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June 30, 2025, 09:23:30 AM |
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As an atheist, this sounds weird to me. What those spiritual healers exactly would be healing? And how that differs from psychological treatment? These people need someone to talk to, because they are burdened by their thoughts, and sometimes it just helps to talk. That doesn't need to have anything to do with spirituality.
Atheist only believes in science, which will not make you believe. But I was reading many people's posts and I noticed some come from Asia and Africa as I check their posting history, they also do not believe in it also. I just know that with God, all things are possible. But if everything someone has done is not working, then medical rehabilitation should be done. I have seen people who have said that their addictions have been healed by their fate, even though to outsiders they are far from healed.
Gambling addiction can be healed without any medical rehabilitation if the gambler first accepted that he is addicted and know the cause of the addiction. The cause of the addiction mainly is because they are looking for money and they think they can be earning money from gambling which later become the problem. Second is to fill the gambling time with other activities.
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June 30, 2025, 09:48:57 AM |
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Some people always get this wrong, not everything is relating to a spiritual issue especially gambling, it's more relating to a mental issue than something spiritual for instance you shouldn't be referring an addicted gambler to the church or spiritual home for prayers, rather such cases should be handled by a mental health practitioner, psychologist or the rightful professionals to handle the situation~
Agree. Since addiction is mental issue, it should be handed by psychologist or mental health expert. Visiting spiritual home basically is just a supporting matter to strengthen it. If someone only relies on the spiritual factor, it is unlikely to recover the addiction. I'm a bit surprised that there are people who try to recover the addiction by praying only. In any religion, I'm sure everyone is ordered to do proper efforts to succeed in anything. Praying only isn't a proper way to recover addiction case, visiting psychologist or mental health expert is the right way. The God won't give the health if we do it in the wrong way.  Spirituality with addiction always have different levels because peoples are having stress which bring them on level of lost their mindset then usually having consultation with psychologist and mental health works better but in different regions with them having spiritual consultation also works. In our society currently things are going on lowest levels which are increasing problems due to domestic issues so they are having mostly consultation with spiritual peoples even mostly are not well organized and have any authority but still they are having good reputation and doing their jobs. Gambling always creates problems its usual, but handling of these issues always had problem which needed some good work and assist from family and friends as well for me always having better psychology and mental health works much better.
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Frankolala
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June 30, 2025, 10:03:17 AM |
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Some people always get this wrong, not everything is relating to a spiritual issue especially gambling, it's more relating to a mental issue than something spiritual for instance you shouldn't be referring an addicted gambler to the church or spiritual home for prayers, rather such cases should be handled by a mental health practitioner, psychologist or the rightful professionals to handle the situation~
Agree. Since addiction is mental issue, it should be handed by psychologist or mental health expert. Visiting spiritual home basically is just a supporting matter to strengthen it. If someone only relies on the spiritual factor, it is unlikely to recover the addiction. I'm a bit surprised that there are people who try to recover the addiction by praying only. In any religion, I'm sure everyone is ordered to do proper efforts to succeed in anything. Praying only isn't a proper way to recover addiction case, visiting psychologist or mental health expert is the right way. The God won't give the health if we do it in the wrong way.  There is a say "heaven helps those who help themselves" when you don't take the bold step of getting free from addiction, you will pray till infinity and there will be no positive result. An addict needs to visit a specialist to help him out of addiction and he must also be determined to stop gambling. Otherwise, all efforts will be a waste.
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June 30, 2025, 10:11:33 AM |
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Some people have wrongly termed gambling for what it is not, our individual inability to control and manage how we are gambling does not render gambling a demerit on addiction, same way it is improper to say that gambling is being under a spiritual influence, because it's a physical behavioral attitude we need to develop base on how we are gambling, because how we play bets will determine what we get out from it
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June 30, 2025, 10:27:19 AM |
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Some people always get this wrong, not everything is relating to a spiritual issue especially gambling, it's more relating to a mental issue than something spiritual for instance you shouldn't be referring an addicted gambler to the church or spiritual home for prayers, rather such cases should be handled by a mental health practitioner, psychologist or the rightful professionals to handle the situation, your spiritual leader or teacher is just a religious leader meant to handle spiritual cases and not the right one to handle such cases, I don't know about other societies but I've seen people in my region make such errors and it needs to be addressed.
Your speech is rationally correct, but if you listen to testimonies of exorcists and exorcisms perhaps you would have doubts about this vision of yours. In an interview with Father Gabriele Amorth he explains where and how the devil acts (be careful, I base myself on the interview) I don't want to influence anyone! Basically, according to the famous exorcist, the devil acts on man on his addictions to isolate him and distance him, to divide people, the purpose is precisely to destroy the soul of man. Spiritually, a believer is also influenced by these things, don't you think? Mine is just an observation based on what I have seen and heard, I can't confirm any of this, but if you are curious go and see the various interviews made with Father Gabriele Amorth.
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June 30, 2025, 10:40:26 AM |
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Some people always get this wrong, not everything is relating to a spiritual issue especially gambling, it's more relating to a mental issue than something spiritual for instance you shouldn't be referring an addicted gambler to the church or spiritual home for prayers, rather such cases should be handled by a mental health practitioner, psychologist or the rightful professionals to handle the situation, your spiritual leader or teacher is just a religious leader meant to handle spiritual cases and not the right one to handle such cases, I don't know about other societies but I've seen people in my region make such errors and it needs to be addressed.
Your speech is rationally correct, but if you listen to testimonies of exorcists and exorcisms perhaps you would have doubts about this vision of yours. In an interview with Father Gabriele Amorth he explains where and how the devil acts (be careful, I base myself on the interview) I don't want to influence anyone! Basically, according to the famous exorcist, the devil acts on man on his addictions to isolate him and distance him, to divide people, the purpose is precisely to destroy the soul of man. Spiritually, a believer is also influenced by these things, don't you think? Mine is just an observation based on what I have seen and heard, I can't confirm any of this, but if you are curious go and see the various interviews made with Father Gabriele Amorth. Is that Father from your country? if not what country is he from? Because I have already seen many stories and testimonials of priests from many countries, even countries like Germany, in which they assure demons are real and can get inside of people in order to make their life more miserable. Though, I am rather skeptical a person who is addicted to gambling can get better and ditch gambling after a single or a couple sessions of exorcism. I am not completely closed to such possibility, but it is something I would need to experiment myself in order to be completely convinced there is something more beyond brain chemistry behind addiction to gambling. How knows, if I am proven wrong, then more than one people from this section of the forum may be in need or a exorcism with those priests specialized on it.
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I agree. There are professionals who spend their time studying this, and I believe they should be the ones we should run to whenever we have a gambling problem or a friend of ours wants us to point him in the right direction. It has nothing to do with religion. In fact, there are chances that they will criticize a gambling addict because of his problem. Then, there are the gossipers.
It's better if it is done privately and in secrecy with a professional. It's also to help an addict to keep his confidence in society and not be stepped on because of his problem.
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June 30, 2025, 02:14:40 PM |
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Some people always get this wrong, not everything is relating to a spiritual issue especially gambling, it's more relating to a mental issue than something spiritual for instance you shouldn't be referring an addicted gambler to the church or spiritual home for prayers, rather such cases should be handled by a mental health practitioner, psychologist or the rightful professionals to handle the situation, your spiritual leader or teacher is just a religious leader meant to handle spiritual cases and not the right one to handle such cases, I don't know about other societies but I've seen people in my region make such errors and it needs to be addressed.
You know, even the most pragmatic gambler, when winning big, will admit the possibility that he is not such a loser as everyone else, but special. Believe me, this greatly affects our perception. Once I was given a promo code for an online casino, I decided to play roulette and I bet on the number 12. I won, multiplying the winnings by about 30 times. And inside there was a strange feeling that I hit the mark. It was an absolute coincidence, but my pride did not perceive it, my spirit was so powerfully lifted that I was proud of myself for several days. After all, this is an accident, and nothing more.
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June 30, 2025, 02:15:45 PM |
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I have not seen any case of gambling addiction seen from the angle of being spiritual motivated. It's just like other types of addiction like drugs, alcohol and others. It is best viewed from from the angle of poor mentality than any other thing. It is poor mentality that leads to greed, desperation and all negative things that manifest as gambling addiction.
I guess it all depends on the country you live in and the type of mindset people around have... where I'm from people think that every addiction has some spiritual ties to it, they don't agree to the fact that it's a psychological condition and as a result of this it can affect the behaviour of these gamblers...most People use this as an excuse to keep gambling irresponsibly, addictions are simply self made problems
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First and foremost, how do we even connect gambling addiction to spirituality, this is funny in the first place, so thats to say that some people that gamble may have been controlled or might be under some kind of spiritual influence something like that, I think gambling addiction is an individual habit that may have been influenced by greed that triggered lack of control which leqds to lose chasing, so to me there's nothing spiritual about it,
You are right is not connectable because nobody has practically linked them with fact other than all this assumption we are hearing about it, however i wonder why they only assume it on addicted ones when they are not the only ones in the gambling field, actually if there was any forces in gambling is supposed to affect everybody who is under the umbrella of gambling, so actually addiction is just a results of developing an obsession on something with the potential of getting out of hands that the person cannot control it, meanwhile don't you think that people could be using the spiritual to cover for there mistake?.
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June 30, 2025, 02:52:32 PM |
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In the game we all know that people will always look for ways to find excuses to not recognize mistakes, some will look for their religion others people like psychics, but we must understand that we should not take this game to these instances, everything is a decision, it is randomness and in the end it is luck, those who mix this with religion, Spirituality are within their rights, but it is not something valid that deceives a peso when playing.
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Some people always get this wrong, not everything is relating to a spiritual issue especially gambling, it's more relating to a mental issue than something spiritual for instance you shouldn't be referring an addicted gambler to the church or spiritual home for prayers, rather such cases should be handled by a mental health practitioner, psychologist or the rightful professionals to handle the situation, your spiritual leader or teacher is just a religious leader meant to handle spiritual cases and not the right one to handle such cases, I don't know about other societies but I've seen people in my region make such errors and it needs to be addressed.
A lot depends on a person's religiosity. If a person is truly a believer and religious, then the instructions of a spiritual mentor can help this person in the fight against the emergence of gambling addiction. But since in the modern world most people only think they are religious, it doesn't work. Therefore, a religious leader cannot help them (or rather, they cannot help themselves due to lack of faith). As a result, there is a need for professional medical assistance. In fact, gambling addiction can be overcome without medication or psychiatric help (unlike drug addiction or alcoholism), because the problem is only in the head, only psychological dependence. However, this is just my personal opinion and I do not presume to assert that it is the only true one.
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June 30, 2025, 03:57:50 PM |
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In the game we all know that people will always look for ways to find excuses to not recognize mistakes, some will look for their religion others people like psychics, but we must understand that we should not take this game to these instances, everything is a decision, it is randomness and in the end it is luck, those who mix this with religion, Spirituality are within their rights, but it is not something valid that deceives a peso when playing.
Yeah, it's the other side of it, players also go to suitsayers to hire help in winning a game. And it doesn't work, so it has no means of impacting gambling whether as an addict or not. Although whenever someone is confused about something their best option is the first solution closer to them, in certain part of the world no active health care center is designated for addicts. The only viral counselors available that'll solve relatable emotional problems is the priests.
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June 30, 2025, 03:58:59 PM |
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Some people have wrongly termed gambling for what it is not, our individual inability to control and manage how we are gambling does not render gambling a demerit on addiction, same way it is improper to say that gambling is being under a spiritual influence, because it's a physical behavioral attitude we need to develop base on how we are gambling, because how we play bets will determine what we get out from it
Wright: There are many people who think that once you are addicted to gambling, it is impossible to recover from it, but people say that this is unnecessary. No matter how severely you become addicted to gambling, anyone can recover from it if they want to, and they never have to go to a spiritual leader for that. Most of the ignorant and uncivilized unconscious people think that gambling is spiritually driven and no one can erase it from the heart and if someone becomes addicted then only spiritual power can stop him from gambling. But if someone becomes severely addicted to gambling then if he takes advice from a good psychologist and a good doctor then he will definitely be able to stop himself from gambling. It should be remembered that no spiritual power can in any way stop a person from any serious disease or addiction.
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June 30, 2025, 05:05:57 PM |
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Some people always get this wrong, not everything is relating to a spiritual issue especially gambling, it's more relating to a mental issue than something spiritual for instance you shouldn't be referring an addicted gambler to the church or spiritual home for prayers, rather such cases should be handled by a mental health practitioner, psychologist or the rightful professionals to handle the situation, your spiritual leader or teacher is just a religious leader meant to handle spiritual cases and not the right one to handle such cases, I don't know about other societies but I've seen people in my region make such errors and it needs to be addressed.
In societies where this abnormalities in handling gambling or any addiction issues is been attributed to spiritual attacks or involvements are usually of those underdeveloped societies where there's a large gap in their knowledge and orientation in differentiating psychological problems from the spiritual. I am of the opinion that the government should be arresting those spiritual leaders that don't want to recognize their boundaries because it's the victims that continue to suffer under their umbrella..
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June 30, 2025, 05:37:15 PM |
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Just as a person needs a doctor and medicine for physical health when he is sick, so does a doctor or medicine for mental illness. Gambling is a complete mental addiction. It is mainly caused by problems in the mind and behavior.
Just as the Creator has given diseases, He has also given the means of curing or preventing every disease through man or in any way. Both good and bad paths are open to man. Man chooses the right path with his knowledge, intelligence and consideration, and if he wishes, he can also choose the bad path.
A person addicted to gambling should be taken to a good psychiatrist or a good counselor. A gambler does not have an addiction to gambling in the beginning. He develops an addiction gradually while playing and thus at one stage he does not understand his own good and bad. In this way he gets away from his family and society.
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June 30, 2025, 05:55:35 PM |
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Some people always get this wrong, not everything is relating to a spiritual issue especially gambling, it's more relating to a mental issue than something spiritual for instance you shouldn't be referring an addicted gambler to the church or spiritual home for prayers, rather such cases should be handled by a mental health practitioner, psychologist or the rightful professionals to handle the situation, your spiritual leader or teacher is just a religious leader meant to handle spiritual cases and not the right one to handle such cases, I don't know about other societies but I've seen people in my region make such errors and it needs to be addressed.
In societies where this abnormalities in handling gambling or any addiction issues is been attributed to spiritual attacks or involvements are usually of those underdeveloped societies where there's a large gap in their knowledge and orientation in differentiating psychological problems from the spiritual. I am of the opinion that the government should be arresting those spiritual leaders that don't want to recognize their boundaries because it's the victims that continue to suffer under their umbrella.. It is certainly important that many spiritual leaders, if you can call them that, who will make you believe in something not very normal and unrecognized by society, can probably harm some players and ordinary citizens. I think that many of these people can hypnotize people and convert them to their faith, but the main thing is not even this, but how easily a person as a player can believe in all sorts of miracles. We must learn to be more pragmatic and do exactly those things that help professionals win in the long run.
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To be honest, I don’t understand at all why some people have the idea to connect gambling addiction with spirituality. Gambling addiction, in my opinion, is a mental problem that is a consequence of many defects in worldview, or, simply put, is a manifestation of insufficient intelligence. In addition, emotional immaturity, infantilism, and lack of discipline lead to addiction. Spirituality is a little different. This is when you live with concerns that are not primarily related to material life, when your concerns are related to the desire to develop in the non-material sphere. This could be religion, it could be creativity, but gambling is difficult to include here, although it is also partly a non-material activity.
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Popkon6
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July 01, 2025, 03:35:28 AM |
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Some people always get this wrong, not everything is relating to a spiritual issue especially gambling, it's more relating to a mental issue than something spiritual for instance you shouldn't be referring an addicted gambler to the church or spiritual home for prayers, rather such cases should be handled by a mental health practitioner, psychologist or the rightful professionals to handle the situation, your spiritual leader or teacher is just a religious leader meant to handle spiritual cases and not the right one to handle such cases, I don't know about other societies but I've seen people in my region make such errors and it needs to be addressed.
It has nothing to do with spiritual gambling, rather when a gambler shows signs of addiction, it is only mental stress. His physical problems start to develop due to mental stress, finally he reaches a tragic stage and finally the people of his area neglect him as half crazy. One should never go to a temple or a prayer room to pray for stopping this gambling, gambling is completely prohibited in terms of religion. Gambling addicts can basically stay away from it by giving up gambling with strong willpower, the more we can keep ourselves away from this gambling, the more there will be a chance of getting rid of it. However, many people gamble for fun, which is mainly observed among rich people, but gambling should be done for the purpose of pleasure and not for the purpose of earning money, then the signs of addiction will be less evident.
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Uhwuchukwu53
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July 01, 2025, 03:41:42 AM |
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Though it's unwise for those who perceived it that way considering addiction in the game to be a spiritual thing, it's wrong but I see this as a result of how the society is going with things around them as we in our region believe more of spiritual thing rather than the sorting of reality and scientifically, situation of gambling addiction need no prophet for any one to understand that it's a mental issue but individual perception towards what the faces and believe and approach to issues facing them duffers from reality and ways of hand based on how they perceived it.
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