@theymos, say your mind about Satoshi's identity

[sokani]

I don't know why some persons are hell bent on knowing Satoshi's true identity. Op, I believe you've exchanged private messages with other users on the forum. Does it mean you know their true identity? It's the same case with the admin and Satoshi. Bitcoin brought their paths together, they exchanged mails and when Satoshi wanted to leave, he handed the forum to TM. It does not mean he knows who Satoshi is.

[mindrust]

Does it really matter who satoshi really was? Let’s say theymos told you about satoshi’s identity via private message. Will that information improve your life in any way? Will it change anything? Even if the whole world learns about it, it won’t change a damn thing. It is because that information is irrelevant at this point. Only the code matters, nothing else. the code is open source, working flawlessly. Who cares who satoshi was? I hope we never learn about it as that info will do more bad than good since most people like to focus on the irrelevant stuff.

[PX-Z]

Does it really matter who satoshi really was?

By some point of being curious, yes. But for bitcoin at the current time, satoshi's information doesnt matter anymore. Worst is if he sold his holdings lol.

.., why not we just direct this questionable request of Satoshi's identity to Theymos since he is one known users who started this bitcointalk forum together with Satoshi as parent pioneers before platforms the hidden gem?

Theymos is not one of the founders or one who started this forum together with satoshi. He's just become admin due to some aspects of the past admin to make him one, probably due to trust and theymos' activity wayback.

[EluguHcman]

Does it really matter who satoshi really was? Let’s say theymos told you about satoshi’s identity via private message. Will that information improve your life in any way?

Even with the numerous claims of other person's in and outside of this platform about the revealing of Satoshi's identity, their claims has not been reliable because it does not have verified backup.

So I don't think if it will be that of Theymos proclaim that will be convinceable because as the speculation flies, everyone are just talking hell to how it suits them.

Then it is just high time the crave of those wanting to know who Satoshi is to leg go because it will always end a dream in as much as Satoshi himself never made himself available to be known which thousands of pictures can not guarantee who the Satoshi really is.

[Jegileman]

Dear @Theymos Sir, may you clear the air on your own view of Satoshi's identity?
I guess it will come as simple as "No, you don't know Satoshi". 😁.

Everything I heard about Satoshi, how he came about this bitcoin technology and all the people he had contacted during that period, I have never heard any of them saying they met with him physically. Their discussions were all via emails and everything worked perfectly. I don’t think what you’re asking Theymos is possible he knows the identity of him or how he looks like. Yes, they got in contact online but they never met or know how each other looks like during the period they kept in touch.

[Churchillvv]

So among all the claims none points to Satoshi's true identity not even syrius knows Satoshi even as starting the forum with Satoshi so Theymos who came later would know Satoshi?

And why do you want to know Satoshi ? on what basis are you asking? suspecting Theymos is Satoshi?

You're free to make the deepest research of yours on who Satoshi really is so even Theymos has no clear vision of Satoshi. Hal Finey too had only texted with him so this old guys I have mentioned does know do you think Satoshi knows? and even if he knows do you expect and answer ?.

[mcdouglasx]

Their identity isn’t the important thing; what truly matters is their legacy. I don’t think knowing their identity would lead to anything positive, especially given how society is now, it would just turn into a full-blown witch hunt, like in The Witcher, people eagerly take advantage of Geralt's skills when they need him, but socially, they ostracize him for being a Witcher.

[Stalker22]

~ Theymos since he is one known users who started this bitcointalk forum together with Satoshi ~

No, you are misinformed.  Theymos did not start this forum with Satoshi. I dont know where you got that from?  
He took over later. He is an admin, not a founder. Stop spreading bullshit.

[Davidvictorson]

In my estimation, this information is not needed. I don't think we need to ask the admin that. The forum is already doing great and helping in the progress and adoption of bitcoin. It is very much what it needs to be and how it is meant to be. There are people who have made it their lives course to reveal the identity of the creator of bitcoin but that is a mission that has already failed. Let's let this be okay. We need to have more people know more about bitcoin and that's what we should be all about.

[red4slash]

I can even communicate with you and others here and give some feedback or just share to help each other and communicate about everything without knowing each other's personal identity. This analogy seems similar to what happened for this, even though Satoshi and Theymos may be colleagues who have often communicated before but when the confidentiality of personal data is always the main key where anonymity like this is maintained then it is not impossible that they can communicate without knowing each other's personal selves intensely because in the end the communication that is built is not only about a personal introduction but more towards knowledge and sharing opinions.

Even if you know, of course, as someone who has communicated with Satoshi who always maintains his anonymity, it is also not right for anyone to give a description of Satoshi personally because for me such a thing is not a polite act.
We are all still on the same track, as long as Satoshi continues to maintain his anonymity then why do we dig deeper just out of curiosity because knowing or not about Satoshi's identity will not change anything for now.

[Glowy]

Question from a user I recently referred to this platform.

Here: With all the speculations about the claims of revealing (unsealing) of Satoshi's Nakamoto's identity and the arguments in the forum, why not we just direct this questionable request of Satoshi's identity to Theymos since he is one known users who started this bitcointalk forum together with Satoshi as parent pioneers before platforms the hidden gem?

Who knows if there had been communal connections among them with probabilities to had have clue of each other as they may share same vision in the cryptography on Bitcoin and with his(Theymos) profile and influence in the platform being created by Satoshi himself?

The platform operates on pseudonymous users security identity  from it origin which Theymos may not be privileged to know Satoshi as thought.

With no doubt, even some old folks here may be accommodating  same thought as this questionable discretion for long now. Perhaps it got me a deep thought Which would be better come from the horses mouth.
 
Dear @Theymos Sir, may you clear the air on your own view of Satoshi's identity?
I guess it will come as simple as "No, you don't know Satoshi". 😁.

All being seem silly, my humble apology if the thread may carry disapproval contents to you all.

I think it is entirely irrelevant if his identity is revealed or not. The system has been in place for way too long plus it's running perfectly. So why is identity now an issue?
What difference will his identity revelation make to you or your knowledge of Bitcoin?

I suggest you focus on getting enough information that will help you stay afloat in this space rather than call outs.

[Nwada001]

Here: With all the speculations about the claims of revealing (unsealing) of Satoshi's Nakamoto's identity and the arguments in the forum, why not we just direct this questionable request of Satoshi's identity to Theymos since he is one known users who started this bitcointalk forum together with Satoshi as parent pioneers before platforms the hidden gem?

Where do you buy your history book from? If you are saying Theymos started the forum with the creator, you got the wrong side of the story. Satoshi created the forum in 2009; Theymos's account was created in 2010. Satoshi handled the forum administration till down to 2011, before Sirius took over and later shared the role with Theymos, who later took over the forum after the gradual transition took place between both of them (Sirius and Theymos). There was never a time in history when I read about Theymos starting the forum with its founder.


You have joined the speculators who think few people know about the identity of Satoshi, and even if they do know his identity, what made you think after all these years he will come up now to reveal it? From the onset, everyone was mindful of their privacy; Satoshi knew what he was doing from the beginning, leaving no trace.

The next shit history and theory that the next person is going to come up with very soon is that Theymos is Satoshi.

[Kemarit]

Question from a user I recently referred to this platform.

Here: With all the speculations about the claims of revealing (unsealing) of Satoshi's Nakamoto's identity and the arguments in the forum, why not we just direct this questionable request of Satoshi's identity to Theymos since he is one known users who started this bitcointalk forum together with Satoshi as parent pioneers before platforms the hidden gem?

And to correct you, he Theymos didn't started this forum, Satoshi did, on Nov, 2009 and was the admin until 2011. Sirius takes over and then handed to Theymos in 2012.

Theymos already spoke about the revealing (unsealing) here,

I've rethought this, and I won't be releasing the PMs in 2021. I'm convinced that nobody will ever identify Satoshi no matter what info comes out, so I'm not worried about that, but I am concerned about the privacy of those who communicated with him. For example, kiba once said that he tried to send a gift to Satoshi, but Satoshi declined (reportedly saying something like "I already have plenty of BTC"). If the PMs for this exchange exist in the database and hypothetically look like this:

kiba: Hey, I know it's worth peanuts, but do you want a gift of 10k BTC?
satoshi: lol, no thanks scrub

Then it would put a big target on kiba's back. (This is only a hypothetical example: in reality, kiba never published the amount he offered Satoshi, if any amount was even specified.) Even if I screened the PMs in advance for obvious stuff like this, it's impossible to find everything. Eg. maybe someone who talked to Satoshi was trying to be anonymous, but people are able to find him just based on his writing style or knowledge.

I do think that there could be historically-relevant info in there, so maybe if Bitcoin has taken over the world in like 50 years and historians are clamoring to know more about its history, I or my successors could be convinced to revisit the issue. Or maybe not; don't get your hopes up. (I still haven't read the PMs, BTW; maybe they're all really boring.)

[pooya87]

The curiosity to know something about the identity of the inventor of Bitcoin, this groundbreaking innovation that changed our perception of money and revolutionized the world, is understandable. But we have to keep in mind that Satoshi chose to remain anonymous for whatever reason that is also benefiting Bitcoin (it keeps it even more decentralized as people don't look up to an "authority figure" for every matter), violating that choice is not the right thing to do.

[Catenaccio]

Here: With all the speculations about the claims of revealing (unsealing) of Satoshi's Nakamoto's identity and the arguments in the forum, why not we just direct this questionable request of Satoshi's identity to Theymos since he is one known users who started this bitcointalk forum together with Satoshi as parent pioneers before platforms the hidden gem?

theymos did not start this forum together with Satoshi Nakamoto. Please stop spreading this misleading and inaccurate information.

- I was made a forum admin in 2011, after Satoshi left. (Silk Road also appeared after Satoshi left.) I didn't have any special access to bitcoin.org until around 2013, and in fact I didn't even have any access to the bitcointalk.org DNS until 2013.

It's surprising how well-documented history can become totally forgotten... Satoshi created the forum on Nov 22, 2009, and was head administrator until almost 2011. Then Sirius was head administrator until 2012, which is when I took over.

Cobra also owns the bitcointalk.org domain name. I consider the forum to be basically owned by or at least dedicated to the Bitcoin community, though; I don't call anyone an owner of the forum.

That wiki article is kind of terrible...

If anyone co-started this forum with Satoshi Nakamoto, it's Jeff Garzik, not theymos.

The story of how I became head admin is actually pretty boring. Moderators were needed, so I was made a global moderator. Then admins were needed, so I was made an admin. Then over time the other admins slowly lost interest and resigned until I was the only one left. I guess most of the people who were around here to see this have more-or-less left the community now. That's a bit sad.

It's not entirely clear, but for simplicity I usually say that I became head admin at the beginning of 2011, a little over a year after the forum was created.

The forum was originally located at bitcoin.org/smf, then forum.bitcoin.org (hence the redirect), and finally bitcointalk.org. Fun fact: The name "bitcointalk" was invented by Jeff Garzik, and he's the one who bought the domain.

Satoshi Nakamoto identity
Hal Finney is not Satoshi Nakamoto.
Jack Dorsey is not Satoshi Nakamoto.
COPA vs Craig Wright: The Identity Trial.
I gathered every Satoshi Nakamoto thread.

[Mahiyammahi]

Who knows if there had been communal connections among them with probabilities to had have clue of each other as they may share same vision in the cryptography on Bitcoin and with his(Theymos) profile and influence in the platform being created by Satoshi himself?

Theymos didn't founded this forum it's sirius and sastoshi who did it , and they communicate with crypto graphy mail . You can find out the cryptography mail archive. Also satoshi used anonymous email for it.

I created a topic about these matters , some og members shared their thoughts you can watch my post I pointed some information there.

Some FAQ you might find interested and add your question

[Perfectbaby]

At first, I don't think it's in a position of theymos to answer this question because as we know the forum is privacy forum and there are no options for video calls. Everyone connects and communicated here through comments and pm, so I don't have that full confident that Theymos knows the whereabouts Satoshi. For example you can't tell the identity of those who are in other local board because you only see them around the forum posting, so it's to these two people.

[EarnOnVictor]

Dear @Theymos Sir, may you clear the air on your own view of Satoshi's identity?
I guess it will come as simple as "No, you don't know Satoshi". 😁.

Check the meaning of Privacy, Anonymity, and Rights of people doing them lawfully, theymos owe no one any answer, especially when the person(s) of interest choose to remain as such.

I've pondered why you made this post, and I can't stop laughing. What many people couldn't achieve years back, do you think you can now? Besides, you already suspected an answer to the question (No), so why disturb theymos on this?

I bet theymos's answer is: ignore

[iBaba]

I don't know why some persons are hell bent on knowing Satoshi's true identity. Op, I believe you've exchanged private messages with other users on the forum. Does it mean you know their true identity? It's the same case with the admin and Satoshi. Bitcoin brought their paths together, they exchanged mails and when Satoshi wanted to leave, he handed the forum to TM. It does not mean he knows who Satoshi is.

I also wish I can know the identity of Satoshi, I will be forever grateful because I'm utterly curious about the brain behind this monumental technological development in the 21st century. I understand that his anonymity is best for his security and safety, hence the need to go incognito which I'm very okay and comfortable with, however, I just wish  I could know the brain behind this complex yet simplified field of technology, and possibly learn from him, it will go a long way in inspiring myself and the world around me.

[kotajikikox]

Who knows if there had been communal connections among them with probabilities to had have clue of each other as they may share same vision in the cryptography on Bitcoin and with his(Theymos) profile and influence in the platform being created by Satoshi himself?

The platform operates on pseudonymous users security identity  from it origin which Theymos may not be privileged to know Satoshi as thought.

This is what Theymos has said about how he became the administrator of bitcointalk and I think it can answer some of your questions.

The story of how I became head admin is actually pretty boring. Moderators were needed, so I was made a global moderator. Then admins were needed, so I was made an admin. Then over time the other admins slowly lost interest and resigned until I was the only one left. I guess most of the people who were around here to see this have more-or-less left the community now. That's a bit sad.

It's not entirely clear, but for simplicity I usually say that I became head admin at the beginning of 2011, a little over a year after the forum was created.

The forum was originally located at bitcoin.org/smf, then forum.bitcoin.org (hence the redirect), and finally bitcointalk.org. Fun fact: The name "bitcointalk" was invented by Jeff Garzik, and he's the one who bought the domain.

Dear @Theymos Sir, may you clear the air on your own view of Satoshi's identity?
I guess it will come as simple as "No, you don't know Satoshi". 😁.

You know that you would not get any straight answer so I do not know why you still bothered to ask. If Theymos had any thoughts about satoshi or anything he wanted to reveal about satoshi, he would have done that a long time ago but seeing that he has not then it should be clear that he has no more intentions of answering questions like this.