Is Trading also addictive?

[EarnOnVictor]

If yes what are the sign to know that one is becoming a trading addicts?

Yes, trading is addictive, but the only difference is that its addiction is not as rampant/tough as that of gambling and others.

The reason is that a bigger money is involved in trading, unlike gambling, where you can continue to gamble a little or a big amount, or a mix of the two, without control. The money in trading always teaches people that lesson and forces them to quit it more easily.

How do you know you are addicted to trading? Just as with other addictions, you will be unproductively and uncontrollably do it.

Why not when trading and gambling are often link to each other? It also/still depend on the person as some can only experience a slight addiction on either gambling or trading, while the other is the opposite of it.

I don't know how gambling and trading are linked together as you painted it, I just don't know. For me, they are not linked together, but have a certain thing in common, which is risk. I can assure you that good traders know what they are doing and manage their way to success, unlike gambling, which is highly luck-based. It's basically betting.

That aside. This is practical, those people whom I know who are gambling are still gambling, especially those who are core gamblers, despite losing far more than what they gained. But today, only a trader remains among the hundreds of traders I knew. This is the same everywhere. Hasn't that rung a bell that the addiction in gambling is not the same as that in trading?

[slaman29]

I can assure you that good traders know what they are doing and manage their way to success, unlike gambling, which is highly luck-based. It's basically betting.

I can also assure you most of us, myself included are bad traders. The only really good traders I knew in the past were very very few, and they actually trade on behalf of brokers long term. They take requests of orders, they enter at good price and exit at better prices than they were quoted.

Makes a big difference when its not your money. and when youre not degen trying to 10x.

[EarnOnVictor]

I can assure you that good traders know what they are doing and manage their way to success, unlike gambling, which is highly luck-based. It's basically betting.

Makes a big difference when its not your money. and when youre not degen trying to 10x.

In that sense, it's not about not being their money, money is money. I've followed some cases where bank traders were being investigated for recklessness in handling the bank's assets in the financial market. This is not isolated as well, many traders have collected people's money (private/public and big/small) and have blown them off as if they were nothing. So, it's about the kind of trader you are, how prepared you are and how stable your psychology is.

[dunfida]

If yes what are the sign to know that one is becoming a trading addicts?

Yes, trading is addictive, but the only difference is that its addiction is not as rampant/tough as that of gambling and others.

The reason is that a bigger money is involved in trading, unlike gambling, where you can continue to gamble a little or a big amount, or a mix of the two, without control. The money in trading always teaches people that lesson and forces them to quit it more easily.

How do you know you are addicted to trading? Just as with other addictions, you will be unproductively and uncontrollably do it.

Why not when trading and gambling are often link to each other? It also/still depend on the person as some can only experience a slight addiction on either gambling or trading, while the other is the opposite of it.

I don't know how gambling and trading are linked together as you painted it, I just don't know. For me, they are not linked together, but have a certain thing in common, which is risk. I can assure you that good traders know what they are doing and manage their way to success, unlike gambling, which is highly luck-based. It's basically betting.

That aside. This is practical, those people whom I know who are gambling are still gambling, especially those who are core gamblers, despite losing far more than what they gained. But today, only a trader remains among the hundreds of traders I knew. This is the same everywhere. Hasn't that rung a bell that the addiction in gambling is not the same as that in trading?

Actually i can be connected but we do know that trading isnt something that you can be pertaining about taking up some leisure or entertainment. This is different thing and it does depend on how someone will be that able to handle out in between things whether they will be that serious or not. For trading then it could be that partially be addictive at the moment that you are making some profits or making up some good trades. Who doesnt want to earn money? This is the primary motive or action on why we are that doing trading in the first place. Using up your own common sense will be that enough for you to distinguish in regarding or in difference between leisure thing and with some investment/business. It will be just that too impossible that you cant be able to determine on how you would be able to deal off with things accordingly because if we do tend to make out some engagement then it will be that basing up on what things you've been dealing into.

Trading could be that ending up on being a gambling if you arent that applying any analysis into it. Gambling and trading is different thing because leisure time is totally opposite on what we are trying out to deal into. Using up your own awareness and common sense will be able to tell on what are the things that you do need to do in order for you to sustain specially on trading. Gambling is for past time and entertainment on which you shouldnt be putting up too much money allocated for this one because it will be that creating that devastating kind condition or situation at the moment that you do become addicted specially on gambling.

[Teraboy]

I can assure you that good traders know what they are doing and manage their way to success, unlike gambling, which is highly luck-based. It's basically betting.

How you can be sure that trading is different than gambling , trading itself is highly luck based, you can't predict current war that caused market to dump so hard, if you do you would've shorted it.
You can try technical analysis but most of them are self fulfilling prophecy, at most they increase odd from 0.50 to 0.51. In literal sense both are the same speculation on probability.
Except trader just want to be recognized differently .

[Butterfan]

For over a year plus I have been an active trader's mostly I trade on derivative market, oh yeah the most risky form of trading, since you can blow off your balance to liquidation if the market goes against your position, but that is not why we are here with this topic, but let dive into it straight away.

Future derivative trading is liken to gambling since both activities have similar outcomes and results which is either you gain it all your you lose everything, but with proper management one can still make something out of this risky trading pattern but once you hit the jackpot, it becomes almost a go to point whenever you want to trade.

So the question is, can one becomes addicted to trading same way gambling can be addictive?

If yes what are the sign to know that one is becoming a trading addicts?

Yes I genuinely feel one can get addicted to trading much like gambling. The exhilaration from placing trades and viewing swift gains or losses stimulates the same emotional responses. Especially in futures trading where things move fast and the stakes are enormous it becomes easy to chase that feeling again and again.

 Some indicators I’ve observed in people who might be getting addicted are continually checking charts even during sleep hours trading emotionally instead of following a plan disregarding losses and trying to recoup instantly and feeling worried or restless while not trading. If trading starts influencing your attitude or personal life that’s a major red flag. It’s vital to stand back sometimes and treat it as a job not a delight.

[Synchronice]

For over a year plus I have been an active trader's mostly I trade on derivative market, oh yeah the most risky form of trading, since you can blow off your balance to liquidation if the market goes against your position, but that is not why we are here with this topic, but let dive into it straight away.

Future derivative trading is liken to gambling since both activities have similar outcomes and results which is either you gain it all your you lose everything, but with proper management one can still make something out of this risky trading pattern but once you hit the jackpot, it becomes almost a go to point whenever you want to trade.

So the question is, can one becomes addicted to trading same way gambling can be addictive?

If yes what are the sign to know that one is becoming a trading addicts?

While trading is different from gambling, they both share the same psychological pattern that causes addiction. What do people do when they lose during gambling? They double the bet to win back what they lost and also make a profit. What do people do when they experience loss during trading? They make risky investment to mitigate the loss, to recover and gain some profit on top of that.
In the end, both of these actions are the same thing, in both cases people try to profit, then fail and then try to recover from that failure but since both of them are risky activity, both of them cause addiction. You depend on your luck in both cases, so they share a similar nature.

[Uruhara]

I can assure you that good traders know what they are doing and manage their way to success, unlike gambling, which is highly luck-based. It's basically betting.

How you can be sure that trading is different than gambling , trading itself is highly luck based, you can't predict current war that caused market to dump so hard, if you do you would've shorted it.
You can try technical analysis but most of them are self fulfilling prophecy, at most they increase odd from 0.50 to 0.51. In literal sense both are the same speculation on probability.
Except trader just want to be recognized differently .

we cannot equate a boxer in the ring with the audience outside the ring.
A boxer in the ring is like a trader. He doesn't know whether he can win or not when he faces an opponent in the ring.

And gamblers are like spectators who also don't know whether their favorite boxer will win or not. But spectators usually place bets on their favorite boxers while hoping that their favorite boxers can win.

Meanwhile, a boxer who will compete in the ring arena will make preparations and try to win by training hard before the time to compete and when he is in the ring he will try to analyze the opponent, provoke the opponent's emotions and do anything to knock down the opponent.

the audience also analyzed from outside the ring. Meanwhile, boxers analyze their opponents while fighting.

Does it look the same? Between the audience and the boxer. 

A basic analogy like this should be able to differentiate between traders and gamblers. But I think you understand much more than I do. So hopefully it's easy to understand for others who still don't understand.

[EarnOnVictor]

I can assure you that good traders know what they are doing and manage their way to success, unlike gambling, which is highly luck-based. It's basically betting.

How you can be sure that trading is different than gambling , trading itself is highly luck based, you can't predict current war that caused market to dump so hard, if you do you would've shorted it.
You can try technical analysis but most of them are self fulfilling prophecy, at most they increase odd from 0.50 to 0.51. In literal sense both are the same speculation on probability.

The problem with many of you is that you don't know how to trade, so what do you expect? And this mindset of trading as gambling is what fails you, so I am not surprised. The narrative will never change if you don't change and take trading for what it is.

Trading is speculative to the point that some traders have over 85% winning accuracy, and it is managerial and plannable. Can you say the same of gambling? Gambling increases your uncertainty the more you try to learn it, but trading increases your certainty the more you learn it. The only similarity is the risk and the uncertain outcome. Notwithstanding, trading still makes it more certain with more expertise, unlike gambling. So, the choice is yours.

Even AI will tell you they are not the same.

[justdimin]

I can also assure you most of us, myself included are bad traders. The only really good traders I knew in the past were very very few, and they actually trade on behalf of brokers long term. They take requests of orders, they enter at good price and exit at better prices than they were quoted.

Makes a big difference when its not your money. and when youre not degen trying to 10x.

Yeah, most of us here are not even close to pro traders. I think we are soft gamblers who are trading to earn money and in some ways even addicted to trading all the time. The real pro traders are the opposite of this. They would not want to trade and work on this like a job. Similar to how a professional sportsman may not like playing the sport anymore but he is great at it, while college football players have a lot of passion but lack the skills.

I don't think I am addicted to trading but definitely I make way too many trades and decisions based on emotions rather than market analysis and charts understanding. But there is no doubt that trading is addictive just like gambling and the worst part is you don't realize that because trading is not seen as a bad thing which gambling always is.

[Baki202]

I can assure you that good traders know what they are doing and manage their way to success, unlike gambling, which is highly luck-based. It's basically betting.

How you can be sure that trading is different than gambling , trading itself is highly luck based, you can't predict current war that caused market to dump so hard, if you do you would've shorted it.
You can try technical analysis but most of them are self fulfilling prophecy, at most they increase odd from 0.50 to 0.51. In literal sense both are the same speculation on probability.
Except trader just want to be recognized differently .

They are similar but I don't think there is any significant difference just that even with luck you will still need to do some analysis just to be sure of what you are doing exactly and there are different reasons why trading is more advance than gambling and people always have the mindset of coming and the next thing they are making money and before you start making money from gambling you have to do a lot of study. And also be consistent because without consistency you will eventually give up because there are traders that just because they have failed they think there is nothing there for them but gambling is actually more than that.
There people that are making money from it so what makes it different the only thing is that follow the process and when you do so I don't think there will be any challenge.

[Moreno233]

Trading is one of the most addictive thing I have seen. It is something that can transform financial status of an individual within a short period of time, this is why traders are so obsessed with their art and will willing to take risk that is that is worth it. Trading is even more addictive than gambling, those who trade can attest to that fact and only those who have not made money from trading that will have a different opinion.

[Guccho]

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If yes what are the sign to know that one is becoming a trading addicts?

Yes I believe trading may become addicting just like gambling especially in the derivatives market where the highs and lows are strong, When you start trading not only based on strategy but for the excitement or emotional rush that’s a red flag. Some indicators include frequently monitoring charts even when there’s no setup, overtrading without a clear goal risking more than you should just to feel something, or feeling concerned when you’re not in a trade. If trading ceases being a reasoned decision and starts being emotional or compulsive then it’s time to pause and re evaluate.

[Su-asa]

Trading is one of the most addictive thing I have seen. It is something that can transform financial status of an individual within a short period of time, this is why traders are so obsessed with their art and will willing to take risk that is that is worth it. Trading is even more addictive than gambling, those who trade can attest to that fact and only those who have not made money from trading that will have a different opinion.

At first I want to disagree with you but after I have given it a second thought I think think you might probably be right because like you have said above that only those that haven't been making profits through trading will be the ones to to view differently. Well, to me honest I haven't make any profit from trading. But it's kinda obvious that if your strategy is better and also give you profits all the time you will be addicted and won't want to stop because you are being successful in your trade all the time.

[harapan]

So the question is, can one becomes addicted to trading same way gambling can be addictive?

If yes what are the sign to know that one is becoming a trading addicts?

Yes trading is so addictive just like gambling this is why traders risks so much to get to the threashold of their success but just like gambling you can easily detect the signs of addiction bit for trading it's somewhat hard to do so but I think one sign of trading addiction is obsessions,and this occur when the trader is being stucked to his trades notwithstanding the losses encountered.

[Polkeins]

Trading is one of the most addictive thing I have seen. It is something that can transform financial status of an individual within a short period of time, this is why traders are so obsessed with their art and will willing to take risk that is that is worth it. Trading is even more addictive than gambling, those who trade can attest to that fact and only those who have not made money from trading that will have a different opinion.

It's hard to disagree with you about trading, that it is one of the most interesting phenomena in our life, but I disagree that trading and gambling are different things.
The only difference is that in gambling the result comes immediately, after a bet within a couple of hours or days and it is immediately clear whether you have won or lost.
Trading has a beginning but no end and only the trader himself determines when to close a position. In the case of crypto and altcoin trading, losses can be 99%, but all this can take years and moral suffering from this can be much worse than in gambling, where the loss comes immediately.

[kyman1]

Yeah i think it's the same thing Trading only is different because you can catch an edge by analyzing that you can't get at gambling. But same addicting functions "1 click away from 1 million".

[Egii Nna]

I don't know how gambling and trading are linked together as you painted it, I just don't know. For me, they are not linked together, but have a certain thing in common, which is risk. I can assure you that good traders know what they are doing and manage their way to success, unlike gambling, which is highly luck-based. It's basically betting.

That aside. This is practical, those people whom I know who are gambling are still gambling, especially those who are core gamblers, despite losing far more than what they gained. But today, only a trader remains among the hundreds of traders I knew. This is the same everywhere. Hasn't that rung a bell that the addiction in gambling is not the same as that in trading?

You’re right to say that trading, especially well managed trading, is base on skills, while gambling is fully base on probability, which made it hard for individual to control their selves while gambling. Here is how you can differentiate them:

For Trading when involved properly:
1) Research and analysis (technical, fundamental, sentiment)
2) Strategy, discipline, and risk management (stop-losses, portfolio diversification)
3)Long-term growth perspectives (especially in long time investing)

For Gambling:
1) It involves pure chance or heavily stacked odds ( slot machines)
2) Has a negative expected value over time
3) Offers little room for informed decision making (unless in sports betting)

So trading can be skillful and repeatable, while gambling is mostly addictive and you can let go.

Furthermore, the only link that people draw between trading and gambling always comes from how some individuals approach trading like gambling, not from what the activities truly are. Like people that go into trading without basic knowledge this are people that always engage themselves in Over leveraging trades (like, 100x margin), Chasing losses or revenge trading, Trading with no strategy or risk management, Making impulsive decisions driven by emotions or hype

So, when people say “trading is gambling,” they are just referring to the bad traders not the disciplined, strategic traders.

[Metalbest]

I think trading can definitely become addicting exactly like gambling especially with derivatives where the highs and lows are powerful and fast. One apparent symptom is when you start trading out of impulse rather than strategy like feeling the want to create a position even when there’s no clear setup and another is when your mood is dictated by your trades win and you’re pleased loss and you’re furious or depressed also if you continually raising your risk or try to chase losses that’s a red flag. When trading stops being planned and becomes emotional it starts to look more like gambling than investment

[slaman29]

I can also assure you most of us, myself included are bad traders. The only really good traders I knew in the past were very very few, and they actually trade on behalf of brokers long term. They take requests of orders, they enter at good price and exit at better prices than they were quoted.

Makes a big difference when its not your money. and when youre not degen trying to 10x.

Yeah, most of us here are not even close to pro traders. I think we are soft gamblers who are trading to earn money and in some ways even addicted to trading all the time. The real pro traders are the opposite of this. They would not want to trade and work on this like a job. Similar to how a professional sportsman may not like playing the sport anymore but he is great at it, while college football players have a lot of passion but lack the skills.

I don't think I am addicted to trading but definitely I make way too many trades and decisions based on emotions rather than market analysis and charts understanding. But there is no doubt that trading is addictive just like gambling and the worst part is you don't realize that because trading is not seen as a bad thing which gambling always is.

Thats 100% how I started and how I saw myself, looking to earn a bit of side income. But realizing I spent way, way, way too much time trying to earn a few bucks, get so stressed and lacking sleep and healthy food and exercise that I understood I had become just a gambler, 10x worse than in a casino.

The real pros, like you said, the ones I knew didn't live like this. They actually do have a normal job, usually with a broker or at least a sort of contract where they make orders and make analysis, and actually do NOT themselves use their capital in short term.

I'm still in this forum trying to spread the wisdom as an ex trader who learn my lessons. I see a lot of people posting, reminds me of me. If I can make one person see and save himself, I did my job