[BOXING]Manny Pacquiao ending his boxing retirement!?

[sheenshane]

I don’t see any other motive here except money.

As for politics, he already lost, so there’s nothing to prepare for on that end. This comeback feels more like a financial move than anything else.

I tend to agree, and I believe it’s to compensate for his political losses.
IMO, I understand why it appears that money is the primary motive and goal behind Manny Pacquiao’s comeback, especially given the challenges he’s encountered in politics and his recent defeats.

However, I think it extends beyond mere financial gain.
For someone like Pacquiao, boxing is deeply woven into his identity, it’s where he has built his legacy, his sense of purpose, and the respect of millions worldwide, and now it seems to be slowly fading.

[LogitechMouse]

Is his career in politics over?
He is fighting a young man, if he would survive the fight at least the end will be a decision but Barrios does have a knockout power.

If Pacman wins, he would have to fight someone else in WW because he will be getting the belt. Well, sure he is fighting for the belt. He is rich so they say being a politician and a businessman in the Philipines.

He lost in the senatorial race so it's safe to say that his career in politics is over... for now because he might come back and run again after 3 years, but now in a lower position in his place.

Anyway, Barrios might not have that knockout power, but Pacquiao also doesn't have the stamina, and endurance needed for a 12-round fight. We saw how Jake Paul destroyed Mike Tyson, and I know they aren't the same, but what I believe is that the older the boxer is, the lower the stamina therefore, it will be hard for him to stay for a full fight. Yes, he made achievements in the past, but it doesn't matter now... that if he will really return to the ring again, and if his promoter will agree to it.

It's all because of money I would say. He's a businessman here in the PH, so I don't know why he's going back to fight after saying that he will be retiring.

[sunsilk]

I don’t see any other motive here except money.

I agree. It certainly is for the money, he is past his prime, but this is the good thing about being a legend. They can come back anytime they wish to, and the other fighters would like to bite their bait to fight them earning them a lot of money.

As for politics, he already lost, so there’s nothing to prepare for on that end. This comeback feels more like a financial move than anything else.

This is always the plan I think by him that if ever he's lost his candidacy, he'll just get one or two fight per year and then every campaign expense is easily recovered.

It's all because of money I would say. He's a businessman here in the PH, so I don't know why he's going back to fight after saying that he will be retiring.

Everyone is having the same thought about him getting more money and that's the motivation, no other reason than money.

[bbc.reporter]

I reckon he only misses the sport of boxing and he would again like the attention he is receiving from the fans.

WBC just reinstated Manny Pacquiao in their ranking, and now that he is out of politics, he can concentrate more on this fight, but like many of us here, Pacquiao is not the same fighter. He is 46 years old, and his body cannot endure long training and a serious fight.

Barrios is not a dangerous fighter, but he can still harm Manny. Manny must first pass a medical examination before he is allowed to box
, Boxing is an endurance sport; he might not endure the punishment.

In what is sure to be seen as a controversial move, Manny Pacquiao has been reinstated in the WBC welterweight rankings – and at No 5, no less – as he prepares to challenge champion Mario Barrios.

Manny Pacquiao re-enters WBC rankings at No 5 as Mario Barrios title challenge approaches

It appears that he is very much serious on his return to the ring. This man is a real Rock Balboa where life is imitating art. I cannot say that I am not very excited on this return. However, I am very much afraid for him because similar to what you have mentioned, his age.

I want to witness him become a champion again, however. This will certainly inspire the young boxers similar to King Ry to work and try harder in their careers. These young boxers are soft similar to how the late Kobe Bryant would have said it hehehehe.

Who wouldn't want to see Manny again in the ring? He is already a legend and who knows, maybe there is still something in Manny that he wanted to make a comeback. Just like what George Foreman (RIP) did when he makes a big comeback and become the older HW champion.

For sure there are a lot of boxers that really make Manny their inspirations, even some MMA fighters too says that they love to watch Manny and he was one of their inspirations on why they join combat sports.

There will be arguments for fans who want to witness the return of the Pacman and for the fans who are saying that he should not fight again in the ring. I am one of the fans of want to witness greatness in the ring similar to the movie Rocky Balboa heheheh. However, I also understand the argument for him to enjoy his rest and retirement and be the trainer similar to the movie Creed. I certainly wish that he will find a boxer that he can teach how to become like a great boxer similar to him.

If you really wanted to hear a different plot story: Let Manny train either of his two sons and follow his path. He has one son from his first baby mama and if I'm not mistaken, he is already in this sports and winning.

So just imagine Manny teaching everything for his son and turn him into a great boxing champion. Although we don't want to see them turning into like the Chavez Sr-Jr in which the son didn't get the fighting heart from his father.

This does not need to be his sons. His sons are rich and has very good life already. I want to witness Pacman help a young and talented but poor boxer similar to how he was in the beginning of his career. Pacman can teach this boxer the steady Freddy Roach's tactics and the Wild Card gym's boxing style where Pacman became a very great boxer.

We can be certain that Freddy will be very proud of Pacman if he can train a young champion. This would certainly be a real Rocky Balboa story.

[avp2306]

Is his career in politics over?
He is fighting a young man, if he would survive the fight at least the end will be a decision but Barrios does have a knockout power.

If Pacman wins, he would have to fight someone else in WW because he will be getting the belt. Well, sure he is fighting for the belt. He is rich so they say being a politician and a businessman in the Philipines.

He lost in the senatorial race so it's safe to say that his career in politics is over... for now because he might come back and run again after 3 years, but now in a lower position in his place.

Anyway, Barrios might not have that knockout power, but Pacquiao also doesn't have the stamina, and endurance needed for a 12-round fight. We saw how Jake Paul destroyed Mike Tyson, and I know they aren't the same, but what I believe is that the older the boxer is, the lower the stamina therefore, it will be hard for him to stay for a full fight. Yes, he made achievements in the past, but it doesn't matter now... that if he will really return to the ring again, and if his promoter will agree to it.

It's all because of money I would say. He's a businessman here in the PH, so I don't know why he's going back to fight after saying that he will be retiring.

Maybe for now since as I know the election newly ended. So maybe Pacquaio will focus for a while to get more fights so he can get more money from this.

But I doubt he's capable to defeat those fighters who are in their prime. To bad for him for risking his health for the love of money so hopefully no bad situation will happen and we can see him doing fine after their fight ends. Lots of his fans say something about that he should retire already since he's old and earn lots of achievement which is enough for him. But it seems that Pacquiao have other plans and really want to earn and take advantage on his fame while he can still punch.

[Ronsbit]

Manny Pacquiao, the legendary boxer, is getting old, looking at his age, and his strength should have dropped as it used to be in the past, in his prime. He could use his boxing skills because he is fighting a young man full of energy, but for the fact that there is always a reward, it is fine, but he ought to have retired by now and face his political ambition, or could it be that he is fighting to finance his political ambition?
This is just how realistic it is to make money to sustain oneself and their dream of achieving a desired goal.

[Dave1]

If you really wanted to hear a different plot story: Let Manny train either of his two sons and follow his path. He has one son from his first baby mama and if I'm not mistaken, he is already in this sports and winning.

Manny is already teaching both of his sons,  Jimwell who is still an amateur and has a record of 6 wins and 4 losses, and Eman Bacosa, who is already a professional boxer with a record of 6 wins and one draw

Good for Manny then, but the records speak to itself. Indeed with that kind of record, it seems that they didn't get the mentality of Manny to win in every way. Although I believed that Manny also lost early in his career.

So just imagine Manny teaching everything for his son and turn him into a great boxing champion. Although we don't want to see them turning into like the Chavez Sr-Jr in which the son didn't get the fighting heart from his father.

I don't know the potential of Pacquiao's two boxing sons; they are still raw talent. Manny Pacquiao started boxing the hard way, and is already a standout in his early days of fighting. He's been through a lot compared to his two sons, who grew up with a silver spoon. Manny goes into boxing out of necessity because he cannot find a job to feed his family.

That might be the biggest difference, Manny grow up in a hard way and the only thing that matters for him to survived it thru boxing. And so he make that his lifetime committed and really work very hard. As compared to his two sons who might have been brought obviously in a different way.

[Yaunfitda]

I don’t see any other motive here except money.

As for politics, he already lost, so there’s nothing to prepare for on that end. This comeback feels more like a financial move than anything else.

I tend to agree, and I believe it’s to compensate for his political losses.
IMO, I understand why it appears that money is the primary motive and goal behind Manny Pacquiao’s comeback, especially given the challenges he’s encountered in politics and his recent defeats.

Yes, I think it's obvious that not only Pacquaio but almost all boxers fight and be motivated to received millions of dollar in every fight. Specially if you are a non-US fighter, the money that you will received is going to be huge, like in the case of Manny who will make millions of pesos.

However, I think it extends beyond mere financial gain.
For someone like Pacquiao, boxing is deeply woven into his identity, it’s where he has built his legacy, his sense of purpose, and the respect of millions worldwide, and now it seems to be slowly fading.

He has nothing to gain if he fights, he has been the oldest welterweight champion already, 8 division champ, which I think no one can beat that record, well loved by many boxing fans. So he has built his legacy already, and with that, he might destroy it by fighting again and trying to win against Barrios.

[Botnake]

He has nothing to gain if he fights, he has been the oldest welterweight champion already, 8 division champ, which I think no one can beat that record, well loved by many boxing fans. So he has built his legacy already, and with that, he might destroy it by fighting again and trying to win against Barrios.

What about the money, bro? Win or lose, that’s already a gain for him  as he’s getting paid either way.
Honestly, I wouldn’t even be surprised if Pacman gets the bigger cut of the deal, even if he’s not the champ.

People know him, people want to see him fight. He’s a legend. Even if he loses, it doesn’t change his place in the Hall of Fame as he’s already locked in there.

[btc_angela]

@btc_angela. Are you implying that the Pacman might have overspent his finances? I have heard that heis very a generous, kind man who is supporting the families of his friends financially. It would certainly be very headshaking if he will again go through the hardships of boxing in his old age to support all if those families financially.

I reckon he only misses the sport of boxing and he would again like the attention he is receiving from the fans.

Well it doesn't take us to be a genius to know that you will have to spend a lot of money campaigning in the Philippines for a Senatorial seat.

https://www.gmanetwork.com/news/topstories/nation/834251/pacquiao-spent-p119m-in-eleksyon-2022-over-p60m-from-personal-funds-soce/story/

So in any case, he spent quite a lot of money on his side. I'm not sure if he misses the fans, let's admit it, everyone in boxing and sports in general are looking for their biggest payday as this is their dreams.

And as others have said, this is Pacman's way out of poverty. So most likely he wanted to make a comeback to keep the money flowing so to speak.

[coin-investor]

https://www.gmanetwork.com/news/topstories/nation/834251/pacquiao-spent-p119m-in-eleksyon-2022-over-p60m-from-personal-funds-soce/story/

So in any case, he spent quite a lot of money on his side. I'm not sure if he misses the fans, let's admit it, everyone in boxing and sports in general are looking for their biggest payday as this is their dreams.

And as others have said, this is Pacman's way out of poverty. So most likely he wanted to make a comeback to keep the money flowing so to speak.

Based on the article, he spent 70 million on his funds, and Pacquiao is a billionaire in his country, so it's less than 10% of his assets. He also has numerous business ventures, partnerships, and, of course, sponsorships. He has money flowing even if he doesn't fight.
And you are also right; an hour in the ring will net him millions, but apart from the money, his body yearns to fight, and it will take a huge knockout or beating to shut that yearning down, and for him to say he is over and done.

[Dave1]

https://www.gmanetwork.com/news/topstories/nation/834251/pacquiao-spent-p119m-in-eleksyon-2022-over-p60m-from-personal-funds-soce/story/

So in any case, he spent quite a lot of money on his side. I'm not sure if he misses the fans, let's admit it, everyone in boxing and sports in general are looking for their biggest payday as this is their dreams.

And as others have said, this is Pacman's way out of poverty. So most likely he wanted to make a comeback to keep the money flowing so to speak.

Based on the article, he spent 70 million on his funds, and Pacquiao is a billionaire in his country, so it's less than 10% of his assets. He also has numerous business ventures, partnerships, and, of course, sponsorships. He has money flowing even if he doesn't fight.
And you are also right; an hour in the ring will net him millions, but apart from the money, his body yearns to fight, and it will take a huge knockout or beating to shut that yearning down, and for him to say he is over and done.

We don't know his spending habits though, he has been traveling around the world and maybe helping others too in his country or in his town. I'm not sure though about the yearning to fight again. We have seen his wife and mother begging him to stop fighting in the ring because of the dangers.

The question is after the fight with Barrios and let's assume he won, will he defend the belt or this is just one and done for him? And if continues then there is the question about his health as again, he is not getting any younger and maybe just one wrong fight might be big for his body.

[GreatArkansas]

I don’t see any other motive here except money.

As for politics, he already lost, so there’s nothing to prepare for on that end. This comeback feels more like a financial move than anything else.

I tend to agree, and I believe it’s to compensate for his political losses.
IMO, I understand why it appears that money is the primary motive and goal behind Manny Pacquiao’s comeback, especially given the challenges he’s encountered in politics and his recent defeats.
(....)

Same thoughts. Even he already have a lot of money, and for sure that his losses in the recent election is just nothing for him.
But for sure, he still needs to make more money, and in his league: boxing. So I am expecting more fights from him, so more money.

[bbc.reporter]

@btc_angela. Are you implying that the Pacman might have overspent his finances? I have heard that heis very a generous, kind man who is supporting the families of his friends financially. It would certainly be very headshaking if he will again go through the hardships of boxing in his old age to support all if those families financially.

I reckon he only misses the sport of boxing and he would again like the attention he is receiving from the fans.

Well it doesn't take us to be a genius to know that you will have to spend a lot of money campaigning in the Philippines for a Senatorial seat.

https://www.gmanetwork.com/news/topstories/nation/834251/pacquiao-spent-p119m-in-eleksyon-2022-over-p60m-from-personal-funds-soce/story/

So in any case, he spent quite a lot of money on his side. I'm not sure if he misses the fans, let's admit it, everyone in boxing and sports in general are looking for their biggest payday as this is their dreams.

And as others have said, this is Pacman's way out of poverty. So most likely he wanted to make a comeback to keep the money flowing so to speak.

However, this is not how political campaigns work. The candidate does not spend on his own campaign. There might be some spending with his own money. But much of this money being spent comes from the candidates political backers from the business sector that have their own corporate interests in the creation of a country's rules and regulations hehehe.

There are also some candidates who make money from political campaigns especially when the candidate is very popular because there will be much money than he can spend from backers being offered to him.

[TravelMug]

@btc_angela. Are you implying that the Pacman might have overspent his finances? I have heard that heis very a generous, kind man who is supporting the families of his friends financially. It would certainly be very headshaking if he will again go through the hardships of boxing in his old age to support all if those families financially.

I reckon he only misses the sport of boxing and he would again like the attention he is receiving from the fans.

Well it doesn't take us to be a genius to know that you will have to spend a lot of money campaigning in the Philippines for a Senatorial seat.

https://www.gmanetwork.com/news/topstories/nation/834251/pacquiao-spent-p119m-in-eleksyon-2022-over-p60m-from-personal-funds-soce/story/

So in any case, he spent quite a lot of money on his side. I'm not sure if he misses the fans, let's admit it, everyone in boxing and sports in general are looking for their biggest payday as this is their dreams.

And as others have said, this is Pacman's way out of poverty. So most likely he wanted to make a comeback to keep the money flowing so to speak.

However, this is not how political campaigns work. The candidate does not spend on his own campaign. There might be some spending with his own money. But much of this money being spent comes from the candidates political backers from the business sector that have their own corporate interests in the creation of a country's rules and regulations hehehe.

There are also some candidates who make money from political campaigns especially when the candidate is very popular because there will be much money than he can spend from backers being offered to him.

No, it's very different from Philippines politics, it doesn't work that way. Although there could be backers, but Manny has billions of pesos and one of the wealthiest in the Philippines and so he uses his own money for his campaign and there will be no one that can give him donor maybe except another billionaire in the Villar's who also lost in running in his own city.

It's just that he made the wrong decision to moved to the party of the current President who has a bad reputation that might have cost him of winning another seat. So in any case if, perhaps this is the reason why he wanted to go back to boxing and be active again.

[btc_angela]

https://www.gmanetwork.com/news/topstories/nation/834251/pacquiao-spent-p119m-in-eleksyon-2022-over-p60m-from-personal-funds-soce/story/

So in any case, he spent quite a lot of money on his side. I'm not sure if he misses the fans, let's admit it, everyone in boxing and sports in general are looking for their biggest payday as this is their dreams.

And as others have said, this is Pacman's way out of poverty. So most likely he wanted to make a comeback to keep the money flowing so to speak.

Based on the article, he spent 70 million on his funds, and Pacquiao is a billionaire in his country, so it's less than 10% of his assets. He also has numerous business ventures, partnerships, and, of course, sponsorships. He has money flowing even if he doesn't fight.
And you are also right; an hour in the ring will net him millions, but apart from the money, his body yearns to fight, and it will take a huge knockout or beating to shut that yearning down, and for him to say he is over and done.

Still though, it's money that he can't recover because that he losses his bid. It's not like a investment that he can recover. Anyhow, let's see how it goes for him, there are personalities like Conor who is also had a lot of money but still wanting to make a comeback.

So we will see how Pacquaio will do if it really true that he will fight Mario Barrios in his comeback. Fans are still going to buy tickets and it could be a still a sold out for him. And if ever he wins then it's good that he recovered but I do not think that he will last that long in this division because of his age.

[cryptomaniac_xxx]

I don’t see any other motive here except money.

As for politics, he already lost, so there’s nothing to prepare for on that end. This comeback feels more like a financial move than anything else.

I tend to agree, and I believe it’s to compensate for his political losses.
IMO, I understand why it appears that money is the primary motive and goal behind Manny Pacquiao’s comeback, especially given the challenges he’s encountered in politics and his recent defeats.
(....)

Same thoughts. Even he already have a lot of money, and for sure that his losses in the recent election is just nothing for him.
But for sure, he still needs to make more money, and in his league: boxing. So I am expecting more fights from him, so more money.

Yeah, maybe it's nothing for him, but perhaps he was still puzzled at how he lost the election because for me I still think that people loves him. And maybe this is his plan B, in cases that he losses the election, he will go back to boxing again.

I don't know is the next election, as I read that this is just mid-term and so there is a bigger election coming in the next 2 years? So maybe after his fight in boxing, most likely he will go back and campaign again in the Philippines. So it's like boxing is just for him to get busy and clear his mind.

[Ziskinberg]

Yeah, maybe it's nothing for him, but perhaps he was still puzzled at how he lost the election because for me I still think that people loves him.

Me? I'm not confused at all. I already knew he was going to lose the moment he ditched Duterte and sided with the current administration.

Sure, Manny is loved by the people as he brought pride to the Philippines, no question there. But let's be honest… being a national sports hero doesn't automatically qualify you to write laws.  He only won before because of star power. But when it comes to brain power? Uhh… let’s just say he's punching below the belt.

[avp2306]

Still though, it's money that he can't recover because that he losses his bid. It's not like a investment that he can recover. Anyhow, let's see how it goes for him, there are personalities like Conor who is also had a lot of money but still wanting to make a comeback.

But even if he win try to imagine how he could recover that money he spent since the salary of Senators in Philippines is not enough to cover his total campaign expenses so provably that he would fall into corruption so that he can recover those money he throw from election. That's why he maybe think that getting a fight would be his last resort to recover those amount he loss.

There's huge chance that after Barrios if it will really happen next opponent of Pacquaio will be MCGregor since somehow this will catch lots of attention also more sales.

So we will see how Pacquaio will do if it really true that he will fight Mario Barrios in his comeback. Fans are still going to buy tickets and it could be a still a sold out for him. And if ever he wins then it's good that he recovered but I do not think that he will last that long in this division because of his age.

Pacquaio is well known boxing personality in the whole world so there's no question that there's still a lot of boxing fans would provably gonna watch his fight. There are still people want to see him fight even if they know that he's not so strong the same as before.

[Sanitough]

Pacquaio is well known boxing personality in the whole world so there's no question that there's still a lot of boxing fans would provably gonna watch his fight. There are still people want to see him fight even if they know that he's not so strong the same as before.

And he’s really taking advantage of that! Honestly, he could just do an exhibition fight probably wouldn’t make much difference in his earnings. But it looks like he loves the challenge and wants to go back pro, like he’s out to prove he can still be a champ.

Well, I hope his plan works out... but  age isn’t exactly a team player.

His mind might be willing but will the body cooperate?