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May 10, 2025, 12:56:13 AM
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I have always believed that a quality forecast in sports betting is extremely important. More precisely, all elements of the gaming system are important in their own way: risk management, discipline with emotion control and strategy. But if you cannot generate a quality forecast with a high percentage of success, then it is unlikely that emotion control and discipline will help you.
Neither emotion, discipline or quality forecast will help you win. You need to ask yourself how do you identify a quality forecast from one that is of less quality? The answer is of no way. Our forecast is uncertain even when we think it is of great quality. Gambling is luck so whenever we trust our instinct we should also expect that a loss is still possible. Emotions and discipline might triggers a safe way of gambling, yet it doesn't still guarantee you  a win, although it helps in reducing the risk we take.
It's good to be familiar with the facts of the game and you will develop yourself in such a way that you can play the gambling game. Predictions can bring us unimaginable truths for which we should be prepared and set our attitude before betting. There are stages where the value of emotion and discipline can be observed as a secondary issue and the loss of money is certain.

I can say for sure that experience helps us reduce risks and pushes us out of the circle of defeat. For newbie gamblers the decision-making process between money management and gambling can be considered relatively risky. They may be limited in their ability to withstand the blow of defeat and be patient. For experienced gamblers, there is a balance between reviewing and applying risk tolerance.

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May 10, 2025, 02:05:53 AM
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I agree. Quality forecast is not just extremely important; it's, in fact, everything in sports betting. Even if you're irresponsible in your bankroll management, if you have quality forecast, you might not be considered irresponsible at all. The only thing that matters in sports betting is winning.

The question, now, is how to achieve quality forecast or, better yet, how accurate a realistic quality forecast is. Or, is it even possible to reach a highly consistent forecast? At the end of the day, games are to be played. The ball is round. No matter how good you are as an analyst, how familiar you are with the sport, you can't really predict what's going to happen during the actual games.

For example, I doubt somebody correctly predicted that the Knicks would take all the games in the defending champion's homecourt in the Eastern Conference semifinals.

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May 10, 2025, 03:46:42 AM
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I have always believed that a quality forecast in sports betting is extremely important. More precisely, all elements of the gaming system are important in their own way: risk management, discipline with emotion control and strategy. But if you cannot generate a quality forecast with a high percentage of success, then it is unlikely that emotion control and discipline will help you. Risk management and money management are also unlikely to help you win. All this will only allow you to lose your money a little slower, but will not help you win. The key factor in winning is a quality forecast. However, creating a quality forecast is always a problem of additional information and better processing of this information. Write what you think about a quality forecast, its role in a gaming system and the methods of its construction.

All I know is that gambling is a place to throw money away most of the time, it's not a place for us to have money all the time, but when luck strikes you,
you can suddenly have a lot of money, but not all the chances are yours or ours to always win.

Because most of the time when a gambler experiences this, they think that it's a job because they can generate profit through luck in their gambling at any casino.
This is just my observation.

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May 10, 2025, 04:58:13 AM
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I have always believed that a quality forecast in sports betting is extremely important. More precisely, all elements of the gaming system are important in their own way: risk management, discipline with emotion control and strategy. But if you cannot generate a quality forecast with a high percentage of success, then it is unlikely that emotion control and discipline will help you. Risk management and money management are also unlikely to help you win. All this will only allow you to lose your money a little slower, but will not help you win. The key factor in winning is a quality forecast. However, creating a quality forecast is always a problem of additional information and better processing of this information. Write what you think about a quality forecast, its role in a gaming system and the methods of its construction.

All I know is that gambling is a place to throw money away most of the time, it's not a place for us to have money all the time, but when luck strikes you,
you can suddenly have a lot of money, but not all the chances are yours or ours to always win.

Because most of the time when a gambler experiences this, they think that it's a job because they can generate profit through luck in their gambling at any casino.
This is just my observation.
We can partly agree with this. Making money in sports betting is extremely difficult. In my opinion, the percentage of successful people in the long term is extremely small, much less than in trading. I will say more - making money in gambling in the long term is somewhat similar to aerobatics. It requires great erudition, experience, knowledge, the presence of unique advantages over other participants. Making money in trading is easier. Few people manage to make money in the long term in sports betting. But still, if you do, then this is evidence of a fairly high intellect.

 
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May 10, 2025, 05:19:16 AM
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The key factor in winning is a quality forecast. However, creating a quality forecast is always a problem of additional information and better processing of this information. Write what you think about a quality forecast, its role in a gaming system and the methods of its construction.

What I know is that for anything that you think is impossible to accomplish, we have people accomplishing that same thing every day. People say there isn't any possibility to be gambling for long and be profitable but there is. Since it isn't like they're not going to lose but always be winning, that's when you can say it's impossible but to be profitable, we have many people being capable of doing that regularly.

Gambling has no guarantee but when you get the right strategy that works for yous and a little luck on your side, you'll be unstoppable. Having a quality forecast depends on where you get your information from and the things you're using to make your forecast. Some people only depends on the current form of the clubs playing or the personality that's involved in the game but we're meant to research further for better outcomes.

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May 10, 2025, 06:09:23 AM
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I have always believed that a quality forecast in sports betting is extremely important. More precisely, all elements of the gaming system are important in their own way: risk management, discipline with emotion control and strategy. But if you cannot generate a quality forecast with a high percentage of success, then it is unlikely that emotion control and discipline will help you. Risk management and money management are also unlikely to help you win. All this will only allow you to lose your money a little slower, but will not help you win. The key factor in winning is a quality forecast. However, creating a quality forecast is always a problem of additional information and better processing of this information. Write what you think about a quality forecast, its role in a gaming system and the methods of its construction.

All I know is that gambling is a place to throw money away most of the time, it's not a place for us to have money all the time, but when luck strikes you,
you can suddenly have a lot of money, but not all the chances are yours or ours to always win.

Because most of the time when a gambler experiences this, they think that it's a job because they can generate profit through luck in their gambling at any casino.
This is just my observation.
We can partly agree with this. Making money in sports betting is extremely difficult. In my opinion, the percentage of successful people in the long term is extremely small, much less than in trading. I will say more - making money in gambling in the long term is somewhat similar to aerobatics. It requires great erudition, experience, knowledge, the presence of unique advantages over other participants. Making money in trading is easier. Few people manage to make money in the long term in sports betting. But still, if you do, then this is evidence of a fairly high intellect.
Don't forget that luck play the role in gambling. We will not win if we don't have luck so we see many people lose their money while only a few people wins the games. If we just still playing gambling without control, you will spend too much money and lose it. So if you can make a forecast on gambling, that can increase your percentage of winning but we should not expecting to win because everything can change.

You can make any forecast but that still a prediction which you don't know if your prediction is right or wrong. We will only see it when the match is end. So you need to get as much info as you can and analyze and compare it so you can conclude your prediction which team will win.

After that, you can place your bet and wait for the result.

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May 10, 2025, 06:11:07 AM
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The word, 'quality forecast' feels out of place to me tbh

I have always believed that a quality forecast in sports betting is extremely important.

Certainly, because on it your winning depends on.

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...However, creating a quality forecast is always a problem of additional information and better processing of this information. Write what you think about a quality forecast, its role in a gaming system and the methods of its construction.

If I am understanding, 'method of construction' right then I would say, just start watching any sports, and it'll come naturally. As you start watching you will gain knowledge, and that knowledge will help you make better predictions.

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May 10, 2025, 07:22:26 AM
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I have always believed that a quality forecast in sports betting is extremely important. More precisely, all elements of the gaming system are important in their own way: risk management, discipline with emotion control and strategy. But if you cannot generate a quality forecast with a high percentage of success, then it is unlikely that emotion control and discipline will help you. Risk management and money management are also unlikely to help you win. All this will only allow you to lose your money a little slower, but will not help you win. The key factor in winning is a quality forecast. However, creating a quality forecast is always a problem of additional information and better processing of this information. Write what you think about a quality forecast, its role in a gaming system and the methods of its construction.
Of course, as a good gambler it's essential to always do your own forecast first before relying on luck. Although is quite sating that gambling depends on luck, but sometimes is very necessary for us to do some forecast before placing a bet. Because you can not just pick a team that is already weak and hoping that luck will going to make the team to win easily, it doesn't work that way. However, before relying slowly on luck is also advisable to do your own best first, because sometimes your own forecast can increase your chance of winning in gambling.

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It is possible to make a profit in the long run in sports gambling. For this, we must follow some rules.

  • First of all, I will say that we must have a full understanding of the game we are going to bet on. If we have only a half-baked idea, we should not bet on it. We may win money in some matches. However, if we think about the long term, we will face losses. So if we do not have complete knowledge about the game, we should not bet on that game.
  • Secondly, we must understand the math of sports gambling. The favorite team can often be selected by checking the odds of different sites. This is an easy method. However, professional gamblers do not necessarily follow this.
  • Thirdly, we must know well about the two teams in which the match will be held. We can select the favorite team by considering their squad and recent form. This is why it is important to have full knowledge about the game.
  • Fourthly, we must have the ability to analyze data and statistics correctly. For example, I can talk about the match between Bayern Munich and Gladbach. The matches between these two teams are very competitive. Munich has won the last 3 matches against Gladbach. However, Munich has failed to win in the previous 6 consecutive matches against Gladbach. Munich was strong and the favorite. Even in their best form, they lost against Gladbach. You have to carefully examine these statistics and then decide to place a bet.

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May 10, 2025, 09:54:57 AM
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I've joined premium forecasters in the past and believe me they have been accurate for some time, but later a new change begins that in a complete week all they forcasted went wrong and people started leaving the channel.

This made me believe that there is no expert anywhere, what will play out is not been determined by the forcaster but those in action, and the result will either be right or wrong.

Have fun gambling but don't expect forcaster prediction to always be right, this should only boost your confidence in the bet but the outcome isn't in your disposal, risk what you can and have fun.

You are right, the outcome of a game can not be determined by the person that predicted the game. Some persons can actually claim to be experts in making predictions, despite that they are good in making predictions, they can not be perfect all the time and perhaps there are some weeks that person will just be experiencing a losing streak back to back.

Since this week, there's someone in my circle who has been winning his bets every day, no lose yet and even his profits yesterday was massive but sometimes it doesn't usually happen like that, he can have massive losses this week and also recover all those bad bets in the coming weeks.

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May 10, 2025, 11:19:05 AM
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there are a few bookies that are okay with it, some not so much, and it is a betting strategy, thousands of bettors use it daily.

Yup, been there, done that!
Bookies are okay with it while you're placing the losing bets on their sites, the moment you keep getting your wins on one is the moment the red flags parade starts. Also, the secondary problem, most bookies share the same provider, you can't even hide yourself that good or spread your arbitrage over multiple sites since most of the database on the bets is already centralized.
Try pushing over 10k a month on one but don't blame me one week later if it goes south!

i'm not sure i undertande what you exactly mean by mathematical strategy? can you give me an example?

That's exactly what I was talking about, I'm pretty interested myself in seeing how someone is using math to bet, and of course, I have no example for it since I was the one asking to be enlightened with such a scheme!
Other than stupid Martingale versions, which I debunked for example here I have zero knowledge of such a thing.

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Yes, I agree that no bookmaker will allow a player to turn gambling into a profitable business. And this is only one of the obstacles in the player's way.

That is, imagine a situation where a player really has an effective forecasting strategy that allows him to predict the results of sporting events. For a player, this is not enough to consistently make a profit in the long term. He needs to win without the bookmaker (and, accordingly, any other third-party observer) noticing.

How can this be done? The player must have winnings much smaller in amount than the winnings / losses of other players.

Then he will not attract the bookmaker's attention.

Is this possible in a situation where a player places bets on sporting events? In my opinion, no. In some gambling games it is possible, but not in this situation.

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Some persons can actually claim to be experts in making predictions, despite that they are good in making predictions, they can not be perfect all the time and perhaps there are some weeks that person will just be experiencing a losing streak back to back.

That's true and this happens more frequently to us that often gambles everyday, that it why to an extent, we may go in taking extra steps on receiving gambling prediction tips from other source in times of uncertainties and this has been helping in some ways, though there have not been any proven evidence to show how effective it has been for long in making us profitable, as we often lose when we play bets than winning.

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Emotional control and risk management are just measures taken to reduce losses, if accurate predictions cannot be made 60 percent of the time then those things wouldn't really help you to make profit..it works well when you strategy works most of the time and you also remember to apply those safety measures...long term profits in sports without having good predictions is totally impossible...you can get lucky once in a while but don't always expect it.

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Write what you think about a quality forecast, its role in a gaming system and the methods of its construction.
A quality forecast can be said or referred as a forecast whose outcome are a product of systematic process or analysis of previous performance of same game, as it gives room to a close possibility or probability of same future occurrence, with reference to key Sport betting data's. Which in football, these key data's can be seen like for example, amount or previous corners, goals, and who are it's key players, if are they on match or they are on injury. As these data's will give you an edge to making quality sport betting data, despite knowing too that in football anything could happen, as luck can never be overemphasize, since it also plays an important role in football too.

 
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Write what you think about a quality forecast, its role in a gaming system and the methods of its construction.

It doesn't matter what you think, it's what you do when you read a quality prediction that you agree with... I usually follow it and place a bet.

I don't know what you mean by "construction"... any prediction is ultimately just a prediction. It may come true or it may not. Who knows? That's why we gamble & place bets. It's not like you can "construct" some special system/strategy with some laws & logic that will bring profit in the long run. Or maybe you can? We are all trying different things, but it's not an exact science, the luck factor is always present.


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But I'm sure that I would not try to bet without AI advice. For example, Deepseek. Recently here on the forum, someone showed how much AI can predict the result of a given match, analyzing past meetings and other different factors. And it was a little impressive.
I think something, if we have a criterion based on our wisdom but we have some doubts, the tools that we base ourselves on investigating if they are good, this includes AI, between social networks, news, TV, everything, everything can be help, it cannot help us think better, but it should not be just one, it can help us clarify, but there should not be only 1 tool , it is a thousand times better to do our analysis without help first, and then do the research to see if it corresponds later with the tool and if it coincides then have security or at least more security.

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Oh it definitely carries the bet. It's the actual replacement of luck when comparing sports betting to regular gambling gamess, albeit it doesn't completely replace it all, but it does replace ALMOST all of it. As for how to make it, actually just depends on you, really. Personally I consider what I make slopshoddy but hey, it works (sometimes). Everyone has their own way of tabulating and calculating odds and statistics so just roll with it.

As for the rest of the stuff you need, while yeah they just reduce the pace you lose your money they're still pretty important stuff to consider. I mean my total bet per game adjusts not just in my predictions but also based on my risks that I got.
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If it's not possible to become a long term sports bettor then I won't see people that have been doing it all of their lifetime. But, I am seeing people that does sports betting as their bread and butter but they have studied it very well before they get into its venture. Someone who knows how to make bets and analyze games before betting, that's what they do. And if someone won't do any of them and wanting to become a long term profitable bettor, they will still go and find what suits them a strategy but they will realize that it's needed to become one.
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I think that everything is possible in this life, in the long term the player Should be more expert and should have the necessary experience to get out of any kind of trouble , I could say that most of the time they make mistakes instead of learning what they achieve is Getting worse because they lose more surely, but it is because they bet badly and do things very badly , and that triggers all kinds of Negative consequences, among them the most important one is losing money.

In my opinion, the problem isn't the poor selection of the gambler or their naievety in choosing the right bet, since there can never be a winning strategy in sports betting, as gambling is essentially a game of chance. Rather, the real problem lies in making mistakes related to financial management and proper budget control. Poor asset management always causes huge problems in any scheme, including the management of gambling assets. Hence the famous rule: "Don't gamble more than you can afford to lose." This same principle applies to trading: don't invest in any cryptocurrency or even stocks with amounts you can't afford to lose.

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