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May 11, 2025, 08:53:58 AM |
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So recently Trump said that they are making deals with a lot of countries including China and that the tariffs are going to be resolved, and he is willing to lower tariffs from 145% to 80% with China. He said literally that you should buy stocks now because the market is going to skyrocket to epic numbers. So was this all a big buy the dip opportunity and bears will once again be left behind holding big bags of cash, or are we going to see a continued bear market for a while? All I know is that bears will be in disbelief if we go to ATH, a lot of bears are short since Q4 24' and are not expecting hitting ATH anytime soon, so their thesis would be invalidated. Some other bears will just come up with excuses as the market continues to rally and everyone that listens to these people will continue to be sidelined. Either way I hold cash but im invested at the same time.
The time to buy stocks was weeks ago when he sent the American economy to the edge and annoyed every single trading partner with random charges. From what I have read any tariffs on China are equivalent to an embargo - it's not going to be cost effective, so even if he drops them to 80% he is ruling out the majority of trade that existed before. We are currently in a grey zone, where the effects of the tariffs are yet to feed through - companies had stocked up prior and are burning through the cheaper pre-tariff stock. Through DOGE there have also been cuts to public jobs so a whole chunk of people will struggle to pay bills and demand will drop - knocking the private sector too. It is going to lead to a recession later down the line and that would be the optimum time to buy, instead of the small correction we experienced.
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May 11, 2025, 10:11:13 AM |
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So recently Trump said that they are making deals with a lot of countries including China and that the tariffs are going to be resolved, and he is willing to lower tariffs from 145% to 80% with China. He said literally that you should buy stocks now because the market is going to skyrocket to epic numbers. So was this all a big buy the dip opportunity and bears will once again be left behind holding big bags of cash, or are we going to see a continued bear market for a while? All I know is that bears will be in disbelief if we go to ATH, a lot of bears are short since Q4 24' and are not expecting hitting ATH anytime soon, so their thesis would be invalidated. Some other bears will just come up with excuses as the market continues to rally and everyone that listens to these people will continue to be sidelined. Either way I hold cash but im invested at the same time.
He is playing pump and dump mind games. What was the point of playing with tariffs if he now wants to negotiate? Couldn't he start negotiation from the very first day instead of immediately setting ridiculous tariffs? I think he did it intentionally to dump stocks, he would have made tons of money on stocks market with that accident. Now he will buy stocks again, he will negotiate about tariffs and will also suggest you to buy stocks because he wants to pump stock market again to make tons of money to later sell them at a huge price. Why are people so naive, why do they believe that billionaires are their messiah?
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May 11, 2025, 10:30:20 AM |
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So recently Trump said that they are making deals with a lot of countries including China and that the tariffs are going to be resolved, and he is willing to lower tariffs from 145% to 80% with China. He said literally that you should buy stocks now because the market is going to skyrocket to epic numbers. So was this all a big buy the dip opportunity and bears will once again be left behind holding big bags of cash, or are we going to see a continued bear market for a while? Lowering tariffs from 145% to 80% doesn't mean anything. Those tariffs will remain absurdly high. Trump can post whatever BS he wants. His "tariff policies" must be threated as market manipulation and should be investigated as insider trading. Just because Trump says that stock prices will skyrocket, that doesn't mean that they will. Optimism has returned for a while, so I don't expect a bear market anytime soon. There will be a lot of positive news around the world, most of them won't be related to crypto, but they might boost a cryptocurrency prices as well(at least for a while).
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May 11, 2025, 10:41:29 AM |
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So recently Trump said that they are making deals with a lot of countries including China and that the tariffs are going to be resolved, and he is willing to lower tariffs from 145% to 80% with China. He said literally that you should buy stocks now because the market is going to skyrocket to epic numbers. So was this all a big buy the dip opportunity and bears will once again be left behind holding big bags of cash, or are we going to see a continued bear market for a while? All I know is that bears will be in disbelief if we go to ATH, a lot of bears are short since Q4 24' and are not expecting hitting ATH anytime soon, so their thesis would be invalidated. Some other bears will just come up with excuses as the market continues to rally and everyone that listens to these people will continue to be sidelined. Either way I hold cash but im invested at the same time.
If we look at it literally, the actions he is taking now are like those of a dictator, as if he is taking advantage of his presidency and at the same time being a businessman using his influence and connections for his own benefits. And he is using tariffs as a trap for the leaders of each country to get what he wants, as if he is the one who controls the market, something like that is what I am noticing. And other institutional investors are going along with Trump's hype.
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May 11, 2025, 11:01:18 AM |
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I think Trump is once again testing his power over the market and he is starting to seem to manipulate it with planned policy changes. But whatever, bitcoin and stocks may have a correlation, but I do agree that long term investment in bitcoin is the best choice.
Bitcoin price has shown a pretty good increase so far although it does not seem to test the $105k resistance level. The resistance will probably be broken in the next few days or early next week, but I and anyone else can never be sure. Bitcoin investment can be done anytime and at any price, but you have to consider some strategies so that you do not get stuck at the same price all the time.
He makes policies and after that tests the success rate, it's kind of a leap that thinks it will have an end but sometimes it doesn't give the final result of the finish he expected. I believe the policy has an effect on the journey of bitcoin but it's all short-term and it shouldn't cause excessive panic. Bitcoin has a pretty good increase and we see the resistance level almost breaking $105k and if you pay attention maybe in the future there will be a little correction before the price hits $105k. Long term is the choice taken by most people in carrying out investment and I agree that we need to make a policy regarding the direction of determination when we want to accumulate so that we do not get caught in a process that can disrupt the investment we are carrying out.
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May 11, 2025, 11:26:54 AM |
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But why would he say such? Although his is a business person as well, but I don't know him as a professional financial experts or investment adviser. This should not have come from him, despite that he wants to drop the tariff a bit, it's left for investors or financial experts to make the analysis and decide if it's wise to invest In stocks. Well, anyone can risk it but I do buy just Bitcoin and no other asset for now.
The US president has failed to imbibe some important characteristics of the number citizens of the most powerful country in the world. He is known to make unguided statements, give out unverified information, and give financial advice. I don't take some of things he says seriously. Neither do I even take statements like this serious if it came from him. If time is not taken, the opposite of his statement will happen because according what I read before now, that he has made a similar expression in the past but the opposite of what he said happened.
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May 11, 2025, 01:09:02 PM |
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So recently Trump said that they are making deals with a lot of countries including China and that the tariffs are going to be resolved, and he is willing to lower tariffs from 145% to 80% with China. Is there even a need for this, because he was aware of the consequences before inflating on the tariffs and there is big agenda behind the sudden increase, I could remember the way t was announced on social media about Trump coin when it was launched and how they have used such to make money from the people who tend to take advantage investing for profit, now they should still buy stocks when we have decentralized digital currency that is more secure to invest like Bitcoin.
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he is willing to lower tariffs from 145% to 80% with China.
There is no real difference between these two numbers. Both are high and both are equally causing inflation in the US and both are pushing China into retaliating against US tariff war. When a tarrif rate is too high, raising it higher like 200% or 500% or 1000% would be the same. Because after a tarrif threshold, it would be enough to block all goods and products from China imported to USA, so lifting it more does not make any change. This tariff rate lift to higher and higher rate is only used to make noise on media and make the market panicly. It triggers market collapse and indirectly causes another pressure on China for sitting down to discuss and retaliate with the USA. The tariff war and tariff rate escalation soon will stop as people will soon recognize that action to lift tariff rate to a higher and unrealistic rate does not aim at imports but on other things like stock market. It will come to time when people are no longer panic, and then tariff deal will be made, and the market will recover.
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Investors will never be motivated to invest based on Trump's words. Because there is no certainty that such people of political personalities are not giving such orders for their own interests.
You are not sure with that. If we have people in crypto who FOMO when an influencer say so, then that is also the same with that. It is so much more in fact because man it was Trump but I agree that this must include personal interest, I mean he is a president and as a president, they must have other more important things to do or say than this, lol. There is no problem in whatever one says in terms of investment, but one should increase or decrease investment depending on one's own principles.
I think there is. What about when they say something bad to gold for example and also they do it in public? I think they can get a fine for that or some kind of a punishment. Yes, it is better to follow our own self when it comes to these things but it might also be not illegal to follow someone else. It happens already like I said earlier.
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Trump doesn't want to go down in history as the person who triggered the overdue, epic collapse of fiat currency and global debt. Taking financial advice from a person who bankrupted at least 4 businesses is a bad idea. So recently Trump said that they are making deals with a lot of countries including China and that the tariffs are going to be resolved, and he is willing to lower tariffs from 145% to 80% with China. He said literally that you should buy stocks now because the market is going to skyrocket to epic numbers. So was this all a big buy the dip opportunity and bears will once again be left behind holding big bags of cash, or are we going to see a continued bear market for a while? All I know is that bears will be in disbelief if we go to ATH, a lot of bears are short since Q4 24' and are not expecting hitting ATH anytime soon, so their thesis would be invalidated. Some other bears will just come up with excuses as the market continues to rally and everyone that listens to these people will continue to be sidelined. Either way I hold cash but im invested at the same time.
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He could have just said "be my exit liquidity", or "pump the markets for me". This is just desperate and if anything it smells like crash incoming. I don't believe tomorrow would be black monday, but i definitely see that it doesn't need much uncertainty to crash more. Altcoin holders would suffer way worse than any stocks though. And every week Trump says something so crazy, that i didn't even see that to possible. I wish i just shorted the right stock. Could be Netflix at some point because his fixation on "woke" and movies.
Also, giving market tips is so far from anything that president of U.S. is supposed to even imply. Trump trying to manipulate markets however seems like day like any other now.
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May 12, 2025, 12:33:48 PM |
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But why would he say such? Although his is a business person as well, but I don't know him as a professional financial experts or investment adviser. This should not have come from him, despite that he wants to drop the tariff a bit, it's left for investors or financial experts to make the analysis and decide if it's wise to invest In stocks. Well, anyone can risk it but I do buy just Bitcoin and no other asset for now.
Why wont he say such? If Trump announces for everyone to buy Bitcoin will you buy? When Trump speaks the market trembles, it has been like that for months now. It is obvious Trump has more words to influence the market than Biden. Stock are now surging higher few minutes Trump made that statement. For real the Tariff news on US and China is one way Trump is using to influence the stock and the Bitcoin market. If only you realize how his statements has just been a tool to manipulate the market and not because he really had people's interest at heart, then you will not ask me this kind do of cross question. When Trump was campaigning for the election, price was still down at $70k, why did he not make a public statement to tell people that they should start to invest into Bitcoin as quick as possible because when he becomes the president, price will surge? Can you point me to where he made such statement? So, why now about stocks, you will think the politicians love you, while they are more concerned about their own benefits. Maybe you don't know.
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But why would he say such? Although his is a business person as well, but I don't know him as a professional financial experts or investment adviser. This should not have come from him, despite that he wants to drop the tariff a bit, it's left for investors or financial experts to make the analysis and decide if it's wise to invest In stocks. Well, anyone can risk it but I do buy just Bitcoin and no other asset for now.
The US president has failed to imbibe some important characteristics of the number citizens of the most powerful country in the world. He is known to make unguided statements, give out unverified information, and give financial advice. I don't take some of things he says seriously. Neither do I even take statements like this serious if it came from him. If time is not taken, the opposite of his statement will happen because according what I read before now, that he has made a similar expression in the past but the opposite of what he said happened. When Trump first came to power, everyone was surprised by his behavior. Some of his policies were very anti-people. After a long time, when he tried to come to power again for the second term, many forgot about those issues, but after coming to power, that behavior was re-echoed. He seems crazy in all the policies he adopts or his discussions with the media. In most cases, he takes policies without any kind of judgment and analysis, which is annoying to me. If the proposal he made about trade tariffs were implemented, it could have created instability in the entire world. In any case, no decision should be taken on any financial issue depending on such a person.
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So recently Trump said that they are making deals with a lot of countries including China and that the tariffs are going to be resolved, and he is willing to lower tariffs from 145% to 80% with China. He said literally that you should buy stocks now because the market is going to skyrocket to epic numbers. So was this all a big buy the dip opportunity and bears will once again be left behind holding big bags of cash, or are we going to see a continued bear market for a while? All I know is that bears will be in disbelief if we go to ATH, a lot of bears are short since Q4 24' and are not expecting hitting ATH anytime soon, so their thesis would be invalidated. Some other bears will just come up with excuses as the market continues to rally and everyone that listens to these people will continue to be sidelined. Either way I hold cash but im invested at the same time.
Wether or not of Trump's statements, the right time to invest is always now. Procrastinating the time of investment because you are waiting for a better time maybe for a price drop is only a waste of time as well as a total waste of money as a wasted time is a wasted money. If you are to waste time in investing, the little returns you are supposed to get within the time of your delay in investments will be lost. The earlier you start the best for you.
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After what happened when the tariff war was intensifying, i can vividly say that if stocks skyrockets, cryptos will skyrocket as well so i'll rather choose to buy cryptos and HODL than buy stocks. Already the tariff tensions have really reduced which means we are in for a positive movement of both stocks and cryptocurrency so anyone can choose which to buy and not be persuaded because of what Trump says, he is a very controversial person and his words shouldn't be taken so seriously even if they will happen, it can only reign for a short time.
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May 12, 2025, 08:46:17 PM |
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Honestly after the tariff, i've become skeptical with statement like these. I will hold myself from buying stock at the mean time and do my own research instead if i really want to buy stock, sudden tariff announcement like what trump did can literally rekt my portfolio and I don't want that to happen.
As far as I know, we're still in the tariff war, nothing is clear yet. Then I won't bet on something that I don't even know the odd.
You are very correct. Trump lowering the tariff and encouraging everyone to buy stocks seems he wants to control the stock market. It is not a good one. How about if everyone buys stocks, he goes ahead to increase the tariff again and the market crashes again. If anyone has to buy stocks, it should be according to their own research and conviction and not because the president of US said so.
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In the end, he just wanted to make this a momentum to come back for himself as if he was a know-it-all whose goal was only to make the market conditions volatile again just like he did with his promise of bitcoin when the nomination was made.
Although what he said was quite good because it could be used as a future investment, don't forget that stocks, especially the US, are currently being shaken, especially when the trade war is still quite hot until now.
What should be felt when he brought up crypto as if he could manipulate market prices like some time ago happened again and don't just swallow what politicians, influencers or other influential people say because after all they just want to make their conditions better by using the time they have as a back up to facilitate their intentions.
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May 12, 2025, 09:59:07 PM |
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You are very correct. Trump lowering the tariff and encouraging everyone to buy stocks seems he wants to control the stock market. It is not a good one. How about if everyone buys stocks, he goes ahead to increase the tariff again and the market crashes again. If anyone has to buy stocks, it should be according to their own research and conviction and not because the president of US said so.
Remember when trump actually made the suggestion that people should buy some Altcoins like XRP, Solana and Ethereum, and bitcoin and later we got faced with the tariff rate increase and these things after a brief pump dump so hard. Right now it is buy stock and after this statement there is already another news of drug, groceries, Gasoline and energy been cut by around 50% which might now have its impact on the market. For me I think trump speeches do affect the market sentiment only. We can’t actually blame him for anything like leading people to buy stocks, first rule in the financial market is learning how to do research and not actually following up influencers conviction
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May 13, 2025, 05:59:16 AM |
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The tariff war and tariff rate escalation soon will stop as people will soon recognize that action to lift tariff rate to a higher and unrealistic rate does not aim at imports but on other things like stock market. It will come to time when people are no longer panic, and then tariff deal will be made, and the market will recover.
It is way too soon to talk about market (and generally economic) recovery because if we think about it, nothing has changed regarding the problem that US regime has with China and the rest of the world. They still don't like seeing any other country grow economically or otherwise! The only thing that happened was that Trump realized US economy is too fragile to perform such shenanigans and get away with it. So he backed off. Otherwise the war against China continues which means true recovery is still unlikely. We will only see FOMO in the US stock market for now. A lot more has to happen for true recovery...
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Honestly I think it’s kinda of crazy don't you think like how much weights Trump words is still carrying even like when they sounded more like a hype than the real advice
That's one day he is slamming with the TARIFFS and the next he is telling everyone just to buy ha ha it is just like trying to trade based on a Reality TV script in front of you
I am getting the vibe he is trying to prop thing here maybe trying to give the market a Little Fake Boost for her image sake what do you say But let’s be really real If you are taking financial advice from a guy who had once called I remember that Bitcoin “a bubble” & then later he started his own crypto memecoin 🤣 you definitely might wanna rrcheck your strategy Stocks or crypto,
Whether the USA is true economic strength remember the hype alone can move the market sentiments bro Just don’t be trap by holding the bag when the curtain get pulled back
And yes at the end just Stick to your plan keep your emotion out of it & maybe don’t go full-in just because someone with a big mouth said it so 🧠
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