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August 04, 2025, 05:21:44 PM
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If Ousmane Dembélé wins the Club World Cup, I will agree he's the clear favorite to win the Ballon d'Or, but Lamine Yamal also fulfilled all the requirements to win the Ballon D'Or, because all Barcelona recent successes, including winning La Liga and the Copa del Rey, have boosted Lamine Yamal profile to be a strong contender for the Ballon D'Or. and Let's get one thing straight, in football, winning the Ballon d'Or isn't always determined by having more goals and trophies. If that's the case, Vinicius and Haaland should be the top contenders for the 2024 and 2023 Ballon d'Or, not Rodri and Lionel Messi, but there were other factors that contributed to their wins, which I found convincing. So if Lamine Yamal or another contender wins the Ballon d'Or, I'll agree they deserve it.

From what I have seen and calculated, I don't think it's even about winning much or all the trophy although to that part is very important as it will boost you as a contender to be the top 3 or top 2 contestants for the award and the rest is left on the hands of coaches and important personnel like journalist and football analyst in the world of fifa and uefa to vote and cast their votes for the top candidate and that's why vini didn't win last time so let's see how it plays this time around but am certain dembele will win it.

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August 04, 2025, 05:39:02 PM
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This is what Cristiano Ronaldo said recently.
Ballon d'Or debate I thought it would not end, Cristiano Ronaldo he expressed his fierce based on what he saw, That is if the election in the world of football has involved political elements and subjectivity, that's the result, which should not be elected, the opposite.

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Ronaldo considers Vinicius to be more appropriate to win Ballon d'Or for bringing Real Madrid to the Champions League champions, although the award was finally given to Rodri.

If injustice occurs in the world of football and becomes a political event, the debate of Ballon d'Or does not find the end point continues and always becomes a controversy.

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August 04, 2025, 05:45:40 PM
 #83

This is what Cristiano Ronaldo said recently.
Ballon d'Or debate I thought it would not end, Cristiano Ronaldo he expressed his fierce based on what he saw, That is if the election in the world of football has involved political elements and subjectivity, that's the result, which should not be elected, the opposite.
Like Ronaldo's debate elsewhere:
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Ronaldo considers Vinicius to be more appropriate to win Ballon d'Or for bringing Real Madrid to the Champions League champions, although the award was finally given to Rodri.

If injustice occurs in the world of football and becomes a political event, the debate of Ballon d'Or does not find the end point continues and always becomes a controversy.

The judges have their criteria so they have the option on who to choose for this award. But for me, this Ballon d'Or should not be the defining moment for a football athlete. Yes, it determines who is at the top of the game for this current season based on what they have achieved, but it should be more than their goals or scores inside the field. In my opinion, it should be the overall quality of the athlete including their behavior in and outside of the field, their influence in the sports and how they use it to change the lives of his audience. It is like the overall package as a football athlete.

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August 04, 2025, 07:39:13 PM
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Even though that I don't agree that the basis upon which the balloon Dior should only be given to the winner of the champions League because other players maybe good but may not be lucky when it comes to the champions and may le knockout of the champions League but there individual performance and that from their local league should be considered.


But how ever it's obvious that the team that won the balloon Dior has a lot of quality players that were fantastic and I think that they deserve the coveted price specifically Hakimi and Dembele

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August 04, 2025, 07:57:44 PM
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Even though that I don't agree that the basis upon which the balloon Dior should only be given to the winner of the champions League because other players maybe good but may not be lucky when it comes to the champions and may le knockout of the champions League but there individual performance and that from their local league should be considered.


But how ever it's obvious that the team that won the balloon Dior has a lot of quality players that were fantastic and I think that they deserve the coveted price specifically Hakimi and Dembele
Funny how the team that reached the final has no player in the conversation. Now if we should use Ronaldo's suggestion then what would have happened if Inter Milan had won the UEFA champions league? Would Martinez have become the favorite to win the UEFA champions league. we can't just manufacture a Ballon d'Or contender from inter Milan if they have won the UEFA champions league. Using the winners of the UEFA champions league as the reason to give someone the Ballon d'Or is something that can easily backfire and cause controversy.

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August 04, 2025, 07:57:53 PM
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Even though that I don't agree that the basis upon which the balloon Dior should only be given to the winner of the champions League because other players maybe good but may not be lucky when it comes to the champions and may le knockout of the champions League but there individual performance and that from their local league should be considered.


But how ever it's obvious that the team that won the balloon Dior has a lot of quality players that were fantastic and I think that they deserve the coveted price specifically Hakimi and Dembele
Any attempt to alter the system already will be a biased one, if they should consider the Ballon d'Or winner to come from a champions winner club, then we will not always get to vote the right and deserving best player. Individual performance should play an important role in choosing whom to give this very award, but in a situation we have qualified players that won the Champions then consideration can be made to choose a player from champions league winner club.

 
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August 04, 2025, 08:05:45 PM
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From what I have seen and calculated, I don't think it's even about winning much or all the trophy although to that part is very important as it will boost you as a contender to be the top 3 or top 2 contestants for the award and the rest is left on the hands of coaches and important personnel like journalist and football analyst in the world of fifa and uefa to vote and cast their votes for the top candidate and that's why vini didn't win last time so let's see how it plays this time around but am certain dembele will win it.

In most cases the success of clubs is determined by trophies. So a player who is not in a trophy winning club might not attract attention of sport journalist coaches, club captain and other voters. Winning trophies such as the Champions League is not a yardstick for winning the Ballon d'Or but it's can influence the decision of voters. However, Ronaldo's position about the UCL been the main consideration is wrong because other titles are also prestigious.

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August 04, 2025, 08:32:16 PM
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If Ousmane Dembélé wins the Club World Cup, I will agree he's the clear favorite to win the Ballon d'Or, but Lamine Yamal also fulfilled all the requirements to win the Ballon D'Or, because all Barcelona recent successes, including winning La Liga and the Copa del Rey, have boosted Lamine Yamal profile to be a strong contender for the Ballon D'Or. and Let's get one thing straight, in football, winning the Ballon d'Or isn't always determined by having more goals and trophies. If that's the case, Vinicius and Haaland should be the top contenders for the 2024 and 2023 Ballon d'Or, not Rodri and Lionel Messi, but there were other factors that contributed to their wins, which I found convincing. So if Lamine Yamal or another contender wins the Ballon d'Or, I'll agree they deserve it.

From what I have seen and calculated, I don't think it's even about winning much or all the trophy although to that part is very important as it will boost you as a contender to be the top 3 or top 2 contestants for the award and the rest is left on the hands of coaches and important personnel like journalist and football analyst in the world of fifa and uefa to vote and cast their votes for the top candidate and that's why vini didn't win last time so let's see how it plays this time around but am certain dembele will win it.

You are right Ballon d'or winner sometimes is not determined by the number of trophies someone have, for instance now Mr X had 6 trophies and had 20 % appearance and Mr Y had 3 - 4 trophies with 80-90% appearance there is a high possibility that the player with 80-90% will win the award. Currently the award lies between Dembele and Lamine Yamal but I don't really know who will be favored because both players did very well, Dembele has always been their for Paris Saint Germain and Lamine Yamal also has been exceptionally great regardless of his age but good luck to them.











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August 04, 2025, 10:26:26 PM
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You are right Ballon d'or winner sometimes is not determined by the number of trophies someone have, for instance now Mr X had 6 trophies and had 20 % appearance and Mr Y had 3 - 4 trophies with 80-90% appearance there is a high possibility that the player with 80-90% will win the award. Currently the award lies between Dembele and Lamine Yamal but I don't really know who will be favored because both players did very well, Dembele has always been their for Paris Saint Germain and Lamine Yamal also has been exceptionally great regardless of his age but good luck to them.

It's true that last season performance will also be part of the assessment, so it's not just one season that's being judged. For example, if Dembele won more than three trophies this season, but his contribution was significantly less last season, that will also affect his assessment. I predict a strong likelihood that Dembele will win the Ballon d'Or this time around, and we'll see whether that happens or not.

Besides that, I think Yamal is indeed worthy of being a strong competitor for Dembele, as is M Salah. Overall, I admire these players, the quality and contributions they make to their respective teams are immense. Yamal still has plenty of time to prove his worth, if he doesn't win the Ballon D'Or this time, I'm quite confident he will in the future.
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It's eight more days go go anyways guys. My best bet for this remains Ousman Dembele winning. He ticks all the box we just have to wait now as it's already around the corner now. Dembele,  Vitinha, Yamal, Hakimi, Salah, and Raphinha are my first six picks.

It's a very good choice, I'm leaning heavily towards Dembele because he's a player who's already won the UCL and also had the opportunity to reach the final of the Club World Cup, he's a league champion and has won much more than at least Yamal, who is still a child because he still needs to mature a lot, giving him an award now with almost nothing he's won would be doing him a disservice.

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It's a very good choice, I'm leaning heavily towards Dembele because he's a player who's already won the UCL and also had the opportunity to reach the final of the Club World Cup, he's a league champion and has won much more than at least Yamal, who is still a child because he still needs to mature a lot, giving him an award now with almost nothing he's won would be doing him a disservice.

Dembele not only won Champion League but success leading the top scorer for PSG and I think right choose if win Ballon D'Or, not matter with PSG failed at FIFA Club World Cup but reached the final stage still the best achievement for giving him Ballon D'O winner.
Lamine Yamal not won Champion League and Barcelona's top scorer leading by Raphinha and I think better him if be the winner than Yamal, however depend on vote which the right player win Ballon D'or wish this time not any controversial by voting for players lack contribution for team and leave the player won many tittle exactly Champion League.
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If anyone here are confident that Salah will be chosen, you can bet and win good money, with odds of 25.0
If you believe Lamal will win, the odds are also good at 4.0



I don't think I'll bet because I believe Dembele will win, but 1.20 just doesn't compensate for the risk/return  Tongue

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Lamine Yamal not won Champion League and Barcelona's top scorer leading by Raphinha and I think better him if be the winner than Yamal, however depend on vote which the right player win Ballon D'or wish this time not any controversial by voting for players lack contribution for team and leave the player won many tittle exactly Champion League.

I also hope that some players don't get too polite, because for me that player still lacks a lot , I don't like how he does some things on the field, he's not a star yet, he's in a possible promotion but his personality on and off the field is a bit disappointing, in the context of the Ballon d'Or if they are fair, Dembélé should win it.

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Lamine Yamal not won Champion League and Barcelona's top scorer leading by Raphinha and I think better him if be the winner than Yamal, however depend on vote which the right player win Ballon D'or wish this time not any controversial by voting for players lack contribution for team and leave the player won many tittle exactly Champion League.

I also hope that some players don't get too polite, because for me that player still lacks a lot , I don't like how he does some things on the field, he's not a star yet, he's in a possible promotion but his personality on and off the field is a bit disappointing, in the context of the Ballon d'Or if they are fair, Dembélé should win it.


If winning this award is based on trophy wise then I think Dembele will definitely win the award because the dude has more trophy than Lamine Yamal but if it not rated by trophy wise then Lamine Yamal will win the award because what Lamine Yamal is playing at his age, no player, no legendary or hero has done it at this particular age that yamal is now and so it is an encouraging one and giving him the award will also motivate and boost his zeal and passion in football but the thing is if Dembele doesn't win this award he can never win it again but Lamine Yamal still has time and it is possible he can win in the future.











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Ousemane dembele all the way... That's who merits it the most for now -- nothing else is happening as a miracle to change that anyway. I don't know why people feel like lamine yamal has gotten to a stage where he already deserves the one of the most prestigious awards in football history, yet old-time players who gave in their all to the game never got close to it -- we talking of players like iniesta and pirlo?

 Who else was more deserving but didn't get it anyway? You'd realize that there's even a lot on the list than you may think. How many of y'all remember a guy like Jay-jay? A man so good that he was named twice? Yet nothing.. I feel like players of the younger age are not putting in much like the old timers did, but expect titles the old-timers never even got at their best.

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August 21, 2025, 11:57:48 PM
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Even though that I don't agree that the basis upon which the balloon Dior should only be given to the winner of the champions League because other players maybe good but may not be lucky when it comes to the champions and may le knockout of the champions League but there individual performance and that from their local league should be considered.


But how ever it's obvious that the team that won the balloon Dior has a lot of quality players that were fantastic and I think that they deserve the coveted price specifically Hakimi and Dembele
The winner of the Ballon d'Or is determined based on votes. There are several criteria, at least:
- Individual performance statistics
- Team achievements, both for club and national teams
- Public image, Class and fair play
Source: Ballon d'Or: How are the winners decided

Now, at the moment, it's undeniable that the toughest competition for the winner is:
Ousmane Dembele and Lamine Yamal.


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August 22, 2025, 12:27:57 AM
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Now, at the moment, it's undeniable that the toughest competition for the winner is:
Ousmane Dembele and Lamine Yamal.
Absolutely.. it's either Dembele or Lamiine yamal but if we look at it more closely at the moment, Dembele has more chance of winning  it  than Yamal..still, the vote could go in favour of Yamal Smiley. If that happens, the Internet space is going to cry  Grin for another one year, waiting for another episode of drama once again after the cycle  Grin..
But tbh Dembele deserves it this time around, still looking forward to what the vote will count for him but he's the man for 2025.

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August 22, 2025, 01:50:09 AM
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The Ballon d'Or itself is a purely individual award and also a symbol of success with the team. I think the assessors also have terms and conditions that must be met by anyone. Yes, currently there are two young names Lamine Yamal and Ousmane Dembele shining again as the strongest candidates for the 2025 Ballon d'Or as the data displayed attached by @rdluffy was born with various calculations and statistically who has more value will be considered in the future. in this case it is clearly seen Lamine Yamal although many hope that Ousmane Dembele is also very capable of this.
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August 22, 2025, 09:31:45 AM
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Now, at the moment, it's undeniable that the toughest competition for the winner is:
Ousmane Dembele and Lamine Yamal.



I really like Lamine Yamal, honestly i think he's a real talent for his age so he can still grow a lot.
I don't know the other player, but i am biased and since i really like Yamal, I'd obviously like him to win it.
Of course that's definitely not possible, but that's how i feel.

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Absolutely.. it's either Dembele or Lamiine yamal but if we look at it more closely at the moment, Dembele has more chance of winning  it  than Yamal..still, the vote could go in favour of Yamal Smiley. If that happens, the Internet space is going to cry  Grin for another one year, waiting for another episode of drama once again after the cycle  Grin..
But tbh Dembele deserves it this time around, still looking forward to what the vote will count for him but he's the man for 2025.
Yamal is strong but he still has a lot to prove and he could also get lost along the way, he is still young and hasn't proved anything yet so the fact that he is so pumped up could make life difficult for this boy who says he doesn't feel the pressure, but at the first shot we will see how he reacts

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