Bitcointalk Appreciation Thread

[Catenaccio]

So, a few months ago, I started using the other forum, Altcoinstalks

What I discovered was that they have a Shop there, a place where you can buy features and abilities, badges, special ranks, and whatnot.

Bitcoin forum (Bitcointalk.org) no longer needs donations.
Bitcoin forum is not a shop to purchase skins for accounts.
Bitcoin forum is much better than Altcoinstalks forum and it does not need to immitate policies used on Altcoinstalks forum.

If you want to rank up, make good posts, contribute to forum community and achieve higher ranks. In addition, you will also achieve reputation and even get appointment as a merit source or forum moderator. Let's do it gradually over time, and achieve those things naturally.

[SmartGold01]

If we want to talk about the forum, it has a good financial reserve, sufficient to manage its expenses for years without problems, so there's no need for donations. However, compared to the available funds, bitcointalk's development remains limited.

There are numerous discussions about developing the forum, but there is no clear roadmap for the next steps.

From what I understood from OP he is directly referring to the other forum, and of course I don't think that forum is worthy enough to be compared here as Bitcoin talk forum gains the highest traffic over other sites that shares Bitcoin related information.
Although what I noticed from the other forum is that they does that to further raise funds for their development and maintenance, of course Bitcointalk forum has sufficiently enough to further maintaining site and keep it running without any limitations.

[AVE5]

That being said, this thread is less about discussing the shortcomings of the other forum but more about appreciating the freedom and general abilities we get in this forum for being simple, non-donor users.

Bitcoin as the first crypto currency gains more attractions as much AltCoins are quite increasing in developing more alt currencies due to the bitcoin reputations being much reliable and valuable in comparison to other cryptocurrencies which I like it because where there's no competition is not regarded.
That's equivalent to what happens here in the bitcointalk forum and every other platforms that tends to focus on crypto discussions.

This forum and bitcoin itself are more friendly in accessibility while every other cryptocurrencies and platforms are complicating an complex.
I think those notable factors alone shouldn't be a burden to this community neither enthusiasts.
The more those other platforms are already in their crypto discussions is there more we're gaining more dominance because we just can't be compared.
So we can just let them breath and enjoy what Satoshi has installed for us here. We've no connection with the others even when they try imitating.

[Alone055]

First of all, it seems like most of the users here are misunderstanding the context of this thread, and considering a comparison thread, so I want to say that as I mentioned it both, in the opening post and the title, the purpose of this thread is not to do a comparison, but it is to appreciate the freedom we have, the freedom that allows us to make posts, modify them, and be able to delete them if we want; the freedom that allows us to create threads, move them, lock them, or delete them at will, that too without needing a special rank that we need to purchase.

How in the world can I compare a forum; that was created by the man himself, the legend, who is the reason why we are all here today, and who is the reason why this whole space exists; with a forum that was created by someone random that we don't even know anything about, or any of his achievements. So, my purpose was only to praise Bitcointalk, that's it.

I don't think altcointalk related issues should be discussed here especially not in this Meta section rather should be moved to off-topic.

This is not a thread discussing issues related to AltcoinTalks, but it's a thread appreciating Bitcointalk, this forum, and Meta is the section where such threads should be posted.

FYI, Bitcointalk accepted donations too in the past and there are special ranks too called VIP when someone donated 50BTC or above and donator if they donated 10BTC.

Lol, I obviously know that, but Bitcointalk never monetized simple features or abilities such as deleting your own posts or moving your own threads, and asked members to make donations to enable these features.

I would have preferred an appreciation thread for this forum that did not focus on the comparison with another forum. Focusing on how it came about, posts by Satoshi, Hal, and others. On unique moments, like Lazlo's pizza shopping and such.

The things and events you've mentioned are appreciated and mentioned all the time. Of course, we all appreciate everything the OGs did for the world, or in this forum, those are unforgettable events and memories. Still, this thread is about appreciating the fact that this forum has given freedom to users of every rank, and didn't monetize anything for gains.

You don't need to look down on another to feel higher.

Sometimes, when you have something that you don't generally appreciate for whatever it is, you start to realize how good it is when you get another version of the same thing, but with a bunch of limitations and restrictions. That will make you appreciate the old thing even more.

Everything you wrote doesn't really make sense to me, because in the same topic you managed to pay tribute to Satoshi, the admin, the forum they created - and try to compare it with another forum that is focused on altcoins. It is true that on both forums there are some options that can be purchased, but what does that have to do with freedom of expression and general possibilities when it comes to both forums?

I don't understand why nothing made sense to you because I've tried to explain everything very clearly. However, let me explain it to you again.
It doesn't matter whether another forum is focused on altcoins or not; both forums are discussion forums created with the same software (SMF) with different versions, and it makes complete sense to say that one forum has way more freedom than the other when it comes to basic features and functions allowed for users, and I appreciated satoshi and the admins for that.

I never mentioned freedom of expression or general possibilities, but I was talking about general freedom and abilities, the freedom and abilities that allow users from any rank to use the basic features that aren't available for free in the other forum, and I don't see anything wrong in me appreciating this forum or the admins for it.

[_BlackStar]

Anything created after the BitcoinTalk forum with similar functions can be called a replica of the product, as is usually called a fake. The altcoin forum already says that there cannot be much useful there, since we know the attitude of many to such coins; moreover, the desire to take some amounts for every breath and exhalation only proves that that forum does not reach the power of our forum. I watched it but did not want to be there for a minute. You should always appreciate originality; replicas or copies cannot be exact-there will always be a quality mark on the original.

In this case - I totally agree with you. Altcointalk is a forum that was created after bitcointalk was established and unshakeable - its purpose is the same as a discussion place, but there are many lack that make many of bitcointalk's members uncomfortable to be there even for a short time. I have personally been there to review and just know - but to be honest, I don't like it.

The main focus of altcointalk is basically for altcoins - but not limited to bitcoin and other discussions. Bitcointalk is much better and organized - even if mixers have been banned so far. There are many mixer projects on altcointalk as far as I know - but bitcointalk has banned them.

[Odusko]

Not been active on that forum, but we need to understand that things take time to grow and for reasons we are not going into judging how far that forum have performed, the traffic on altcointalk grows significantly because of the migration option that many have mentioned already, if not I believe none will be willing to build an account with the level of knowledge and space that Bitcointalk have provided with.

[Alone055]

Not been active on that forum, but we need to understand that things take time to grow and for reasons we are not going into judging how far that forum have performed, the traffic on altcointalk grows significantly because of the migration option that many have mentioned already, if not I believe none will be willing to build an account with the level of knowledge and space that Bitcointalk have provided with.

Hopefully, the growth will eventually reach a point where at least basic functionalities will become free for its users.

[Churchillvv]

The forum is some how not up to our teste for some reason but it's not bad in my opinion, whoever is the admin of that forum is taking the road maps of bitcointalk.org because the features of paying for a special rank was also held here in this forum when donations were a thing and now the community have enough to sponsor it's projects like the project Theymos was working on that later was discarded.

You see some of us are pissed because what we are allowed to do here it's not allowed over there even though I don't use it often but I'm not really going to compare it to this forum as time is still there for it to grow into maturity. Copy can never be the original this we must have in mind first.

My major reason I don't use that forum is because I find it difficult to post here and run over there too to post, it's kinda complicated for me additionally I was asked to pay for my new rank as a hero here equivalent over there, I felt no need to pay for the rank so I just left it like that.

[EarnOnVictor]

Altcoinstalks is one of the stupidest forum that I have ever been. The forum is still alive because of the discipline from people on this forum and nothing more. The forum was full of wrong information and dilapidated until this forum banned mixers. Their Karma system is faulty and worst than those social media likes.

Hahaha...what a factual and decisive point.

I wonder why people would even teleport (whatever they call it) from here to there. Loyalty matters! The lack of it was why many people quickly rushed to AltcoinTalks after the mixer's ban here. It's all about the money for them after all. This is why I question the loyalty of some people about Bitcoin too, they mostly don't practice what they preach. It's all fake love.

[lovesmayfamilis]

Altcoinstalks is one of the stupidest forum that I have ever been. The forum is still alive because of the discipline from people on this forum and nothing more. The forum was full of wrong information and dilapidated until this forum banned mixers. Their Karma system is faulty and worst than those social media likes.

Hahaha...what a factual and decisive point.

I wonder why people would even teleport (whatever they call it) from here to there. Loyalty matters! The lack of it was why many people quickly rushed to AltcoinTalks after the mixer's ban here. It's all about the money for them after all. This is why I question the loyalty of some people about Bitcoin too, they mostly don't practice what they preach. It's all fake love.

This happens everywhere and anywhere. Look around; as soon as you start handing out some goodies, a long line of people immediately forms to express their love. Suppose representatives of a neighboring forum now ask to thank them for their merits in a kind review. In that case, many local Bitcoin enthusiasts will begin to assert without a doubt that both forums are equal in importance, forgetting their location. The world is like that; alas, everything is bought and everything is sold.

[Lucius]

Altcoinstalks is one of the stupidest forum that I have ever been. The forum is still alive because of the discipline from people on this forum and nothing more. The forum was full of wrong information and dilapidated until this forum banned mixers. Their Karma system is faulty and worst than those social media likes.

Hahaha...what a factual and decisive point.
I wonder why people would even teleport (whatever they call it) from here to there. Loyalty matters! The lack of it was why many people quickly rushed to AltcoinTalks after the mixer's ban here. It's all about the money for them after all. This is why I question the loyalty of some people about Bitcoin too, they mostly don't practice what they preach. It's all fake love.

Do you think that I or anyone else is disloyal to this forum if I am also a member of another forum? A good number of people who teleported their account to ATT did so because of the opportunity to continue promoting something that we believed in providing privacy and security when it comes to Bitcoin. Since I've been a member of this forum, I haven't spent more than 10% of what I've earned through sig campaigns, and I've given a lot as donations during that time.

You're entitled to your opinion, but talking about everyone being here or there just for the money is not something you can be proud of.

[Alone055]

I wonder why people would even teleport (whatever they call it) from here to there. Loyalty matters! The lack of it was why many people quickly rushed to AltcoinTalks after the mixer's ban here. It's all about the money for them after all. This is why I question the loyalty of some people about Bitcoin too, they mostly don't practice what they preach. It's all fake love.

I wouldn't consider using both forums at once to be disloyal to the one that was being used first, since just because we are also using the other forum, it doesn't mean we have abandoned this one or anything like that, and of course, we know that no other forum can compete with Bitcointalk since it's the forum where Bitcoin was born, basically, and all the big names and important people involved in its development have their digital footprints here, but, that doesn't mean we can't use any other forum for any reason we want. Even if someone does it for earning opportunities, I don't see anything wrong with that. If, for example, you are a campaign manager, and you get an offer to run a campaign on another forum, you will gladly do it because you consider it an opportunity, similarly, if participants join another forum for the same purpose, I don't see anything wrong with that.

When it comes to teleporting the accounts, it's basically a feature that allows you to have the same rank and stuff on the other forum, and it saves you from the hassle of starting from scratch. It's a good feature, I think.

[Btcdeybodi]

I wonder why people would even teleport (whatever they call it) from here to there. Loyalty matters! The lack of it was why many people quickly rushed to AltcoinTalks after the mixer's ban here. It's all about the money for them after all. This is why I question the loyalty of some people about Bitcoin too, they mostly don't practice what they preach. It's all fake love.

Majority of those who teleport their accounts to the Altcoinstalk forum did that just to earn from signature campaigns not necessarily that they are loyal to Altcoinstalk forum. Perhaps, they also earn in Bitcoins there as most of the campaigns makes payment in bitcoins, if they had earn in other coins which is not Bitcoin then we would have questioned their loyalty to Bitcoin. However, it is what it is 

Even in bitcointalk forum here, not everyone are loyal to Bitcoin as some people earns in bitcoins and use it to invest in other coins, that is life, but do we need to care which coins anyone should invest on or be loyal to? Not actually, if they gain from them, good, if they don't, their loss

[CryptSafe]

OP, both platforms can never be compared with each other, as this platform is far advanced than the other platform you have mentioned here. Come to think of it, if Theymos had not placed a ban on mixers, the other platform would not have been able to be this active with daily traffic compared to this platform, and as a matter of fact, members of this platform who migrated are the most active and are contributing their quota to making the platform grow so fast than it was n the past.

OP, I was wondering what made you compared both platforms when we all know the capabilities of each one of them, looking at the fact that you said this is an appreciation thread to Satoshi. Why the comparison?

[Alone055]

OP, both platforms can never be compared with each other, as this platform is far advanced than the other platform you have mentioned here. Come to think of it, if Theymos had not placed a ban on mixers, the other platform would not have been able to be this active with daily traffic compared to this platform, and as a matter of fact, members of this platform who migrated are the most active and are contributing their quota to making the platform grow so fast than it was n the past.

First of all, "migrate" is not the correct word to be used here, because migration means to MOVE from one place to another, and if you can stay at two places at the same time, you didn't basically migrate. Secondly, it's not a comparison thread as I mentioned that quite a few times already, but I just saw a few shortcomings in the other forum, that made me realize how blessed we are in this forum, so I just wanted to express my feelings and appreciate this forum and its admins, that's all.

OP, I was wondering what made you compared both platforms when we all know the capabilities of each one of them, looking at the fact that you said this is an appreciation thread to Satoshi. Why the comparison?

I've already answered this question above.

[Liliana1304]

I have heard of that platform but haven't gotten the courage to register there but now that you've provided this, it has now helped solve the dilemma I was in. You know, you'd begin to appreciate some little things that you took for granted in a particular place, in this case, the forum, when you move some where else and see how they operate.

I'm not surprised that it was because of the fact that mixers were banned here and accepted there that's what boosted their traffic else I don't think they would be that relevant.

[_act_]

Is the reason why you claim that because it was established that the profile you teleported is one of the alts you use on that forum? I'm surprised you wrote hundreds of posts on that same forum before you came to such a conclusion.

Why are you surprised? A forum there is negative Karma but you do not know who gives you. I only compared it with this forum and that is all. The forum is one of the worst forums that I have been.

Do you think that I or anyone else is disloyal to this forum if I am also a member of another forum? A good number of people who teleported their account to ATT did so because of the opportunity to continue promoting something that we believed in providing privacy and security when it comes to Bitcoin. Since I've been a member of this forum, I haven't spent more than 10% of what I've earned through sig campaigns, and I've given a lot as donations during that time.

Most people are very active here and there because of money but many people will not accept until there is no more signature campaigns. That is when we are going to know the true forum users. What that is just there is that as some people look for the money, they learn a lot along.

[Aanuoluwatofunmi]

Bitcointalk set the modality and others follows, you could find out that obviously most of the developments seen from altcoinstalks are ideas seen form bitcointalk and our members suggestions to improve the platform, actually there are few things a may not like about them and that is why you may hardly see some of our members being there, i don't buy the idea of the suggestion form OP, there is a standard form this platform, i think we also have some special ranks like donators and so on.

[libert19]

.. additionally I was asked to pay for my new rank as a hero here equivalent over there, I felt no need to pay for the rank so I just left it like that.

There may have been misunderstanding and you should seek clarification of same, I teleported my rank from here to there, didn't have to pay anything.

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I wonder why people would even teleport (whatever they call it) from here to there. Loyalty matters! The lack of it was why many people quickly rushed to AltcoinTalks after the mixer's ban here. It's all about the money for them after all. This is why I question the loyalty of some people about Bitcoin too, they mostly don't practice what they preach. It's all fake love.

You say this as if BTC don't cost money. I am active on the other forum, why shouldn't I take opportunity if it presents itself to me to collect more BTC?

[Lucius]

Is the reason why you claim that because it was established that the profile you teleported is one of the alts you use on that forum? I'm surprised you wrote hundreds of posts on that same forum before you came to such a conclusion.

Why are you surprised? A forum there is negative Karma but you do not know who gives you. I only compared it with this forum and that is all. The forum is one of the worst forums that I have been.

You're changing the direction of the discussion - what does negative karma have to do with having alt accounts that you should report according to the forum rules? As for your opinion about the forum, it will definitely be relevant if you ever want to come back

Most people are very active here and there because of money but many people will not accept until there is no more signature campaigns. That is when we are going to know the true forum users. What that is just there is that as some people look for the money, they learn a lot along.

Money is a good motivator - but do you think some of us do it just for money? The campaign in which I am currently on ATT pays even 7 times less than it paid on BTT. Real forum users have already proven themselves, and if they made some money along the way, I don't see anything wrong with that.