You lost when selling your bitcoin in hurry. Whalers will always buy.

[Cryptohygenic]

So this thread title Don't feed your bitcoin to the whale inspired me to make this post since the Op did not emphasize on what the his thread title (don't feed your Bitcoin to the whalers) denote at my end, I decided to break it better based on my own view.
Regulation, market sentiments and price theories in the individual units of microeconomic has drastically caused the market dump which most investors are just like they don't know their stance if to sell or keep holding would do them better.
I don't want to talk about investors on emotional control who are resisting the volatile market system that is being manipulated prompting the weaked and minnow Investors to sell their bitcoin while the patient hodlers stays active to take the benefits when the market turns around on price increase.

Awareness: the whalers are always ready to buy your bitcoin anytime and hodls it because the rich always want to stay limited in a cycle of numbers not to see everyone grow rich or equivalent to them so, these whalers sometimes intentionally causes market panic with their large holdings strategically just so you can place your bitcoin on sell and they are always ready to buy and get richer because it is of no doubt that after dump on potential coin like bitcoin comes the pump since bitcoin is a hedge of value not like others that goes dump and dust.
So be sure that those who understands the market well with confidence that it is a store of values are the ones buying your bitcoin assets when you are in hurry to sell due to market price fall.
While your bitcoin is ought to be your greeners ticket in the future and you think selling it at ugly market time will make you a better different after getting your bank account staked of fiats, be reminded that microeconomic news being part of the negative effect on the bitcoin market will be highily effective on your fiat because when their is an economy inflation, there is always traditional currencies crisis where it faces depreciation on value in the international market.

So, don't sell to them instead, hold patiently and in matter of time depending on your goals and assets values, you could imitate them (whalers) or could even be one in the future.

[Churchillvv]

What if I bought at the early stage or at a very cheap price within 10k and bitcoin hits 100k or let's say 90k which it is already in? did I still loss? being rational is also important you can't just underscore every action people take in bitcoin investment.

Holding is very important, yet bitcoin is not just a currency for investment it's also a currency for transaction, if we stop using it for other possible purposes then it's beginning to loss it's core tenants.

Hold the possible yet transactions the possible too.

[Ambatman]

I usually believe that even in a bearish market
You only truly lost when you sold.
Market manipulations most times especially in the direction of bearishness are done to shake out weak hands.
Even if you plan on selling for various reasons just try not to be a nocoiner
And never sell during a dip when you held on during a rally.
This is why it's adviced to invest what you are willing to loss not to be desperate to sell during a dip.

[Sticky Bomb]

We all need to know this,  Bitcoin is a very volatile market and most times largely manipulated by the whales causing intentional dumps in order to catch guys who would panic sale to increase their profits. Although the recent dump was clearly orchestrated by Trump and his tariff action, and we can see the response of the market after the 90 days pause. Investors confidence returned and the market is experiencing a positive correction again.

Those who sold are not really understanding the Bitcoin market, the dump was utilized perfectly by opportunists, especially whales. The bull run isn't yet over and I'll still expect more positive results from Bitcoin going forward. . Those who sold in the dip have my thanks for enriching myself and the whales who bought the dip.

Although I'm aiming at holding for a long-term, but it really feels good to see the market responding positively

[cryptoaddictchie]

So, don't sell to them instead, hold patiently and in matter of time depending on your goals and assets values, you could imitate them (whalers) or could even be one in the future.

Well if someone a retailer got a huge profits. Its normal that he sold it, nothing can change his mind for that. But that sold will lead to a new holder as someone will take his place. With bitcoin volume, I think it will not much truly go down considering how adoption happening therein. There will always be new players to take much pie of the bitcoin supply.

[Mia Chloe]

What if I bought at the early stage or at a very cheap price within 10k and bitcoin hits 100k or let's say 90k which it is already in? did I still loss? being rational is also important you can't just underscore every action people take in bitcoin investment.

Forever hodling is easy to talk about most times ,however in reality it doesn't really play out that way. When you Hodl it's also important to have a target in mind. You may not necessarily sell off all your coins but a fraction of it is still fine. One way or the other it serves as a sort of dividend for a proper hodling session mostly a bull run which usually occurs within 4 years. Sometimes when you Hodl for too long, you end up wishing you had sold at some bull you missed out on.

[Porfirii]

Whales will always buy

I don't know if that will continue being like that forever, but at least for now it seems that you are right. Blackjack, MicroStrategy and other institutional investors keep buying even amidst the uncertainty caused by the tariffs and the Government's recent pressure over the FED, while the USD continues to lose credibility as the reference currency.

Now the news say that even exchanges are seeing how their Bitcoin reserves in deposit go down, due to the accumulation of big investors. So, if you sell now, you know who's hands they're going to end up in.

[HONDACD125]

Forever hodling is easy to talk about most times ,however in reality it doesn't really play out that way. When you Hodl it's also important to have a target in mind. You may not necessarily sell off all your coins but a fraction of it is still fine. One way or the other it serves as a sort of dividend for a proper hodling session mostly a bull run which usually occurs within 4 years. Sometimes when you Hodl for too long, you end up wishing you had sold at some bull you missed out on.

I completely agree with that because I have experienced this just in this cycle when Bitcoin went above $105k, and I didn't sell, thinking that it might go higher, but then it started dropping, dropped to almost $74k, and at that time, I was regretful for why I didn't sell when it was above $105k because if I had done that, I could buy again at $74 and then I could get some more profit when It went higher, and look at the market right now. It's already above $91k, and I would have gotten some more profit by now if I had done that.

Apart from this, so many people can't hold forever because they made their investments with some goals in mind and that they would complete them when the price reaches a certain point. For example, if someone had invested $200 in Bitcoin when it was at $30k, aiming to get at least $600 from it and then withdrawing to do something important, and once Bitcoin went above $100k, their target was officially reached, so they would surely sell and cash out.

[Mpamaegbu]

What if I bought at the early stage or at a very cheap price within 10k and bitcoin hits 100k or let's say 90k which it is already in? did I still loss? being rational is also important you can't just underscore every action people take in bitcoin investment.

That comment of yours there is merit-deserving. I wish I had merit to splash on it. You made a salient point there and that goes out to those who try to shame investors who sell theirs from time to time. We ought to realize that every investor (well, maybe not every one of them) has their target to meet and once price gets there, they sell off to take profit. I've mine too. Sometimes, investors sell off to return to the market at a cheaper price, and not because they're afraid of what's playing out in the market. For those who believe hodling is the ultimate thing, it's not. Hodling doesn't bestow value. We get to know value when something is put out on the market. The real people doing Bitcoin a deserved service are those trading it, not hodlers who are hoarding it.

[albon]

Selling or holding depends on each investor's plan and goals. Each of us has our own price range at which we bought Bitcoin. Some bought at $ 30,000, others at $80,000. Some sold Bitcoin after reaching their predetermined investment goal , while others, like me, are waiting for Bitcoin to hit $135,000 before selling, even if that means waiting several more years.

A long-term investor isn’t concerned with short-term fluctuations that may result from Trump’s reckless decisions, tariff propaganda, and similar events. Those who sell in the short term and in light of the temporary dips may think they’re minimizing their losses and escaping the market with their remaining capital , but in reality, they don’t realize that once they exit their position, whales and other investors will take their place and purchase what they sold at a loss. These buyers will then patiently wait for Bitcoin to recover and return to its previous price and peak.َ

Patience and emotional control are key factors in achieving good profits from Bitcoin. We must imitate the whales and invest with faith, understanding, study the market, and use analysis tools.

[Questat]

They say if you can’t beat your enemy, then at least imitate them. Whales could be our biggest competitors in the market. They target our bitcoins through manipulating the whole market. If we are weak, we will definitely be taken advantage, but if we are wise and smart, we will never be at loss since we won’t fall on panic selling. Know when to buy and sell, so you’ll remain safe from these big whales.

[Wiwo]

Long-term holders can easily go with this advice, since you lose only when  you sell your asset below the amount you bought it, so for sure what determines whether you lose or gain in an investment is, the price at which you sell it off, because you could still hold an asset for a long period and still not gain profits from it, what makes the difference is in the level of scarcity of such assets and how much investors are not willing to sell at low prices.

This is what makes it, a smart thought if you short your position when necessary, what that means is that we cash out our profits immediately after we see them and not wait for long trying to get a 100% profit rohs before we take them.

[Maslate]

Whales will always buy

I don't know if that will continue being like that forever, but at least for now it seems that you are right. Blackjack, MicroStrategy and other institutional investors keep buying even amidst the uncertainty caused by the tariffs and the Government's recent pressure over the FED, while the USD continues to lose credibility as the reference currency.

Now the news say that even exchanges are seeing how their Bitcoin reserves in deposit go down, due to the accumulation of big investors. So, if you sell now, you know who's hands they're going to end up in.

Let’s just admit the fact, whales will always have an edge over us. They have tons of money to accumulate bitcoin at any cost, so that reason alone proves that we can’t get rid of whales. They will do everything to maximize their bitcoin portfolio.

Sell when you know it’s the best time to sell, hold when you know the timing isn’t right. Whales are just behind the corners waiting for our bitcoin, they will take our bitcoin if they see even small chances that will favor them.

[Churchillvv]

What if I bought at the early stage or at a very cheap price within 10k and bitcoin hits 100k or let's say 90k which it is already in? did I still loss? being rational is also important you can't just underscore every action people take in bitcoin investment.

Forever hodling is easy to talk about most times ,however in reality it doesn't really play out that way. When you Hodl it's also important to have a target in mind. You may not necessarily sell off all your coins but a fraction of it is still fine. One way or the other it serves as a sort of dividend for a proper hodling session mostly a bull run which usually occurs within 4 years. Sometimes when you Hodl for too long, you end up wishing you had sold at some bull you missed out on.

There is something called sustainable withdrawal ideas used by most of the old guy (OGs) here in the forum to take profit, the thread was propounded by JayJuanGee (JJG's Bitcoin Investment Ideas (Sustainable Withdrawal / Portfolio Maintenance) hence guys do not find themselves regretting for not taking profits.

So it's possible to hold and at the same times be taking profit when we hit new ATHs.

What if I bought at the early stage or at a very cheap price within 10k and bitcoin hits 100k or let's say 90k which it is already in? did I still loss? being rational is also important you can't just underscore every action people take in bitcoin investment.

That comment of yours there is merit-deserving. I wish I had merit to splash on it. You made a salient point there and that goes out to those who try to shame investors who sell theirs from time to time. We ought to realize that every investor (well, maybe not every one of them) has their target to meet and once price gets there, they sell off to take profit. I've mine too. Sometimes, investors sell off to return to the market at a cheaper price, and not because they're afraid of what's playing out in the market. For those who believe hodling is the ultimate thing, it's not. Hodling doesn't bestow value. We get to know value when something is put out on the market. The real people doing Bitcoin a deserved service are those trading it, not hodlers who are hoarding it.

That's for you kind words here! I also agree with your opinion guys set targets and one needs not to be greedy to skip the targets but however most of the the guys educating us here on how not to sell are likely newbies into bitcoin investment hence do not really know that it means to say "Hodl" hence they misinterpret it to mean not selling at all for a life time.

[notocactus]

"You lost when selling your bitcoin in hurry. Whalers will always buy."

This is not always true and it depends on when you sell your bitcoin and whether whales are ready to buy at the time.

You possibly sell your coins when you want to take profit or when you don't take profit but panic sell even with loss. The first case is more likely when market is bullish, around the top and whales are smart enough to avoid buying there in distribution phase. The second case is likely when whales are ready to buy, because they manipulate market behind the scene and wait for your panic sell to purchase dips.

[Taskford]

So, don't sell to them instead, hold patiently and in matter of time depending on your goals and assets values, you could imitate them (whalers) or could even be one in the future.

Well if someone a retailer got a huge profits. Its normal that he sold it, nothing can change his mind for that. But that sold will lead to a new holder as someone will take his place. With bitcoin volume, I think it will not much truly go down considering how adoption happening therein. There will always be new players to take much pie of the bitcoin supply.

Maybe what he means selling in panic since if that's the case and they are losing their capital for doing that then I guess he's right. But if the seller is already reached on his target years and get already a decent profit for his self then I guess there's nothing wrong for selling their Bitcoin since this is what actually we intend to do. Our target is to get profit so everything seems really fine.

Also maybe if they target Bitcoin for retirement I guess its different story so there would be lots of debates towards this discussion since there's provably different reason will come out here especially people have different intention on why they buy their Bitcoin.

What we really need to avoid is to sell at loss since this is the dumbest decision we provably do.

[Davidvictorson]

HODL.

What we really need to avoid is to sell at loss since this is the dumbest decision we provably do.

I did this once and it was as a result of panicking that made me do it. It I couldn't even live with myself for making such a dumb move. I lost so much that I knew that it will take me some time to recover what I had lost as a result of that mistake.
This is why I tell beginners that  the market will test your resolve and if you had invested the money that you couldn't afford to lose, you will lose it twice if your inpatience forces you to sell in a hurry because of the market fluctuations.

[Zaguru12]

Forever hodling is easy to talk about most times ,however in reality it doesn't really play out that way. When you Hodl it's also important to have a target in mind. You may not necessarily sell off all your coins but a fraction of it is still fine. One way or the other it serves as a sort of dividend for a proper hodling session mostly a bull run which usually occurs within 4 years. Sometimes when you Hodl for too long, you end up wishing you had sold at some bull you missed out on.

The thing is knowing when to sell off your bitcoin is even part of three strategy of a good investor, I keep telling people the worst investor is one who holds blindly and doesn’t have any plan of when to sell and when to simply hold. Sometimes selling even make guy hold more with diamond hand. Can we say Microstrategy is a weak hand because they also sell off too. I can remember him buying aggressively during the bearish year of 2022 and then selling off some in 2023 with the report then about him covering up some loans which is a great strategy.

Sometimes you will sell off when your profit target has been reached to Carter for some of your needs, this play will eventually even give you freedom to hold for long or even buy back later, so there have never been any wrong with selling if it is done in profit

[Publictalk792]

I usually believe that even in a bearish market
You only truly lost when you sold.
Market manipulations most times especially in the direction of bearishness are done to shake out weak hands.
Even if you plan on selling for various reasons just try not to be a nocoiner
And never sell during a dip when you held on during a rally.
This is why it's adviced to invest what you are willing to loss not to be desperate to sell during a dip.

That is really good and common way of thinking about investing especially when Bitcoin is there that can go up and down a lot.  You are right that sometimes people try to trick market to make price go down so that people who are easily scared will sell. If you believe in what you invested in it is smart to hold on during these times. And I agree with you that we should only invest money that we can afford to lose and that will not effect on our daily life. This way we can not feel desperate to sell when price goes down. Overall this is smart and practical way to deal with times when market is not doing well.

[OcTradism]

That is really good and common way of thinking about investing especially when Bitcoin is there that can go up and down a lot.  You are right that sometimes people try to trick market to make price go down so that people who are easily scared will sell. If you believe in what you invested in it is smart to hold on during these times. And I agree with you that we should only invest money that we can afford to lose and that will not effect on our daily life. This way we can not feel desperate to sell when price goes down. Overall this is smart and practical way to deal with times when market is not doing well.

If you invest long term, DCA and let Bitcoin as well as the market do their own jobs. You only have to purchase, store your bitcoin safely in non custodial wallets, and wait for time bringing profit to your investment portfolio.

If you want trading, personally waiting for market dips to buy and open your trade position (with only Spot) is better strategy than just buying and waiting for price rising higher. Mostly after dips, price will bounce and it's enough for your trade position to be profitable. Buying in normal days (non dip days), you will have to wait with more uncertainty about chance of getting profit.