Edit: Created flag, please consider supporting if you agree with me, based on the evidence provided by both sides. This casino has to be called out and stopped. They must not get away with it with their reputation intact.
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust;u=3675233What happened:: Hello. First time posting here, since i never had any real problems with any casino so far. That changed on the 27th of april. I requested a withdraw, which was declined 30 seconds later. 10 seconds after being declined i was logged out of my account, and, when trying to sign in again, i got this message: "Your account has been blocked, please contact support". I checked my email, and notice there was an KYC request. I sent everything they requested 30 minutes later. Today, after 9 days of waiting, i finally got a response.
"Thank you for sending your documents over to us.
Your betting behaviour was flagged as suspicious by our Sportsbook provider and upon further investigation of both your account and betting activities with our Sportsbook provider, it was determined that you have breached our Terms and Conditions.
For this reason, your account that is registered to this email address will be closed permanently. All the funds and pending bonuses have been forfeited.
We understand that this is not the outcome which you were looking for, but our decision on the matter is final and we will not engage in further correspondence regarding this subject.
Best regards,
Betpanda Support Team"
This is a lie, and a scam. I am 100% certain i did not breach any terms and conditions, and my betting behavior is not suspicious at all. They are just hiding behind the provider to be able to steal money from people.
Scammers Profile Link: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=3675233Amount Scammed: 18.2mbtc/1550€
Proof of Payment: https://www.blockchain.com/explorer/transactions/btc/4717e8efee4f76fa41876b49f409c0cd149fba45b0f1ed9a3c7d9d13859f695bPM/Chat Logs: Nothing worth screenshoting, live chat just kept saying they couldn't do anything and to wait for security team, and security team ignoring me for 9 days. The email i copy/pasted above is the only response by betpanda.
Additional Notes: I created my account on 22/09/2024. I also created a complaint on casinoguro, which was completely useless as they wouldn't take my complaint. Here's the link if you're interested
https://casinoguru-int.com/en/betpanda-casino-player-s-account-is-closed-and-withdrawalAs a final note, i know very likely won't be seeing this money, but at least i am doing my part on exposing this scamstain of a casino.
THREAD TLDR: Before the scam: I have registered at betpanda in 22 of september 2024. I played there for about 2 months and was able to make 2 withdrawals, both with values superior to the one in this thread.
The scam: On 23 of march 2025, i have made a 2.5mBTC deposit at betpanda.
https://www.blockchain.com/explorer/transactions/btc/4717e8efee4f76fa41876b49f409c0cd149fba45b0f1ed9a3c7d9d13859f695b . I played sportsbook only. I have accumulated winnings of 18.2mBTC, and on 27th of april 2025, i requested a withdrawal. My account was logged out 10 seconds after the request, and banned. They then requested i do KYC. I sent the requested documents within 30minutes, and after 9 days of waiting the finally respond with an email stating:
"Thank you for sending your documents over to us.
Your betting behaviour was flagged as suspicious by our Sportsbook provider and upon further investigation of both your account and betting activities with our Sportsbook provider, it was determined that you have breached our Terms and Conditions.
For this reason, your account that is registered to this email address will be closed permanently. All the funds and pending bonuses have been forfeited.
We understand that this is not the outcome which you were looking for, but our decision on the matter is final and we will not engage in further correspondence regarding this subject.
The betting history: Over the course of my time playing at betpanda, i have bet exclusively on high tier Dota 2 matches. Example:
https://gyazo.com/d11906989ca1123fa50224edfdcae2b1https://gyazo.com/155953218b7b3fe2225513bf472ad328https://gyazo.com/065991a4c742bdfd47d12ca4c4676836During this time i played at 3 more betby books simultaneosly. The bets are exact mirrors in all books. I was simply spreading the total stake. These 3 screenshots cover roughly 3 weeks of my entire betting history at betpanda.
The betby scapegoat: Betpanda claims the decision to ban and confiscate my winnings, was from the provider(betby). Which s a lie. And here is why. As stated above, i played at 3 more betby casinos simultaneosly with the exact same bets as i did at betpanda. Here are the casinos:
Cryptoleo:
https://gyazo.com/7368c44cfd009ae93aec6843c81023d6Fortunejack:
https://gyazo.com/1518b995f7e55d3218488a08d5438efeWSM:
https://gyazo.com/f3648e37023248c2ddaf07989cf60647As you can see, i was able to withdraw my funds from these casinos that share the same bets as betpanda. Without any issue and with completed KYC. And if you check the dates, post-betpanda ban.
Duel:
https://gyazo.com/5a25974e508b414e190a998fb9b4c156Coins.game:
https://gyazo.com/530c69b2d30c585dfb3a77689274b1c72 extra to demonstrate that betby doesn't actually care about me. I was flagged/limited in all of them. All of them paid.
If it was only a provider decision, why do other casinos with the same provider continue to approve my withdrawals? Some of those with the exact same bets as betpanda? Why are my funds confiscated, and my account banned only at betpanda?
Betpanda's statement: Hello,
Apologies for the delayed reply.
We can assure you that there is no "scam" occurring here. The player in question has breached the following clause from our Terms and Conditions.
We don't have any requirement to divulge more detailed information under these circumstances, but for the sake of clarity and as a gesture of goodwill, please find the details which we can share below:
5. ANTI-FRAUD POLICY
In the interests of fair play, it is not permitted to utilise or deploy any novel or recognised betting techniques while using our services which are designed to circumvent the standard house edge in our casino games nor the sportsbook. Should we detect that You have engaged in any activity of this nature, we may immediately suspend, terminate or restrict access to Your Account and/or retain any funds on the account.
As you can see, the betting techniques which you used breach the above and as a result, the funds were retained. What the events or the bets were doesnt matter, the fashion in which the bets were placed, does.
Please note that any suspicious betting activity is flagged to us by our sportsbook provider Betby, they carry out the investigations and provide us with the outcome. In this particular instance, the suspicious bets were placed right at the same moment when the event occurred or extremely close to it. I'm only able to provide you with as much details as Betby shares with us, and this is the extent we receive.
If you have any further questions, we are happy to answer them, but the decision on the matter is final.
Hello,
We are of course not in a position to comment on what the procedures of other casinos are, what their terms look like or what their policy is when a user breaches their Terms and Conditions.
However, the actions taken by Betby would strongly suggest to us that the suspicious betting behaviour the player was investigated for initially was/is calculated and systematic.
If this behaviour would indeed be coincidental and by chance as they claim, they wouldn't have been limited across all the operators, only at Betpanda.
Therefore we would like to reiterate that we are not a "scam" as is falsely claimed, but simply acting upon suspicious behaviour suspected and investigated (and now confirmed) by our sportsbook provider as per our Terms and Conditions.
We have brought this up several times internally with senior management and with all the information which has been made available to us through various mediums, we are not in a position to offer a refund due to the aforementioned reasons.
We do understand that this is not the outcome you were looking for, but the substantial action taken by Betby validated our suspicions and cemented their decision.
Hence, Betpanda considers the matter closed.
Closing statement: As you can see, betpanda's representative is as vague as possible. He talks about "suspicous betting behavior" and "recognized betting techniques". He states that me being limited at other betby books, is justification to confiscate my fairly won money. Yet he fails to explain that even tho i was limited, i was always paid. Same bets, same provider. My betting history is at full display. Let me know if you think they are suspicious. This is the classic play scam casinos often use, which is use the player being flagged as a justification for wins confiscation. When the flag is simply profiling winning players. The immediate consequence of a provider's flagging, is being limited. And that's completely fine. But when you press the withdrawal button, it's up to the casino. And confiscating fairly won money, is not fine. Their "anti-fraud policy" clause is predatory. They claim "value betting" is illegal, which basically means you are not allowed to win. To use sportsbook at betpanda you have to shut off your brain, bet like an ape, and hope you lose. Because if you win, consistently, you're value betting. And your funds will be confiscated.
If you reached this far and agree i was treated unfairly, please consider supporting the flag: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust;u=3675233If you have is any questions, shoot.