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Many here become businessmen without going to high school, only elementary school but they learned business from long experience but finally now they are successful.
But someone who goes to college, with their field of expertise will only be a worker, but if in a big company it might make you RICH.
I think there are also lots of people who are unsuccessful in setting up their businesses. Yes, there are lots of undergraduates who set up a business establishment but only a few of them became rich. Just like those who graduate from college, only a few of them get really rich but unlike those many undergraduates, the majority of them (college graduate) are living a decent life. Do not underestimate the power of a degree, and the knowledge that comes from it. Those entrepreneur success stories are too small in relation to entrepreneurs who failed. At the end of the day, those who have the knowledge skill, connection, and smart thinking become successful regardless of whether they are in a profession or in a business career.
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Do not underestimate the power of a degree, and the knowledge that comes from it. Those entrepreneur success stories are too small in relation to entrepreneurs who failed. At the end of the day, those who have the knowledge skill, connection, and smart thinking become successful regardless of whether they are in a profession or in a business career.
If we discuss college programs, then in the current era, college programs related to AI, quantum technology, blockchain or data analysis specialists are examples of programs with great potential in the future. Most jobs will probably be replaced by robots. However, jobs that require creativity or empathy will still be difficult to replace by AI. But if we talk in a broader context, one of the privileges that you will get in college is connections and relationships. Yes, that's what my teacher taught me. You may not study in AI because it is not your expertise. But you can still study in other programs and during college you build many relationships and connections. You know a lot of people, so your chances of being successful after graduation are very high. Being smart is not enough. Because in today's era, how big your network of friends is much more important.
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Becoming a doctor will not be that easy and if you become a general practitioner it will not make you rich, the one who becomes rich is a doctor who has become a professor or expert but this does take years even when you are old it is difficult, the cost is VERY expensive. Surely not all people have opportunity becoming doctor due how much money spending since first years until success become doctor, in my country Indonesia only few percent have opportunity become doctor and every region get difficulty to find doctor due not all citizen have chance to be doctor. But its most profitable return profit program for college but must ready for spending much money at the first time comparison with other college program have cheaper cost. Many here become businessmen without going to high school, only elementary school but they learned business from long experience but finally now they are successful.
But someone who goes to college, with their field of expertise will only be a worker, but if in a big company it might make you RICH.
No doubt many successful businessman without going to high school but if you can balance yet as college with business program you have bigger opportunity and get faster moment to be successful businessman. Firstly need to higher education how to be success businessmen and support good financial until how braveness make decision with your business make its easily and faster become businessman. In my opinion, to be businessman with higher education have better than without get higher education.
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College programs won’t make us rich, but they can be our stepping stone towards reaching our dreams and goals in life. However, they can’t guarantee us to get rich, but with the knowledge and skills we have nurtured and developed throughout college days, it can lead us to gain higher chances of getting rich.
Now the question is, are those who weren’t able to go into college will be deprived of getting rich in the future? Certainly, no. We have seen a lot of college dropouts who were able to succeed in life, as long as they have their own unique skills and positive life’s attitudes that will guarantee their life’s success.
Some years ago, a young dude dropped out of school to chase his musical career and this became the talk of the town. I remembered a friend of mine, asked me, if the guy did the right thing and I said no that education was important. I was right in some way and I was also wrong. Today, he's not just one the famous and the richest musician in the country but in the continent. Another thing is, he later went to school and bagged a degree. From what I've seen over the years, I've come to realize that education is important but it may not guarantee riches. Sometimes, chasing your dream is better, especially when you live in a developing country where you're not sure of securing a job after graduation.
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Also, it depends on how you will strategize to get a job after you graduated. Most of the time, you will get a job not aligned to your field of study. And if you venture into a business, much better to equip yourself with knowledge related to the business you are dealing with. Because if you will just work from 9-5 job, I don't think you can easily reach your targets.
Nothing is certain but you could choose a course that aligns with the area that lacks employees in a certain country. It might not necessarily mean going to college and getting degrees. It could be learning a skill that relates to the job. I am aware that qualified medical doctors are in high demand in my country. I have also read that drunk drivers are in high demand in Canada and some other countries. It will not be a wrong decision to channel your efforts to these areas. Anyway, I also encourage graduates to acquire skills because they might not get a job that is related to their course of study. Starting a business is not a bad idea, considering that there is a high rate of unemployment in some countries.
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So it's more profitable with skills than degrees and all of that.
It varies per person. If someone is looking up to have his/her own degree because they think that there will be more opportunities after having one, they have to stick to that plan. But in reality today, there are more skilled people that goes to the jobs in actual that they know what to do. They don't want to spend a longer time finishing degrees because they know what's with the reality. So, if there are people that are skillful, they know what they want and goes directly to the jobs that offer them better salary. To be honest, the truck drivers have better pay than the typical office workers. Now recently a good argument is going to be on between skills and degree but nothing is clear because both sides are having their own views which are working, and they are doing stuff which needed to be done, but one thing is sure college programs have never been make you rich is right. Here need some good things as well which always helps for having better life and increased income because just holding college degree never allow being successful needs experience and skills which also increase chances while if you are skilled but had no degree this is still better place for you to enjoy your life. Traditional mindset is now having no place because things are going more competitive and life is having more challenges which needs to stay in touch for all without having this traditional mindset which always stopped being revolutionary in life and fight hard for better challenges.
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Dont understand what makes you laugh in my post. Choosing medical sector or being a doctor as profession to become rich is a very risky move. Not only a person has to study for many years and pay a lot of money for education, but to become rich «from being a doctor» its close to impossible imo.
Stop making it look scary, medicine is a good and honourable course, a course that is worth building your career if you have the passion for it. As for being rich, well, that is not the direct case, it's about being successful per se, the two are dependent of the mindset, and surely, medicine will make you rich, no doubt, it has produced many millionares in this world, so the time and energy invested in it is worth it. However, I don't see the risk you are referring to here, other than the natural risk attached to any facet of life. And I don't even expect anyone to think towards that side. Medicine paves the way for many opportunities all over the world, aside from the pay, so I don't see any risk that is not worth it here.
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To be honest, the truck drivers have better pay than the typical office workers.
But one thing is that a truck driver will always be a driver and will work for life. Meanwhile, office workers with education and degrees just need to work hard, accumulate experience and improve their skills. They will have the opportunity to advance in their career to become department heads or directors with many times higher incomes. Or not stopping there, those with greater ambitions can take advantage of their position, qualifications and relationships from their old company to start a business and become their own boss. I agree that education and degrees are not the only path to wealth. But in my opinion, people who only have skills and look down on degrees, and think they can make a lot of money, are just short-sighted. They can also be business owners if they're able to make themselves as boss of truckers. Many things they can do, make an agency for truck drivers and send them to the companies and they're the ones that will be getting paid for that and they get a commission for managing them. Because they know how the field goes as an actual truck driver. And the other possible business that they can do once they're done with their driving career is to make their own truck fleet. The employee mentality and the businessman mentality will be different in their approach to education. I no longer think of changing my own direction after all my degrees - but something about the future of my children is my responsibility now.
I will not really expect my child to be a permanent employee somewhere that gives him a monthly salary without a big hope of becoming rich from it - but I will try to change it in my own way so that they can get the best. The role of parents is to educate and direct them to be useful and productive - not just to be employees.
That's what we should do as parents. We need to hone them and train them while they're young to be entrepreneurs and not employees. But when they're grown up, they are still the one to choose their path. Now recently a good argument is going to be on between skills and degree but nothing is clear because both sides are having their own views which are working, and they are doing stuff which needed to be done, but one thing is sure college programs have never been make you rich is right. Here need some good things as well which always helps for having better life and increased income because just holding college degree never allow being successful needs experience and skills which also increase chances while if you are skilled but had no degree this is still better place for you to enjoy your life.
Traditional mindset is now having no place because things are going more competitive and life is having more challenges which needs to stay in touch for all without having this traditional mindset which always stopped being revolutionary in life and fight hard for better challenges.
I think that people of the world have realized that it's no longer about titles and such. As long as we make good money with the trade that we have, that's the important thing. An employee or a businessman, with college degree or not, as long as it brings food to the table and it's stable, that's all the matters to most nowadays.
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It’s not all about college programs like getting a good degree or choosing a better choice then expect success to fall in line after graduating, things don’t work this way. Op made a point tho but either depends on the person goal towards their career likewise computer science, a person with zero goal can decide to study one of the best course “computer science” yet fail to make a difference. From my observation it’s all about a good goal set for success although medical courses are way too expensive talk less of the stress students undergo. No study is exempted instead everyone can make profit out of their discipline. No doubt living in a modern world, everything wants to be connected with technology but if everyone gets this same impression about profit making no one will be allowed to make their choice freely and young students might bother less about being a medical student.
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But one thing is that a truck driver will always be a driver and will work for life. Meanwhile, office workers with education and degrees just need to work hard, accumulate experience and improve their skills. They will have the opportunity to advance in their career to become department heads or directors with many times higher incomes. Or not stopping there, those with greater ambitions can take advantage of their position, qualifications and relationships from their old company to start a business and become their own boss.
I agree that education and degrees are not the only path to wealth. But in my opinion, people who only have skills and look down on degrees, and think they can make a lot of money, are just short-sighted.
They can also be business owners if they're able to make themselves as boss of truckers. Many things they can do, make an agency for truck drivers and send them to the companies and they're the ones that will be getting paid for that and they get a commission for managing them. Because they know how the field goes as an actual truck driver. And the other possible business that they can do once they're done with their driving career is to make their own truck fleet. Of course, it is possible, but it is much easier said than done. I wish drivers could do as you say or skilled people could achieve the success they desire but let's be realistic. How many people who only have skills without caring about degrees, or only have a truck driver's license or vocational certificate can own companies or hold important positions in companies and corporations? As far as I know, not only large corporations in the world but also small and medium enterprises in every country. Most of the director, department head and general director positions are held by people with educational qualifications. In your country, are there any companies where you can apply for a leadership position with just skills and experience, without a degree? Honestly, I've never seen that before.
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Stop making it look scary, medicine is a good and honourable course, a course that is worth building your career if you have the passion for it.
As for being rich, well, that is not the direct case, it's about being successful per se, the two are dependent of the mindset, and surely, medicine will make you rich, no doubt, it has produced many millionares in this world, so the time and energy invested in it is worth it.
However, I don't see the risk you are referring to here, other than the natural risk attached to any facet of life. And I don't even expect anyone to think towards that side. Medicine paves the way for many opportunities all over the world, aside from the pay, so I don't see any risk that is not worth it here.
This is just a way to choose a good profession that will allow you to build a good career and earn a good income. But it definitely does not guarantee that you will become a successful and wealthy person, because it all depends on how you are able to manage your finances. You can earn a lot, but if you do not save anything, spend everything, and even get into debt, then no successful career and no high salary will help you achieve the goal of becoming a wealthy person.
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Dont understand what makes you laugh in my post. Choosing medical sector or being a doctor as profession to become rich is a very risky move. Not only a person has to study for many years and pay a lot of money for education, but to become rich «from being a doctor» its close to impossible imo.
Stop making it look scary, medicine is a good and honourable course, a course that is worth building your career if you have the passion for it. As for being rich, well, that is not the direct case, it's about being successful per se, the two are dependent of the mindset, and surely, medicine will make you rich, no doubt, it has produced many millionares in this world, so the time and energy invested in it is worth it. However, I don't see the risk you are referring to here, other than the natural risk attached to any facet of life. And I don't even expect anyone to think towards that side. Medicine paves the way for many opportunities all over the world, aside from the pay, so I don't see any risk that is not worth it here. I dont try to make it look scary. If someone wants to be a doctor - go ahead, I would only support that, as people of such profession are demanded and respected. But, to go to study medicine to become rich, that imo is not the goal of such profession. Those who go to study medicine must focus on helping people, but not to fill pockets with money. You suggest medicine as a college program that will make person rich. Can you give direct answer then, what should a person study? Which profession he should aim? Being a nurse wont make you rich. Being a pediatrician wont make you rich. Being a laboratory employee wont make you rich. So who among doctor can become rich? Maybe you can give example of millionaires?
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If you aren't interested in something you won't be able to make a name for it either. This is the mindset of my family. Tbh, you can't tell a person to be what or what course should he take. It totally depends on that person and his interests. We don't have doctors in our family, and it never grew our fantasy that, you must be a doctor. We never even tried to be one, nor gave the exams to qualify for one. Now the most important thing, being rich! I mean it doesn't matter, what course you ar studying. I mean it does, but at the end of the day, company wants skills not some degree. Being a doctor is certainly a respected one, but you have to be a good one, and not everyone can achieve that.
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If you aren't interested in something you won't be able to make a name for it either. This is the mindset of my family. Tbh, you can't tell a person to be what or what course should he take. It totally depends on that person and his interests. We don't have doctors in our family, and it never grew our fantasy that, you must be a doctor. We never even tried to be one, nor gave the exams to qualify for one. Now the most important thing, being rich! I mean it doesn't matter, what course you ar studying. I mean it does, but at the end of the day, company wants skills not some degree. Being a doctor is certainly a respected one, but you have to be a good one, and not everyone can achieve that.
Even if a person will chose to seek a degree that may gain higher chances to get rich in the future, but if he’s not capable and skillful on his craft, still he will never be in demand. Just like not all doctors have ended up getting rich, because some don’t have the skills, even good personality that will treat their patients right. College courses may mold ourselves and develop us, but it’s up to us how we will maximize that experience so we can be more successful and profitable when the real-life battle begins.
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Even if a person will chose to seek a degree that may gain higher chances to get rich in the future, but if he’s not capable and skillful on his craft, still he will never be in demand. Just like not all doctors have ended up getting rich, because some don’t have the skills, even good personality that will treat their patients right.
College courses may mold ourselves and develop us, but it’s up to us how we will maximize that experience so we can be more successful and profitable when the real-life battle begins.
This reminds me of a senior person of mine. Currently he is a freelancer and set up a marketing agency with his friends where all of them are skilled in different sector. One is a professional photographer, one is video editor, one is graphic designer, one is web dev. And all of them are running this agency. The funny thing is, this senior of mine is a software engineer, and according to him after graduating he didn't even taken out his certificate from his unuversity. The certificate surely would have helped getting a decent job but he choose not it. He just wasn't interested. He had other desires and went on solo. 
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People enter into medicine because of a call from inside to help the sick.
However the profitability of any degree or job is that easy to configure. Getting into engineering is easier now in India and landing up a job is also common but a top level job would need good grades and years or work. On the other hand doctors have some sort of stable pay in hospitals and as they advance their degrees they reach work life balance and eventually earn in bigger numbers.
If you have a passion for any of them go for it, but never force yourself to get into something because you think it is profitable. It might change in future.
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Dont understand what makes you laugh in my post. Choosing medical sector or being a doctor as profession to become rich is a very risky move. Not only a person has to study for many years and pay a lot of money for education, but to become rich «from being a doctor» its close to impossible imo.
Stop making it look scary, medicine is a good and honourable course, a course that is worth building your career if you have the passion for it. As for being rich, well, that is not the direct case, it's about being successful per se, the two are dependent of the mindset, and surely, medicine will make you rich, no doubt, it has produced many millionares in this world, so the time and energy invested in it is worth it. However, I don't see the risk you are referring to here, other than the natural risk attached to any facet of life. And I don't even expect anyone to think towards that side. Medicine paves the way for many opportunities all over the world, aside from the pay, so I don't see any risk that is not worth it here.Am also trying to figure out the risk he meant, or does he mean the capability or raising the required capital to start up a personal clinic or hospital after getting the professional medical certificate? Maybe that's the risk he is talking about. As for being rich through that course, it's possible, but the kind of financial status that an individual wants to attain is usually based on their mindset. Some medical doctors don't even have the mindset or wide dream to set up their own private hospital, they just want to he employed in a hospital either government or private, where they are paid very well and the payment they get can sustain them for all their needs.
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People enter into medicine because of a call from inside to help the sick.
However the profitability of any degree or job is that easy to configure. Getting into engineering is easier now in India and landing up a job is also common but a top level job would need good grades and years or work. On the other hand doctors have some sort of stable pay in hospitals and as they advance their degrees they reach work life balance and eventually earn in bigger numbers.
If you have a passion for any of them go for it, but never force yourself to get into something because you think it is profitable. It might change in future.
We idealize the calling in medicine and overlook the fact that the entire system has become industrialized. You speak of the internal desire to heal, then you bump into the machine: standardized tests, sadistic rotations, the never-ending economic negotiation that is less about patients and more about which insurance covers what. I have seen docs who came in with fire in their eyes and can no longer look at an EMR screen without zoning out Engineering is no better. It has this meritocratic myth. You work hard enough at code, and you find yourself in the Bangalore dream, avoiding traffic in an Uber. Reality: the majority of jobs are a conveyor belt of middle-level work, the actual money and the best jobs are left to a micro-club with connections or luck or both. Everybody else? They switch between optimism and despair, LinkedIn on one tab and job boards on the other
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Some years ago, a young dude dropped out of school to chase his musical career and this became the talk of the town. I remembered a friend of mine, asked me, if the guy did the right thing and I said no that education was important. I was right in some way and I was also wrong. Today, he's not just one the famous and the richest musician in the country but in the continent. Another thing is, he later went to school and bagged a degree.
I want to ask , in your town, how many young men and women, and how many people can do what that young guy did? I mean, why do we rely on a few special, rare cases as examples and assume that if they can do it, we and others can do it too ? Like we have billionaires who dropped out of school and had no degrees like Mark Zuckerberg, Steve Jobs...should we follow their example, and can we do what they do? Instead, why not look at the unemployment rate in your country and globally? We will see that the majority of low income , poor, unemployed people are those who do not have education and degrees. From what I've seen over the years, I've come to realize that education is important but it may not guarantee riches. Sometimes, chasing your dream is better, especially when you live in a developing country where you're not sure of securing a job after graduation. If education could guarantee wealth, I bet the poor would never have the opportunity to go to school, the rich would never let that happen. Education does not guarantee anything but at least it gives us the opportunity to escape poverty, whether we can grasp and take advantage of it or not depends on each person.
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They can also be business owners if they're able to make themselves as boss of truckers. Many things they can do, make an agency for truck drivers and send them to the companies and they're the ones that will be getting paid for that and they get a commission for managing them. Because they know how the field goes as an actual truck driver. And the other possible business that they can do once they're done with their driving career is to make their own truck fleet.
Of course, it is possible, but it is much easier said than done. I wish drivers could do as you say or skilled people could achieve the success they desire but let's be realistic. It's possible when they have already learned the process and want to get a head start for better opportunities and better salaries. How many people who only have skills without caring about degrees, or only have a truck driver's license or vocational certificate can own companies or hold important positions in companies and corporations? As far as I know, not only large corporations in the world but also small and medium enterprises in every country. Most of the director, department head and general director positions are held by people with educational qualifications.
In your country, are there any companies where you can apply for a leadership position with just skills and experience, without a degree? Honestly, I've never seen that before.
As we're discussing, it's not about those with good educational background but skills. Given those positions from directors and higher offices, they are required with good educational credentials. But not going far with truck drivers and other skilled positions, they can also make good money as long as they're on the right place. You're talking about leadership positions but I've given the example of a laborer and skilled truck driver, it won't match.
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