Have You Ever Sued a Casino?

[bias]

In court, the casino also have more information, proof and statistics of user behavior to counter gamblers accusation. Gambler dont remember all their moves, but casino have all of them written down. If a gambler goes in court and try to sue casino for something, casino have multiple evidences of gamblers previous minor or major rule violations, that they can use against gambler. That is their ace in a hole. Gambler present one case of casino wrong behavior, casino present explanation why their behavior was correct, plus bunch of cases when that gambler play suspicious (I think just by giving an example of suspicious action is enough to change judges decision in casino favor).

Firstly, why are you so certain that the gambler had violated (minor or major) the casino rules at some point? Secondly, if the case has to do with the casino not paying me my winnings, what does my playing style/ gambling behavior have to do with it? Thirdly, going to court isn't without a case or about something random and general. Is specific. So, suing the casino for "something" is more than general and can't stand anywhere.
So let's give an example. I deposit $100 from a wallet/ bank account/ or any other way the casino allows. Without any problem in my accounts (not dirty/ marked). I play a slot game, and I win $5k. I went to the Cashier to withdraw, but the casino wouldn't let me. I sent them emails, but they didn't reply, or they said to me that I was violating their ToS. We have a dispute, and I believe that they scammed me, so I'm suing them. What will the casino present from my gambling behavior that makes me accountable? Nothing. What does my case have to do with other cases where gambler has suspicious activity? None. In other words, if the gambler is crystal clear, have nothing to fear.
Btw, if the casino presents cases of suspicious activity or any type of violation from any player, the judge will fine the casino for not blocking him and continuing to allow the player to gamble there. Oops!

[moneystery]

most casinos operate abroad so it will be a bit difficult for players to sue them legally because in addition to players needing to spend money to hire a lawyer, they also need to go through a series of complex processes because there may be differences in law or other administrative matters. so if the player only has a problem with a smaller amount of money, it will not be possible for them to take legal action... at most they can send an objection via email or write their case on an online website that usually displays reviews about casinos. but if it involves larger amounts of money, such as millions of dollars, maybe it can be done by the player, but maybe the resolution of the case will take a long time and the results also depend on the court's decision.

[bakasabo]

In court, the casino also have more information, proof and statistics of user behavior to counter gamblers accusation. Gambler dont remember all their moves, but casino have all of them written down. If a gambler goes in court and try to sue casino for something, casino have multiple evidences of gamblers previous minor or major rule violations, that they can use against gambler. That is their ace in a hole. Gambler present one case of casino wrong behavior, casino present explanation why their behavior was correct, plus bunch of cases when that gambler play suspicious (I think just by giving an example of suspicious action is enough to change judges decision in casino favor).

Firstly, why are you so certain that the gambler had violated (minor or major) the casino rules at some point? Secondly, if the case has to do with the casino not paying me my winnings, what does my playing style/ gambling behavior have to do with it? Thirdly, going to court isn't without a case or about something random and general. Is specific. So, suing the casino for "something" is more than general and can't stand anywhere.
So let's give an example. I deposit $100 from a wallet/ bank account/ or any other way the casino allows. Without any problem in my accounts (not dirty/ marked). I play a slot game, and I win $5k. I went to the Cashier to withdraw, but the casino wouldn't let me. I sent them emails, but they didn't reply, or they said to me that I was violating their ToS. We have a dispute, and I believe that they scammed me, so I'm suing them. What will the casino present from my gambling behavior that makes me accountable? Nothing. What does my case have to do with other cases where gambler has suspicious activity? None. In other words, if the gambler is crystal clear, have nothing to fear.
Btw, if the casino presents cases of suspicious activity or any type of violation from any player, the judge will fine the casino for not blocking him and continuing to allow the player to gamble there. Oops!

I believe, that almost nobody reads ToS, and there, I think, there are lines or clauses with very specific info about playstyle. I cant give any example, as ToS are different, but lets suppose gambler is allowed to gamble only from one location. Does everyone follow that? I think everyone play "if I managed to login, then everything is fine with me". That is not 100% right statement, but rather a hypothesis. Secondly, I think that casino monitor and write down gamblers behavior. Example, if you login and start clicking on news or go directly to slots - it is you and your natural behavior. If you start session with checking withdrawal methods, then it might not be you. That is what I have meant with playstyle. You dont pay attention to that, but casino does and have records of your behavior. In court, they might use that against you. They might try to turn case into "it wasnt you that was gambling, so we took decision to cancel all results and ban you", and try to ruin case in court. In theory they can do that. All I wanted to say that casinos are sneaky and will try to find hundred reasons to turn victim into criminal.

[milewilda]

In court, the casino also have more information, proof and statistics of user behavior to counter gamblers accusation. Gambler dont remember all their moves, but casino have all of them written down. If a gambler goes in court and try to sue casino for something, casino have multiple evidences of gamblers previous minor or major rule violations, that they can use against gambler. That is their ace in a hole. Gambler present one case of casino wrong behavior, casino present explanation why their behavior was correct, plus bunch of cases when that gambler play suspicious (I think just by giving an example of suspicious action is enough to change judges decision in casino favor).

Firstly, why are you so certain that the gambler had violated (minor or major) the casino rules at some point? Secondly, if the case has to do with the casino not paying me my winnings, what does my playing style/ gambling behavior have to do with it? Thirdly, going to court isn't without a case or about something random and general. Is specific. So, suing the casino for "something" is more than general and can't stand anywhere.
So let's give an example. I deposit $100 from a wallet/ bank account/ or any other way the casino allows. Without any problem in my accounts (not dirty/ marked). I play a slot game, and I win $5k. I went to the Cashier to withdraw, but the casino wouldn't let me. I sent them emails, but they didn't reply, or they said to me that I was violating their ToS. We have a dispute, and I believe that they scammed me, so I'm suing them. What will the casino present from my gambling behavior that makes me accountable? Nothing. What does my case have to do with other cases where gambler has suspicious activity? None. In other words, if the gambler is crystal clear, have nothing to fear.
Btw, if the casino presents cases of suspicious activity or any type of violation from any player, the judge will fine the casino for not blocking him and continuing to allow the player to gamble there. Oops!

I believe, that almost nobody reads ToS, and there, I think, there are lines or clauses with very specific info about playstyle. I cant give any example, as ToS are different, but lets suppose gambler is allowed to gamble only from one location. Does everyone follow that? I think everyone play "if I managed to login, then everything is fine with me". That is not 100% right statement, but rather a hypothesis. Secondly, I think that casino monitor and write down gamblers behavior. Example, if you login and start clicking on news or go directly to slots - it is you and your natural behavior. If you start session with checking withdrawal methods, then it might not be you. That is what I have meant with playstyle. You dont pay attention to that, but casino does and have records of your behavior. In court, they might use that against you. They might try to turn case into "it wasnt you that was gambling, so we took decision to cancel all results and ban you", and try to ruin case in court. In theory they can do that. All I wanted to say that casinos are sneaky and will try to find hundred reasons to turn victim into criminal.

I would say that 99.9% of gamblers do skip out on reading up that terms and conditions and who would be wanting to read up that pile of text and trying to find on what are those things on which it is just that always the same with other platforms or companies when it comes to terms and conditions. So they do assume out that its just the same but there those terms that will be totally be used against on a gambler and if you are someone who do violate something and the casinos do focus on that or thrown at you then there's no way that you can have the confidence on fighting back on which you dont even know or even sure on what are those violations and if you cant be so sure on whats happening then you wouldn't be finding yourself that trying out to sue them out not unless if you do have that solid evidence that you have not doing something wrong or stupid against their terms then you can have a fight but if you do saw the amount isnt that something worth that you can fight on then its better to let it go and move on. We do know legal fights wont come cheap and totally put a whole into your pocket but if the amount that we are talking on here is something which is too big then you can totally have that fight as long you do have the money to push on. Just make it sure that you have all of the possible evidences and hadn't violated something then thats whats important.

[Cryptmuster]

Do you think that there is any point in fighting the casino in court? I think that this is a sure-fire losing case, firstly, the casino definitely has a good team of lawyers, whom you simply will not be able to resist, secondly, they write everything in the user agreement and what you may not like, you have already previously agreed, so before doing anything, reread the user agreement again (or maybe read it if you just agreed to it the first time without reading it), I think that after this any desire to deal with the court will disappear.)

[Crypto Library]

Do you think that there is any point in fighting the casino in court? I think that this is a sure-fire losing case, firstly, the casino definitely has a good team of lawyers, whom you simply will not be able to resist, secondly, they write everything in the user agreement and what you may not like, you have already previously agreed, so before doing anything, reread the user agreement again (or maybe read it if you just agreed to it the first time without reading it), I think that after this any desire to deal with the court will disappear.)

Even if the users have all the evidence, I don't think most people here will sue the casino because let's say you only bet $50 and you wind up with $500 and the casino doesn't want to give you that by any means. I also assume you haven't violated the casino's terms and conditions.
But would you go to court and fight a case against the casino for this $500, I mean the 50 dollar you spent on the casino, and hire a lawyer for a much higher amount? And my point is that very few people win the jackpot and I have never seen a user who did not receive his money even after winning the jackpot by following the terms and conditions of the casino. There are many cases where the gambler did not receive the reward because he violated the terms and conditions. And I'm not talking about scammers here.

[Taskford]

Do you think that there is any point in fighting the casino in court? I think that this is a sure-fire losing case, firstly, the casino definitely has a good team of lawyers, whom you simply will not be able to resist, secondly, they write everything in the user agreement and what you may not like, you have already previously agreed, so before doing anything, reread the user agreement again (or maybe read it if you just agreed to it the first time without reading it), I think that after this any desire to deal with the court will disappear.)

Even if the users have all the evidence, I don't think most people here will sue the casino because let's say you only bet $50 and you wind up with $500 and the casino doesn't want to give you that by any means. I also assume you haven't violated the casino's terms and conditions.
But would you go to court and fight a case against the casino for this $500, I mean the 50 dollar you spent on the casino, and hire a lawyer for a much higher amount? And my point is that very few people win the jackpot and I have never seen a user who did not receive his money even after winning the jackpot by following the terms and conditions of the casino. There are many cases where the gambler did not receive the reward because he violated the terms and conditions. And I'm not talking about scammers here.

No sense to fight at that amount at all since imagine how big your expenses if you sue them legally since you need to pay professional fees and other necessary things. This is common reason why there's only few cases been reported that they sue a casino since most of people don't want any further more troubles and what common things they do is to post a warning about their experience on that particular casino then let the community the decide if they continue to gamble or not.

That's why the best thing we could do is to choose the most reputable casino so that we can avoid getting this issues. Since usually this cases happened on scam casinos.

[summonerrk]

This question just popped into my head.

Most casinos we play at now are regulated, meaning we technically have recourse if things go sideways. But here's what usually happened, when a player feels cheated, the usual move is to rant on forums, accuse the casino of scamming, and hope the community backs them up.

But what if the casino, despite being regulated, has all the right excuses and ends up swaying the community in their favor? You know you’ve been wronged, but now even fellow gamblers are dismissing you.

At that point, do you:

1- Fight back legally? (Even if it’s expensive and the odds are stacked against you.)
2- Just let it go?

Curious if anyone’s actually gone through with legal action or if it’s all just forum talk in the end.

This is a very interesting question. I think that very few gamblers think about it.
The thing is that many people come to the casino just to play and have fun. And even if this person sees that luck is not on his side, he will not do anything about it. After all, it is very difficult to prove that this casino has stopped some algorithms in its favor.
In my opinion, a gambler can try to prove his case only by collecting statistics on his games, indicating that his chances are constantly very small, and that: the casino can refer to the fact that the distance of the gambler's games is not very large.

[bakasabo]

In court, the casino also have more information, proof and statistics of user behavior to counter gamblers accusation. Gambler dont remember all their moves, but casino have all of them written down. If a gambler goes in court and try to sue casino for something, casino have multiple evidences of gamblers previous minor or major rule violations, that they can use against gambler. That is their ace in a hole. Gambler present one case of casino wrong behavior, casino present explanation why their behavior was correct, plus bunch of cases when that gambler play suspicious (I think just by giving an example of suspicious action is enough to change judges decision in casino favor).

Firstly, why are you so certain that the gambler had violated (minor or major) the casino rules at some point? Secondly, if the case has to do with the casino not paying me my winnings, what does my playing style/ gambling behavior have to do with it? Thirdly, going to court isn't without a case or about something random and general. Is specific. So, suing the casino for "something" is more than general and can't stand anywhere.
So let's give an example. I deposit $100 from a wallet/ bank account/ or any other way the casino allows. Without any problem in my accounts (not dirty/ marked). I play a slot game, and I win $5k. I went to the Cashier to withdraw, but the casino wouldn't let me. I sent them emails, but they didn't reply, or they said to me that I was violating their ToS. We have a dispute, and I believe that they scammed me, so I'm suing them. What will the casino present from my gambling behavior that makes me accountable? Nothing. What does my case have to do with other cases where gambler has suspicious activity? None. In other words, if the gambler is crystal clear, have nothing to fear.
Btw, if the casino presents cases of suspicious activity or any type of violation from any player, the judge will fine the casino for not blocking him and continuing to allow the player to gamble there. Oops!

I believe, that almost nobody reads ToS, and there, I think, there are lines or clauses with very specific info about playstyle. I cant give any example, as ToS are different, but lets suppose gambler is allowed to gamble only from one location. Does everyone follow that? I think everyone play "if I managed to login, then everything is fine with me". That is not 100% right statement, but rather a hypothesis. Secondly, I think that casino monitor and write down gamblers behavior. Example, if you login and start clicking on news or go directly to slots - it is you and your natural behavior. If you start session with checking withdrawal methods, then it might not be you. That is what I have meant with playstyle. You dont pay attention to that, but casino does and have records of your behavior. In court, they might use that against you. They might try to turn case into "it wasnt you that was gambling, so we took decision to cancel all results and ban you", and try to ruin case in court. In theory they can do that. All I wanted to say that casinos are sneaky and will try to find hundred reasons to turn victim into criminal.

I would say that 99.9% of gamblers do skip out on reading up that terms and conditions and who would be wanting to read up that pile of text and trying to find on what are those things on which it is just that always the same with other platforms or companies when it comes to terms and conditions. So they do assume out that its just the same but there those terms that will be totally be used against on a gambler and if you are someone who do violate something and the casinos do focus on that or thrown at you then there's no way that you can have the confidence on fighting back on which you dont even know or even sure on what are those violations and if you cant be so sure on whats happening then you wouldn't be finding yourself that trying out to sue them out not unless if you do have that solid evidence that you have not doing something wrong or stupid against their terms then you can have a fight but if you do saw the amount isnt that something worth that you can fight on then its better to let it go and move on. We do know legal fights wont come cheap and totally put a whole into your pocket but if the amount that we are talking on here is something which is too big then you can totally have that fight as long you do have the money to push on. Just make it sure that you have all of the possible evidences and hadn't violated something then thats whats important.

Let me give a an example how people unintentionally violate rules, parallel doing nothing harmful. You remember that every pool has rules. No jumping and no diving are common rules, as well as there is an instruction how to use pool. There is a lot of text, but it is written, that you need to use ladder to get in the water. Even if you dont dive, jump, but merely take a sit on the edge, but then got in the water, you did not do anything wrong, but still violated pool usage rules. If something goes wrong and you try to sue pool owner, and investigation starts, the way you get into the water might play role in taking final decision in court. What I think is that in ToS (to be honest, I havent read it with magnifier glass) it is written all the steps you need to make to gamble and while gambling. Even though gamblers play how they find it more comfortable for them, they, unintentionally, might break some minor rules. Nothing serious, but might play against you if there are enough tiny rules break.

[Cityhunter34]

I have never sued a casino before, and I would never do such thing in my life, and don't pray to bet on a casino that can not afford to pay my winnings. Because anybody that have been involved in coming layer before can never think of suing a casino because at the end you found out that the money you have loss is double of our winnings. So for me I think is not advisable for a gambler to engage in anything layer for any casinos despite the winnings because a gambler can never compare his funds with that of a casino.

[Botnake]

I have never sued a casino before, and I would never do such thing in my life, and don't pray to bet on a casino that can not afford to pay my winnings.

Sometimes we can’t be 100% sure if the casino we’re betting on can actually pay us when we win, especially on slots or games where there’s a chance to hit a massive multiplier. That’s when the casino really gets tested.

Imagine you're just a regular player, betting $1, then boom, you win $1 million. If the casino is shady, even if they can pay, that amount is huge, and they might pull some excuse like “you broke the TOS” or accuse you of cheating just to avoid paying. Total scam move.

[AVE5]

Majority of us don't really turn this into legal matters because they know this is gambling and every worst can happen, most of them just move on to this one. Also, assume that every casino are also ready when this things are brought to legal matters, they will eventually turn any situation upside down because they have a lot of money to begin with. Even the situation is correct or the right is in your hands, like what I've said, everything is not gonna turn for yourself, you will not gonna win and will really spend a lot of money in legal matters. They will use everything against you as a user of their platform and worst situations like threatening you might happen also.

The case of legal justice requires money as the case maybe that the judiciary is corrupted. So it'd be obliged to know your position and edge giving you the impetus of challenging the casinos in a legal means when you know they've the resources such as legal backups and funds to counter you oppressively.
You also need to rethink about your possibilities of double lost because they the casino cheated on you, sueing them could be another bad failure for you because they're relatively entities in high profiles sectors which are potential to influence you and take justice to themselve then, it turns out a double lost for you.

[CryptSafe]

I have heard of legal battles between gamblers and casinos in the past, and almost all of the cases were won by the casino, and this is just a clear caution sign that even outside the casino platforms, the odds are always in favor of the casino, so what is the point of taking up a legal action against the casino when they know already what it would result to.  Sometimes, it is not all about taking legal action, some matters or situations can be amicably resolved through dialogue between both parties involved, except otherwise.

Suing a casino to court would be the last thing I will do because at first, I gamble for fun and with what I know I can be able or afford to lose if anything goes wrong so suing the casino is of no use to me because I will end up spending money for legal fees and what if the casino is not licensed in my location, then it would require me flying to where the the casino is licensed and getting the services of a lawyer over there for the court actions which would cost me much more and I ask for how much then?

[Sanitough]

Imagine you're just a regular player, betting $1, then boom, you win $1 million. If the casino is shady, even if they can pay, that amount is huge, and they might pull some excuse like “you broke the TOS” or accuse you of cheating just to avoid paying. Total scam move.

I don’t see that happening in my case, since I’ve never encountered a casino offering a 1,000,000x multiplier, so that’s practically impossible. However, I do agree with your point. Even a $100K win would be life-changing for me, and I’d do everything possible to claim it. If necessary, I wouldn’t hesitate to take legal action, provided the costs are reasonable. I might even work out a contingency agreement with a lawyer where we both benefit if the case succeeds.

[Pandu Geddon]

Imagine you're just a regular player, betting $1, then boom, you win $1 million. If the casino is shady, even if they can pay, that amount is huge, and they might pull some excuse like “you broke the TOS” or accuse you of cheating just to avoid paying. Total scam move.

I don’t see that happening in my case, since I’ve never encountered a casino offering a 1,000,000x multiplier, so that’s practically impossible. However, I do agree with your point. Even a $100K win would be life-changing for me, and I’d do everything possible to claim it. If necessary, I wouldn’t hesitate to take legal action, provided the costs are reasonable. I might even work out a contingency agreement with a lawyer where we both benefit if the case succeeds.

If we have confidence that the case that is happening is not our mistake, which means the casino really made a mistake and does not want to pay the winnings obtained, then a decent amount can certainly be considered to continue the case on the legal path.
The note is that we really did not violate any rules. After the case is published, I am sure the casino will also collect more evidence to incriminate our account. It could be related to having multiple accounts, even though the others are inactive.

[MainIbem]

There are people who take gambling as a side hustle, those who don't earn much from their office work or whatsoever, they use their earnings from gambling and add up to whatever they make from their job for survival, you don't expect such people to spend the little they have on hiring a good lawyer that would stand for them in a legal battle, the least they can do is complain on different media platforms to get support from other gamblers or let if go, it takes a very wealthy gambler to file for a lawsuit and win, someone like drake, i don't think the Casino would even want to have an issue with such person, they'll resolve the issues immediately before it even gets to the point of him hiring a lawyer for himself, therefore only a reputable and wealthy person can win a legal battle against a casino, poor and most average people doesn't stand a chance since the cost of a legal battle is very expensive for them, they know that the house would have more edge against them.

[Shinpako09]

Fight back legally? Definitely not. It would be a total waste of time and resources if I did that, especially if it's an online casino based outside of my country. But that doesn't mean I'm going to let it go. I'm going to post it right away here in the forum and provide proof to serve as a warning for others. Also, I'm going to keep on bugging their support nonstop until they give in. Usually, a reputable casino won't make a big deal out of it if it's their fault.

[avp2306]

Imagine you're just a regular player, betting $1, then boom, you win $1 million. If the casino is shady, even if they can pay, that amount is huge, and they might pull some excuse like “you broke the TOS” or accuse you of cheating just to avoid paying. Total scam move.

I don’t see that happening in my case, since I’ve never encountered a casino offering a 1,000,000x multiplier, so that’s practically impossible. However, I do agree with your point. Even a $100K win would be life-changing for me, and I’d do everything possible to claim it. If necessary, I wouldn’t hesitate to take legal action, provided the costs are reasonable. I might even work out a contingency agreement with a lawyer where we both benefit if the case succeeds.

Its provably just an example provided, But if that's really the case I would also sue the casino its a waste of money if we didn't take any action and let that huge money go away to us.

If we know for our selves that we have solid proof then I guess its better to proceed rather than doing nothing since its like we are tolerating those casino to do the same especially if they don't want to pay their winners.

Such amount is really a life changing and provably that same as you I will also do the same since everything will surely worth it especially if we could able to get the money owed by the casino to u.

[Ziskinberg]

If we know for our selves that we have solid proof then I guess its better to proceed rather than doing nothing since its like we are tolerating those casino to do the same especially if they don't want to pay their winners.

Sometimes, if a casino is fraudulent they might simply block your account, so you can't access it anymore. Therefore, to protect yourself, it’s crucial to document everything, take screenshots of your bets, wins, and account activity as proof. However, thorough verification is still needed, which is why proper casino regulation is essential, that said, regulators should have access to audit their systems and confirm whether payouts are legitimate.

It would also be ideal if casinos automatically sent email confirmations for deposits, withdrawals, and placed bets. That way, you could simply screenshot the bet slip with its unique ID, creating solid evidence in case of disputes.

[bakasabo]

If we know for our selves that we have solid proof then I guess its better to proceed rather than doing nothing since its like we are tolerating those casino to do the same especially if they don't want to pay their winners.

Sometimes, if a casino is fraudulent they might simply block your account, so you can't access it anymore. Therefore, to protect yourself, it’s crucial to document everything, take screenshots of your bets, wins, and account activity as proof. However, thorough verification is still needed, which is why proper casino regulation is essential, that said, regulators should have access to audit their systems and confirm whether payouts are legitimate.

It would also be ideal if casinos automatically sent email confirmations for deposits, withdrawals, and placed bets. That way, you could simply screenshot the bet slip with its unique ID, creating solid evidence in case of disputes.

That is impossible to do, to document everything, because you never know when ban strikes you, and gambling with an idea «I will be scammed anytime» is totally wrong. I am not even sure that recording or taking a screenshot will counts court. Casino can parry it with «its fake or photoshop». Also I dont think that casino will allow regulators full access. At least that is not secure.

By answers in this topic, it looks like suing casino is useless, because it is impossible to win.