[UNRESOLVED] Betpanda.io SCAM 18.2mBTC - Flag created, consider supporting.

[T1HGO]

Bump because they shouldnt be able to get away with it

Thanks for the bump.

Unfortunately it seems they already got away with it.
Mister holydarkness already marked it as "resolved" due to undeniable proof i broke ToS from betpanda. /s

Maybe i should update the tittle tho, the value is now 1850€ due to bitcoin value going up these last days.

[haircombint]

Bump because they shouldnt be able to get away with it

Thanks for the bump.

Unfortunately it seems they already got away with it.
Mister holydarkness already marked it as "resolved" due to undeniable proof i broke ToS from betpanda. /s

Maybe i should update the tittle tho, the value is now 1850€ due to bitcoin value going up these last days.

The bitcointalk mods are deleting some of my posts exposing betpanda too. They will end up streisand effecting it

[T1HGO]

For the past few days, i have been exchanging emails with Askgamblers to take my case.
Unfortunately they won't.

Here's what they said:
https://gyazo.com/5bedb0daa39510dbd9419c884925c068
https://gyazo.com/86dabd0396fbac46d8d844071c99ab2c

So, at this point, i am out of options.
Evil has won.

[Lisa12345]

For the past few days, i have been exchanging emails with Askgamblers to take my case.
Unfortunately they won't.

Here's what they said:
https://gyazo.com/5bedb0daa39510dbd9419c884925c068
https://gyazo.com/86dabd0396fbac46d8d844071c99ab2c

So, at this point, i am out of options.
Evil has won.

Who is the real owner of BetPanda?

[haircombint]

For the past few days, i have been exchanging emails with Askgamblers to take my case.
Unfortunately they won't.

Here's what they said:
https://gyazo.com/5bedb0daa39510dbd9419c884925c068
https://gyazo.com/86dabd0396fbac46d8d844071c99ab2c

So, at this point, i am out of options.
Evil has won.

Who is the real owner of BetPanda?

No one knows! That's the funny part. The Bitcointalk shill campaign says Betpanda is an anonymous casino, even though they constantly ask for users' KYC info. It turns out the only thing anonymous about Betpanda are the owners! 

[bettingfede1998]

For the past few days, i have been exchanging emails with Askgamblers to take my case.
Unfortunately they won't.

Here's what they said:
https://gyazo.com/5bedb0daa39510dbd9419c884925c068
https://gyazo.com/86dabd0396fbac46d8d844071c99ab2c

So, at this point, i am out of options.
Evil has won.

Who is the real owner of BetPanda?

No one knows! That's the funny part. The Bitcointalk shill campaign says Betpanda is an anonymous casino, even though they constantly ask for users' KYC info. It turns out the only thing anonymous about Betpanda are the owners! 

yes crazy story

[T1HGO]

Since this thread has been resurected, i think it's worth mentioning i opened a case against betpanda at lcb.org.
No success. They keep claming the same bullshit without proving any claim. Here's the thread for anyone interested.

https://lcb.org/onlinecasinobonusforum/player-complaints/betpanda-io-account-issue

[nutildah]

Who is the real owner of BetPanda?

No one knows! That's the funny part.

BetPanda is owned by Star Bright Media which is a company registered in Costa Rica under registration number 3-102-880000. They also operate two other casinos. Nothing about their business registration practice is out of the ordinary compared to most other crypto casino companies.

If legal proceedings were brought against BetPanda, then the owners would have to disclose themselves. But this has never happened (there is no public record of anyone attempting to sue BetPanda).

Since this thread has been resurected, i think it's worth mentioning i opened a case against betpanda at lcb.org.
No success. They keep claming the same bullshit without proving any claim. Here's the thread for anyone interested.

https://lcb.org/onlinecasinobonusforum/player-complaints/betpanda-io-account-issue

In your final comment on Sept 5 you wrote, "I challenge these scammers to come in here and state which rule of ToS i broke exactly." But they already did that back in May:

5. ANTI-FRAUD POLICY

In the interests of fair play, it is not permitted to utilise or deploy any novel or recognised betting techniques while using our services which are designed to circumvent the standard house edge in our casino games nor the sportsbook. Should we detect that You have engaged in any activity of this nature, we may immediately suspend, terminate or restrict access to Your Account and/or retain any funds on the account.

[haircombint]

BetPanda is owned by Star Bright Media which is a company registered in Costa Rica under registration number 3-102-880000. They also operate two other casinos. Nothing about their business registration practice is out of the ordinary compared to most other crypto casino companies.

Nice job cropping out the part of my quote where I provide evidence for the false advertisement in your signature. Where is Star Bright Media even mentioned online or tied to betscamda? My guess is you only know they own betscamda because that's the name on the paychecks they give you for 30 pieces of silver.

Fuck off, Nutella Man.

[T1HGO]

Since this thread has been resurected, i think it's worth mentioning i opened a case against betpanda at lcb.org.
No success. They keep claming the same bullshit without proving any claim. Here's the thread for anyone interested.

https://lcb.org/onlinecasinobonusforum/player-complaints/betpanda-io-account-issue

In your final comment on Sept 5 you wrote, "I challenge these scammers to come in here and state which rule of ToS i broke exactly." But they already did that back in May:

5. ANTI-FRAUD POLICY

In the interests of fair play, it is not permitted to utilise or deploy any novel or recognised betting techniques while using our services which are designed to circumvent the standard house edge in our casino games nor the sportsbook. Should we detect that You have engaged in any activity of this nature, we may immediately suspend, terminate or restrict access to Your Account and/or retain any funds on the account.

[/quote]

Wow, amazing detective work! And yet you fail to mention i posted my (almost) entire bet history from the 1 month playing at betpanda.

For anyone wondering and curious about, what bets i placed, here are almost all of them in the past month.

https://gyazo.com/d11906989ca1123fa50224edfdcae2b1
https://gyazo.com/155953218b7b3fe2225513bf472ad328
https://gyazo.com/065991a4c742bdfd47d12ca4c4676836

Now, according to betpanda's email, i breached the their ToS with these bets. Do they seem "suspicous" like they claim? I don't think so.

Maybe it's not enough, maybe i should reveal what colour my underwear was that day, or if i took a shit that morning or not. Since you seem so knowledgeable on the matter, tell me where did i "utilise or deploy any novel or recognised betting techniques while using our services which are designed to circumvent the standard house edge in our casino games nor the sportsbook". You come in here copy paste their vague garbage like that shit has any meaning to it.

[nutildah]

Where is Star Bright Media even mentioned online or tied to betscamda?

A bunch of places, including the BetPanda website. Of course your end goal isn't to understand anything but to just shit on this casino as hard as you can. The only reason I bothered is so you can't mislead others so easily. You should throw in some more death threats, maybe that will help.

You come in here copy paste their vague garbage like that shit has any meaning to it.

All I'm doing is pointing out that they already provided you with the terms of service they said you violated. It seems like you forgot.

[haircombint]

A bunch of places, including the BetPanda website. Of course your end goal isn't to understand anything but to just shit on this casino as hard as you can. The only reason I bothered is so you can't mislead others so easily. You should throw in some more death threats, maybe that will help.

Regardless, the casino owners themselves are still anonymous, and the casino's customers are not, which proves your shilling campaign is false advertising. Death threats? It's Kino Dogme 2007.

[T1HGO]

Where is Star Bright Media even mentioned online or tied to betscamda?

A bunch of places, including the BetPanda website. Of course your end goal isn't to understand anything but to just shit on this casino as hard as you can. The only reason I bothered is so you can't mislead others so easily. You should throw in some more death threats, maybe that will help.

You come in here copy paste their vague garbage like that shit has any meaning to it.

All I'm doing is pointing out that they already provided you with the terms of service they said you violated. It seems like you forgot.

I don't know why you thought i forgot such baseless statements, but i did not. Also all i did was pointing out i provide proof to my claims, unlike your masters, that it seemed like you missed/forgot.

[haircombint]

I don't know why you thought i forgot such baseless statements, but i did not. Also all i did was pointing out i provide proof to my claims, unlike your masters, that it seemed like you missed/forgot.

He is a gimp slave to his betpanda masters. Eventually his Betpanda slavemasters WILL be sent to prison but they will be in good company there because they already have a prison prag bitch to join them. His name is Nutella Man.

[bettingfede1998]

betpanda scam everyone and i see adv everyday here, sadly

[haircombint]

Remember everyone, if you a paid a BetPanda shill enough, he would tattoo that stupid fuckin' green panda on his forehead.

[T1HGO]

Funny to see the cases against betpanda like this one, were mediated/handled by a betpanda shill. Honestly, i'm not even surprised, it actually makes sense now.

[Rating Place]

Who is the real owner of BetPanda?

No one knows! That's the funny part.

BetPanda is owned by Star Bright Media which is a company registered in Costa Rica under registration number 3-102-880000. They also operate two other casinos. Nothing about their business registration practice is out of the ordinary compared to most other crypto casino companies.

If legal proceedings were brought against BetPanda, then the owners would have to disclose themselves. But this has never happened (there is no public record of anyone attempting to sue BetPanda).

Since this thread has been resurected, i think it's worth mentioning i opened a case against betpanda at lcb.org.
No success. They keep claming the same bullshit without proving any claim. Here's the thread for anyone interested.

https://lcb.org/onlinecasinobonusforum/player-complaints/betpanda-io-account-issue

In your final comment on Sept 5 you wrote, "I challenge these scammers to come in here and state which rule of ToS i broke exactly." But they already did that back in May:

5. ANTI-FRAUD POLICY

In the interests of fair play, it is not permitted to utilise or deploy any novel or recognised betting techniques while using our services which are designed to circumvent the standard house edge in our casino games nor the sportsbook. Should we detect that You have engaged in any activity of this nature, we may immediately suspend, terminate or restrict access to Your Account and/or retain any funds on the account.

Would you just stop. He didn't break any rules. Betpanda can quote whatever they want. They need to show proof. They are a scam sportsbook.

[T1HGO]

Hey. I've created my own tier list of all the casinos i've played over the years, inspired by @Rating Place's casino tier list.

Note: This MY OWN personal experience, and it's very likely you might disagree in some casinos.
These ratings are based on sportsbook only, E-sports mainly and some normal sports like football and basketball. I have never touched the casino games.

Since i don't know where else to post this, i will be reviving this thread, as i think it's pointless to create a new thread with this. I did this for fun, and also to take a jab at betpanda, because it really puts things into perspective.

In all of the casinos below, i have made at least one withdraw.

A-tier
Thunderpick.io (If you're looking for a place to bet on e-sports, this is the place. For regular sports, the odds are not good compared to many other casinos and the markets are very limited. However i can't speak highly enough about this casino. I've recently been asked to complete KYC, and i went smoothly, and pretty quickly, and paid 5 minutes after.)
500.casino (The best bonuses i've ever seen. During my time playing there, with their weekly and monthly vouchers, combined with catching rains in chat, i was legit making over 500€ a month just by playing. Amazing. And the KYC was super smooth and quick aswel.)
Old Nitrogensports/nitrobetting 2020-2022 (This casino was goated. A truly anonymous casino. Always paid within a few minutes. Funny story, when they were changing from nitrogen to nitrobetting, back when both were still up, they offered me 5mbtc without any conditions + a one time only bonus of deposit of 1 to 20mbtc with a 1x rollover. All of this just to migrate my nitrogen account to nitrobetting early.)
Duelbits.com (Very reliable. Had probably the biggest win of my "betting career" here. When came the to withdraw, i was so nervous, because it was a huge ammount. I can say the time between requesting the withdraw, completing KYC, and receiving the funds in my account was less than 40 minutes. Goated)


B-tier
wsmcasino.vip (Nothing much to say, quick payout, quick and easy KYC, great bookie)
Fortunejack.com (Pretty much the same as WSM)
gamdom.com (Fast payouts, great bookie, nothing much to say, sadly can't play there anymore since they changed ToS recently, which made my country not available anymore).
whalegames.gg (So far has been pretty good, only thing i could complain about is the odds compared to other casinos)
Cryptoleo.com (Same as fortunejack and wsm.)
sportbet.one (So far, fast payouts and the bookie is pretty good.)
coins.game (Legit. Although the KYC took 4 days to complete, i have to say i was always paid quickly and the support chat is pretty nice.)
weissbet.online (Not much to say, quick and easy KYC, fast payouts, good book. My only complain is having a 3x rollver deposit to withdraw.)
Rainbet.com (What i said about gamdom can be applied here.)

C-tier
bc.game (Nightmare KYC level, lasted 1 week to be limited to the ground.)
crashino.com (Very easy KYC, legit site, but took me 1 month to get all of my money out of there because of the low withdrawal limits per month.)
rollbit.com (Nightmare KYC level, but always got paid.)
Brunocasino.com (Legit, but slow payouts, and slow KYC.)
Betplay.io (Super low limits compared to other betby casinos. But always paid.)
Tower.bet (Same as Brunocasino, slow KYC, slow payout.)
csgoempire.com (Same as betplay, low limits, but always paid fast.)
riobet.com (The only site that actually scared me with a deposit, took 2 hours to credit my deposit. Slow KYC, slow payout.)
vavegame.net (If you're into e-sports, do not come here, terrible sportsbook, super low limits. Always paid tho.)
metaspins.com (If the sportsbook wasn't so bad, it would be B-tier, fast and easy KYC and fast payouts.)
wolf.bet (Exactly the same as metaspins.)
Rollhub.com (Decent book, but limits too quickly, otherwise, fast and easy kyc and payouts)
dexsport.io (Same as Rollhub, after 1 day was limited to the ground.)
bets.io (Same as metaspins and wolf.)
Rocketpot.io (This casino had something peculiar. It didn't process payouts during the weekends lol. If you requested an withdawal friday night, you would only get paid monday morning, but if you requested during weekdays, it would be like 6 hours. Sadly they removed sportsbook and is now a casino only site.)
1xbit.com (The infamous casino. I cannot complain, as during my time there, i was always paid within SECONDS, probably the fastest paying casino i've ever played at. And i can say the ammount was almost 2x the ammount betpanda stole from me. Honestly i have no complains, but i am aware of their reputation. Didn't even ask for KYC.)
ole7.com (Same as 1xbit pretty much.)

D-tier
chips.gg (This site was actually really good before their 3 week maintenence, which they changed leadership. After that was a nosedive decline from there. I was imposed a withdrawal limit of 10x the ammount wagered, so for example if i wanted to withdraw 1000€ i would need to wager 10000€ on the last 28 days. Insane, other than that, KYC quick and easy and fast payouts.)
megadice.com (This is what i like to call "KYC dancers". They are just dancing around an the documents you provide are never enough or not valid. When asking for proof of adress, declined a government issued document and a bank statement for 2 months. Going against their own Tos. After a complain to casinoguru out of nowhere i receive an email saying my documents have been accepted magically after 2 months. Got paid tho.)

Scam tier
Betpanda.io (What else is there to say about this one that hasn't been said. The only casino to ever scam me. Not even 1xbit or ole7.)

TBD
2up.io

[Rating Place]

Hey. I've created my own tier list of all the casinos i've played over the years, inspired by @Rating Place's casino tier list.

Note: This MY OWN personal experience, and it's very likely you might disagree in some casinos.
These ratings are based on sportsbook only, E-sports mainly and some normal sports like football and basketball. I have never touched the casino games.

Since i don't know where else to post this, i will be reviving this thread, as i think it's pointless to create a new thread with this. I did this for fun, and also to take a jab at betpanda, because it really puts things into perspective.

In all of the casinos below, i have made at least one withdraw.

A-tier
Thunderpick.io (If you're looking for a place to bet on e-sports, this is the place. For regular sports, the odds are not good compared to many other casinos and the markets are very limited. However i can't speak highly enough about this casino. I've recently been asked to complete KYC, and i went smoothly, and pretty quickly, and paid 5 minutes after.)
500.casino (The best bonuses i've ever seen. During my time playing there, with their weekly and monthly vouchers, combined with catching rains in chat, i was legit making over 500€ a month just by playing. Amazing. And the KYC was super smooth and quick aswel.)
Old Nitrogensports/nitrobetting 2020-2022 (This casino was goated. A truly anonymous casino. Always paid within a few minutes. Funny story, when they were changing from nitrogen to nitrobetting, back when both were still up, they offered me 5mbtc without any conditions + a one time only bonus of deposit of 1 to 20mbtc with a 1x rollover. All of this just to migrate my nitrogen account to nitrobetting early.)
Duelbits.com (Very reliable. Had probably the biggest win of my "betting career" here. When came the to withdraw, i was so nervous, because it was a huge ammount. I can say the time between requesting the withdraw, completing KYC, and receiving the funds in my account was less than 40 minutes. Goated)


B-tier
wsmcasino.vip (Nothing much to say, quick payout, quick and easy KYC, great bookie)
Fortunejack.com (Pretty much the same as WSM)
gamdom.com (Fast payouts, great bookie, nothing much to say, sadly can't play there anymore since they changed ToS recently, which made my country not available anymore).
whalegames.gg (So far has been pretty good, only thing i could complain about is the odds compared to other casinos)
Cryptoleo.com (Same as fortunejack and wsm.)
sportbet.one (So far, fast payouts and the bookie is pretty good.)
coins.game (Legit. Although the KYC took 4 days to complete, i have to say i was always paid quickly and the support chat is pretty nice.)
weissbet.online (Not much to say, quick and easy KYC, fast payouts, good book. My only complain is having a 3x rollver deposit to withdraw.)
Rainbet.com (What i said about gamdom can be applied here.)

C-tier
bc.game (Nightmare KYC level, lasted 1 week to be limited to the ground.)
crashino.com (Very easy KYC, legit site, but took me 1 month to get all of my money out of there because of the low withdrawal limits per month.)
rollbit.com (Nightmare KYC level, but always got paid.)
Brunocasino.com (Legit, but slow payouts, and slow KYC.)
Betplay.io (Super low limits compared to other betby casinos. But always paid.)
Tower.bet (Same as Brunocasino, slow KYC, slow payout.)
csgoempire.com (Same as betplay, low limits, but always paid fast.)
riobet.com (The only site that actually scared me with a deposit, took 2 hours to credit my deposit. Slow KYC, slow payout.)
vavegame.net (If you're into e-sports, do not come here, terrible sportsbook, super low limits. Always paid tho.)
metaspins.com (If the sportsbook wasn't so bad, it would be B-tier, fast and easy KYC and fast payouts.)
wolf.bet (Exactly the same as metaspins.)
Rollhub.com (Decent book, but limits too quickly, otherwise, fast and easy kyc and payouts)
dexsport.io (Same as Rollhub, after 1 day was limited to the ground.)
bets.io (Same as metaspins and wolf.)
Rocketpot.io (This casino had something peculiar. It didn't process payouts during the weekends lol. If you requested an withdawal friday night, you would only get paid monday morning, but if you requested during weekdays, it would be like 6 hours. Sadly they removed sportsbook and is now a casino only site.)
1xbit.com (The infamous casino. I cannot complain, as during my time there, i was always paid within SECONDS, probably the fastest paying casino i've ever played at. And i can say the ammount was almost 2x the ammount betpanda stole from me. Honestly i have no complains, but i am aware of their reputation. Didn't even ask for KYC.)
ole7.com (Same as 1xbit pretty much.)

D-tier
chips.gg (This site was actually really good before their 3 week maintenence, which they changed leadership. After that was a nosedive decline from there. I was imposed a withdrawal limit of 10x the ammount wagered, so for example if i wanted to withdraw 1000€ i would need to wager 10000€ on the last 28 days. Insane, other than that, KYC quick and easy and fast payouts.)
megadice.com (This is what i like to call "KYC dancers". They are just dancing around an the documents you provide are never enough or not valid. When asking for proof of adress, declined a government issued document and a bank statement for 2 months. Going against their own Tos. After a complain to casinoguru out of nowhere i receive an email saying my documents have been accepted magically after 2 months. Got paid tho.)

Scam tier
Betpanda.io (What else is there to say about this one that hasn't been said. The only casino to ever scam me. Not even 1xbit or ole7.)

TBD
2up.io

This is really good information. Bring it over to my thread if you want more eyes on it. I'm missing a couple and will update.