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June 18, 2025, 08:51:15 AM
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How in the world do you think Cristiano Ronaldo would win the Ballon d'Or with his present performance and the league he is playing in. Raphinha and Yamal are in better form than the Portuguese skipper.

He has more goals, has won more titles and is the best in history, Yamal does not, he lost the Nations League, he did not even reach the final of the UCL, in that sense if we are objective the one who can win everything including the Ballon d'Or is Vitnha, Raphinha does not because he did not win the UCL either.

You really have a good point here, football right now is all about numbers, how many trophy do you win, how many goals and assist were you able to register in your name and how impactful were you to achieving all this.
I have said this before and am still going to say it again, if Lamine yamal is given the ballon d'Or with this his very poor numbers register to his name, Cristiano Ronaldo will be proving right that the ballon d'or award have lost it credibility.
Even in that Barcelona team, raphinha has a better goal and assist more than this Lamine yamal that most people are clamouring about, so giving him this award will make no sense in my own opinion, when their are players that did well and even have numbers and trophies more than him this season.

 
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June 19, 2025, 09:41:12 AM
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top 5 of the Ballon d'Or Power Rankings are Dembele, Yamal, Raphinha, Salah & Vitinha. Despite being the top scorer in La Liga, Mbappe is not on this list, because Madrid has not won a single title. Also players like Haaland & Harry Kane are far behind

Let's see who is more deserving among these 5 player....

Yamal & Raphinha have had a pretty good season.
They have won the La Liga title, they have also played very well in the Champions League.
But they have not been able to score many goals, these two players are far behind Dembele in terms of goal score.

MOhammad Salah has scored 29 goals and 18 assists in 38 matches. He has scored 3 goals and 4 assists in the Champions League. However Liverpool has only won the Premier League title

Dembele has scored 21 goals and 6 assists in 29 matches in Ligue 1 this season. Scored 8 goals and 6 assists in 15 Champions League matches. Scored 3 goals in 4 French Cup matches & PSG won three titles. Dembele performed excellently on all three platforms

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June 19, 2025, 10:00:17 AM
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top 5 of the Ballon d'Or Power Rankings are Dembele, Yamal, Raphinha, Salah & Vitinha. Despite being the top scorer in La Liga, Mbappe is not on this list, because Madrid has not won a single title. Also players like Haaland & Harry Kane are far behind

Let's see who is more deserving among these 5 player....

Yamal & Raphinha have had a pretty good season.
They have won the La Liga title, they have also played very well in the Champions League.
But they have not been able to score many goals, these two players are far behind Dembele in terms of goal score.

MOhammad Salah has scored 29 goals and 18 assists in 38 matches. He has scored 3 goals and 4 assists in the Champions League. However Liverpool has only won the Premier League title

Dembele has scored 21 goals and 6 assists in 29 matches in Ligue 1 this season. Scored 8 goals and 6 assists in 15 Champions League matches. Scored 3 goals in 4 French Cup matches & PSG won three titles. Dembele performed excellently on all three platforms
There no sugar talk here, i think Dembele should be giving the award he deserves it more than anyone else. there is no player on that list that did more than him  this season, he won all in his league and did well in the champions league.

mohammed salah, and mbappe should come second, they scored a high number of goals too, there is not much competition on this award so the organiser should not play game on Dembele as they did to vini, jr last year.

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June 25, 2025, 02:19:40 AM
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You really have a good point here, football right now is all about numbers, how many trophy do you win, how many goals and assist were you able to register in your name and how impactful were you to achieving all this.
I have said this before and am still going to say it again, if Lamine yamal is given the ballon d'Or with this his very poor numbers register to his name, Cristiano Ronaldo will be proving right that the ballon d'or award have lost it credibility.
Even in that Barcelona team, raphinha has a better goal and assist more than this Lamine yamal that most people are clamouring about, so giving him this award will make no sense in my own opinion, when their are players that did well and even have numbers and trophies more than him this season.

Yes, to be objective they could give it to Vitinha, he is the one who has shown the most beautiful football, he has goals, he is champion of the UCL and the Nations League, but to be honest I don't know what criteria they use now to choose a Ballon d'Or, but being honest I would give it to CR7 for all his example and career or else to Vitinha, I think that if they do it like that then it could be said that the organizers of the Ballon d'Or would be "pulling their feet out of the mud" and people could believe in this event again.

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June 25, 2025, 05:05:14 AM
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Yes, to be objective they could give it to Vitinha, he is the one who has shown the most beautiful football, he has goals, he is champion of the UCL and the Nations League, but to be honest I don't know what criteria they use now to choose a Ballon d'Or, but being honest I would give it to CR7 for all his example and career or else to Vitinha, I think that if they do it like that then it could be said that the organizers of the Ballon d'Or would be "pulling their feet out of the mud" and people could believe in this event again.
The Nations League is giving Vitinha a slight advantage, but my best bet is Ousmane Dembele. The French team didn't do well in the competition, but it shouldn't be a strong  reason for Dembele not to win the award.  Ronaldo is in the first twenty power ranking, but his chances are slim, even if he led Portugal to win the Nations League. We will all leave it to the voters to determine who deserves it because this year's awards look highly competitive.

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June 26, 2025, 09:33:51 AM
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The Nations League is giving Vitinha a slight advantage, but my best bet is Ousmane Dembele. The French team didn't do well in the competition, but it shouldn't be a strong  reason for Dembele not to win the award.  Ronaldo is in the first twenty power ranking, but his chances are slim, even if he led Portugal to win the Nations League. We will all leave it to the voters to determine who deserves it because this year's awards look highly competitive.

If a player like Rodri for Manchester City deserves it last season, then a midfielder who has done more likewise achieved  more than Rodri also deserves it. Vitinha has been superb for both club and country. But then, Ousman Dembele will be voted in my opinion. The Ballon d'Or is purely back by PR because why will Barcelona fans project Lamine Yamal for the Ballon d'Or when Raphinha had numbers than him. Oliseh of Bayern Munich also had a better season than Lamine Yamal.

Cristiano Ronaldo will always say, numbers is everything, same goes to statistics is always correct and if you check,  Raphinha also merits this above Lamine Yamal.


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June 26, 2025, 11:19:56 AM
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The Nations League is giving Vitinha a slight advantage, but my best bet is Ousmane Dembele. The French team didn't do well in the competition, but it shouldn't be a strong  reason for Dembele not to win the award.  Ronaldo is in the first twenty power ranking, but his chances are slim, even if he led Portugal to win the Nations League. We will all leave it to the voters to determine who deserves it because this year's awards look highly competitive.

If a player like Rodri for Manchester City deserves it last season, then a midfielder who has done more likewise achieved  more than Rodri also deserves it. Vitinha has been superb for both club and country. But then, Ousman Dembele will be voted in my opinion. The Ballon d'Or is purely back by PR because why will Barcelona fans project Lamine Yamal for the Ballon d'Or when Raphinha had numbers than him. Oliseh of Bayern Munich also had a better season than Lamine Yamal.

Cristiano Ronaldo will always say, numbers is everything, same goes to statistics is always correct and if you check,  Raphinha also merits this above Lamine Yamal.



Very well said.

Personally I don't think Rodri deserved the ballon d'or last year but his performance from EURO couldn't be ignored so I guess in a way deserve it but if we take his performance only from Man City then he didn't deserve it.

Vitinha has been majestic for PSG this season and he is my Ballon D'or no matter what. Sure , most of the vots will go to Dembele most likely but I won't be surprised to see Vitinha actually winning it.  Cool
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Do you agree what C. Ronaldo said?
the idea is not bad, but you can't always decide the winner based on that. to say that the ballond'or only goes to the player who won the champions league would make it no longer a prize for individual performance. that is the important point. if what ballond'or determines is who played the best that season, of course it matters who did what in which tournament, but the champions league cannot be the only criterion.

i could go on and on, but what i'm trying to say is that the performance of the players is the most important thing, and you can see the performance by looking at the difficulty of the tournament, the league, the quality and the impact of the player.

it's not a case of “this” or “that”. there are different tournaments every season and there is not always a undoubtable way to determine the overall situation.

 
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We have seen some times that the Ballon d'Or winner is not a player from the Champions League winner. Do you agree what C. Ronaldo said?

I believe in what Cristiano Ronaldo said about the Balon d’Or winner, unless they’re not being just and biased that’s when we can say that they will use other criteria to select the Balon d’Or winner. This was also was caused the lay Balon d’Or winner selection to be talked about and termed unjust the last time when it was given to Rodri.

I know that other trophies are to be considered because all the leagues in Europe are top leagues without underrating any of them when compared to what we see outside of Europe. Champions league should be used and other leagues and going by that, Ousmane Dembele is the right player to win it this season. Let’s watch out and see.











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June 26, 2025, 02:43:13 PM
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This is what Cristiano Ronaldo said recently.

You can read about it from https://www.flashscore.com/news/soccer-champions-league-ronaldo-weighs-into-ballon-d-or-debate-it-should-go-to-champions-league-winner/niqxCKTp/

We have seen some times that the Ballon d'Or winner is not a player from the Champions League winner. Do you agree what C. Ronaldo said?
I did not need to go into details to read, hear and interpret what Christiano Ronaldo said in order to agree with what he said and also because this has long been a topic of confusion for me, because I see players who are supposed to win the Ballon d' Or after proving beyond reasonable doubt of their talents and input till the final when their team won all thanks to their brilliance and team play, actually have this much coveted award given to someone else who had less presence till the final and neither did as much to deserve it. Like a case of sometime back when everyone thought Vini Jnr was going to win the award but it was rather given to someone else and on other occasions too.
So I definitely agree that only players who make it to the final should be allowed to participate in the award nominations except for players who played exceptionally and remained consistent for more than 3 seasons even though they didn't get to the final,can be nominated too for the Ballon d' Or awards.

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June 26, 2025, 03:21:37 PM
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Recently, the Ballon d'Or has been the subject of controversy, and it is not clear what the Ballon d'Or is based on. Some players have performed well in the Champions League, domestic leagues and all kinds of club tournaments but have not won the Ballon d'Or, while another footballer has not performed well and has won the Ballon d'Or. Only those who nominate and select the Ballon d'Or can say for sure what they actually base their decisions on. If there was not so much controversy about the Ballon d'Or before, there is now a lot of controversy surrounding this Ballon d'Or.
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This is what Cristiano Ronaldo said recently.

You can read about it from https://www.flashscore.com/news/soccer-champions-league-ronaldo-weighs-into-ballon-d-or-debate-it-should-go-to-champions-league-winner/niqxCKTp/

We have seen some times that the Ballon d'Or winner is not a player from the Champions League winner. Do you agree what C. Ronaldo said?
Ronaldo is not in a position to decide what criteria that the FIFA should use for deciding the Ballon DO'r winner, rather the FIFA body,  There shouldn't be a need for this if a player from the champions league winner meets their criteria to winning the Ballon d’Or, I doubt if FIFA won't consider the player the deserved honor. Champions league is a superior competition no doubt the players performance their and wining the title shouldn't be the only criteria to judge who will be the Ballon d'Or winner.

 
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June 26, 2025, 06:01:50 PM
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top 5 of the Ballon d'Or Power Rankings are Dembele, Yamal, Raphinha, Salah & Vitinha. Despite being the top scorer in La Liga, Mbappe is not on this list, because Madrid has not won a single title. Also players like Haaland & Harry Kane are far behind

Let's see who is more deserving among these 5 player....

Yamal & Raphinha have had a pretty good season.
They have won the La Liga title, they have also played very well in the Champions League.
But they have not been able to score many goals, these two players are far behind Dembele in terms of goal score.
The balon d'Or title is likely going to Osman dembele regardless of the fact that lamine yamal and even raphinah equally has a fantastic season. We can arguably say that it will be very fair to give him not just because he won the champions league but because he's hard a fair contribution in everything that psg won for the season.  The balon d'Or is a world best player award and not the champions league best player award. Even though the consideration is mostly about the champions league and the world cup because of the way they are being ranked, if a player only performs well in the champions league and falls to show up effectively in other leagues and even put up a general good attitude that's worthy of a good sportsman, it's going to eventually have a serious effect on the likely of the player winning it. In all of those consideration, dembele ticks most of the boxes effortlessly.


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The Nations League is giving Vitinha a slight advantage, but my best bet is Ousmane Dembele. The French team didn't do well in the competition, but it shouldn't be a strong  reason for Dembele not to win the award.  Ronaldo is in the first twenty power ranking, but his chances are slim, even if he led Portugal to win the Nations League. We will all leave it to the voters to determine who deserves it because this year's awards look highly competitive.
Dembele also deserves it, of course, but now it has become so difficult to see what the criteria are for a Ballon d'Or that they repeatedly tell us that Lamine Yamal or Pedri from Barcelona will win this, just as they did with Rodri from City, a total farce and mockery in my opinion.}

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Dembele also deserves it, of course, but now it has become so difficult to see what the criteria are for a Ballon d'Or that they repeatedly tell us that Lamine Yamal or Pedri from Barcelona will win this, just as they did with Rodri from City, a total farce and mockery in my opinion.}

It's eight more days go go anyways guys. My best bet for this remains Ousman Dembele winning. He ticks all the box we just have to wait now as it's already around the corner now. Dembele,  Vitinha, Yamal, Hakimi, Salah, and Raphinha are my first six picks. They have all done well last season to deserve it. After this, PSG will go on ahead to face Tottenham Hotspur for the super cup competition on the 13th of August.


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It's eight more days go go anyways guys. My best bet for this remains Ousman Dembele winning. He ticks all the box we just have to wait now as it's already around the corner now. Dembele,  Vitinha, Yamal, Hakimi, Salah, and Raphinha are my first six picks. They have all done well last season to deserve it. After this, PSG will go on ahead to face Tottenham Hotspur for the super cup competition on the 13th of August.


Who candidate at the top ten for Ballon D'Or winner? I don't see yet the candidate list although have several top players exactly from PSG dominance by Dembele, Vitinha and Hakimi. From Barcelona I think Lamine Yamal and Raphinha will include in the candidate list. I don't think fair if the winner Ballon D'Or player from the team not winning Champion League such as many people predicting Yamal the favorite winner, better for Dembele indeed PSG failed at FIFA World Cup but qualifying to final round still the best achievement.
Waiting for eight day left and want to see the top ten candidate winner list for Ballon D'Or have any controversial for this year?
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Ronaldo is not in a position to decide what criteria that the FIFA should use for deciding the Ballon DO'r winner, rather the FIFA body,  There shouldn't be a need for this if a player from the champions league winner meets their criteria to winning the Ballon d’Or, I doubt if FIFA won't consider the player the deserved honor. Champions league is a superior competition no doubt the players performance their and wining the title shouldn't be the only criteria to judge who will be the Ballon d'Or winner.
But he is in the position, he has won Ballon d'Ors and he knows the corruption that exists there, everyone knows that Rodri didn't deserve the Ballon d'Or yet he won it, so what do you think that is? Corruption? Yes... then sometimes the criteria they take is just convenience or bias and if this year they come out again with the award for a player who doesn't deserve it, then this competition will not have the credibility it had before.

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August 03, 2025, 11:04:50 PM
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There no sugar talk here, i think Dembele should be giving the award he deserves it more than anyone else. there is no player on that list that did more than him  this season, he won all in his league and did well in the champions league.

mohammed salah, and mbappe should come second, they scored a high number of goals too, there is not much competition on this award so the organiser should not play game on Dembele as they did to vini, jr last year.

You mentioned Mohamed Salah and Mbappé should be top contenders for the Ballon D'or, I don't think they deserve a top 5 spot for Ballon D'or. What about Lamine Yamal, Raphinha, Vitinha and Pedri? All these players are strong contenders based on the criteria for the Ballon D'or.  I'm a fan of Lamine Yamal, but I believe Ousmane Dembélé has done much better than him and deserves to be awarded the Ballon d'Or. And anything can still happen because the Ballon d'Or is always determined by a voting process, and we might be surprised, just as we were with Vinicius Junior last season. The Ballon d'Or awards are unpredictable with their decisions.

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August 03, 2025, 11:52:48 PM
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There no sugar talk here, i think Dembele should be giving the award he deserves it more than anyone else. there is no player on that list that did more than him  this season, he won all in his league and did well in the champions league.

mohammed salah, and mbappe should come second, they scored a high number of goals too, there is not much competition on this award so the organiser should not play game on Dembele as they did to vini, jr last year.

You mentioned Mohamed Salah and Mbappé should be top contenders for the Ballon D'or, I don't think they deserve a top 5 spot for Ballon D'or. What about Lamine Yamal, Raphinha, Vitinha and Pedri? All these players are strong contenders based on the criteria for the Ballon D'or.  I'm a fan of Lamine Yamal, but I believe Ousmane Dembélé has done much better than him and deserves to be awarded the Ballon d'Or. And anything can still happen because the Ballon d'Or is always determined by a voting process, and we might be surprised, just as we were with Vinicius Junior last season. The Ballon d'Or awards are unpredictable with their decisions.
I'm rooting for Dembele to win the Ballon d'Or, and I don't mean to belittle players like Salah, Mbappe, Vinicius Junior, Yamal, and others. Dembele is having his best season yet and was a key part of the PSG squad that won the treble last season. I think Dembele has fulfilled all the requirements to win the Ballon d'Or, and hopefully there won't be any drama like in previous elections.
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August 04, 2025, 05:12:53 PM
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There no sugar talk here, i think Dembele should be giving the award he deserves it more than anyone else. there is no player on that list that did more than him  this season, he won all in his league and did well in the champions league.

mohammed salah, and mbappe should come second, they scored a high number of goals too, there is not much competition on this award so the organiser should not play game on Dembele as they did to vini, jr last year.

You mentioned Mohamed Salah and Mbappé should be top contenders for the Ballon D'or, I don't think they deserve a top 5 spot for Ballon D'or. What about Lamine Yamal, Raphinha, Vitinha and Pedri? All these players are strong contenders based on the criteria for the Ballon D'or.  I'm a fan of Lamine Yamal, but I believe Ousmane Dembélé has done much better than him and deserves to be awarded the Ballon d'Or. And anything can still happen because the Ballon d'Or is always determined by a voting process, and we might be surprised, just as we were with Vinicius Junior last season. The Ballon d'Or awards are unpredictable with their decisions.
I'm rooting for Dembele to win the Ballon d'Or, and I don't mean to belittle players like Salah, Mbappe, Vinicius Junior, Yamal, and others. Dembele is having his best season yet and was a key part of the PSG squad that won the treble last season. I think Dembele has fulfilled all the requirements to win the Ballon d'Or, and hopefully there won't be any drama like in previous elections.

If Ousmane Dembélé wins the Club World Cup, I will agree he's the clear favorite to win the Ballon d'Or, but Lamine Yamal also fulfilled all the requirements to win the Ballon D'Or, because all Barcelona recent successes, including winning La Liga and the Copa del Rey, have boosted Lamine Yamal profile to be a strong contender for the Ballon D'Or. and Let's get one thing straight, in football, winning the Ballon d'Or isn't always determined by having more goals and trophies. If that's the case, Vinicius and Haaland should be the top contenders for the 2024 and 2023 Ballon d'Or, not Rodri and Lionel Messi, but there were other factors that contributed to their wins, which I found convincing. So if Lamine Yamal or another contender wins the Ballon d'Or, I'll agree they deserve it.

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