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June 13, 2025, 06:52:31 PM
Last edit: June 13, 2025, 07:26:49 PM by pooya87
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Everything is being hit everywhere in Israel. The initial focus seems to be on complete destruction of NATO air defense in occupied land which includes the highly advertised THAAD system with its American personnel.
The second and third wave of retaliatory strikes are already on the way against the Israeli terrorists...

BTW this seems to be the first footage of the US made F-35 "stealth" bomber being shot down by an Iranian fighter jet. At least 4 kills are recorded so far. The Israeli terrorist sources have already approved 2.
Official sources in Iran report at least two of the kills and the arrest of one of the pilots so far (a female terrorist pilot)
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Hopefully the ongoing punishment of the Israeli terrorists and crippling of the Zionist genocide machine puts and end to the genocide in Gaza sooner and brings the liberation of the entire Palestine closer.

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June 13, 2025, 07:44:59 PM
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The mideeleast should be stopped from being a war zone they need development and peace, Iran has always stayed this way and it's bad to their reputation and the reason the US don't want them to possess nuclear power. Trump openly said it at the Saudi Arabia business conference that if Iran doesn't make a deal they'll suffer more Loss and he's tried to let them accept his offers but the nation refused now he made it clear on truth social that Iran would see bigger distructions.

Tell me why they would accept any offer from anyone. A country has the full right to develop its army, its weapons, and whatever it wants. Ask the US to stop Russia or North Korea. They cannot because US knows that Russia and North Korea will fuck US in every possible angle if US start talking about their business. The US and the terrorists Israel know that if Iran continues to do their nuclear research and make some nuclear weapons, Iran won't fear Israel and the US's threats anymore. Basically, Israel and the US want Iran to serve them and follow their command. They want to dominate every country in the world.

Motherfucker Trump is mentally unstable. I don't understand why the fuck the US people decided to elect him again. This motherfucker creating chaos all over the world. Iran has the full right to do their nuclear research and develop their power. They don't have to accept any offer from the US or the terrorist state of Israel.

I just realised that franky1 is a dickhead with his logics. LOL.
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June 13, 2025, 08:02:34 PM
Last edit: June 13, 2025, 08:13:48 PM by pooya87
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In case it wasn't obvious already: this is the first time fifth-generation fighter jets are being shot down anywhere in the world*. These US made F-35 "stealth" bombers were easily detected on Iranian radars and each were shot down with a single Iranian anti-aircraft missile.
And as always وَمَا رَمَیْتَ إِذْ رَمَیْتَ وَلَٰکِنَّ اللَّهَ رَمَىٰ

Some unofficial sources claim the pilot that was arrested is American... will we see carrier groups sink this week?

* I should mention that the honor of being the first to detect US military F-35 during active combat, locking on it successfully and launching a missile at it and almost hitting it belongs to the heroic people of Yemen.

P.S. Iran national TV just said the number of US made aircrafts shot down is 8...

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June 13, 2025, 08:28:34 PM
Last edit: June 13, 2025, 08:52:53 PM by franky1
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The mideeleast should be stopped from being a war zone they need development and peace, Iran has always stayed this way and it's bad to their reputation and the reason the US don't want them to possess nuclear power. Trump openly said it at the Saudi Arabia business conference that if Iran doesn't make a deal they'll suffer more Loss and he's tried to let them accept his offers but the nation refused now he made it clear on truth social that Iran would see bigger distructions.

Tell me why they would accept any offer from anyone. A country has the full right to develop its army, its weapons, and whatever it wants. Ask the US to stop Russia or North Korea. They cannot because US knows that Russia and North Korea will fuck US in every possible angle if US start talking about their business. The US and the terrorists Israel know that if Iran continues to do their nuclear research and make some nuclear weapons, Iran won't fear Israel and the US's threats anymore. Basically, Israel and the US want Iran to serve them and follow their command. They want to dominate every country in the world.

Motherfucker Trump is mentally unstable. I don't understand why the fuck the US people decided to elect him again. This motherfucker creating chaos all over the world. Iran has the full right to do their nuclear research and develop their power. They don't have to accept any offer from the US or the terrorist state of Israel.

I just realised that franky1 is a dickhead with his logics. LOL.
No one should engage with him in logical conversations.

seems your logic is warped.. what isreal, america, and many arabian nations are asking for is peace and agreement to co-exist in the middle east without threats.... try reading the abreham accords. try reading the NPT .. its not about controlling its about finding peace so all countries can prosper.. infact if iran stop the war, many nations will remove sanctions on iran, not tighten them..
.. its the war that is putting sanctions on iran not a warped illogical threat of control if iran agreed to peace
you have warped logic if you think peace = more tighter sanctions and control

you sound like pooya, you dont want peace and your not interested in learning or reading actual treaties and peace deals.. you just want the delusion and illogical thought to letting iran attack many nations.. you just want death and genocide if you support irans actions over many years

.. the reason iran cant sell oil and textiles to multiple nations is because iran wants war.. if iran agreed to peace iran can start selling produce internationally and prosper without conflict

Iran has the full right to do their nuclear research and develop their power. They don't have to accept any offer from the US or the terrorist state of Israel.

if iran agreed to peace, iran could still build nuclear power (for electric grid).. but not build weapons grade nukes of mass destruction that would leave radioactive clouds to blow over multiple nations for hundreds of years.. which is not good for anyone, including iran

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Remember the girl on the pink bed from this morning that was killed by the Israeli terrorists (left image)? That's her on the right. Parnia Abbasi, an Iranian poet and a teacher.
Because of her and other Iranian civilians including children that were killed or wounded by the terrorists and of course because of the 2.5+ million unarmed and oppressed Palestinians in Gaza, tonight the gates of hell are opened on Zionist terrorist that are occupying Palestine.

The commander of Iranian Guards just announced that 150 targets including the 3 airbases (Nevatim, Hevada, Tel-Nof) inside occupied lands were hit hard.

This is good but not enough. This has to continue until Israel is completely neutered in my opinion... Next step would be for Palestinians to liberate their homes.

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June 13, 2025, 09:33:58 PM
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infact if iran stop the war,
Iran stop the war?? When did Iran even start a war، at least in the last 30 years??

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infact if iran stop the war,
Iran stop the war?? When did Iran even start a war??

google 'iran proxy war'
find out the entire history

and no it was not irans god that funded and supplied the proxy's, it was irans treasury and military that funded and supplied the proxies

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I gotta say I am in awe of Iran's sophisticated layered air defense. I've said this many times before that Iran has by far the most advanced systems but even I didn't expect it to be at this scale with these capabilities and success rate against the entire NATO capabilities!

I've been analyzing every video that comes out ever since morning and the percentage of interception is phenomenal. I dare say at least 90% of the projectiles were intercepted successfully and only a handful have gotten through since morning. I just can't believe the number of radars, batteries, defense missiles, etc. that Iran has and is using so freely Shocked

P.S. The damage to apartment buildings and other stuff that have come out so far are by micro-drones launched by terrorist cells from within Iranian soil. It is worth mentioning many of these terrorists have already been arrested...
P.P.S. I also heard that Trump is running his mouth. Maybe tonight we have to say goodbye to 50000 US regime troops. What do you think Wink

Of course I must say:
وَمَا رَمَیْتَ إِذْ رَمَیْتَ وَلَٰکِنَّ اللَّهَ رَمَىٰ

you are delusional in soo many ways... iran leaders, nuclear specialists and many strategic sites are all gone. isreal set targets and those targets got hit.
accept the loss

you might want to sweep things under the rug, but even many years ago isreal found the weapons hiding underneath the rug factory. so your tactics wont work metaphorically or literally

and now you want to pretend your god cast the first stone.. no you idiot, it was iran that funded the oct 7th attacks on isreal and then funded the hamas, houthi rebels that continued attacks on isreal.. so now isreal is attacking the source.
iran threw first.. not some imaginary alien giant in the clouds you think exist

you have really revealed your hand in not wanting peace and not caring for innocent people. all you care for is the rebels and terrorists that have been shouting the motto "death to isreal, death to america" and have been very vocal about wanting nukes

wake up to reality and stop supporting the ones that want to fund and to cause true genocide against multiple nations and want nukes..

iran deserve to be deweaponised and sanctioned into poverty to not fund all these wars.
iran could have simply not breached the NPT and also could have signed the abreham accords, to then bring peace to the middle east and begun a era of prosperity for all nations in the area.. but instead they just wanted death and destruction.. and now the repercussions are hitting them back

I side with neither side but I can tell you people have been killing each other in the name of God Allah Yahweh for thousands of years and will continue to do so long after we are gone.

Sad but true.

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If truly the end of the war prophecy is a thing. I cant wait for it to happen sooner. Since we humans are stupid not to appreciate the value of life.
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I have just seen the news that Iran retaliates and striked back to Israel.  Undecided

If truly the end of the war prophecy is a thing. I cant wait for it to happen sooner. Since we humans are stupid not to appreciate the value of life.
Fame, power, money cant be taking to the grave, legends fuckin die, whatever will end up to be in life will someday perish under the ground turning to dust. I still don't see why we cannot share, and support one another to protect our very own existence.
It seems that every single good thing about peace and harmony is going to be impossible in that region. Most of these countries are against Israel and all they see is to start war on them. As Iran said, it was Israel that started it. We are not even didn't get over with the India's plan crash and now this, oh my world.  Cry

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I side with neither side but I can tell you people have been killing each other in the name of God Allah Yahweh for thousands of years and will continue to do so long after we are gone.

Sad but true.

This is not a religious war from the Palestinian side; it's fundamentally a struggle over land, displacement, and survival. The actions of the Zionist state suggest a clear agenda: to expel or eliminate those in Gaza who have not already been killed.

As for Franky, his views seem deeply influenced by a colonial mindset. Coming from a background shaped by an empire that occupied vast parts of the world and caused immense suffering, it's troubling that he now supports similar tactics being used by Israel, and thus I believe it is always wise to disgree with everything he says.

 
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First, I'm going to summarize the conversation up to this point (because it's interesting):

1. Pooya87 spoke, Franky felt bad and threw a "right hook" at him.

2. Hispo suggests that Netanyahu whispers in Trump's ear.

3. Pooya87 dodges the "right hook" and dances in the ring, dancing happily, saying things... basically informing the world, almost mocking his opponent.

4. Franky tries to dance in the ring but gets tired and starts rambling nonsense, as if he's fighting alone.

5. SuperBitMan or SuperPAZman shouts "common sense in the ring!"

6. Shishir99 from the front row shouts "logic!"

7. The fight ends. Pooya87 wins not by fighting, but because he dodged Franky, and Franky knocked himself out.

Now, my intervention:
Brothers, especially Franky... does water wet? From the very beginning, you spoke badly about the other guy, shouted stupid things to discredit him. That’s wrong. Well, even if it were right, it’s foolish to do it.

Please understand something—I'm sure NOBODY likes war, or death, or attacks, or living in fear of what might happen.

What I’m trying to say is that I believe what’s happening is simple—it’s the same thing that happened with great empires: Roman, Napoleonic, Mongol, British, German, and now the U.S.—a war economy. Blatantly stealing, like the U.S. did with Ukraine, and like it has done with Latin America.

The United States is a thieving empire—not its citizens, but its leaders. Israel is also a thief. Five or six billionaires uphold the U.S. economy.

I like that Iran is arming itself, because that way it can defend itself. Every country should be able to defend itself, in any way possible, and protect its interests.

War is imminent—just like in the last war, countries prepare ahead of time. It’s the same now. China has chips, India has an army, Russia is used to winning... I could be wrong, but without a doubt, the next step is Taiwan.
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I side with neither side but I can tell you people have been killing each other in the name of God Allah Yahweh for thousands of years and will continue to do so long after we are gone.

Sad but true.

This is not a religious war from the Palestinian side; it's fundamentally a struggle over land, displacement, and survival. The actions of the Zionist state suggest a clear agenda: to expel or eliminate those in Gaza who have not already been killed.

As for Franky, his views seem deeply influenced by a colonial mindset. Coming from a background shaped by an empire that occupied vast parts of the world and caused immense suffering, it's troubling that he now supports similar tactics being used by Israel, and thus I believe it is always wise to disgree with everything he says.

its complex.

a) not a fan of zionism since it pretty much is in direct conflict with the thou shalt not kill commandment.
b) not a fan of the brilliant attack on israel 🇮🇱 that killed 1300.

c) both sides play poker with lives

d) this goes back a real long time


e) it won’t end .


let’s play the idea that israel 🇮🇱 wipes everyout and makes the place 100% israel 🇮🇱.

trump makes a casino party place for all the world to enjoy.


I simply ask how long before a world trade center event two three for years.

i watched war after war since 1960s in that area.

i doubt it ever goes away or ends.


many sides play to gain via weapon sales etc.

is is a sad thing people do to each other.

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I side with neither side but I can tell you people have been killing each other in the name of God Allah Yahweh for thousands of years and will continue to do so long after we are gone.
You are only half right.

One side (the multi-national Zionist colonizers) is killing the indigenous population of Palestine in the name of whatever they worship because they think they are the superior race (similar to what fascists thought in the Nazi regime) and need to cleanse the earth from the 7 billion Amalek (means inferior creatures).

The other size (Palestinians with various religions or none at all) is simply defending their homes against a foreign invader because their choices are either complete annihilation or resistance. That has nothing to do with religion, just like eg. the French defended their homes against the Nazi invades back in WW2.

let’s play the idea that israel wipes everyout and makes the place 100% israel .
Then they'll move to the next phase of their plan, to wipe out Jordan, Lebanon and Egypt and call that "Greater Esra'eel". Then move to the next phase and next phase until world domination. As I said they believe 7 billion people (who are not born Zionists, ie of the "pure" bloodline) have to cleansed to "purify" earth!

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As for Franky, his views seem deeply influenced by a colonial mindset. Coming from a background shaped by an empire that occupied vast parts of the world and caused immense suffering, it's troubling that he now supports similar tactics being used by Israel, and thus I believe it is always wise to disgree with everything he says.

i do not support war or suffering.. i support the signing of peace treaties, no matter someone's religion(or lack/manipulation of), no matter the skin colour or dialect

just because i do not lick the ass crack of iranian funded rebels does not mean i support the opposite. i simply support the facts

if you think you should just blindly disagree with me only because i simply dont side with the iranian funded rebels. just reveals you blindly side with the rebels.
.. and shows you are not even willing to look away from the ass cheeks of rebels wanting your tongue to clean up their stinky actions

those supporting rebels never talk about wanting to sign peace deals, never even bring up the subject, all they want is to kill isreali's and americans
they pretend the only way for peace is the nuclear annihilation of their enemies.. those that support the iranian funded rebels are the genocidalists.

First, I'm going to summarize the conversation up to this point (because it's interesting):

1. Pooya87 spoke, Franky felt bad and threw a "right hook" at him.

3. Pooya87 dodges the "right hook" and dances in the ring, dancing happily, saying things... basically informing the world, almost mocking his opponent.

4. Franky tries to dance in the ring but gets tired and starts rambling nonsense, as if he's fighting alone.

7. The fight ends. Pooya87 wins not by fighting, but because he dodged Franky, and Franky knocked himself out.

Now, my intervention:
Brothers, especially Franky... does water wet? From the very beginning, you spoke badly about the other guy, shouted stupid things to discredit him. That’s wrong. Well, even if it were right, it’s foolish to do it.

Please understand something—I'm sure NOBODY likes war, or death, or attacks, or living in fear of what might happen.

1. pooya lied and shown his values are death and use of innocent as human shields. pooya threw a rahlplug (wall screw) thinking it was grenade/bomb/missile.
3. pooya then danced around to his own tune of playing a emotional violin and then he started poking his own eye to cause crocodile tears
4. i debunked pooyas nonsense, but pooya remained ignorant and blinded himself, because facts hurt his ideologies
7. pooya loves to fight even if he knows he is losing and his idols wont be sponsoring his fights for long

pooya loves the war and death, he manipulates facts. he loves that hamas, houthis (iranian funded rebels) use human shields, so he can play the emotional violin and do cry crocodile tears as an excuse of why opponents should not remove iranian funded rebels. he wants hamas and their funders(iran) to continue fighting, he does not want peace. he wants death, he wants nukes, he wants genocide. pooya won nothing..

pooya's creates fake evidence. ignores facts. pooya uses unresearched spoonfed clickbait and emotionally manipulative buzzwords
pooya thinks that (in other topic) that a small wall bolt (rahlplug) was a missile
pooya pretends that innocent people are the targets, yet iran funded rebels(hamas) put/keep innocent people in known rebel target zones
when the target are the houthi, hamas, (iran funded rebels), the innocents become collateral damage due to the rebels using innocent people as human shields. pooya wants the human shield tactic so his emotional violin can continue playing, to justify(falsely) the continuation and escalation of war started by iran funded rebels

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if the lame excuse to want to use a nuke is to force peace.. how about dont build one, dont use one. and simply sign a peace treaty.
using a nuke and innocent people as human shields is not about forcing peace. its about annihilation and genocide

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China and North Korea have already declared their supports for Iran in neutralising Israeli terrorist in the region. I have said it before that once Iran are ready to destroy the Zionist, they will be nothing left of them, infact the destruction will worst than  anything we have ever witnessed before. Very soon the US will start negotiating for a cease fire on behalf of the Zionist Army. This time,it's either the Israeli terrorists stop the genocide and the ethnic cleansing goings-on in Gaza or they will continue to face judgement with massive bombardment from Iran. More missile strikes are coming on the way,hope the Zionist Army are ready to receive the damage. This is indeed judgement day.
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google 'iran proxy war'
find out the entire history

Before you ask anyone to search "Iran Proxy War", you should do your own homework and search "USA Proxy War". Here is the list of Proxy wars https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_proxy_wars, and you can see how many proxy wars have been supported by the United States. Some of you are dumb as fuck that you do not want to admit what you are doing, but blame others.

The current War between Israel and Iran is a proxy war of the US. The United States is supplying arms to Israel and attacking Iran, Palestine, and some other countries in the Middle East. When people come with some logic, you guys stop hearing and seeing what was told.

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Thought provoking story ahead...

As we already knew, the NATO (specifically US) Navy has been desperately trying to defend the Zionist terrorists specially against incoming Iranian missiles. Regardless of the fact that they don't have the technology to do so, they have been launching extremely expensive intercept missiles at the incoming BMs. 99% of them fail and when something like SM-3 missiles fail, they self destruct.



This is a Standard Missile that can be worth up to $40 million and US Navy only has about a hundred or two of these (they produce 12 per year IIRC). After failure to intercept, it didn't self destruct. It continued flying for roughly 1500 kilometers and then safely landed inside Iranian soil in an open area and as the image shows, it doesn't seem to be damaged either Grin
You know what that means, right? Massive military grade classified intelligence leak... this will be studied and the vulnerabilities and shortcomings will be extracted. If needed, it can even be reverse engineered and mass produced for much cheaper price (maybe a grand per unit instead of $40 mil).

God works in mysterious ways indeed...


EDIT: Another US made "stealth" F-35 was shot down and the pilot is arrested too. The official count seems to be only 3 but some reliable sources are counting up to 12 having been shot down... Cool

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google 'iran proxy war'
find out the entire history

The current War between Israel and Iran is a proxy war of the US. The United States is supplying arms to Israel and attacking Iran, Palestine, and some other countries in the Middle East. When people come with some logic, you guys stop hearing and seeing what was told.

awwww poor guy..
under your belief you are trying to suggest the war is not about isreal being the target/opponent, but the war is about US being ultimate target and isreal are just the puppets of a US mission!?!

.. so what you are saying is that the hamas v isreal war is not about hamas and their sponsors(irans) other proxies trying to take over isreal
.. so you are saying that oct 7th 2023 was not performed by iranian proxies.. but was somehow US fault
.. so you think iranian proxies should claim isreal, because isreal is just US proxy/puppet

you really are clutching at straws

how about learn history of the land claims and transfers from the days of canaanites, isrealites and philistines
learn who's land has ultimate claim and historic progeny and provenance
learn about the tension centuries before US was even a country

you are foolish to even think the notion is 'isreal war is just because of US'

however, here is some reality for you
if iran did not sponsor and lead hamas, the tensions in isreal would not have escalated into a isreal v hamas war,
innocent palestinians and isrealis would sign the abreham accords with eachother (peace deal of co-existence)

also to note:
look how fast the houthi's stopped its iranian mission against isreal/US as soon as iran stopped funding/leading them
look how palestinians are waking up to hamas tactics and how some palestinians(PF) are now treating hamas as their agitators, aggressors, opponents of palestinians

..

let me guess your next silly argument
you are probably going to say because iran is using russian weapons, irans actions are innocent and they are just a proxy puppet of russia

and ill reply.. no its not about who the weapons are sourced by. its about the intent/mission of those using the weapons
hamas's agenda/mission is not to 'free palestine', its to follow irans motto of "death to isreal, death to america", hamas even use palestinians as human shields so they dont care about innocent palestinians freedoms,
hamas and iran do not want palestinians to refuge with neighbouring egypt. egypt have been threatened to withdraw palestinian humanitarian support by the hamas/iranian regime

isreal keep offering peace deals where arab-jew relations can co-exist(ie abreham accords), there have been many treaties offered. but when iranian proxies are mandated to decline peace deals of co-existence and instead follow the genocidal motto of "death to isreal, death to america", reveals alot about the intent of the fighters following a iranian mission, not a 'free palestine' mission

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The mideeleast should be stopped from being a war zone they need development and peace, Iran has always stayed this way and it's bad to their reputation and the reason the US don't want them to possess nuclear power. Trump openly said it at the Saudi Arabia business conference that if Iran doesn't make a deal they'll suffer more Loss and he's tried to let them accept his offers but the nation refused now he made it clear on truth social that Iran would see bigger distructions.

Tell me why they would accept any offer from anyone. A country has the full right to develop its army, its weapons, and whatever it wants. Ask the US to stop Russia or North Korea. They cannot because US knows that Russia and North Korea will fuck US in every possible angle if US start talking about their business. The US and the terrorists Israel know that if Iran continues to do their nuclear research and make some nuclear weapons, Iran won't fear Israel and the US's threats anymore. Basically, Israel and the US want Iran to serve them and follow their command. They want to dominate every country in the world.

Motherfucker Trump is mentally unstable. I don't understand why the fuck the US people decided to elect him again. This motherfucker creating chaos all over the world. Iran has the full right to do their nuclear research and develop their power. They don't have to accept any offer from the US or the terrorist state of Israel.

I just realised that franky1 is a dickhead with his logics. LOL.
No one should engage with him in logical conversations.

seems your logic is warped.. what isreal, america, and many arabian nations are asking for is peace and agreement to co-exist in the middle east without threats.... try reading the abreham accords. try reading the NPT .. its not about controlling its about finding peace so all countries can prosper.. infact if iran stop the war, many nations will remove sanctions on iran, not tighten them..
.. its the war that is putting sanctions on iran not a warped illogical threat of control if iran agreed to peace
you have warped logic if you think peace = more tighter sanctions and control

you sound like pooya, you dont want peace and your not interested in learning or reading actual treaties and peace deals.. you just want the delusion and illogical thought to letting iran attack many nations.. you just want death and genocide if you support irans actions over many years

.. the reason iran cant sell oil and textiles to multiple nations is because iran wants war.. if iran agreed to peace iran can start selling produce internationally and prosper without conflict

Iran has the full right to do their nuclear research and develop their power. They don't have to accept any offer from the US or the terrorist state of Israel.

if iran agreed to peace, iran could still build nuclear power (for electric grid).. but not build weapons grade nukes of mass destruction that would leave radioactive clouds to blow over multiple nations for hundreds of years.. which is not good for anyone, including iran

Franky tends to give stupid irrelevant examples to justify stuff that is obviously wrong. I agree on the principle of not trying logic with Franky, been there, tried that.

The current war is not really a "Proxy", but on this the US and Israel have the same interest - not having Theran armed with nukes.

Pooya is an Iranian propagandist and I do not envy his job... serving the Ayatolahs is becoming harder and harder.

There is nothing like a THAAD destroyed, there is nothing like "all NATO destroyed"... this is to the point that Israel IS NOT a member of NATO (too many links with the Ruzzis I am afraid). What you have in front is a war that may last for a long time, where the opposing party has a good degree of air superiority and, unfortunately, a radicalised Israel that is more prone than usual to violent solutions.

As an example of what is wrong in the region... yourself Pooya claiming for war and an inexistent defeat instead of for negotiations and peace.

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