What can we consider this type of post as? Plagiarism or soft plagiarism?

[Fivestar4everMVP]

Well, no long talks but I came across this comment in one of the threads on gambling discussion board and I didn't like it, I feel the user is simply doing this to meet his post quota rather than contributing meaningful to what is being discussed on the thread...


https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5539461.msg65324105#msg65324105

The user copied the first line of his comment from the comment that he quoted, and then added a few more stuffs to the comment to make it a bit longer, possibly to try to get his comment to the minimum number of characters required so the post qualifies for payment.
Remove the first line he copied from the other user, and what he has left is almost a one-line sentence/comment.

"The budget method is very simple.
Put a cap on your spending, as it goes. i don't know, you decide to spend 100 dollars a month, if you win and you have 200 you can play that If you lose everything in a week, we'll talk about it next "

[Hazink]

I have come across a situation so many times in the gambling board where someone wants to quote and reply to someone but drops the quote as a reply again below the comment. In some cases, they add it together with their contribution. If I recall correctly, I have sent a private message to some of them, and they made corrections to the post.

I can also think the same way in this case, whereas the accused might be trying to quote and reply with the exact words which they added to their comment, for example.

Allowing a big loss is already a big problem, because it says that the player is not able to manage his budget wisely.

The budget method is very simple.Put a cap on your spending, as it goes. i don't know, you decide to spend 100 dollars a month, if you win and you have 200 you can play thatIf you lose everything in a week, we'll talk about it next month.

But this is just what I think and could be wrong about it..

[logfiles]

Looks like he has been doing this for a long time, and he knows exactly what he is doing (not innocent). I would suggest you report him for plagiarism and text spinning, and also to the campaign manager with about 3 or 4 examples. If he doesn't get banned, he will at least get booted out of the signature campaign for that kind of shit posting

Here are more examples

We can say that we can spend money on entertainment but gambling can never be a source of income. Some people can win a lot because they are lucky but it cannot be considered as income. Gamblers who dream of getting rich by earning money from gambling are rather giving their money to others who are making them rich as you said. Money can be lost in gambling if it is under control. Those who manage their gambling under control will lose money for entertainment. But those who take it as a source of income they lose more. When it comes to gambling, those who are aggressive in their attempts to win more will lose more.

We can say that we can spend money to have fun, but gambling can never be considered a source of income. i keep repeating this because i play poker myself but with friends for fun spending nothing. i have fun and i am in company.
I know very well that those few euros that i put as prize money are the price to pay to have fun

Those who are somehow prone to ludomania, at the moment when they lose certain material or virtual values, there is an acute desire to win back. Therefore, everything is logical, someone's assets in stocks/bonds or cryptocurrencies sagged, they start looking for options on how to get them back. And then comes the idea that you can do it with the help of gambling. And some people try to drown out their stress by gambling.

Those who are somehow inclined to gambling addiction, when they lose certain material or virtual values, there is an acute desire to recover them. Obviously this pushes them to play even more and the more they lose, the more they play.
These are well-known psychological techniques used to trick players. So be careful.

I simply don't understand why anyone would think an AI would be able to predict the result of a game.

AI is not some magical tool, and furthermore, the tools we use are just collecting and interpreting information, here is absolutely nothing different between what they are doing and what a bookie or a punter is doing they're analysing the team, the matches, and information on the internet about it and draw a conclusion based on patterns, surprise this is what the timeform thing is and this is what people have been doing before not AI but computers where even invented.

If AIs were able to predict anything remarkable, the first ones to rely on would be the bookies, then, well the people who built those would be gambling millions and either you would see bookies out of business or nobody would bet since bookies would offer lower than average odds since they know what the result would be.
But since nothing like this happens, that is proof enough AI is garbage at predicting stuff.

I just don't understand why anyone would think that an AI could predict the outcome of a match.
If you play to win money you can think so and betting to win money is wasting time and money from the start.
No one can predict things, so play for fun and leave these things aside.

[_act_]

Some people are only using the gambling board and also some other boards to spam. Most threads longer than 3 pages are full of spam already, not to talk of a thread that is already 10 pages long.

What he even added to it is not having any meaning to it. Very possible he plagiarized the remaining parts of it on another on the same thread or on a post on another thread. It would be good if someone can find out about this user.

He is also doing some rewording.

[Wiwo]

I just quote the comment as reference, and I think that not only this user that does this act but alot of other gambling board spammers are also doing this, majorities of time I just report the post and spam but sometimes the moderators can be overworked on  the board and never treat my report.

But good of you to have open this thread up for discussion and possible tags.

[Hazink]

Looks like he has been doing this for a long time, and he knows exactly what he is doing (not innocent). I would suggest you report him for plagiarism and text spinning, and also to the campaign manager with about 3 or 4 examples. If he doesn't get banned, he will at least get booted out of the signature campaign for that kind of shit posting

And here I was giving the user the benefit of the doubt, but when something has been repeatedly done a couple of times, it's no longer considered to be a mistake but an intentional act by the person, either due to the fact that they think they won't be noticed.

[nutildah]

I feel the user is simply doing this to meet his post quota rather than contributing meaningful to what is being discussed on the thread...

This is 90% of the posts in the Gambling Discussion section. A lot of the time people are just rewording posts immediately above it. If you ever want to read 10 similar summaries of the same soccer/cricket match, then this is a great place to hang out.

But yeah. These are absolute shitposts and should be reported as spam.

This one is definitely plagiarism:

Allowing a big loss is already a big problem, because it says that the player is not able to manage his budget wisely.
...

Allowing a big loss is already a big problem, because it shows that the player does not know how to manage his budget wisely.
...

[Pablo-wood]

xenomorfo seem not be good in expressing in English. From the merit history provided it shows the user is more fluent in lingua italiana because almost all the merit gotten in the last 120 days is from the users local board. My observation is that in the Italian local board the user doesn't spam or plagiarize. I believe the reason for plagiarism in the gambling section is just to meet up with the weekly quota and it's still an offense.

 

[YOSHIE]

I also pay attention to users of @xenomorfo, he also does the same thing repeatedly.

I haven't seen anyone be able to do that, we always blame ourselves despite what the outcome of the bets are. When the bets is successful, we blame ourselves for not putting more money in the bet and when we lose, we blame ourselves too. Blaming ourselves is the way we deal with the decision that we took while gambling. Some people blame others and refuse to take the blame for their actions hence when we find ourselves in the situation that we're blaming ourselves then it's a good thing because we're not running away from our responsibility as most people always do. The blames aren't bad but we shouldn't overdo it so if doesn't discourage us from making bets in the future. Blaming yourself is only going to improve you as you'll want to do better while making future bets.

I've never seen anyone actually be able to do that.
When the bet is successful, we blame ourselves for not having bet more, and when we lose, we also blame ourselves.
The main problem is wanting to win trying to dominate fate when you can't. The solution: understand that you can't win and that you have to play for fun.

Trying to double the bet in the long term I think it is not effective to do, although there will be a different sensation but if done continuously, it will be easy to quickly experience losses. But if only done occasionally this method is a natural thing but we must also always check the amount of capital available to bet

Trying to double your bet in the long term is not effective, as stated elsewhere in other posts, they are techniques studied at the table to push you to play, more and more and more money.
You don't have to fall into these traps, just think of gambling as a pastime.

Those who are somehow prone to ludomania, at the moment when they lose certain material or virtual values, there is an acute desire to win back. Therefore, everything is logical, someone's assets in stocks/bonds or cryptocurrencies sagged, they start looking for options on how to get them back. And then comes the idea that you can do it with the help of gambling. And some people try to drown out their stress by gambling.

Those who are somehow inclined to gambling addiction, when they lose certain material or virtual values, there is an acute desire to recover them. Obviously this pushes them to play even more and the more they lose, the more they play.
These are well-known psychological techniques used to trick players. So be careful.

There's no doubt about it. Personally, I've always said one thing: when it comes to luck, anything can happen to us, not just in casinos, even in a lottery, We never know when we're lucky. Although, to be honest, there's one thing that has always surprised me: a friend always wins raffles. He has a lot of cars thanks to raffles, When he won two cars and one truck, I told him that the highest probability of winning was for those who have always won.

I told him to keep playing, because statistics and probabilities suggest he'll always have a better chance of winning than everyone else. I don't know why, but he's Continued to do so, and yes, he's won more cars. It's incredible how he has that luck, and the probability and statistics back him up.

There is no doubt, i agree with you. When it comes to luck, anything can happen, not only in casinos, but also in the lottery and in real life especially, in work and friendships, everywhere.
For example, i am not, not at all, i mean lucky. Just have fun in my opinion when i play with friendz

If checked almost all @xenomorfo posts in the gambling section copy like that.

[Findingnemo]

xenomorfo seem not be good in expressing in English. From the merit history provided it shows the user is more fluent in lingua italiana because almost all the merit gotten in the last 120 days is from the users local board. My observation is that in the Italian local board the user doesn't spam or plagiarize. I believe the reason for plagiarism in the gambling section is just to meet up with the weekly quota and it's still an offense.

Campaign requiring a minimum number of posts in the English is not an excuse to plagiarize and it is cheating in my opinion if the user is incompetent of posting in English and posting someone else's work as their to get paid deserves tag? There are campaigns which doesn't limit local board users; that is the right way instead of copy-paste, word spin, posting AI, or gibberish, which makes no sense.

It deserves ban since the user is doing it on purpose.

[logfiles]

This is 90% of the posts in the Gambling Discussion section. A lot of the time people are just rewording posts immediately above it. If you ever want to read 10 similar summaries of the same soccer/cricket match, then this is a great place to hang out.

You are right. Most do not have any sport or gambling Knowledge. Just trying to meet the minimum post quotas set by the campaigns they participate in. Unfortunately, the campaign managers seem to be overwhelmed by a lot of campaigns and posts. How I wish they would weed out those useless posts/posters and deny them spots/payments.

Or perhaps we should have three Frodocooper kind of moderators over there to put the board back to sanity 

xenomorfo seem not be good in expressing in English. From the merit history provided it shows the user is more fluent in lingua italiana because almost all the merit gotten in the last 120 days is from the users local board. My observation is that in the Italian local board the user doesn't spam or plagiarize. I believe the reason for plagiarism in the gambling section is just to meet up with the weekly quota and it's still an offense.

He should not force himself into posting in boards he is not conversant with, or even participating in campaigns that require him to post in the gambling board.

[The Cryptovator]

Since he is copying some part directly, it means it's plagiarism. If he change words and rewrite the quote then it is soft plagiarism. Both are punishable I think from forum moderation. You can report on the Meta plagiarism thread as well, so mods would handle it if they missed to notice from this thread.

If we look deeply, we may find more such users in the gambling section. It's because each gambling company that has been running a signature campaign demands a minimum post in the gambling section. So to fill the gambling quota, participants start spamming there, including copy-pasting. Either companies should understand the reality and not force participants, or otherwise we will have to see such spams around there.

[uchegod-21]

This one is definitely plagiarism:

Allowing a big loss is already a big problem, because it says that the player is not able to manage his budget wisely.
...

Allowing a big loss is already a big problem, because it shows that the player does not know how to manage his budget wisely.
...

Yes, it is . I think when I was in the university, I have come across a rule that says, it is plagerism when you copy upto 5 words verbatim.

[xenomorfo]

Yes, it is . I think when I was in the university, I have come across a rule that says, it is plagerism when you copy upto 5 words verbatim.

guys i read this
I'm not very good at English.. what did I do wrong? I didn't copy anything at all
I simply translated what I wanted to say and maybe I always say the same things for goodness sake.

Well, no long talks but I came across this comment in one of the threads on gambling discussion board and I didn't like it, I feel the user is simply doing this to meet his post quota rather than contributing meaningful to what is being discussed on the thread...


https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5539461.msg65324105#msg65324105

The user copied the first line of his comment from the comment that he quoted, and then added a few more stuffs to the comment to make it a bit longer, possibly to try to get his comment to the minimum number of characters required so the post qualifies for payment.
Remove the first line he copied from the other user, and what he has left is almost a one-line sentence/comment.

"The budget method is very simple.
Put a cap on your spending, as it goes. i don't know, you decide to spend 100 dollars a month, if you win and you have 200 you can play that If you lose everything in a week, we'll talk about it next "

I talk about the budget method in many of my posts
look at the story, very simple for the rest

the budget method that I read in a women's magazine and used by me to avoid spending too much is great for helping those who have problems with gambling addiction
just decide on an amount to spend per month and don't go over it, nothing more complicated I recommend it continuously since I have seen many people ruin themselves with gambling

just last 3
- https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5533245.msg65313580#msg65313580
- https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5536346.msg65263635#msg65263635
- https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5536346.msg65252130#msg65252130

[stadus]

guys i read this
I'm not very good at English.. what did I do wrong? I didn't copy anything at all
I simply translated what I wanted to say and maybe I always say the same things for goodness sake

That’s the problem when you’re not aware of your mistakes, just FYI your post was flagged for possible plagiarism.
It’s understandable if English isn’t your first language, but if you’re not comfortable with it, why post outside your local board?

That’s where issues start, even if it’s an honest mistake. But a mistake is still a mistake.
In the end, it’s up to the mods to decide if it was plagiarism, and if proven, the punishment is usually a ban.

[xenomorfo]

guys i read this
I'm not very good at English.. what did I do wrong? I didn't copy anything at all
I simply translated what I wanted to say and maybe I always say the same things for goodness sake

That’s the problem when you’re not aware of your mistakes, just FYI your post was flagged for possible plagiarism.
It’s understandable if English isn’t your first language, but if you’re not comfortable with it, why post outside your local board?

That’s where issues start, even if it’s an honest mistake. But a mistake is still a mistake.
In the end, it’s up to the mods to decide if it was plagiarism, and if proven, the punishment is usually a ban.

you're right I apologize, I'll try to be better with English
ok mod can decide, if decide ban is ok for me

waiting for the mod to decide I greet you all with love if I get banned I will have no way, thanks for making the world a better place with bitcoin and with this forum

 

[examplens]

guys i read this
I'm not very good at English.. what did I do wrong? I didn't copy anything at all
I simply translated what I wanted to say and maybe I always say the same things for goodness sake

If you're already asking what you're doing wrong.
Your posts are ordinary spam; the fact that you partially copy someone else's post is done only to make what you write visually look like more text. Not a good strategy in the long term.
You need to change your approach to the forum and how you write. Also, don't write consecutive posts (edit the previous one), it's against the forum rules.

[xenomorfo]

guys i read this
I'm not very good at English.. what did I do wrong? I didn't copy anything at all
I simply translated what I wanted to say and maybe I always say the same things for goodness sake

If you're already asking what you're doing wrong.
Your posts are ordinary spam; the fact that you partially copy someone else's post is done only to make what you write visually look like more text. Not a good strategy in the long term.
You need to change your approach to the forum and how you write. Also, don't write consecutive posts (edit the previous one), it's against the forum rules.

yes i do only for start conversation, not for copy text of people
I don't even intend to bother you, it's clear that I didn't understand and I was wrong, if I deserve a punishment I gladly accept and I apologize
you are right, I made a mistake and now I understand the mistake

patience, I'll just read it to you, it's not a problem

[examplens]

yes i do only for start conversation, not for copy text of people
I don't even intend to bother you, it's clear that I didn't understand and I was wrong, if I deserve a punishment I gladly accept and I apologize
you are right, I made a mistake and now I understand the mistake

patience, I'll just read it to you, it's not a problem

If you have already quoted a certain post, it is completely unnecessary to repeat any part.
You're not bothering me, there's always an ignore option. Although it's unclear how you even thought it was useful for anyone to read the same text over and over again.

[Helena Yu]

guys i read this
I'm not very good at English.. what did I do wrong? I didn't copy anything at all
I simply translated what I wanted to say and maybe I always say the same things for goodness sake

This is not about your English, I can write in my local language and translate it using Google translate or other tools, I'm sure it will be different than the post I quoted. I admit that I might repeat what the @OP or other user post, let's say the user ask "what will you do in this case?", I repeat by saying "what I will do? bla bla bla".

It's either you intentionally committing plagiarism, or you simply don't really know what you should write, hence you repeat what the user have posted.

I don't even intend to bother you, it's clear that I didn't understand and I was wrong, if I deserve a punishment I gladly accept and I apologize
you are right, I made a mistake and now I understand the mistake

It seems you have deleted your replies instead of the moderators? but that's okay and we're allowed to do that, you may want to check other of your post to correct your mistakes.