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April 24, 2025, 11:17:55 AM
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Yeah, we hope no drop for the price and only increase although that is for a little by little. We need to happy to see what happen to Bitcoin as the price now is back to $90,000 level but you need to be careful because the price get another correction.

Long term holder will take the benefit of their Bitcoin investment because in this current situation, they will just buy back more to increase their Bitcoin amount. They will not wait for longer to buy because they can miss that chance if they delay it.

If holder can still hold their Bitcoin and not panic with the current situation, maybe the market will not shaking to the lower price. The price can sustain in the current price and wait for the time to increase.

If the hodler is smart - then he will patiently wait a bit more. It won't hurt anybody, after all.

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April 24, 2025, 11:29:24 AM
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Wow, this is really great information to know.

More holders mean growing trust in Bitcoin. Even though there have been some downtrends, more people are still committed to long-term holding. I think this helps strengthen Bitcoin, and maybe we won’t see those massive dumps like we’ve seen in the past.

This movement is probably being led by institutional investors. Their actions likely give individual investors more confidence to hold, especially since they don’t panic easily. It’s normal for Bitcoin to have sharp drops, but just like what happened earlier this year - it almost dropped to $60K, and now we’re back around the $90K range. Looks like we’re entering a bullish phase again. (hoping...)

I’m not the best at reading charts, but you can check it out from this source.



https://www.coindesk.com/markets/2025/04/24/long-term-bitcoin-holders-show-commitment-buy-more-btc-than-short-term-holders-sell

and these are also the the information we should know abou the topic.

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Long-term investors' holdings have increased by 635,340 BTC since January, absorbing more than what's been distributed by short-term holders, at a 1.38:1 accumulation ratio.

Despite a rebound in the bitcoin price, 2.6 million BTC remain at a loss reflecting lingering overhead resistance from investors who bought above $95,000.

The market condition isn’t good right now. Altcoins are dropping more than they’re pumping that’s why Bitcoin feels safer. Many big investors are holding Bitcoin instead of buying Altcoins, Which makes it seem that way. Since a Bull run might coming soon, Bitcoin could see an even better pump that’s why many are choosing Bitcoin as a safe option and holding it.

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April 24, 2025, 11:34:39 AM
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The market condition isn’t good right now. Altcoins are dropping more than they’re pumping that’s why Bitcoin feels safer. Many big investors are holding Bitcoin instead of buying Altcoins, Which makes it seem that way. Since a Bull run might coming soon, Bitcoin could see an even better pump that’s why many are choosing Bitcoin as a safe option and holding it.

Most alts follow BTC, so it's no wonder we should look into BTC more to see the overall mood on the market - there is even an index created for that exact matter.

So Bull should be knocking heavily in the near future.
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April 24, 2025, 12:08:04 PM
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The market condition isn’t good right now. Altcoins are dropping more than they’re pumping that’s why Bitcoin feels safer.
Honestly, I don’t really care what happens to altcoins anymore as most of them are scams at this point. From the very beginning, it’s always been clear that Bitcoin would dominate the market. It’s the most legit and trustworthy coin out there.

I don’t even like comparing the stock market to the entire crypto market, because altcoins are part of crypto, and they just drag Bitcoin down when they crash. The real comparison should be stock market vs. Bitcoin - or anything else we want to measure against Bitcoin alone.

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April 24, 2025, 12:21:13 PM
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I believe it’s currently on pause for now. let’s see if that tariff war picks up again. But honestly, I don’t think this whole tariff war will affect Bitcoin that much. The long-term investors trust it because they believe fiat money might lose value or get hit hard by inflation but Bitcoin won’t. That’s what I believe too.
Trump only postponed his high tariffs and as far as I remember the delay was about 3 months if I'm not mistaken, in my opinion if the tariff war happens again the price of bitcoin will be affected temporarily like before, I'm pretty sure there will be weak hands that are affected and panic and then sell it, that's natural because not all investors have strong determination but we all know that even though there is economic uncertainty bitcoin can still survive because the supply of bitcoin is limited even if the price drops bitcoin will return to its position and create a new ATH.

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April 24, 2025, 01:06:44 PM
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I believe it’s currently on pause for now. let’s see if that tariff war picks up again. But honestly, I don’t think this whole tariff war will affect Bitcoin that much. The long-term investors trust it because they believe fiat money might lose value or get hit hard by inflation but Bitcoin won’t. That’s what I believe too.
Trump only postponed his high tariffs and as far as I remember the delay was about 3 months if I'm not mistaken, in my opinion if the tariff war happens again the price of bitcoin will be affected temporarily like before, I'm pretty sure there will be weak hands that are affected and panic and then sell it, that's natural because not all investors have strong determination but we all know that even though there is economic uncertainty bitcoin can still survive because the supply of bitcoin is limited even if the price drops bitcoin will return to its position and create a new ATH.
Long term holders are not bothered about tariff war starting again after the Trump, 90 days rolls by, they trust the potentials of Bitcoin to have a correction and rally after every dump. We are in the bull run and any minor setback will have to be temporary but weak hands will always offload which will create an opening for smart investors to increase their bags, that is how it has always been. No doubt that long term holders are the strength of Bitcoin because they create more scarcity in the market, which will result in sustained increase in price. Having in mind that Bitcoin has limited supply more people are trusting it as a hedge against inflation on fiat currencies and as they hodl it the value will keep increasing.

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April 24, 2025, 01:25:09 PM
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I believe it’s currently on pause for now. let’s see if that tariff war picks up again. But honestly, I don’t think this whole tariff war will affect Bitcoin that much. The long-term investors trust it because they believe fiat money might lose value or get hit hard by inflation but Bitcoin won’t. That’s what I believe too.

Bitcoin is still a speculative asset like the stock market, unlike gold. So, not just the tariff war, any event that impacts and destabilizes the economy can negatively impact it in the short term. It's inevitable, but in the long run, the currency will recover and grow again, so if the tariff war continues. We should see this as an opportunity to accumulate more bitcoin, not a time to fear or complain...

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April 24, 2025, 01:48:24 PM
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in my opinion if the tariff war happens again the price of bitcoin will be affected temporarily like before,...
That’s probably what’s going to happen, but the thing is, a tariff war has a permanent negative impact on any country involved, and it stays that way until there’s change.

But Bitcoin? Despite all that, it won’t be affected in the long run. It always finds a way to recover. And we have to remember that there’s always news or events that can push Bitcoin’s price up. Once that happens, the hype starts, and the bull run kicks in again.

The ones who’ll really benefit are those holding long-term, no doubt about that.

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April 24, 2025, 01:54:58 PM
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It’s easy to become a solid hodler if you will just check the price chart because the price keeps growing despite dumping hard because hodler keeps accumulating whenever the price dip.

Unlike shitcoin that usually the huge supply of token was owned by team member and other expenses distribution, Bitcoin is 100% distributed to hodlers since Satoshi Bitcoin is already considered as dormant for a long time.

Bitcoin supply is genuinely distributed that’s why hodler can easily benefits because no one wants to sold while the demand is increasing.


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April 24, 2025, 01:57:03 PM
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It’s not just long term holders that are vital to the strength of Bitcoin. It’s easy to hold when the price is good & in a bullish phase. What gives strength to the market is people who hold with conviction & add to their Bitcoin holdings when the price isn’t so good. Bitcoin needs buyers & holders both old & new to enable price discovery.
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Bitcoin is still a speculative asset like the stock market, unlike gold. So, not just the tariff war, any event that impacts and destabilizes the economy can negatively impact it in the short term. It's inevitable, but in the long run, the currency will recover and grow again, so if the tariff war continues. We should see this as an opportunity to accumulate more bitcoin, not a time to fear or complain...

I will rather say bitcoin is regarded as speculative but not truly, bitcoin stands just like gold in my opinion, it’s more of a digital gold but just that it is volatile and it’s this volatility that has made many people to see it as a speculative asset if not it is not. Bitcoin long term holders are always those who are on the profit side because no matter how bitcoin volatility changes it always pumps up after a very long time. Even this current economic crisis caused by tariff hikes I think if it keeps prolonging bitcoin will definitely not follow its path of actually going down but will certainly find balance and pumps up, this is because amidst this tariff challenge many will need a currency for long term hold or store of value and that’s where bitcoin comes in

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Bitcoin is still a speculative asset like the stock market, unlike gold. So, not just the tariff war, any event that impacts and destabilizes the economy can negatively impact it in the short term. It's inevitable, but in the long run, the currency will recover and grow again, so if the tariff war continues. We should see this as an opportunity to accumulate more bitcoin, not a time to fear or complain...

I will rather say bitcoin is regarded as speculative but not truly, bitcoin stands just like gold in my opinion, it’s more of a digital gold but just that it is volatile and it’s this volatility that has made many people to see it as a speculative asset if not it is not.
Yes, it's decentralized, it has a limited supply...it has all the makings of a safe haven asset like gold. But we have to accept the fact that it is very volatile, dumped in an unstable economy or manipulated. That means it's not a safe haven yet. I don't know if that will change in the future, but for now, it's a speculative asset whether you admit it or not.

Bitcoin long term holders are always those who are on the profit side because no matter how bitcoin volatility changes it always pumps up after a very long time. Even this current economic crisis caused by tariff hikes I think if it keeps prolonging bitcoin will definitely not follow its path of actually going down but will certainly find balance and pumps up, this is because amidst this tariff challenge many will need a currency for long term hold or store of value and that’s where bitcoin comes in

No one is denying its potential in the long run, what I am talking about is just in the short term and it tends to be the opposite of gold or to put it bluntly it is not yet the digital gold we think it is.


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Bitcoin continues to grow in popularity as a reliable asset for long-term investors. However, I am not sure that long-term investors are necessarily institutional investors. It could be Bitcoin enthusiasts who've gained BTC in the past and/or Bitcoin miners, small entrepreneurs.
As for the chart, there are still more short-term holders, even though the gap is getting smaller.

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April 25, 2025, 05:30:57 PM
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It is indeed true. Of course, if you hold Bitcoin for a long time, you can make a profit. Those who bought Bitcoin in 2020 are now the owners of a lot of money. And those who buy now, I hope that after 10 years, it will be like this. So I have decided to buy Bitcoin every month for 50 to 100 dollars per down. If I keep buying like this for 10 to 15 years, I will definitely be able to spend my old age happily. I will not think about selling, I will only think about buying. One day, this Bitcoin will be my strength.
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I don’t even like comparing the stock market to the entire crypto market, because altcoins are part of crypto, and they just drag Bitcoin down when they crash. The real comparison should be stock market vs. Bitcoin - or anything else we want to measure against Bitcoin alone.
the only way altcoins drag bitcoin is when they don’t do well or they end up as scams and now the general perception of cryptocurrency is bad but does it drag bitcoin’s value? not much especially if the altcoin we are talking about is not that famous from the start and didn’t have much followers so it wouldn’t be enough to drag bitcoin’s price down
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April 25, 2025, 05:49:36 PM
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Every four years, a Bitcoin cycle occurs and this happens all the time. So when the price of Bitcoin is low, you should definitely buy and hold Bitcoin at that time. Because whoever misses that opportunity will miss the opportunity of that cycle. Because no matter how much the price of Bitcoin decreases, it will create a new ATH again. This is true, this is always seen. So those who still cannot trust Bitcoin or are afraid of seeing the price of Bitcoin low, Bitcoin investment is not for them.

You don't have to do much research to invest in Bitcoin. Just by looking at the all-time chart of Bitcoin, you can understand how much potential Bitcoin has and how strong it is to recover from any condition.

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I find it crazy that they consider "long term" being a "155-day threshold".  155 days is just over 5 months which is very short term in my book.  Of course perhaps they find it of some value in that definition but I really don't see it. 

Pretty much anyone who has owned bitcoin for > 6 months now is ahead of the game.  Certainly anyone who has owned it for more than 9 months is ahead, and the longer you've been involved and not panicked or not sold, the better you have done. 
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The only holders that matter, or that have enough power to influence the price of Bitcoin are self-custody holders who earn their bitcoins/money morally. For example $100 morally earned bitcoin is worth more than $1, 000,000 bitcoins stolen by its holder. So, when it comes to price influence from Bitcoin holdings, more regards should be given to clean bitcoins than dirty ones. The dirty ones are like balloons, they are not weighty enough to tilt or affect a scale so much.

It's important to self-custody all/most of the bitcoins you earned "lawfully". And self-custody means you are in control of your private keys.


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IMO the Bitcoin market is a bit of a learning curve. A lot, possibly the majority of newbies
succumb to either FONO and/or FUD in the early stages of their journey and after making
mistakes they come to realise a long term or minimum medium term outlook is necessary
to become comfortable with the market.

When that happens they become HODL'ers and realise the market does its thing
and HODL'ing takes practice but eventually there is great comfort in it.

HODL'ers are certainly part of the strength of Bitcoin along with traders, developers, nodes
and services.


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Yes, it's decentralized, it has a limited supply...it has all the makings of a safe haven asset like gold. But we have to accept the fact that it is very volatile, dumped in an unstable economy or manipulated. That means it's not a safe haven yet. I don't know if that will change in the future, but for now, it's a speculative asset whether you admit it or not.


I will agree with you that we can’t take out the volatility feature of bitcoin out but right now I think bitcoin stands a chance of not been regarded as a speculative asset again or probably in the coming future. First case scenario is analyzing the volatility rate of bitcoin last few years back and the volatility now you will see that is reducing gradually, last two halvings one can easily predict a 5x from previous all time high but right now it is not possible to have such in a space of four years, same goes to it dumping so with the volatility reducing bitcoin can be said to be more of a store of value  than a speculative one

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