Do You Think Slot Games Could Ever Be Made Skill-Based?

[DragonSlots]

I’ve seen a lot of YouTube videos talking about “How do you know when a slot machine will hit?” Some videos give misleading strategies (just to bring more players to their affiliate links), while others answer this question in a simple and strict way: IT'S IMPOSSIBLE.
Personally, after years around this stuff, I can say it straight as well: you don’t. It’s random, and it always has been.
I’ve tried several strategies over time, like flat betting, Reverse Martingale, the gamble feature on small wins, and yes, some of them can make things more fun or help stretch your bankroll. But none of them "crack the system."
The best move I ever made? Setting hard limits and treating it as entertainment, not income.
Not only that, but sometimes the smartest strategy is what I prefer to call the 'Careful Man ' approach: just don’t play at all when you feel unlucky or when you’ve been losing continuously in a short time. At that point, you need to do something else because I can guarantee you’ll feel no fun, only regret, if you insist on playing.
By the way, you can find a list of slot machine myths that you must avoid at any cost:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5539526.msg65313775#msg65313775
(This list is for beginners to help them start playing on a solid basis)

Now I have a question for you my friends: If you could design your own slot machine, what twist would you add to make it more skill-based?

[Dunamisx]

I’ve seen a lot of YouTube videos talking about “How do you know when a slot machine will hit?” Some videos give misleading strategies (just to bring more players to their affiliate links), while others answer this question in a simple and strict way: IT'S IMPOSSIBLE.

When we take a look on what slot game is all about, then we are going to discover that its all about luck and not skill, so i will go along with others that support the same that its impossible, because as we already know, when playing slots, you often experience house edge over your bet and you continue to have fun in playing base on precession and randomization on the slot machine and as we know this as well, everything works with luck.

[Dave1]

It will not be called a slot machine if it will be made skill based though. We have seen since the inception of slot machines, there's not much change except that it become so much visually good and it's based on themes.

But as far as being skill based? I think it will lose it's aura from the playing public. And for sure this has been conceptualized before but it didn't gain that much traction. So let it be, let that slot machines be luck based so that everyone will still enjoy it.

[Charles-Tim]

Now I have a question for you my friends: If you could design your own slot machine, what twist would you add to make it more skill-based?

We are talking about making money and not about skill based are what casino games are. The machine will be in a way that people can enjoy the game and lose more of their money with the house edge. They can learn the skills, but when they come to gamble, they can win but most chance would be losing for them. I will have the machine to make money from gamblers and not give them money. But sometimes it would be in a way that one or two people will make like 10% from the 100% made from the customers.

[Davidvictorson]

Slots cannot be skill based. Skill based casino games that the ones that you have to play against another gambler. In doing so you will naturally develop different strategies that will ensure that you are able to beat the other person because it is a competition. And in competition, it is the most skillful person who wins. On the other hand, in casino games like slots your result is already determined by the algorithm and nothing different can be done..I don't even think of designing a skill based slot, it will take always the fun and uncertainty attached to it.

[lovesmayfamilis]

Who will benefit from the invention of such a slot machine? Are you, as a casino owner, ready for some smart guy to take part of the money, and a decent part of the money, from your business, acting "strategically"? I think, on the contrary, casinos have equipment that allows them to track the suspicious activity of such smart guys and block them for template actions. It is high time to understand that if a casino loses regularly, the casino closes. It will live only as long as the owner makes a good profit.

[danherbias07]

It's true. It's impossible. There is no such thing as strategy when it comes to slots. Might as well go to the flow and let it run, enjoy the images as they connect and maybe you will hit a good multiplier at some point.

Now about the question. I think first thing I will do as a slot provider is to take out that low amount winnings at free spins. It's called free spins for a reason, they are not cheap when bought so the result should at least be near the bought amount or over it. Make it difficult to claim in grinding but make it worth it if they receive it. That way, more gamblers will keep on playing while there's a bit of profit for me.

[qwertyup23]

I think this would defeat the purpose of slots to begin with.

Remember that slots are one of those games that you can literally brain-dead play. You put your wager, assign on how many pulls you would want, then you just push the lever at the end. After that, you pray and wish that you would get bonus spins, multipliers, and additional rewards per spin.

If a gambling company would somehow innovate the game of slots by providing another layer by applying skill to increase to odds of winning, then I do think that it would defeat the purpose on why slots were created in the first place. Slots were created in order to have a quick game and to just test your luck as a whole.

It's true. It's impossible. There is no such thing as strategy when it comes to slots. Might as well go to the flow and let it run, enjoy the images as they connect and maybe you will hit a good multiplier at some point.

Now about the question. I think first thing I will do as a slot provider is to take out that low amount winnings at free spins. It's called free spins for a reason, they are not cheap when bought so the result should at least be near the bought amount or over it. Make it difficult to claim in grinding but make it worth it if they receive it. That way, more gamblers will keep on playing while there's a bit of profit for me.

I also agree with your statement.

Assuming that a gambling website manages to put a skill-based factor in their slot game, that would take a relatively long amount of time before a person would pull the lever. This would completely destroy the purpose of slots to begin with.

[swogerino]

Slot machines can never be made skill based, the only skill based game we have is poker and you need a huge amount of patience plus a good amount of luck to be successful there too, so it is like 60% skill and 40% luck and you can be a consistent winner there if you have the level of patience required to be a consistent winner. The slot machines are designed, are by design to make the house profitable, meaning they will always be programmed with that in mind and the algorithm will make sure that this will happen over the long run, the house to be in profit, what is also known as house edge, ranging from 1 to 5% most of the cases. Therefore do whatever it takes, you can never crack such systems unless you find a bug or flaw and you exploit it which is totally illegal and can put you in big trouble.

[Z390]

Slot is one of the most easiest casino game out there and this makes it also the most dangerous game too, there is no skill in slot because there is no any opponent to go to battle with, you can't read how the game works.
I think casinos makes more money through games like this than others, because it's player vs the machine or say game provider, there is a high chance that you will lose all your money playing slot.
Sport games are much more better but I still prefer slot anyway, slot teaches me how to be patient, it also teaches me how to manage bankroll, it is the type of game where you need to risk piece by piece or instantly lose everything.
The only skill any gambler can use against slots is risking money you don't need, some amount will cause you pain if you risk them, make sure isn't going to be painful if you lose them.

[yhiaali3]

Frankly I can't think of anything new that could be added to slot machines, because they rely primarily on luck and probability, and therefore, it's pointless to make them dependent on skill.

If slot machines were skill-based, this would not be in the gambling companies' best interests, as some skilled players would certainly discover the secret and innovate in their use of this skill, potentially causing significant losses to gambling companies.

[Dr.Bitcoin_Strange]

Now I have a question for you my friends: If you could design your own slot machine, what twist would you add to make it more skill-based?

No twist, mate, any gambler that is looking for skill based games should simply go for betting. In sports betting, despite that skill doesn't work it all the time but you will still have a possible advantage of winning if you do a proper analysis and also if you are lucky too. That's why we have two game times, slot and sports, one is specifically for luck and the other for skill and luck.
So, @OP, there's no way slot games can be made skill base.

[Hatchy]

If eventually these games starts getting studied and then some kind of strategies are being developed, the game developers or rather the casino owners would be on a losing end because the masses would pay so much just to get their hands on such strategy and make alot of money from it. It's a simple answer you might be able to study but I don't think it's going to be a skill based bust a luck based game. No matter how much we try to become very good in gambling we still end up losing. Remember the house has an edge over these games and if that's not the case, the casino would have to adjust their difficulty in a way to benefit them once again.

[Agbe]

Generally speaking slots games are computer based games that are programmed so it will only take the programmer to unlock the pattern which the game follows so it's difficult if not impossible for anyone to unlock These games so that they can understand how these games works, slots games should not be engaged because the risk potential is too much because they are virtual games which means that it's not real as it's the hand work of a computer systems so we should not waste our money on gambling on slot games because you are definitely going to lose money as they are programmed in such a way that will make you lose money

[Z-tight]

Games like slot is won only by luck and how large your bankroll is, slots game eats quickly into your bankroll, and if you are not careful, your funds will burn out very quickly. However, someone with a bigger bankroll would stay longer in the game and probably could win something good before their bankroll runs dry

There is no need to look for skills to win in slots, just spin and enjoy the game, but to enjoy the game, you have to deposit an amount you can afford to lose and lower your wager per spin.

[Z_MBFM]

Slots cannot be skill based. Skill based casino games that the ones that you have to play against another gambler. In doing so you will naturally develop different strategies that will ensure that you are able to beat the other person because it is a competition. And in competition, it is the most skillful person who wins. On the other hand, in casino games like slots your result is already determined by the algorithm and nothing different can be done..I don't even think of designing a skill based slot, it will take always the fun and uncertainty attached to it.

Skill-based betting cannot be used in any game where you have to play against a machine or algorithm. Skill-based betting can be sports betting. Here, you can place a bet by predicting a live game where most of the time the predictions come true. Because it is understood in advance which team is more likely to win. Although the odds are not very high there, at least there is a high chance of winning. Slots games are run by algorithms which are completely impossible to predict. It depends entirely on luck and the better the luck, the more wins it shows for the one who has the best luck. Slots games can only be used for fun and passing time, but never for the purpose of proving your skills or making a profit.

[Dunamisx]

Now I have a question for you my friends: If you could design your own slot machine, what twist would you add to make it more skill-based?

No twist, mate, any gambler that is looking for skill based games should simply go for betting. In sports betting, despite that skill doesn't work it all the time but you will still have a possible advantage of winning if you do a proper analysis and also if you are lucky too. That's why we have two game times, slot and sports, one is specifically for luck and the other for skill and luck.
So, @OP, there's no way slot games can be made skill base.

Well said, sport bet is regarded as the kind of game which requires skills and the more you know how to play it the more closer you get to winning a bet while playing it, we all know that slot games are luck base, as I've said earlier from my previous post, we cant assume it to have the same interpretation or approach with the type that depends on our skills, slot is base on luck and if we want to display our skills, then we should consider sport betting.

[rachael9385]

I’ve seen a lot of YouTube videos talking about “How do you know when a slot machine will hit?” Some videos give misleading strategies (just to bring more players to their affiliate links), while others answer this question in a simple and strict way: IT'S IMPOSSIBLE.
Personally, after years around this stuff, I can say it straight as well: you don’t. It’s random, and it always has been.
I’ve tried several strategies over time, like flat betting, Reverse Martingale, the gamble feature on small wins, and yes, some of them can make things more fun or help stretch your bankroll. But none of them "crack the system."
The best move I ever made? Setting hard limits and treating it as entertainment, not income.
Not only that, but sometimes the smartest strategy is what I prefer to call the 'Careful Man ' approach: just don’t play at all when you feel unlucky or when you’ve been losing continuously in a short time. At that point, you need to do something else because I can guarantee you’ll feel no fun, only regret, if you insist on playing.
By the way, you can find a list of slot machine myths that you must avoid at any cost:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5539526.msg65313775#msg65313775
(This list is for beginners to help them start playing on a solid basis)

Now I have a question for you my friends: If you could design your own slot machine, what twist would you add to make it more skill-based?

Casino games can't be made skilled based games and one reason for this is because of the house edge, everything was programmed for the house to constantly be in profit, the gambler can only win if he gets lucky.  Playing when you feel unlucky does a lot of damage in casino gambling and that's a fact, it's better to just avoid the game totally, although this might not really mean anything but psychology matters a lot.

[Oluwa-btc]

Personally, after years around this stuff, I can say it straight as well: you don’t. It’s random, and it always has been.
I’ve tried several strategies over time, like flat betting, Reverse Martingale, the gamble feature on small wins, and yes, some of them can make things more fun or help stretch your bankroll. But none of them "crack the system."
The best move I ever made? Setting hard limits and treating it as entertainment, not income.

Just as it's stated in the image above it's so impossible and for anyone to think that slots machines are skill based, and mind you all of this doesn't imply that it's a skill based game rather it's meant to drain one of their fund and this is a more reason it's set aside as a game of fun to be enjoyed by people who have nothing to lose. But regardless they are interesting but it's the fact that it has a high chance of luring into addiction that's why I don't find it so cool playing.

[mak013]

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The best move I ever made? Setting hard limits and treating it as entertainment, not income.
Not only that, but sometimes the smartest strategy is what I prefer to call the 'Careful Man ' approach: just don’t play at all when you feel unlucky or when you’ve been losing continuously in a short time. At that point, you need to do something else because I can guarantee you’ll feel no fun, only regret, if you insist on playing.

The main problem in such strategy, that gambler often has problem with feeling himself lucky or unlucky. Even if he lose game by game he mostly think something like "ok, i lose it, but next game i certainly win!". Also, if gambler think that he can win in slots he mostly bad in maths, it means that it is logically thinking in hard enough for him.
As result - the only strategy to set limits and stop after reaching it.