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Author Topic: [Boxing] Mario Barrios vs Manny Pacquiao WBC Welterweight Title - July 19  (Read 2686 times)
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May 22, 2025, 07:28:29 AM
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As much as I want Manny to win, beating the younger and taller Barrios seems like a tough challenge. Even just lasting until the end of the match is uncertain. It's not that I'm belittling Pacman, but he's not just past his prime, he's past the age where he can fight and stay healthy without serious risks after the bout. There's nothing Pacman needs to prove at this rate. He has already accomplished a lot as a boxer. He should consider doing exhibition fights instead, which would still allow him to earn money while staying safe.



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May 22, 2025, 02:42:06 PM
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For me, Barrios isn't really a spectacular fighter. He's not a monster inside the ring. An old Manny and his fans shouldn't be worried a lot about his safety. Barrios isn't a knockout puncher. He doesn't have exceptional speed either, nor does he have amazing footwork ang movements.

He'd be eaten alive by Manny during his peak. But considering he's approaching 50, if he loses, it would certainly be on a unanimous decision. Pacquiao isn't anymore the volume puncher that he used to be. Mario might outpoint him.
Great insight men, I am browsing his fight and youre right. I think Manny can equally figth him regardless of age but of course we dont know the improvement on the other side. I will keep watching since Im a fan of Pacman though his political career isnt that good. Hioe he focuses on boxing instead.

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May 23, 2025, 03:03:38 PM
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For me, Barrios isn't really a spectacular fighter. He's not a monster inside the ring. An old Manny and his fans shouldn't be worried a lot about his safety. Barrios isn't a knockout puncher. He doesn't have exceptional speed either, nor does he have amazing footwork ang movements.

He'd be eaten alive by Manny during his peak. But considering he's approaching 50, if he loses, it would certainly be on a unanimous decision. Pacquiao isn't anymore the volume puncher that he used to be. Mario might outpoint him.
Great insight men, I am browsing his fight and youre right. I think Manny can equally figth him regardless of age but of course we dont know the improvement on the other side. I will keep watching since Im a fan of Pacman though his political career isnt that good. Hioe he focuses on boxing instead.

Yes, even his former opponents like Ricky Hatton is talking about this fight.

I can't find the videos, but Ricky said that Manny should take care of his health as well and that this is a dangerous fight for him. And he even talk about Manny becoming the number 5 contender but then skipped the number 1 or 2 to become the mandatory challenger.

We have discussed it already, but it boils down to Manny being Manny Pacquiao. He still is being love by the WBC that's why he suddenly become their mandatory fighter against Barrios.

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May 23, 2025, 03:08:41 PM
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Yes, even his former opponents like Ricky Hatton is talking about this fight.

I can't find the videos, but Ricky said that Manny should take care of his health as well and that this is a dangerous fight for him. And he even talk about Manny becoming the number 5 contender but then skipped the number 1 or 2 to become the mandatory challenger.
Oh I wanted to see this interview and scope of Ricky Hatton. His probably concern about Manny, they fought before and honestly the fight was so fast it seems he didnt expect a heavy punch from pacmans really kicking in. Maybe because he is still willing to fight plus everybody loves when Pacman is figting.

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May 23, 2025, 04:40:39 PM
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For me, Barrios isn't really a spectacular fighter. He's not a monster inside the ring. An old Manny and his fans shouldn't be worried a lot about his safety. Barrios isn't a knockout puncher. He doesn't have exceptional speed either, nor does he have amazing footwork ang movements.

He'd be eaten alive by Manny during his peak. But considering he's approaching 50, if he loses, it would certainly be on a unanimous decision. Pacquiao isn't anymore the volume puncher that he used to be. Mario might outpoint him.
Great insight men, I am browsing his fight and youre right. I think Manny can equally figth him regardless of age but of course we dont know the improvement on the other side. I will keep watching since Im a fan of Pacman though his political career isnt that good. Hioe he focuses on boxing instead.

That's a good analysis, too. Maybe that's why the WBC considers him for a title fight. Many think Barrios is not a dangerous fighter to face. It's going to be an endurance fight for Manny. He will have to accumulate points in the early rounds or even stop him.
If it goes to the championship rounds, he might lose the fight because that's when Barrios' youth and endurance will shine.
Whatever happened in this fight, I want Manny to be safe and for him to realize that he needs to go to other fields in boxing, not inside the ring, but outside, where he can help other fighters.



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May 24, 2025, 04:53:10 AM
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On shadiness, this can be argued. However, this is also Manny Pacman Pacquiao who wants to fight again. This humble boxer has brought much money and attention to the sport. How can the promoters and the WBC ignore this boxer?

If the money is the only thing on the stake, then why WBC and Barrios? Pacmans manager should have bend over and try to organize a fight against a much bigger star. Mayweather earn for an exhibition fight, where there is zero danger for him and his legacy millions. Why cant Pacman follow Mayweather path? There are plenty of easy money for Pacman, yet instead he choices to challenge himself at such age. Make a fight against Canelo and retire finally with lots of $$$ in pocket.

This is very much certainly because this is Manny Pacman Pacquiao! This is one of the biggest names in boxing and a boxer who is being argued as the greatest of all time. He does not need to fight a bigger star. Pacman is the star. I am very much certain that if Barrios fought another boxer, this fight would not have the same type of attention that Barrios is receiving presently. If you are a Barrios fan, you should be thankful hhehehehe.

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This is very much certainly because this is Manny Pacman Pacquiao! This is one of the biggest names in boxing and a boxer who is being argued as the greatest of all time. He does not need to fight a bigger star. Pacman is the star. I am very much certain that if Barrios fought another boxer, this fight would not have the same type of attention that Barrios is receiving presently. If you are a Barrios fan, you should be thankful hhehehehe.

Yeah, definitely, any boxer would love the chance to fight Pacman just for the exposure alone. Even though Barrios is the current champion and going up against an older legend, he shouldn’t get overconfident. We all know what Manny can still do as he’s got power in both hands.

And what if he shocks everyone and becomes champion again? Just imagine that. It would be like Manny making a comeback, and it could mean more active years ahead and of course, more money coming in.

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And what if he shocks everyone and becomes champion again? Just imagine that. It would be like Manny making a comeback, and it could mean more active years ahead and of course, more money coming in.
I'm a fan of Manny Pacquiao from back then, but now I feel halfhearted due to the inactivity in his boxing career.
Look, Barrios has a 16-year age advantage over Manny Pacquiao, and Barrios is also very active, being a world champion.  We clearly remember that Barrios beat Ugas, whom Manny lost to in his last fight, so the chances of Manny Pacquiao winning this fight are very slim.  I'm not trying to bring him down, but I'm considering the possibility that he can't defeat Barrios.

For now, let's wait for this event to come.
Do you think this will be his last fight, or will he have another match?





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For now, let's wait for this event to come.
Do you think this will be his last fight, or will he have another match?

I guess it all depends on his performance in this fight. If he wins, for sure more fights will come. But even if he loses, and it’s a close, entertaining match where fans aren’t fully convinced he lost there’s a good chance of a rematch.

Either way, that means a huge amount of money is waiting for both fighters. No matter how you look at it, Barrios benefits a lot from this, even though he’s the current champion. Now I’m just wondering... what’s the revenue split between them?

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For now, let's wait for this event to come.
Do you think this will be his last fight, or will he have another match?
I guess it all depends on his performance in this fight. If he wins, for sure more fights will come. But even if he loses, and it’s a close, entertaining match where fans aren’t fully convinced he lost there’s a good chance of a rematch.

Either way, that means a huge amount of money is waiting for both fighters. No matter how you look at it, Barrios benefits a lot from this, even though he’s the current champion. Now I’m just wondering... what’s the revenue split between them?

I don't think they will disclose the purse split here. But we will surely have some idea as more than likely, boxing sites will have their own opinion about this. And besides, let's really have serious discussion on this if we both camps confirm that this match is actually happening.
If Pacquiao will will on this, definitely, he will have more to come. So yes, let's see what will happen next.

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And what if he shocks everyone and becomes champion again? Just imagine that. It would be like Manny making a comeback, and it could mean more active years ahead and of course, more money coming in.
I'm a fan of Manny Pacquiao from back then, but now I feel halfhearted due to the inactivity in his boxing career.
Look, Barrios has a 16-year age advantage over Manny Pacquiao, and Barrios is also very active, being a world champion.  We clearly remember that Barrios beat Ugas, whom Manny lost to in his last fight, so the chances of Manny Pacquiao winning this fight are very slim.  I'm not trying to bring him down, but I'm considering the possibility that he can't defeat Barrios.

For now, let's wait for this event to come.
Do you think this will be his last fight, or will he have another match?
Fighting with Barrios is like a "testing grounds" for Pacquiao if he still has it or not. This is a fight for him to see whether he can still do it at 46 years old or not.

I'm a huge Pacquiao fan, but his prime years are long over already. We know that in any sports, the older you are, the lower the stamina and endurance you have. Trying to say that he can't defeat Barrios isn't a form of "bringing him down", but just saying the reality of it. On the other hand, Pacquiao is on training already, and I guess the best thing to do right now is to wait on how he will be performing on July 19th, then from there, we will see if Pacquiao can still do it or not.

Just for context as well, the oldest title holder in boxing history is Bernard Hopkins at 46 years old. It's the same as Pacquiao so I guess he's trying to beat that record? I don't have the time to look at the months and days though.

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This is very much certainly because this is Manny Pacman Pacquiao! This is one of the biggest names in boxing and a boxer who is being argued as the greatest of all time. He does not need to fight a bigger star. Pacman is the star. I am very much certain that if Barrios fought another boxer, this fight would not have the same type of attention that Barrios is receiving presently. If you are a Barrios fan, you should be thankful hhehehehe.

Yeah, definitely, any boxer would love the chance to fight Pacman just for the exposure alone. Even though Barrios is the current champion and going up against an older legend, he shouldn’t get overconfident. We all know what Manny can still do as he’s got power in both hands.

And what if he shocks everyone and becomes champion again? Just imagine that. It would be like Manny making a comeback, and it could mean more active years ahead and of course, more money coming in.

Agreed. This will be a good deal for both Manny Pacman and Mario Barrios! The younger boxer Barrios will get a chance to fight a living legend and if he gets the victory, this will be a big name in his record. On the legend Pacman, this will also be a chance to get another championship. If he gets the victory, this will certainly be a proof that he is a bigger legend than Floyd Mayweather. Pacman is not afraid to risk another loss, however, Mayweather is very much afraid because a loss would not be very good for his undefeated record.

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I don't think they will disclose the purse split here. But we will surely have some idea as more than likely, boxing sites will have their own opinion about this. And besides, let's really have serious discussion on this if we both camps confirm that this match is actually happening.
If Pacquiao will will on this, definitely, he will have more to come. So yes, let's see what will happen next.

Most of the time, the revenue split gets disclosed, so maybe we just have to wait and see. But honestly, if it’s a 50-50 split, that’s already fair as Pacman’s presence alone brings back the energy and excitement in boxing.

To be honest, since he left, I haven’t really seen champions who are willing to fight the toughest opponents. Most of them only take fights when they’re confident they can win, even if the matchup ends up being boring because it’s a clear mismatch.

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I don't think they will disclose the purse split here. But we will surely have some idea as more than likely, boxing sites will have their own opinion about this. And besides, let's really have serious discussion on this if we both camps confirm that this match is actually happening.
If Pacquiao will will on this, definitely, he will have more to come. So yes, let's see what will happen next.

Most of the time, the revenue split gets disclosed, so maybe we just have to wait and see. But honestly, if it’s a 50-50 split, that’s already fair as Pacman’s presence alone brings back the energy and excitement in boxing.

But I don't think that the split is 50/50, Manny should still be the A-side here, despite being out and not the champion. I'm speculating that maybe a 60/40 is good for Barrios and this could be his biggest purse.

To be honest, since he left, I haven’t really seen champions who are willing to fight the toughest opponents. Most of them only take fights when they’re confident they can win, even if the matchup ends up being boring because it’s a clear mismatch.

You can check the legendary George Foreman's comeback fight against Michael Moorer, as he knockout Moorer to become the oldest Heavyweight champion. He was at the same age of Manny right now at 45 years old when he fought and make a comeback.

 
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The question is that, is Pacman still has it to dethrone the current WBC welterweight champion Mario Barrios or the latter will send Pacman to retirement for good.
Your though guys?

Oh man I cannot wait for this fight to happen! As a Filipino who grew up watching Pacquiao fight, I just cannot contain my excitement to see him on the ring once again.

Given the age disparity between Barrios (30 years old) vs Manny Pacquiao (46 years old), the fight may be somehow difficult for Manny to keep up. But with his experience on the ring and tons of opponents he already faced, I give him the edge on this fight. The question is, will we see an explosive Pacquiao that will be aggressive all-throughout the match or will he be more calculated and careful with his punches and movements?

At the end of the day, it is truly a blessing to see Pacquiao once again to step inside the ring given his current age. Perhaps this could be his last fight before he retires; that is why we should all be blessed to see him in the ring once again and see his explosiveness in the ring without any running!



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May 25, 2025, 08:15:22 AM
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Yes, even his former opponents like Ricky Hatton is talking about this fight.

I can't find the videos, but Ricky said that Manny should take care of his health as well and that this is a dangerous fight for him. And he even talk about Manny becoming the number 5 contender but then skipped the number 1 or 2 to become the mandatory challenger.
Oh I wanted to see this interview and scope of Ricky Hatton. His probably concern about Manny, they fought before and honestly the fight was so fast it seems he didnt expect a heavy punch from pacmans really kicking in. Maybe because he is still willing to fight plus everybody loves when Pacman is figting.

It just go on my feed while browsing Tiktok and so I didn't save the video. Although I try to go on Youtube to see that clip, so far I can't fight it. I'll post it once I see once again in my fyp.

But I can share one video I found: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nFlWzlhQbao

It's Manny started his training, but it looks like he is old already and there are a lot of huffing from what I observed. Although there are a lot of weeks ahead of this fight, so maybe this is just a start for him.

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May 25, 2025, 01:08:02 PM
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This is for real really as the betting odds are out..

https://www.si.com/fannation/boxing/opening-manny-pacquiao-vs-mario-barrios-betting-odds-say-it-all
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DraftKings released its opening odds for Pacquiao vs Barrios, and it has the soon-to-be Hall of Famer as a significant underdog at +340. Barrios is a -500 favorite heading into the second defense of his title.

Pacman is a +340 underdog, that’s honestly pretty tempting. I might put a small bet on him, just to show my support.

You know how it is, it’s always more fun to watch the fight when you’ve got a little something riding on it.
So of course, Manny can count on my bet.

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May 25, 2025, 01:58:36 PM
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Pacman is a +340 underdog, that’s honestly pretty tempting. I might put a small bet on him, just to show my support.

Definitely some juicy odds here. The last time I saw odds like this for Pacman was back when he wasn’t even that popular yet.

But it’s understandable as he retired and now he’s making a comeback at an older age. I guess it all depends on whether you’re willing to take the risk. If you truly believe in him, you won’t focus on his age or how long he’s been inactive, you’ll just trust your gut, even if it’s a bit biased. So all i can say now is good luck and hope that one hits.

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May 25, 2025, 04:01:58 PM
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It's Manny started his training, but it looks like he is old already and there are a lot of huffing from what I observed. Although there are a lot of weeks ahead of this fight, so maybe this is just a start for him.
It could be, but I wouldn't be surprised if he doesn't get to his peak condition within the 7 weeks he has before the fight, even if he goes through intense training, I mean, the guy has been retired for 4 years, and his age is a big factor too. that being said, I am still excited and curious how this fight will go. It would be incredible to see if Pacquiao manages to beat Barrios.

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May 25, 2025, 04:17:21 PM
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The question is that, is Pacman still has it to dethrone the current WBC welterweight champion Mario Barrios or the latter will send Pacman to retirement for good.
Of those two things, one must happen on the said day. It's just a matter of time before your question is answered. In all honesty, I want Manny Pacquiao to win that bout; even though I think he should've continued to remain retired out of boxing so he could squarely face his political ambition. I'm excited, just like I did in Tyson Fury and Oleksandr Usyk fight. I can't wait for July.

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