Old Multibit Classic & Schildbach Bitcoin Wallet Recovery Services

[MainIbem]

Office= where we have accounting documents, meetings, light equipment
Lab = secret location with servers and customer data, never meet IRL, just just address for dropping hardware in those countries

Its a security risk to bring people to lab

/KX

Since you’ve not extended your secret lab location to other continents, are you going to reconsider having an office in those continents in future and when, I mean the time frame for that or is it that its never going to be possible and you're comfortable with the location where your current labs and offices are situated, anyways I love that you made clarity on the difference between your lab and office to avoid confusion, and I also love that you're very security conscious concerning clients properties and informations.

[Odohu]

Have you ever partnered with another wallet recovery company in order to recover passwords from tough devices, maybe extremely damaged one or are you a stand alone company at all times, working on the recovery of wallet passwords all on your own without any form of external help whatsoever from other companies, and if you have partnered with any other company in the past then can you share the information here, if you have always worked alone though then has a different company ever offered to work with you in the past??

Wallet recovery is not like your conventional business where partnerships are done and made public because I believe it is based on algorithms and programs that people guide jealously and may not be willing to give it out to a another person. I may be wrong but that is how I see the business which made me doubt partnership will be possible. But there is no wrong is sharing technology if such venture will be profitable to both parties.

[keychainX]

We have developed our own inhouse tools, of course lots of people use open source like Hashcat or BTC Recover, but those have bugs and wont open all wallets.

Our company is a Swiss registered company and we have been around since 2017, so there you go, pretty much public company.

We also sponsor many conferences like BTC Last Vegas last month and now BTC Hong Kong in August.

Link here:
https://asia.b.tc/sponsor

/KX

Have you ever partnered with another wallet recovery company in order to recover passwords from tough devices, maybe extremely damaged one or are you a stand alone company at all times, working on the recovery of wallet passwords all on your own without any form of external help whatsoever from other companies, and if you have partnered with any other company in the past then can you share the information here, if you have always worked alone though then has a different company ever offered to work with you in the past??

Hi

Yes we have been offered help from most of the top 5 recovery companies. We have shared info with a few of them when there are 'overlapping' cases or fraud prevention, but 99% of the work has been done inhouse.

In a few cases we have used external consultants when there is a hardware device that needs to be unlocked, also without mentioning who as we are using always NDAs

anything else let us know!

/KX!

[keychainX]

Office= where we have accounting documents, meetings, light equipment
Lab = secret location with servers and customer data, never meet IRL, just just address for dropping hardware in those countries

Its a security risk to bring people to lab

/KX

Since you’ve not extended your secret lab location to other continents, are you going to reconsider having an office in those continents in future and when, I mean the time frame for that or is it that its never going to be possible and you're comfortable with the location where your current labs and offices are situated, anyways I love that you made clarity on the difference between your lab and office to avoid confusion, and I also love that you're very security conscious concerning clients properties and informations.

Yes of course, although office is an 'old' concept and most people work 'on the road'. Although we have partnerships in many countries where local individuals act like ambassadors and generate leads for us

And we are not only concerned for clients, but also for our co-workers as you can understand

/KX

[keychainX]

Have you ever partnered with another wallet recovery company in order to recover passwords from tough devices, maybe extremely damaged one or are you a stand alone company at all times, working on the recovery of wallet passwords all on your own without any form of external help whatsoever from other companies, and if you have partnered with any other company in the past then can you share the information here, if you have always worked alone though then has a different company ever offered to work with you in the past??

Wallet recovery is not like your conventional business where partnerships are done and made public because I believe it is based on algorithms and programs that people guide jealously and may not be willing to give it out to a another person. I may be wrong but that is how I see the business which made me doubt partnership will be possible. But there is no wrong is sharing technology if such venture will be profitable to both parties.

Its like with every business, does OPENAI and X (GROK) share info?

[Zackz5000]

Hi

Yes we have been offered help from most of the top 5 recovery companies. We have shared info with a few of them when there are 'overlapping' cases or fraud prevention, but 99% of the work has been done inhouse.

In a few cases we have used external consultants when there is a hardware device that needs to be unlocked, also without mentioning who as we are using always NDAs

anything else let us know!

/KX!

Nice, I suppose smart recognizes smart
So about case of fraud prevention how does this work? I understand that you don't handle cases related to scam or maybe I misread the information that was made available, so do you mean you can recover passwords lost due to situations related to 'fraud' and/or 'scam' or do you work strictly on accidentally lost passwords, if you do recover passwords lost due to fraud how often is this successful??

[keychainX]

Hi

Yes we have been offered help from most of the top 5 recovery companies. We have shared info with a few of them when there are 'overlapping' cases or fraud prevention, but 99% of the work has been done inhouse.

In a few cases we have used external consultants when there is a hardware device that needs to be unlocked, also without mentioning who as we are using always NDAs

anything else let us know!

/KX!

Nice, I suppose smart recognizes smart
So about case of fraud prevention how does this work? I understand that you don't handle cases related to scam or maybe I misread the information that was made available, so do you mean you can recover passwords lost due to situations related to 'fraud' and/or 'scam' or do you work strictly on accidentally lost passwords, if you do recover passwords lost due to fraud how often is this successful??

No we dont do fraud, but sometimes we get stolen of forged wallets.
For fraud or scams we forward to a law firm
We only recover passwords from encrypted wallets
/KX

[Ronsbit]

Yes we have been offered help from most of the top 5 recovery companies. We have shared info with a few of them when there are 'overlapping' cases or fraud prevention, but 99% of the work has been done inhouse.

In a few cases we have used external consultants when there is a hardware device that needs to be unlocked, also without mentioning who as we are using always NDAs

anything else let us know!

/KX!

Using an external consultant is not bad, and as a matter of fact, it adds to both parties' portfolios and serves as a reference for them. Before such an occurrence, an NDA must have been undertaken to prevent any breach in agreement or duty of this nature because it is very sensitive, and they would need to have a binding understanding that everyone must work by so that there would be no issues in the course of delivering their services. As a big organisation, orderliness and coordination should be taken seriously so that they do not get themselves into trouble. OP, do you not think it will be alright to quote and reply to all the posts on one page rather than replying one for one? I thought such is not allowed here on this forum.

[CryptSafe]

Office= where we have accounting documents, meetings, light equipment
Lab = secret location with servers and customer data, never meet IRL, just just address for dropping hardware in those countries

Its a security risk to bring people to lab

/KX

I will not even advise any organisation to do such because these days funny things happen, as you do not know the intention of the person you are taking to the lab when such a person is not a staff member or is affiliated with your organisation, and not even a government official on official duty. It is better if the person stays at your office than to let them into your lab. Labs are basically for major work, and most discreet activities of the organisation's production capacity and abilities are kept there, and I do not believe any reasonable organisation would just take or allow any individual to enter without any prior notice or not follow procedures before accessing the lab.

[MainIbem]

Yes of course, although office is an 'old' concept and most people work 'on the road'. Although we have partnerships in many countries where local individuals act like ambassadors and generate leads for us

And we are not only concerned for clients, but also for our co-workers as you can understand

/KX

Interesting, makes lots of sense, so since have you local individuals who act as your ambassador in several countries, is there any of your partner or ambassador in Africa that people over there can reach out to, instead of sending their device to your lab in Europe? it would make more sense if there's any and I'll appreciate a lead or contact maybe media handle of such persons if possible. It's good you look out for both your clients an partners across the globe.

[Bushdark]

You're misunderstanding him, I made a point concerning why the company's not advertising their services officially in the forum with a sig campaign or so since they made mention in their site that they've gained lots of trusts over the years and with that being said they should've gained trust and build reputation in the forum too over time, he seconded it that the forum is meant to be one of the greatest tool for publication which makes lots of sense for people who claim to have gained trust over time, or don't you think they should officially have their own campaign to gain more trust and reputation here?

I don't think this is a kind of service that should be advertised here in the forum because the service is not available for everyone except people that have lost password or have issues with recovering their wallet seed phrases.
And also launching a signature campaign on the forum is not a guarantee that they are going to get trusted by everyone except when people start using their wallet recovery service with a good review.

[Proty]

Hi

Yes we have been offered help from most of the top 5 recovery companies. We have shared info with a few of them when there are 'overlapping' cases or fraud prevention, but 99% of the work has been done inhouse.

In a few cases we have used external consultants when there is a hardware device that needs to be unlocked, also without mentioning who as we are using always NDAs

anything else let us know!

/KX!

Nice, I suppose smart recognizes smart
So about case of fraud prevention how does this work? I understand that you don't handle cases related to scam or maybe I misread the information that was made available, so do you mean you can recover passwords lost due to situations related to 'fraud' and/or 'scam' or do you work strictly on accidentally lost passwords, if you do recover passwords lost due to fraud how often is this successful??

No we dont do fraud, but sometimes we get stolen of forged wallets.
For fraud or scams we forward to a law firm
We only recover passwords from encrypted wallets
/KX

It really sound interesting, however I would like to know how people are supposed to know about this? Because there is no one that is into scam that will come out to tell people that he wants to scam , that he is a scammer. However people will definitely needs some kind of evidence to accertain the integrity of your service before they can be able to trust your service. Since it is hard to trust people in this space especially when wallet recovery is involved.

[keychainX]

Hi

Yes we have been offered help from most of the top 5 recovery companies. We have shared info with a few of them when there are 'overlapping' cases or fraud prevention, but 99% of the work has been done inhouse.

In a few cases we have used external consultants when there is a hardware device that needs to be unlocked, also without mentioning who as we are using always NDAs

anything else let us know!

/KX!

Nice, I suppose smart recognizes smart
So about case of fraud prevention how does this work? I understand that you don't handle cases related to scam or maybe I misread the information that was made available, so do you mean you can recover passwords lost due to situations related to 'fraud' and/or 'scam' or do you work strictly on accidentally lost passwords, if you do recover passwords lost due to fraud how often is this successful??

No we dont do fraud, but sometimes we get stolen of forged wallets.
For fraud or scams we forward to a law firm
We only recover passwords from encrypted wallets
/KX

It really sound interesting, however I would like to know how people are supposed to know about this? Because there is no one that is into scam that will come out to tell people that he wants to scam , that he is a scammer. However people will definitely needs some kind of evidence to accertain the integrity of your service before they can be able to trust your service. Since it is hard to trust people in this space especially when wallet recovery is involved.

Trust goes both ways. You are free to choose whoever you like. We also decline recovery to people we feel uncomfortable with. If you need fraud or scam recovery you should contact a law firm

/KX

[Zackz5000]

I will not even advise any organisation to do such because these days funny things happen, as you do not know the intention of the person you are taking to the lab when such a person is not a staff member or is affiliated with your organisation, and not even a government official on official duty. It is better if the person stays at your office than to let them into your lab. Labs are basically for major work, and most discreet activities of the organisation's production capacity and abilities are kept there, and I do not believe any reasonable organisation would just take or allow any individual to enter without any prior notice or not follow procedures before accessing the lab.

This is a crypto wallet password recovery service after all, meaning that at any given time, they potentially have access to the contents of the wallets whose password they may have recovered so it's not very safe to bring outsiders to the lab where the recovery is done since you can never really tell who is who these days, the person allowed into the lab might be there to sabotage there place one way or the other and such an act can be bad for business.

[Bushdark]

No we dont do fraud, but sometimes we get stolen of forged wallets.
For fraud or scams we forward to a law firm
We only recover passwords from encrypted wallets
/KX

It really sound interesting, however I would like to know how people are supposed to know about this? Because there is no one that is into scam that will come out to tell people that he wants to scam , that he is a scammer. However people will definitely needs some kind of evidence to accertain the integrity of your service before they can be able to trust your service. Since it is hard to trust people in this space especially when wallet recovery is involved.

Trust is something that is built and from what I have seen, people that have used a service would have to give a review about their experience for people to know some certain things about the service. Like sharing experience on how long it takes to recover a wallet, procedures and price range. This will help people that want to use the service to have an hint about what it entails. What I'm emphasizing on is that maybe if the KeycahinX team ask for a review from customers, it will be helpful in this community.
Since KeychainX is a registered company that supports the Asia BTC conference, then they could be reliable to an extent.
 My opinion only!

[Futurexxx]

It really sound interesting, however I would like to know how people are supposed to know about this? Because there is no one that is into scam that will come out to tell people that he wants to scam , that he is a scammer. However people will definitely needs some kind of evidence to accertain the integrity of your service before they can be able to trust your service. Since it is hard to trust people in this space especially when wallet recovery is involved.

Trust goes both ways. You are free to choose whoever you like. We also decline recovery to people we feel uncomfortable with. If you need fraud or scam recovery you should contact a law firm

/KX

Comm'on man, you don't need to be pissed off here, if you were in his shoe, you will do the same, because wallet recovery has been used to defraud a lot of people in the space, so he needs to be convinced that keychainx are different.
And yea, trust goes both ways, but am curious to ask, what are the trait a client will exhibit that will make keychainx reject working for such fellow, because they feels uncomfortable working for them?

[Odohu]

You're misunderstanding him, I made a point concerning why the company's not advertising their services officially in the forum with a sig campaign or so since they made mention in their site that they've gained lots of trusts over the years and with that being said they should've gained trust and build reputation in the forum too over time, he seconded it that the forum is meant to be one of the greatest tool for publication which makes lots of sense for people who claim to have gained trust over time, or don't you think they should officially have their own campaign to gain more trust and reputation here?

I don't think this is a kind of service that should be advertised here in the forum because the service is not available for everyone except people that have lost password or have issues with recovering their wallet seed phrases.
And also launching a signature campaign on the forum is not a guarantee that they are going to get trusted by everyone except when people start using their wallet recovery service with a good review.

Every company have their way of going Abuja their marketing and can chose whichever method they deem fit to achieve their target. Running a signature campaign here will depend on how big they are and if they have the finances to fund that but it will definitely worth it as it will show that they are serious. It's all about what they consider important to them and that is where they will channel their marketing resources to.

[CryptSafe]

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This is a crypto wallet password recovery service after all, meaning that at any given time, they potentially have access to the contents of the wallets whose password they may have recovered so it's not very safe to bring outsiders to the lab where the recovery is done since you can never really tell who is who these days, the person allowed into the lab might be there to sabotage there place one way or the other and such an act can be bad for business.

Before anyone is granted access to the lab, there must be some procedures that must be met, likewise, employment of staff as well, because they just can not be allowed in without any prior notification of their intentions. A lab is a very sensitive place to be, irrespective of the nature of the engagement done there. This is why some organisations always put up caution signs before the entrance for anyone approaching to be aware before they come in, so they are not taken unawares.

[Gentle_Soul]

I will not even advise any organisation to do such because these days funny things happen, as you do not know the intention of the person you are taking to the lab when such a person is not a staff member or is affiliated with your organisation, and not even a government official on official duty. It is better if the person stays at your office than to let them into your lab. Labs are basically for major work, and most discreet activities of the organisation's production capacity and abilities are kept there, and I do not believe any reasonable organisation would just take or allow any individual to enter without any prior notice or not follow procedures before accessing the lab.

This is a crypto wallet password recovery service after all, meaning that at any given time, they potentially have access to the contents of the wallets whose password they may have recovered so it's not very safe to bring outsiders to the lab where the recovery is done since you can never really tell who is who these days, the person allowed into the lab might be there to sabotage there place one way or the other and such an act can be bad for business.

Basically the lab weather in medical sector , pharmacitical or organizational settings is not a place for every one to just enter because you have a job to do with the facility rather it's supposed to be strictly for lab staff .
There can be an outer office where people come and lay there complains make payments if necessary but definitely not in the lab, for me there is absolutely no difference with this lab and every other because a lot will be exposed to the public if it's public and left  for anyone to access at anytime .

Informations are to be designated to different aspects of the office for people to know where exactly they are supposed to be and where to channel there   the request to at every given time

[Bushdark]

kind of service that should be advertised here in the forum because the service is not available for everyone except people that have lost password or have issues with recovering their wallet seed phrases.
And also launching a signature campaign on the forum is not a guarantee that they are going to get trusted by everyone except when people start using their wallet recovery service with a good review.

Every company have their way of going Abuja their marketing and can chose whichever method they deem fit to achieve their target. Running a signature campaign here will depend on how big they are and if they have the finances to fund that but it will definitely worth it as it will show that they are serious. It's all about what they consider important to them and that is where they will channel their marketing resources to.

I think the main problem here would be finance just like you have mentioned and it will require at least some funding for few weeks of the team ever have in mind to run a signature campaign for their service. I have seen few projects fun a signature campaign and after few weeks, they ended it because of lack of funding. Running a signature campaign so depend on the management and the amount the team might have in budget to run it for some weeks. This is marketing and exposure of brand is important to create more awareness in the community.