino itself, I think if the Al system is not responded and not followed up by the casino this will have a negative impact on gamblers and casinos.

For example:
Minors involved in online gambling will easily go through the KYC process, if Al works well, it's a serious problem that must be handled by Casinos, casinos do not only think of profits, the negative effects that occur because Al must also be taken seriously, in order to prevent things that are not wanted.

[death69]

With KYC verification, casinos are engaging in a dangerous game. Although AI-driven systems can detect fraud and identity theft, in practice these systems are only as good as the data they are supplied. Without proper entry points, AI cannot enchantment determine authenticity. The idea that casinos can fight AI-powered fraud with more AI? It is a never-ending circle, a defense mechanism that never truly wins. We have liveness detection, face injection assaults, and all kinds of fresh approaches emerging quicker than security can handle.

Casinos, like any other institution, are motivated by money. Sure, they can apply all these high-tech solutions, but it's starting to seem like this KYC verification game might only be a show, a formality to acquire that valuable licence. Although they would say they are combating fraud, how can they ensure anything without actual access to national ID data? Their struggle is practically a performance, a mirage of protection based on unstable foundation. And whose gains result from this? The scammers, the abusers, the ones manipulating the system.

[coin-investor]

We all know that Artificial Intelligence has become very powerful nowadays and just as it is being used for good purposes, abusers are also in the ground to abuse it. This abuser has already started committing KYC verification fraud through AI.
Many may say that the Liveness Detection option will be able to detect them, but in this case too I saw that they are skipping it by using Face Injection Attacks and also the others methods.

When you say AI produced result, its artificial and there are always flaws in anything that is artificially produced, so in case it becomes rampant in the casino industry, the industry will and can find a way to systemize tracing artificial results from players who will undergo KYC verification.
The gambling industry is dynamic and always ready to implement new and innovative systems to trace cheaters, because if they cannot, they will lose money from manipulation.
It's the number one concern of every casino to enhance their security.

[KiaKia]

Firstly, I am sorry if this kinds of discussion already discussed here , but I try to find casino kyc with ai related discussion but couldn't found.

Ok, let me enter the main point.
We all know that Artificial Intelligence has become very powerful nowadays and just as it is being used for good purposes, abusers are also in the ground to abuse it. This abuser has already started committing KYC verification fraud through AI.
Many may say that the Liveness Detection option will be able to detect them, but in this case too I saw that they are skipping it by using Face Injection Attacks and also the others methods.

Now, where I have doubts is that casino sites make kyc verification successful without getting access to the data of the national id of any country. How will they fight or are they fighting with these new methods of AI? So is casino KYC verification currently just for show purposes to get the license? 

It will be a big shame if any online casino is still using the old KYC verification method today, gone are those days where you only need to submit your ID and they will approve it, verification method is now more advanced than this, even Binance exchange way of passing KYC verification is way better, they upgraded.

You now need to pass verification live, your face have to be recognised through your camera in a live method, there is no way you can bypass this because it won't ask for files to upload, it will ask for permission to access your phone or laptop camera.

After passing this stage you will be asked to write down date and your name on a paper or a board and use it to take a selfie, again in a live video method with your identity card.

I expect every online casinos to have implemented this type of KYC verifications already, because it's been around for few years now.

[Smartprofit]

I am sure that online casinos will use tools such as artificial intelligence to verify users and organize the KYC procedure.

In turn, online casino users will use artificial intelligence to imitate the KYC procedure and fake its results.

This modern technology will be used by two parties. In essence, it can be compared to a battle between armor and a projectile. Improving the armor leads to the fact that engineers also improve the projectile, which begins to penetrate this new armor. And so on ad infinitum.

In my opinion, a radical solution to this problem is a complete rejection of the KYC procedure. However, all parties to this evolutionary process will most likely not come to such a decision anytime soon.

[suzanne5223]

Yes, of course, there's no innovative technology that's introduced that online thieves won't use for their selfish benefits. But when AI was on the verge of going mainstream, a lot of authority came into the picture and filed for the regulation of AI to avoid future disaster.
The major outcome of the regulation filed by the authority is not known to the public. Still, if you notice the AI service, you'll see that some concept was deliberately added to the result provided by the AI, which is used by the AI expert and detection engine to know the contents and services created by AI.

I believe the KYC verification operative will also have something, which is why we see the gambling platforms and others working with private professional KYC verification platforms that work hand in hand with the government ID agency.
Only the casino that uses the services provided by this private KYC professional I see as the casino that didn't request KYC for license purposes.

[|MINER|]

Yes, of course, there's no innovative technology that's introduced that online thieves won't use for their selfish benefits. But when AI was on the verge of going mainstream, a lot of authority came into the picture and filed for the regulation of AI to avoid future disaster.
The major outcome of the regulation filed by the authority is not known to the public. Still, if you notice the AI service, you'll see that some concept was deliberately added to the result provided by the AI, which is used by the AI expert and detection engine to know the contents and services created by AI.

You are right that this is how technologies are being used today. But the problem is that each one has different variations. For example, if you don't know about QuillBot, I can say that it can paraphrase text content created by artificial intelligence and turn it into human-generated text content.
What I actually want to explain with my topic is that there are currently many casinos that are only asking for show kyc. In fact, if they have this type of KYC verification, then there is basically no need to implement this system.

[348Judah]

Now, where I have doubts is that casino sites make kyc verification successful without getting access to the data of the national id of any country. How will they fight or are they fighting with these new methods of AI? So is casino KYC verification currently just for show purposes to get the license? 

This has to do with the information or documents being provided by the gambler which may have to clearly shows its AI generated or not, but am well convinced that if we can have a tool that detect for the use of AI, then it may not be a difficult task to identify such in providing for AI kyc documents during verification, once the gambling platform is being able to set a system that coordinate and detect the use of AI, they will definitely apprehend for any attempt for the use.

[Cantsay]

Although I have not read any fake KYC verification at any casino yet, but I remember when I embarked on my journey into crypto, I did not have a National ID card and for this I had to create a fake NID with the help of a website and then submit it, even though it was a crypto exchanger and they automatically made me a successfully KYC verified user. So these assumption are not really totally false but I think there will have solution soon as well we saw some initiative against AI vs AI

Wow, this is the first time I’m hearing something like this - I can still remember a crypto exchange that requested for me to complete my kyc verification and I was unable to provide the required documents and the other ones I brought were rejected by them saying that it was not among those that they accept.

If an exchange can be easily bypassed that way then I don’t think I’ll ever make use of such an exchange because they might not have enough resources to keep user’s funds safe if they couldn’t even protect their system from fake documents.

[Accardo]

What I actually want to explain with my topic is that there are currently many casinos that are only asking for show kyc. In fact, if they have this type of KYC verification, then there is basically no need to implement this system.

You are right, they'll be no way the ones that's nicely done would be detected since some casinos don't thoroughly go over the submitted document. That doesn't mean the house won't do so when the method gets overused, but at an early stage they may be allowing it to maximize profits before the law enforcement begin to pay attention on the new development. Remember there were no KYCs, so, allowing what looks or fits in to be called a personal document won't be a trouble, many of the casinos are in the game for money, hence offer minimal restrictions on accounts that don't aim at reaping them off.

[Crypto Library]

Wow, this is the first time I’m hearing something like this - I can still remember a crypto exchange that requested for me to complete my kyc verification and I was unable to provide the required documents and the other ones I brought were rejected by them saying that it was not among those that they accept.

If an exchange can be easily bypassed that way then I don’t think I’ll ever make use of such an exchange because they might not have enough resources to keep user’s funds safe if they couldn’t even protect their system from fake documents.

Have you heard the p2pb2p exchanger? yeas I was able to do the kyc here with out the real information of mine . Maybe you could say this is one of the dump exchange, and yes it is  I won't disagree.

But as well I also heard from one of my close friend he also able to do bypass the kucoin and another said another one name but I forgot he was also the  same situation like me we haven't got the national Id card in our hand .

But currently I won't gonna suggest to anyone to do this because even you got able to bypass the kyc verification with fake data but may be you can also be in trap on the future like fridges funds.

[Findingnemo]

Firstly, I am sorry if this kinds of discussion already discussed here , but I try to find casino kyc with ai related discussion but couldn't found.

Similar subject brought into discussion a while back, can't able to find the link.

Yes, casino and exchanges will be hard time verifying the authenticity of the ID provided but there are some ways like only accept certain types of ID like passport those are easy to find if it's faked and liveness test is the key amd that's what people will use AI to bypass but as of now it's detectable when someone use such tools but in future it will be hard to differentiate the fake and real one.

Also I read that casino deal with third party agencies to deal with the verification who might have access to some kind of government database.

[Kemarit]

OP, there will always be a means by which casinos would use to identify fake national identity number (card), fake drivers license and fake passport. Even if they unknowingly verify without noticing, it could be out of luck for the gamblers but does not mean that the casino would not be able to detect others. Like a member already mentioned here, if a casino is fully registered and licensed, they will not be limited to have access to the country's National Identity database to verify if any ID they receive is real or not. Even if they don't have access, they should have access to the authority who can help them check for any suspicious KYC.

It's not about fake licenses or what, I don't think that a casino has access to a local databases of countries and say that it's not real. The problem that they are facing is that it's too realistic that you can't distinguished what's fake or what's real because of AI.

And so even the best system now might not be a match with the AI technology being used by fraudsters. The only thing that I can think of is that casinos also uses the same technology that they are using so that they can detect if it is AI or not.

There could already be technologies for anti-deepfake detection. Similar to what we have, those tools to detect if the post is AI generated or not.