The perfect identify for a Nigerian whose major source of income is Bitcointalk

[CryptoHeadlineNews]

Recently, a thought have been running in my heads, that as a Bitcointalk member, what could be the perfect phrase or context to describe someone whose major source of income comes from this forum, that is by partaking on signature campaigns? That is he/she to be addressed as a Bitcoin entrepreneur? Or is he to be addressed as a Bitcoin influencer or rather a Bitcoin content creator? Because literally I'm sure there are a lot of Nigerians here whose major source of income is from this forum Bitcointalk. And as such, I thought there was a need for me to address this on this thread, by identifying the very right phrase to address members on this forum who earns their major source of income here through signature campaign.  Because to be frankly speaking, I have been opporturned to come across few members of this forum who unfortunately were apprehended by law enforcement agencies (i.e Police and EFCC) and when been asked what they do for a living, they lied while one claiming to be a forex trader and the other claiming to be a Content creator, which eventually we all know that's not the right phrase to describe a member of this forum who makes a full time living while earning from signature campaigns, since the major activity we engage on this forum is "Bitcoin Discussion", and as such,  I thought the right phrase to be used for a user who creates content and earns money on this forum ought to be called a "Bitcoin Discusser", and not a forex trader or  content creator, just as those guys claimed when been asked what they do for a living by those law enforcement agencies e.g the Police and EFCC.

Because, the earlier you know the best way to defend yourself if eventually you happens to come across such scenario whereby you encounter Police or EFCC, and eventually got held of your mobile phone and saw apps like Binance, Trust Wallets and Bybit and tagged you as a Yahoo Boy, when eventually you are a legit hustler, the better for you. Hence, if anybody ask you from today henceforth what you do for a living, is best you answer that you are a "Bitcoin Discusser" whereby you earn money by discussing about Bitcoin on its official forum.



So below is a pictorial representation of the best phrase to be identified as when next apprehended by law enforcement agencies, so as not to be wrongly tagged a Yahoo boy;

Main purpose of this thread:

1. To help our Nigerian brothers to know that Bitcoin participation can actually be taken as a full time time (i.e Signature campaign), and when been asked what they do for a living, they should be able to be bold to tell people that they are a Bitcoin discusser (i.e earn money by discussing about Bitcoin).

2. To be able to let our Nigerian brothers know that Bitcoin discussion on the Bitcointalk forum is not a fraud or neither is it a crime. Hence, they should be proud of it.

3. To be able to let people know that Bitcoin has come to stay, as both a currency and an asset to hold unto future investment, hence, it's wise they give it a try that is never too late.

     



Conclusion:

So in conclusion, I wish to hope that with everything been said above, you all could have understood that there is a big difference between a forex trader, Bitcoin influencer, or Bitcoin content creators, as the true phrase for someone who partakes and engage in discussion on the Bitcointalk forum is meant to be officially called a "Bitcoin discusser" or "Bitcoin Talker".

[Hatchy]

It sounds lame. I think a better name would be a bitcoin enthusiast. Meaning you are a primary supporter of BTC. It doesn't matter how you support it. it can be through investment, or being a member of a community.

Fact is, the forum can be a place where you can consider as a start up for someone who doesn't have something doing in the main time. But if you manage to grow an account and join signature campaign, won't it be smart to take your money and find something to start up?

How sure are you that there would always be a signature campaign? We saw how mixers were removed last year, so I'll advice anyone who takes the  forum as a source of income to be wiser and take some earned money to start something else. It can be a physical business or online business, but don't depend on the forum and feel relaxed so when an unforeseen situation happens, you won't seem frustrated.

[WhoYouCantKill]

The truth is that, just the fact that name of this community is called Bitcointalk doesn't mean the only thing that's been talked about here is bitcoin, yes because there are several topics that are being discussed here too. In fact, majority of the signature campaigns here don't even care whether you make Bitcoin related posts or contributions to the community. It's sad to say, but there are people amongst us here who are actively earning from this community either via signature campaigns or other areas but are not grounded in Bitcoin knowledge, if they're been asked a few basic questions about Bitcoin, you'd be shocked to hear their answers. We can't deny there ain't people like that amongst us, so would such a person still claim to be a Bitcoin discussed? And if so, what if he's actually arrested by the cops or EFCC as you said, and maybe he's asked a few questions about Bitcoin which he's unable to answer, what do you think would be the fate of such a person?

[Joy_learns_crypto]

The first and main aim of bitcoin forum was to create an atmosphere a conducive one at that where people can discuss about bitcoin and cryptocurrency, this is the reason why many found out about the forum. Every other thing are just added extras like the service board where you get the signature campaign. The case of the Mixers signature campaign being removed shows that the forum won’t waste time to remove anything that can threaten the reputation of the forum and that includes any type of signature campaign.

And when you are asked about what you do as regard your sources of income you don’t owe any one anything to start formulating a name, you simply can say that you are a freelancer.

[CryptoHeadlineNews]

It sounds lame. I think a better name would be a bitcoin enthusiast. Meaning you are a primary supporter of BTC. It doesn't matter how you support it. .

Of course, it actually do matter how you support it, because the word "Bitcoin enthusiast" is actually a broad phrase that is no specific, which is why in this thread I was trying to narrow it down to a certain sets of people who fully engage in  Bitcoin discussion and are lucky to be rewarded. Because we all know that a Miner might be a Bitcoin enthusiast, that that same Miner might not be a discusser, simply because he/she is not discussing about Bitcoin on any forum or platforms, but just focused on mining. And likewise a p2p trader might be a Bitcoin enthusiast, but not a discusser, simply because he is only focused on only trading Bitcoin to fists. Which is why on this thread I decided to be more specific. Because using the phrase "Bitcoin discusser" seems to be more specific.

what if he's actually arrested by the cops or EFCC as you said, and maybe he's asked a few questions about Bitcoin which he's unable to answer, what do you think would be the fate of such a person?

I doubt for any user on this forum to have achieved 100 merits from Newbie to Full Member and not made a single Bitcoin related discussion that got him merits, and as such, despite the fact that most signature campaigns no longer care of it's participants make post on Bitcoin related topics, it's ought to have been understood to that user must have known the basics regarding Bitcoin while growing from Newbie to Full Member on this forum. And as such, if eventually you happens to get interrogated by the caps and asked you a question about Bitcoin, at least you should be able to know who invented Bitcoin, the day it was invented, the total market supply, it's current price and other common terms been used in Bitcoin related discussions, such as KYC, CEX, DEX p2p and e.t.c.

And when you are asked about what you do as regard your sources of income you don’t owe any one anything to start formulating a name, you simply can say that you are a freelancer.

But the word freelancer is still a broader phrase, which is why in this thread I was trying to narrow it down to be more specific.

[Ruttoshi]

People can say that they do something else because Nigeria government was never friendly to crypto adoption in Nigeria and that has made a lot of people in this forum or outside the forum who are into bitcoin will not want to disclose to the police that they earn through their involvement in bitcoin discussions.

What I tell people if they ask me what I do for a living, I tell them that I am an online promoter. If they ask me which company, I tell them any company that needs my service. I don't even say if AI am involved in bitcoin or not. It's when you are very close to me and you want to know more, I explain at length.

[Churchillvv]

This question if what do you do for a living has been deliberated on severally however it has become a re-occuring issue of identity (what to identify as job in the society).

It may not sit well with a lot of users here because the forum is not a place of job or your are not employed here on the forum but rather make some extra earns by advertising companies within a little space of signature and avatar.

Considering other variables before conclusion, one can agree that we have several other opportunities here on the forum and not just paid signatures, we have Shillers, graphics designers etc who earn for offering services. hence we can not say that because we are participants on different signatures that is a forum of work.

Furthermore, to buttress the whole idea of what you do for a living, according to Theymos, the forum is creating an opportunity to earn while engaging in the community discussion hence to boost bitcoin stronghood by having a community of supporters.

If you consider all this, I think one is no different from those who run ads on social media and the rest of it, hence whatever one calls those who runs ads on socials should also be the same as one who advertises different companies and earn from it. if truly the cases of identifying what one does to law enforcement.

The word Brand Advertiser is more broad and covers both paid signatures and shilling, it also includes creative advertisers which has to do with designing and the rest of it, hence I prefer to call one a brand advertiser if your source of income is sole on the forum which shouldn't be though.

Considering this, I also had a rational thought on the different campaigns one participates it's a variety of Gambling, Mixers, Exchange, etc hence the word Brand covers them all.

With this one can easily identify as a Brand Advertiser, if then questioned further you can take you time to explain your role which most times don't happen.

On my opinion it's best to have other source of income or a skill to be identified with and consider the opportunity bitcoin community (Bitcointalk) offers as a side income or an extra rather than active income.

[CryptoHeadlineNews]

People can say that they do something else because Nigeria government was never friendly to crypto adoption in Nigeria and that has made a lot of people in this forum or outside the forum who are into bitcoin will not want to disclose to the police that they earn through their involvement in bitcoin discussions.

What I tell people if they ask me what I do for a living, I tell them that I am an online promoter. If they ask me which company, I tell them any company that needs my service. I don't even say if AI am involved in bitcoin or not. It's when you are very close to me and you want to know more, I explain at length.

Alright.. Base on the reason you just gave above, it's quite understandable using the word "Online Promoter", knowing fully well the environment we find ourselves here in Nigeria. Which is the exact reason why I created this thread, so that people should be acquainted on the right phrase to use, depending on the situations they find themselves. So it was nice hearing your point of view..

[Tungbulu]

And when you are asked about what you do as regard your sources of income you don’t owe any one anything to start formulating a name, you simply can say that you are a freelancer.

But the word freelancer is still a broader phrase, which is why in this thread I was trying to narrow it down to be more specific.

Narrowing it down could actually turnaround and result in even more controversial scenarios considering the current state of this current. For me, I believe It's easier to tell the cops or the EFCC that you're a freelancer than telling them that you're a BITCOIN Discussed or talker, it's may actually sound new to them because it's not something that's common in our country and so it might eventually sound as if you're a scammer and just trying to use that to cover up.

Again, we all know that most of those men in black ain't that enlightened in matters concerning Bitcoin as most of them, due to their naive natures believe that anything Bitcoin is a crime because that's what most of the yahoo Yahoo boys uses as excuse to cover up their acts, Bitcoin investors, bitcoin traders, and others, so this has given them that mindset that anyone who says he's involved in any Bitcoin related venture is obviously a scammer and sometimes we can't blame them for that, so it's best to tell them you're a freelancer and best not mention Bitcoin to them, cos if you're set free after being detained and questions for mentioning Bitcoin, it still wouldn't be worth it the stress and inconvenience you'll go through. So it's best to avoid mentioning Bitcoin to them.

People can say that they do something else because Nigeria government was never friendly to crypto adoption in Nigeria and that has made a lot of people in this forum or outside the forum who are into bitcoin will not want to disclose to the police that they earn through their involvement in bitcoin discussions.

What I tell people if they ask me what I do for a living, I tell them that I am an online promoter. If they ask me which company, I tell them any company that needs my service. I don't even say if AI am involved in bitcoin or not. It's when you are very close to me and you want to know more, I explain at length.

Alright.. Base on the reason you just gave above, it's quite understandable using the word "Online Promoter", knowing fully well the environment we find ourselves here in Nigeria.

Yeah this sounds a lot more appropriate, or you could also tell them you're a Digital marketer, Online Advertiser, Ad Specialist, Social media advertiser/marketer, and many more you can tell them.

[Lida93]

It sounds lame. I think a better name would be a bitcoin enthusiast. Meaning you are a primary supporter of BTC. It doesn't matter how you support it. it can be through investment, or being a member of a community.

Fact is, the forum can be a place where you can consider as a start up for someone who doesn't have something doing in the main time. But if you manage to grow an account and join signature campaign, won't it be smart to take your money and find something to start up?

How sure are you that there would always be a signature campaign? We saw how mixers were removed last year, so I'll advice anyone who takes the  forum as a source of income to be wiser and take some earned money to start something else. It can be a physical business or online business, but don't depend on the forum and feel relaxed so when an unforeseen situation happens, you won't seem frustrated.

A "bitcoin enthusiast" sounds rational to my thoughts. And it would be taken that invariably through discussing and educating ourselves and others about bitcoin we get some dividends in return for our enthusiasm.

The forum can be an avenue where people may want to use and raise funds to stack some sats and it's not only through signature campaigns as there are other monetary avenues through which members can make money in the forum with the skills they possess, where needed.

I agree. Nothing is guaranteed to stay forever. Not even the signature campaigns.

[Zackz5000]

Telling a Nigeria force personnel that you are a bitcoin discusser  when asked what you do for a living will even worsen the whole thing they will definitely classified you as an internet fraudster that's a Yahoo boy nothing you wan tell Nigeria police not after seeing some App in your mobile gadgets like Binance, Bybit and so on you will definitely pay some huge amount of money before they can set you free even when they know you are saying the truth this is because the whole system is corrupt as they now see every young looking good guy as an internet fraudster just to cash out from the victim.

As a young guy in the country for you to be safe is to hide all the app which might implicate you so you won't be a victim of such circumstances and possibly tell them you are business owner if you are been asked.

Lastly we should also try to have other sources of income and not just depending in the forum to earn a living.

[AVE5]

Recently, a thought have been running in my heads, that as a Bitcointalk member, what could be the perfect phrase or context to describe someone whose major source of income comes from this forum, that is by partaking on signature campaigns? That is he/she to be addressed as a Bitcoin entrepreneur? Or is he to be addressed as a Bitcoin influencer or rather a Bitcoin content creator?

First I'll disagree with the view that one can have this platform as a major source of income in as much users participating in signature campaigns in the platform isn't assured that once you're a member, joining in the signature Campaigns will be a guaranteed. I've participated in some signature campaigns and had also applied in several campaigns and wasn't selected by the manager which I don't think I'm such a weird (shit poster to say).
Some of the participants in the signature campaigns joins the campaigns by favoritism which in our Nigeria term (Man-know-man) or you just rely on luck to be picked because it's usually competitive where number of applicants is far higher than the available opened slot (s) while quality posters are not exempted on the qualification to join the signature campaigns.

So, you can imagine how challenging it may be to be a participant and also the fact that the signature Campaigns in the forum isn't a life time payrolls.
So, how do we think one would insight his/her major source of income on this concept regarded that you'll have daily expenses, have plans for investment and probably retirements because your major source of income is where provides you the highest rate of earning (income) that's said to be reliable for steady inflows of incomes.
We also know the challenges required to build an account here before it can be matured to join payable signature campaigns that's fostered to provide our necessities while Campaigns is on durability.
So, all the while, do we've to abstain from the source that has been sustaining us? Or diverting our focus from your primary income because we've been engaged on bitcointalk?
However, whoever that's lucky to earn as much as in this quest (signature campaigns) that's worth diverting your focus on, be reminded that signature campaigns has an existing timeframe of when the contract is terminated so that we can always have it invested somewhere else just in case because signature campaigns can't be a reliable source of income to behold a "major source of income" because durability matters.

[Fiatless]

The word Brand Advertiser is more broad and covers both paid signatures and shilling, it also includes creative advertisers which has to do with designing and the rest of it, hence I prefer to call one a brand advertiser if your source of income is sole on the forum which shouldn't be though.

Considering this, I also had a rational thought on the different campaigns one participates it's a variety of Gambling, Mixers, Exchange, etc hence the word Brand covers them all.

With this one can easily identify as a Brand Advertiser, if then questioned further you can take you time to explain your role which most times don't happen.

On my opinion it's best to have other source of income or a skill to be identified with and consider the opportunity bitcoin community (Bitcointalk) offers as a side income or an extra rather than active income.

It's good to have another commonly recognized source of income that these law enforcement agencies can easily identify.  You should have an identity card for a business or company you work for. This should be the first proof you would showcase.

If they see anything related to crypto, I fully support @Churchillvv suggestion.  "I am a Brand Advertiser/Promoter and I am paid with cryptocurrencies," sounds nice to me. You can easily tell them the company you are advertising for in Bitcointalk.

However, it will be ideal to avoid these law enforcement agencies because most of them are criminals.  Immediately they hear that you are been paid with Bitcoin,  you are a big-fish.  Therefore removing all forms of information that will connect you to crypto should be avoided.

[Marykeller]

Another right word to use na crypto freelancer. When asked further, you can say, you promote project online and you get paid in Bitcoin or USDT.

We all know how our country be in the hands of military personnel when they hear the word crypto for their ears. No be everybody go fit admit to tell them sae they are into Bitcoin. Some people go fit to tell them another thing they do, to avoid be connered or threatened to release your Bitcoin or USDT to them.

I don hear stories of how people lost their Bitcoin or USDT for the hands of our police officers, all because they saw Bitcoin for their crypto wallet. No be everybody go like experience such a thing, na why em be sae, telling them a different thing is far better so that you go stay at the safe side to avoid unnecessary drama.

Our country get as em be when you d reason Bitcoin matter with our police men. No be all of them get proper knowledge of am without tagging the person to be a yahoo peso. So it's better to apply wisdom when asked wetin you d do by them.

[Dr.Bitcoin_Strange]

Because, the earlier you know the best way to defend yourself if eventually you happens to come across such scenario whereby you encounter Police or EFCC, and eventually got held of your mobile phone and saw apps like Binance, Trust Wallets and Bybit and tagged you as a Yahoo Boy, when eventually you are a legit hustler, the better for you. Hence, if anybody ask you from today henceforth what you do for a living, is best you answer that you are a "Bitcoin Discusser" whereby you earn money by discussing about Bitcoin on its official forum.

Apart from the fact that there are some street scammers scamming people via BTC and crypto transaction whom the police or EFCC would like to pounce on them, Bitcoin is not completely banned in the country, so, if the police will do their job properly, they can not convict someone who is earning in a legit way via Bitcoin, otherwise let them take you to court and prove you are a fraudster.

If the police already sees it as a crime to even find crypto exchanges and wallets on your phone, they problem will not believe what ever you have to tell them but they will like to extort from you, so the best thing to do is to avoid them, avoid such scenario if you can, but if it still happens and you are clean, then let them take you to court instead of you giving them some money that they don't deserve.

You can have two devices, a phone and a laptop or two phones, which you can keep one of the phone at home and that should be where you keep everything that relate to crypto, it could also be on your laptop which you don't usually carry alone in every movement you make.

[Samlucky O]

So in conclusion, I wish to hope that with everything been said above, you all could have understood that there is a big difference between a forex trader, Bitcoin influencer, or Bitcoin content creators, as the true phrase for someone who partakes and engage in discussion on the Bitcointalk forum is meant to be officially called a "Bitcoin discusser" or "Bitcoin Talker".

For me I owe no body any explanation about what I do provided I don't scam anybody online. There are varieties of ways to defend yourselves without necessarily involving Bitcoin in the discussion.

Note that mentioning a Bitcoin related word like Bitcoin discusser or Bitcoin talker in Nigeria is even implicating or offensive to the police or EFCC. It's better to totally avoid them by finding an app freezer or app locker to lock your private app when moving along the road to avoid being intruded by this Bitcoin critics in uniform to embarrass you. because no matter the excuse you give, it will not matter to them since they have nurtured that mindset that anything Bitcoin is scam. If we where from a country that is in full adoption of Bitcoin then any of those suggestion would have been better. If it where to be some country, you could just say you are into Bitcoin trading since it speaks about Bitcoin there will be no problem or you can actually name it anything.,but in Nigeria it's void.

It's better we also invest into other physical businesses that will stand as up front to avoid explanation. The way the country is right now if you even explain everything deep about what you do for a living, you will still be forced to speak how much you earn and if  the pay is above an average man salary you will still need to explain yourself.and it will look more obviously a scam because some legendary or hero member pay in 4 to 6 weeks is above a lecturers payment per semester so you go explain tire.

Sometimes it's best you find a way to cover your main source of income and decieve people by showcasing another as up-front otherwise you put yourself into more problem.

Conclusion
Don't just sit at home and make forum a business because sometimes in the absence of campaign you will understand that you have nothing to offer. So you can start a business as up front while you can use campaign fund as backup funds in your business and avoid unnecessary explanation from this thieves.

[Moreno233]

I doubt there is anyone who will deliberate regard this forum as a full time job unless the person is employed directly by Theymos like the moderators. The few people I know in this forum especially in our local board are professionals in various fields such as medicine, engineering, law and so on, and they are even practicing too. They are in this forum primarily due to their passion in Bitcoin and being in a signature campaign is mainly seen as a privilege to earn passive income. How do you even survive with the money from signature campaign, pay your bills, feed a family, buy a house and so on? If there is anyone thinking that they can live a successful life from the money paid in signature campaign, please it is high time you think again and reorganize your life because being in a signature campaign is a privilege.

[SatoPrincess]

For me I owe no body any explanation about what I do provided I don't scam anybody online.

Don’t be naive. You live in Nigeria and you are answerable to the country’s law even if you find them absurd. Law enforcement agencies have the right to ask you what your job description is and you also have the right to remain silent. But note that you refusing to cooperate may further increase suspicion as to your source of income and extend your stay in jail.

[Samlucky O]

For me I owe no body any explanation about what I do provided I don't scam anybody online.

Don’t be naive. You live in Nigeria and you are answerable to the country’s law even if you find them absurd. Law enforcement agencies have the right to ask you what your job description is and you also have the right to remain silent. But note that you refusing to cooperate may further increase suspicion as to your source of income and extend your stay in jail.

That's why I said it is important to have other sources of income and use campaign fund as a backup fund, why I said this is because we know the country we are and they hate Bitcoin with passion and any conversation about Bitcoin is self implicating. But if you have another physical businesses you do you can use it as a cover up concedaring the country we are. Well I don't know about others but I know how I scale through this people. Everyone has their own opinion and I guess I brought the idea I find pleasant and easy for myself so each an anyone can go with what is best for them. I am not being native I am telling the reality.

[SatoPrincess]

First of all, you’re in trouble if signature campaigns on bitcointalk is your primary source of income. What will happen when signature campaigns are not available? IMO people who depend on signature campaigns often have more than one accounts enrolled in different campaigns in order to make more money. More accounts equal to less quality on both accounts and more spam on the forum.

Secondly, you can’t be telling law enforcement that your job is discussing bitcoin on a online forum. They won’t understand it and may land you in more trouble than you originally were in. It’s only recently that the Nigerian government declared Bitcoin as legal, it would be unwise to start fronting your bitcoin activities to the police or the general public. Please have a business or a 9-5, and tell whoever asks that this is your job/business.