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August 29, 2025, 09:27:30 PM
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It's already clearly written on the walls that Dembele is the favorite to win Ballon D'or and I hope that it will be given to him without any sentiment from FIFA. Dembele won four trophies including the Champions League and Super Cup. How many trophies did Yamal win last season. These are what should be put into consideration before giving the award to the wrong person.

I know that FIFA wouldn't try to manipulate this one because there are a lot of side talks on how this award has lost its credibility. Yamal is good but his achievements wasn't up to that of Dembele last season. Maybe, he might win tha of next year.
I'm not surprised that FIFA tries to manipulate the result in favor of other players, they have done it in the past and will do it again with Messi, he has kind of turned the world upside down, I'm just saying that some of the Ballon d'Ors he has won have been unfairly awarded to him, that's why this competition is worth little

Let's not judge like that for now however you may be right that some Ballon d'or given to Messi he does not deserve it however in all the Ballon d'Or he was given those year he really performed very well so one can't entirely say he did not deserve it entirely, Leo Messi is a very good player and he performed very well and everyone knows that he is one of the greatest player that have ever lived so we can't really say he did not deserve it, FIFA need to give a very good standard when it comes to giving players Ballon d'Or so that everyone will know that this is their true standard and any player that got that standard as that year will be given the Ballon d'Or, but since they always change their standard every year it is clear that they are bias which is not supposed to be so, a lot of people are already losing that respect given to Ballon d'Or and if they continue with this kind of bias attitude when giving the Ballon d'Or the Ballon d'Or will lose it value in the world of football.

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August 30, 2025, 03:36:27 PM
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Guys, just a reminder that I think confuses a lot of people, and I completely understand, because I used to think the same thing

It's not FIFA that awards the Ballon d'Or, but the French magazine France Football
From 2010 to 2015, there was a partnership with FIFA, but that partnership has ended
This award has been around since 1956

FIFA has its own award called FIFA The Best

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September 02, 2025, 10:04:46 AM
 #123

The decision will be made on September 22nd among many possible names

https://www.uefa.com/ballondor/news/029c-1e6c534a4135-6241d5edd46e-1000--svelati-i-candidati-al-pallone-d-oro-2025/

Obviously there are also categories that we have never considered, such as women's football, in any case there are about 20 days left to know who will be the Ballon d'Or winner of 2025

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September 02, 2025, 10:47:33 AM
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The decision will be made on September 22nd among many possible names

https://www.uefa.com/ballondor/news/029c-1e6c534a4135-6241d5edd46e-1000--svelati-i-candidati-al-pallone-d-oro-2025/

Obviously there are also categories that we have never considered, such as women's football, in any case there are about 20 days left to know who will be the Ballon d'Or winner of 2025
Strikers and sometimes midfielders are more favoured in the selection of the winner of the Ballon d'Or. Defenders are not given the same privilege as others. Since the Yashin Trophy is reserved for goalkeepers, there should be another award reserved for defenders. I want to see some good defenders get recognition for their hard work and contribution to the beautiful game of football.

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September 02, 2025, 11:13:00 AM
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Guys, just a reminder that I think confuses a lot of people, and I completely understand, because I used to think the same thing

It's not FIFA that awards the Ballon d'Or, but the French magazine France Football
From 2010 to 2015, there was a partnership with FIFA, but that partnership has ended
This award has been around since 1956

FIFA has its own award called FIFA The Best

FIFA may not be in charge of the Ballon Dior, but they also have a say and decision about the award, FIFA president attend the program whenever they want to give the award to the player that win it, what I mean is that the France football magazine are in charge of the award, and they give it to any player they want, but they also let FIFA know about the winner and who should win the award, That is why the Ballon Dior has lost credibility, and the FIFA Best award is the best award in football history. In the last two seasons, Vinicius won the FIFA Best Award but did not win the Ballon Dior, which shows how corrupt the Ballon Dior is.

I don't see Ballon Dior as a big award in football because of how they change the criteria every season. Using different criteria every season has caused the award to lose credibility because some players would rather win the Champions League than the Ballon Dior because they know they won't win it even if they had a chance to win it.

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September 02, 2025, 11:22:26 AM
 #126

The decision will be made on September 22nd among many possible names

https://www.uefa.com/ballondor/news/029c-1e6c534a4135-6241d5edd46e-1000--svelati-i-candidati-al-pallone-d-oro-2025/

Obviously there are also categories that we have never considered, such as women's football, in any case there are about 20 days left to know who will be the Ballon d'Or winner of 2025
Strikers and sometimes midfielders are more favoured in the selection of the winner of the Ballon d'Or. Defenders are not given the same privilege as others. Since the Yashin Trophy is reserved for goalkeepers, there should be another award reserved for defenders. I want to see some good defenders get recognition for their hard work and contribution to the beautiful game of football.
Exactly how it feels being a defender.
Honestly, this years balloon d'or, there is no clear outstanding performer. It would have been Salah but he did not make it to the champions league finals according to Ronaldo's logic.
I also do think that if defenders were given thr credence that is due them, Dembele wouldn't be mentioned ahead of Hakimi but it is sad that no system is perfect. Defenders are disadvantaged in this one.
The award should be;
1. Best goal keeper
2. Best midfielder
3. Best striker
and there won't just be an overall best.


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September 02, 2025, 01:47:10 PM
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If winning this award is based on trophy wise then I think Dembele will definitely win the award because the dude has more trophy than Lamine Yamal but if it not rated by trophy wise then Lamine Yamal will win the award because what Lamine Yamal is playing at his age, no player, no legendary or hero has done it at this particular age that yamal is now and so it is an encouraging one and giving him the award will also motivate and boost his zeal and passion in football but the thing is if Dembele doesn't win this award he can never win it again but Lamine Yamal still has time and it is possible he can win in the future.

For as long as I can remember, the Ballon d'Or goes to the player who is awarded it because he has won almost all the competitions, including the UCL, and who has scored the most goals. So, in view of this, they are now diverting it to biases that make no sense For example, I never agreed when they gave it to Messi and not Lewandowski, when they gave it to Rodri and not Vini, those things are disappointing. Don't be surprised that they give it to the immature child Yamal.

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September 02, 2025, 09:34:35 PM
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For as long as I can remember, the Ballon d'Or goes to the player who is awarded it because he has won almost all the competitions, including the UCL, and who has scored the most goals. So, in view of this, they are now diverting it to biases that make no sense For example, I never agreed when they gave it to Messi and not Lewandowski, when they gave it to Rodri and not Vini, those things are disappointing. Don't be surprised that they give it to the immature child Yamal.


This is the current criterion for choosing the Ballon d'Or winner
Basically, 100 sports journalists from around the world make the selection



Source: https://www.bbc.com/sport/football/articles/c4g7jynnydlo#:~:text=Individual%20performances%2C%20decisive%20and%20impressive,Class%20and%20fair%20play


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September 16, 2025, 04:10:43 AM
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This is the current criterion for choosing the Ballon d'Or winner
Basically, 100 sports journalists from around the world make the selection



Source: https://www.bbc.com/sport/football/articles/c4g7jynnydlo#:~:text=Individual%20performances%2C%20decisive%20and%20impressive,Class%20and%20fair%20play



Well, according to that, if everyone is, let's say, from team X, but knowing that the player from team Y is better and has more awards and more merit, the journalists will choose the player from team X because they like him, that's a fact, the criteria are very qualitative and personal, well, that's how I see it.

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For as long as I can remember, the Ballon d'Or goes to the player who is awarded it because he has won almost all the competitions, including the UCL, and who has scored the most goals. So, in view of this, they are now diverting it to biases that make no sense For example, I never agreed when they gave it to Messi and not Lewandowski, when they gave it to Rodri and not Vini, those things are disappointing. Don't be surprised that they give it to the immature child Yamal.

Maybe this the very first post I'm on here in agreement with you. Wink  But then, there's no way they're voting for Lamine Yamal this year as the best player. It's got to be Ousman Dembele fr fr he's both played the Champions League Competition finals and also the club world cup finals. Also to add to your post is awarding Lionel Messi rather than Erling Haaland. This time, I'm sure it would be difficult as hell to not award the right candidate.

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September 16, 2025, 06:00:53 PM
 #131

This is the current criterion for choosing the Ballon d'Or winner
Basically, 100 sports journalists from around the world make the selection



Source: https://www.bbc.com/sport/football/articles/c4g7jynnydlo#:~:text=Individual%20performances%2C%20decisive%20and%20impressive,Class%20and%20fair%20play



Well, according to that, if everyone is, let's say, from team X, but knowing that the player from team Y is better and has more awards and more merit, the journalists will choose the player from team X because they like him, that's a fact, the criteria are very qualitative and personal, well, that's how I see it.

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The decision will be made on September 22nd among many possible names

https://www.uefa.com/ballondor/news/029c-1e6c534a4135-6241d5edd46e-1000--svelati-i-candidati-al-pallone-d-oro-2025/

Obviously there are also categories that we have never considered, such as women's football, in any case there are about 20 days left to know who will be the Ballon d'Or winner of 2025
Strikers and sometimes midfielders are more favoured in the selection of the winner of the Ballon d'Or. Defenders are not given the same privilege as others. Since the Yashin Trophy is reserved for goalkeepers, there should be another award reserved for defenders. I want to see some good defenders get recognition for their hard work and contribution to the beautiful game of football.

You're right. Most especially strikers are more favored by this Ballon d'Or more than others then followed by midfielders. In the history of Ballon d'Or based on my research, only three defenders ever won it beginning with the legendary German defender by name Franz Beckenbauer who was popularly known as Der Kaiser and known for his libero skills of sweeping. He won the Ballon d'Or twice and is the only defender in the history of football who has won it twice and doubles as the pioneer winner of the award in the 1970s. After him, the next defender is Matthias Sammer another German who became the second person to have won the Ballon d'Or as a defender in the late 1990s. He was also a libero and more of a defensive midfielder for the Dortmund club then. The last defender in history to have won the Ballon d'Or is Cannavaro, an Italian defender who became the third Ballon d'Or winner and the last recorded historically.

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This is what Cristiano Ronaldo said recently.

You can read about it from https://www.flashscore.com/news/soccer-champions-league-ronaldo-weighs-into-ballon-d-or-debate-it-should-go-to-champions-league-winner/niqxCKTp/

We have seen some times that the Ballon d'Or winner is not a player from the Champions League winner. Do you agree what C. Ronaldo said?

Winning the champions league title should not be a benchmark to getting the  balloon d' Or because it's not actually what needs to be considered alone. That balloon d' Or is awarded to players that are consistent with scoring goals and winning lots of competitions including the ucl. I don't agree with Ronaldo said and I don't really know why he would come up such, maybe they are trying to play a little politics here
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The decision will be made on September 22nd among many possible names

https://www.uefa.com/ballondor/news/029c-1e6c534a4135-6241d5edd46e-1000--svelati-i-candidati-al-pallone-d-oro-2025/

Obviously there are also categories that we have never considered, such as women's football, in any case there are about 20 days left to know who will be the Ballon d'Or winner of 2025
Strikers and sometimes midfielders are more favoured in the selection of the winner of the Ballon d'Or. Defenders are not given the same privilege as others. Since the Yashin Trophy is reserved for goalkeepers, there should be another award reserved for defenders. I want to see some good defenders get recognition for their hard work and contribution to the beautiful game of football.

You're right. Most especially strikers are more favored by this Ballon d'Or more than others then followed by midfielders. In the history of Ballon d'Or based on my research, only three defenders ever won it beginning with the legendary German defender by name Franz Beckenbauer who was popularly known as Der Kaiser and known for his libero skills of sweeping. He won the Ballon d'Or twice and is the only defender in the history of football who has won it twice and doubles as the pioneer winner of the award in the 1970s. After him, the next defender is Matthias Sammer another German who became the second person to have won the Ballon d'Or as a defender in the late 1990s. He was also a libero and more of a defensive midfielder for the Dortmund club then. The last defender in history to have won the Ballon d'Or is Cannavaro, an Italian defender who became the third Ballon d'Or winner and the last recorded historically.

It's all because the efforts of defenders ain't really that recognize and that's why the award is more favorable towards the attackers and midfielder but the truth is that defenders are a core part of the game and without them the game won't be interesting as teams and players would be scoring goals and it won't be competitive at all so I think setting up an additional awards or special treat to celebrate the impact of defenders is definitely a welcomed idea.
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September 16, 2025, 07:11:11 PM
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The decision will be made on September 22nd among many possible names

https://www.uefa.com/ballondor/news/029c-1e6c534a4135-6241d5edd46e-1000--svelati-i-candidati-al-pallone-d-oro-2025/

Obviously there are also categories that we have never considered, such as women's football, in any case there are about 20 days left to know who will be the Ballon d'Or winner of 2025
Strikers and sometimes midfielders are more favoured in the selection of the winner of the Ballon d'Or. Defenders are not given the same privilege as others. Since the Yashin Trophy is reserved for goalkeepers, there should be another award reserved for defenders. I want to see some good defenders get recognition for their hard work and contribution to the beautiful game of football.
It’s a good idea, you’re not alone in that thought a lot of us Football fans have once in a while thought of that but it’s for FIFA or whichever body that gives award to implement it. I would really love it for defenders to be recognised for all their hard works, they do all the dirty work and it’s unfair comparing them to strikers and midfielders who score goals and assists which is the highlight of football.
I think the best thing to do will be to give an award to every section of Football, best goalkeeper, best defender, best midfielder, best striker then an overall best player. How feasible is that lol…..

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September 17, 2025, 12:12:37 PM
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This is the current criterion for choosing the Ballon d'Or winner
Basically, 100 sports journalists from around the world make the selection



Source: https://www.bbc.com/sport/football/articles/c4g7jynnydlo#:~:text=Individual%20performances%2C%20decisive%20and%20impressive,Class%20and%20fair%20play



Well, according to that, if everyone is, let's say, from team X, but knowing that the player from team Y is better and has more awards and more merit, the journalists will choose the player from team X because they like him, that's a fact, the criteria are very qualitative and personal, well, that's how I see it.


There are 100 journalists who vote, from 100 different countries according to FIFA's ranking
And they have to choose the top 10

Obviously, a journalist can choose someone they prefer, but with 100 different people from different countries, I believe that the risk of someone voting just because they like a team and managing to elect them can be greatly mitigated

Last year's case is a good example: Real Madrid, which has many fans, is the most successful team and probably has the most fans around the world, with Vini JR, but he was not the one chosen; it was Rodri from Manchester City
In this case, Vini JR was the most popular choice, and journalists probably used more technical criteria for their choice

But I understand your opinion  Smiley

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September 17, 2025, 12:50:56 PM
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The decision will be made on September 22nd among many possible names

https://www.uefa.com/ballondor/news/029c-1e6c534a4135-6241d5edd46e-1000--svelati-i-candidati-al-pallone-d-oro-2025/

Obviously there are also categories that we have never considered, such as women's football, in any case there are about 20 days left to know who will be the Ballon d'Or winner of 2025

I don't like talking about Ballon Dior with people again because it sometimes leads to arguments, and Ballon Dior is no longer an award that many players want to win again because it has lost its credibility; the ballon organisation has made the award lose its credibility because they don't give it to who deserves; the award will be announced soon, and it won't be surprising if they give it to anyone because it has been happening for years now and nothing is done about it.

Ballon Dior is for players who have a good season by winning the Champion League, the League title, and with his performance on the pitch, but at the end they will give it to another player because they don't like him. I will never forget what happened to Vini last season, he is the clear favourite to win the award and they didn't give him because they said he is rude, I like the way Real Madrid reacted by not attending the ceremony and still not forgive them for what they did.

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September 17, 2025, 04:07:59 PM
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The decision will be made on September 22nd among many possible names

https://www.uefa.com/ballondor/news/029c-1e6c534a4135-6241d5edd46e-1000--svelati-i-candidati-al-pallone-d-oro-2025/

Obviously there are also categories that we have never considered, such as women's football, in any case there are about 20 days left to know who will be the Ballon d'Or winner of 2025
Strikers and sometimes midfielders are more favoured in the selection of the winner of the Ballon d'Or. Defenders are not given the same privilege as others. Since the Yashin Trophy is reserved for goalkeepers, there should be another award reserved for defenders. I want to see some good defenders get recognition for their hard work and contribution to the beautiful game of football.
It’s a good idea, you’re not alone in that thought a lot of us Football fans have once in a while thought of that but it’s for FIFA or whichever body that gives award to implement it. I would really love it for defenders to be recognised for all their hard works, they do all the dirty work and it’s unfair comparing them to strikers and midfielders who score goals and assists which is the highlight of football.
I think the best thing to do will be to give an award to every section of Football, best goalkeeper, best defender, best midfielder, best striker then an overall best player. How feasible is that lol…..

The strikers and midfielders are the verified key players or playmakers In the team, they're the ones that does the most job, when in comparison with the defenders. However I'm also of the opinion that there should be an award specifically for the defenders, then a player will take general award which will be given as the overall best player award.

 
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If winning this award is based on trophy wise then I think Dembele will definitely win the award because the dude has more trophy than Lamine Yamal but if it not rated by trophy wise then Lamine Yamal will win the award because what Lamine Yamal is playing at his age, no player, no legendary or hero has done it at this particular age that yamal is now and so it is an encouraging one and giving him the award will also motivate and boost his zeal and passion in football but the thing is if Dembele doesn't win this award he can never win it again but Lamine Yamal still has time and it is possible he can win in the future.

For as long as I can remember, the Ballon d'Or goes to the player who is awarded it because he has won almost all the competitions, including the UCL, and who has scored the most goals. So, in view of this, they are now diverting it to biases that make no sense For example, I never agreed when they gave it to Messi and not Lewandowski, when they gave it to Rodri and not Vini, those things are disappointing. Don't be surprised that they give it to the immature child Yamal.

I think it will be going to Dembele, well he deserves it more than any other player. He won the French league, French cup and even the champions league, and not just that he won them he was superb in all competitions. He was ligue 1 highest goal scorer and even the league best player last season. He was the most outstanding football player last season, I believed if was able to win the FIFA club world cup there won’t be questions about who will win the Ballon D’or.

Another advantage he has is that he is a French player, I know most people believe this advantage won’t count but I bet you it does.

If he doesn’t win it there will be a lot of questions asked, like what exactly are the criteria to be met before you can win the FIFA Ballon D’or.

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The strikers and midfielders are the verified key players or playmakers In the team, they're the ones that does the most job, when in comparison with the defenders. However I'm also of the opinion that there should be an award specifically for the defenders, then a player will take general award which will be given as the overall best player award.
Every player or position is important in football. A football team works like a system with subsystems (positions). Any subsystem that malfunctions will affect the entire system adversely.

Defenders are important because without quality players in the position, a team will concede many cheap goals. The reason why strikers and midfielders are given more priority in the Ballon d'Or award is that they contribute more to goals.     

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