Is trolling legally permitted on this forum?

[baneveryone]

I visited the "Reputation" board and came across a thread started by a clear troll. After reviewing its thread history, I noticed that it has been trolling for quite some time without facing any consequences. Is trolling allowed and a common occurrence on this forum? I’m not particularly concerned about the answer, as I just want to request that this user be banned until Sun is gone.

I have been taking a stand for my own personal safety. And since universities promote violence against me, I had to also make a stand against universities, and I will continue to stand against evil universities until they fucking apologize. Until they do so, they need to be mocked relentlessly! But the people on this site (and everywhere else) are fucking evil, and they FUCKING HATE ME FOR BRINGING THIS UP! HUMANS ARE EVIL ROTTEN VIOLENCE PROMOTING PIECES OF SHIT WHO DESERVE EXTINCTION FOLLOWED BY ETERNAL DAMNATION!

It is wrong to mock someone who obviously have problems controlling his behavior and his anger on the internet and probably in the real life, though.
We both know he was likely fired from his position at his university because he is supposed to be taking medications to stabilize his mood and his outbursts of anger at so many things and at the same time.

The most disturbing thing about all this situation is how most people would have already forgotten about getting kicked out their job and would have found other one where they feel comfortable and productive, without spending literal years yelling at strangers on the internet so many weird and improper things.

If there is a lesson to learn from all this, it is how important mental healthcare is for people like him and having a doctorate does not mean one is educated.

Hispo is one of the most evil people imaginable. Hispo wants me to take psychoactive medications AND HE IS FUCKING ASSUMING A LOT OF THINGS ABOUT ME JUST TO GASLIGHT ME INTO BELIEVING THAT I WAS WRONG FOR LOOKING OUT FOR MY OWN PERSONAL SAFETY! THAT FUCKER IS THE MOST EVIL THING IMAGINABLE!

I HAVE MADE THE ONLY CRYPTOCURRENCY WITH A MINING ALGORITHM THAT IS DESIGNED TO ADVANCE SCIENCE, AND ALL YOU MOTHERFUCKERS HAVE NOTHING BUT ABSOLUTE HATRED BECAUSE OF THIS! YOU ARE HORRENDOUS PEOPLE! GOD FUCKING HATES YOU!

Regards,

-Joseph Van Name Ph.D.

[Free Market Capitalist]

In theory, someone who trolls is breaking rule 3 of the forum but from what I've heard from the older folks on the site it's been a long time since it was enforced or it's only done in the most exaggerated cases.

Although in this case I think it is simply someone who has mental problems, and it seems that from the forum they are quite lenient with them, as in the case of Polo7 and his multiple alts.

[OcTradism]

There is a rule on trolling so it is not allowed in the forum but it is not a too severe rule violation. Hence an account that has trolling posts likely won't be banned instantly like with plagiarism. Anyway if you see trolling posts, you can do two things: report those posts to forum moderators for deletion; and don't feed the troll.

If you reply to trolling posts, you are feeding it and make trolleys more exciting and have motivation to continue trolling.

[LoyceV]

Although in this case I think it is simply someone who has mental problems

Even though I wouldn't mind seeing people like that banned as this isn't the place to showcase your mental problems,  I kinda appreciate the fact that Bitcointalk freedom of speech, even if the speech is bullshit. Just click Ignore, that's what I did a long time ago.

If you reply to trolling posts, you are feeding it and make trolleys more exciting and have motivation to continue trolling.

That will never end. By the time someone gives up and stops responding, someone else jumps in and responds to his posts again. Even with the best intentions, some users can't be helped.

[NotATether]

The guy controlling the "jvanname" account (and his sockpuppet account, "Joseph Van Name Ph.D.") is clearly insane, so it's probably better to just put them both on Ignore.

[OcTradism]

If you reply to trolling posts, you are feeding it and make trolleys more exciting and have motivation to continue trolling.

That will never end. By the time someone gives up and stops responding, someone else jumps in and responds to his posts again. Even with the best intentions, some users can't be helped.

I know and the forum is big enough to have many users who will ignore or join trolling discussions. I only recommend users to do their actions individually against trollers, and that's all they can do individually. As a community, other forum members must contribute and reduce replies to trolling posts but I agree with you that it is endless. There are always shitposters who don't kind what posts or topics they are replying to. They only care of making as many posts as possible for post quota, trolling or not, it is not their concerns.

[Cryptohygenic]

The user jvanname have not been sounding mentally healthy, I have been reading his threads and his uncivil responses to other users in the forum.
I might not really say that his is violating the forum because here users are allowed to make jerk stories, make us laugh and even make us feel pissed but must not contain violent contents.
So like NotATether has said, kindly put em on ignore if you can't cope with his nonchalant exhibition.

[Btcdeybodi]

jvanname have been a long time troll in this forum right from his early stage in the forum (judging from his post history). Trolling is against the forum rules but i don't know if there is a penalty for such act but if there is, jvanname could have probably gotten a punishment for breaking one of the forum rules before now. From his previous posts that i have come across in the forum, he could be a professor in mathematics as he so claimed and i have met people in real life who are actually professors in mathematics and sometimes these people acts weird, mentally ill and sometimes suffers for amnesia (am not generalizing anyways), hence i am not surprised by jvanname's behavior in the forum.

My advice: If you see any of his post about trolling, just ignore them because if no one engages in his trolling threads he could probably get tired and stop posting but the moment you give his trolling threads attention and start making replies, it even gives him more effrontery to troll. Discard his trolling threads/posts and he will become bored  

[Hispo]

It is very unfortunate there are people who obviously are in need of mental healthcare and yet, they they decide by their own will not to get help and come to place like this to showcase their delusions and problems with little filters.
If I remember correctly, he was already banned once,.but it was rather a short temporary ban.

Being realistic, even if he was banned from this place he could easily create another account to continue posting or move to a different community in order to continue to act out and allow his rage outbursts to be seen for any stranger on the internet.

If we look at all this situation from the humane perspective, it is a sad place to be and I would not wish such situation to anyone, as it seems he does not have anyone who checks on what he does...

[Free Market Capitalist]

Just click Ignore, that's what I did a long time ago.

Me too but I was just replying to OP's question.

[Obim34]

Trolling isn't legal in the forum. Bitcointalk forum has about 745K active profiles according to BPIP, out of this huge numbers, do you expect everyone to act normally? What is not your problem shouldn't get your attention, stay away from thread not to get caught up in the midst of dirty conversations also saving your mental health.

If he receives tag notification from this topic, he will turn here into another den for troll, kindly lock the thread if he comes to save yourself from irrelevant banter.

[philipma1957]

my only negative trust came from him.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust;u=64507

I do not particularly think he is well.

[Findingnemo]

my only negative trust came from him.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust;u=64507

I do not particularly think he is well.

Since the trust feedbacks are not moderated here, there are users who (ab)use the system like that, but one who does will end up in the ~trustlist of (DT1) users eventually those all falls under the untrusted feedbacks. Trolls' posts are not moderated unless it turn out to be threats and they just use the term 'freedom of speech' to say anything against any users.

[mindrust]

Once we set up rules on deciding on who is troll and who is not, given enough time, everybody can be seen as one. The thing is, the admin don't want to engage because no matter how retarded one's ideas are, some people might support him for the sake of supporting.

And if the admin bans the troll, then that act might be seen as a violation of free speech.

Then some people will argue against the ban and that will be seen as trolling as well. Then those supporters will get banned also.

That's what they do in other forums usually and I don't want to visit any forums that behave like that.

I think the current situation is fine. Let the crazy act crazy. Use the ignore button.

[philipma1957]

Once we set up rules on deciding on who is troll and who is not, given enough time, everybody can be seen as one. The thing is, the admin don't want to engage because no matter how retarded one's ideas are, some people might support him for the sake of supporting.

And if the admin bans the troll, then that act might be seen as a violation of free speech.

Then some people will argue against the ban and that will be seen as trolling as well. Then those supporters will get banned also.

That's what they do in other forums usually and I don't want to visit any forums that behave like that.

I think the current situation is fine. Let the crazy act crazy. Use the ignore button.

I live with the negative trust. I did not retaliate and give one back to him as I know what it is to be


suffering from delusions. I was very ill from 1981 to 1985.

[OgNasty]

I think the current situation is fine. Let the crazy act crazy. Use the ignore button.

If only it was that easily solved. I have dozens of negative trust ratings all for make believe reasons from trolls that have teamed up to get into DT. I’ve been doxxed, reported to different government agencies, my house vandalized, my family harassed… Everyone I’ve talked to about it wonders why the Administration here allows this to continue. I hope the forum does something at some point to protect users because the Default Trust system has failed miserably and at some point it crosses into negligence territory.

[Vod]

If only it was that easily solved. I have dozens of negative trust ratings all for make believe reasons from trolls that have teamed up to get into DT. I’ve been doxxed, reported to different government agencies, my house vandalized, my family harassed… Everyone I’ve talked to about it wonders why the Administration here allows this to continue. I hope the forum does something at some point to protect users because the Default Trust system has failed miserably and at some point it crosses into negligence territory.

Why am I still having to defend myself against this clown?  I have never left negative trust for a make believe reason and I have never teamed up with anybody.   My feedback on your profile is valid, as I'm sure all the others are.   If you don't want to be doxxed, don't post videos of your house from your drone.   If you don't want your house vandalized, stop posting pictures of all the btc you scammed.   If you don't want your family harassed, stop being an asshole to everyone.  And finally, if you want to hold Theymos accountable, stop play fighting.

nobody wants to turn their nose up at that money. It is what makes the world go around after all. The mere mention of it makes me think they are just play fighting.

Finally, your approval of DT changes as often as your membership.  

If anything I wrote in those paragraphs are untrue, include it in your sworn defense.

[m2017]

In theory, someone who trolls is breaking rule 3 of the forum but from what I've heard from the older folks on the site it's been a long time since it was enforced or it's only done in the most exaggerated cases.

How to define the line between a joke/sarcasm and trolling?
 

I have been taking a stand for my own personal safety. And since universities promote violence against me, I had to also make a stand against universities, and I will continue to stand against evil universities until they fucking apologize. Until they do so, they need to be mocked relentlessly! But the people on this site (and everywhere else) are fucking evil, and they FUCKING HATE ME FOR BRINGING THIS UP! HUMANS ARE EVIL ROTTEN VIOLENCE PROMOTING PIECES OF SHIT WHO DESERVE EXTINCTION FOLLOWED BY ETERNAL DAMNATION!

In my opinion, this is a direct insult, not trolling, and I believe that such unethical behavior is also unacceptable on the forum.

And it doesn’t matter whether the reason lies in a mental disorder or something else.

[Free Market Capitalist]

In theory, someone who trolls is breaking rule 3 of the forum but from what I've heard from the older folks on the site it's been a long time since it was enforced or it's only done in the most exaggerated cases.

How to define the line between a joke/sarcasm and trolling?
 

I have been taking a stand for my own personal safety. And since universities promote violence against me, I had to also make a stand against universities, and I will continue to stand against evil universities until they fucking apologize. Until they do so, they need to be mocked relentlessly! But the people on this site (and everywhere else) are fucking evil, and they FUCKING HATE ME FOR BRINGING THIS UP! HUMANS ARE EVIL ROTTEN VIOLENCE PROMOTING PIECES OF SHIT WHO DESERVE EXTINCTION FOLLOWED BY ETERNAL DAMNATION!

In my opinion, this is a direct insult, not trolling, and I believe that such unethical behavior is also unacceptable on the forum.

And it doesn’t matter whether the reason lies in a mental disorder or something else.

Well, insults are relatively allowed on the forum:

Q: Someone insulted me. Why aren't you deleting his post/thread?
A: Possible (since we don't have the time or resources to check) insults are also allowed as long as they contain any kind of constructive opinion, info or something else substantial and aren't off-topic. For example, posting something like "you are dumb" will be deleted as it contains no meaningful content. However, if the post is somewhere along the lines of "You are dumb. This is wrong because this website/thread/etc. has explained it's not right", it's in most cases accepted.

If you add to that rule 23 you can understand why such posts are not deleted.

[Asiska02]

my only negative trust came from him.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust;u=64507

I do not particularly think he is well.

He is someone I use to reply to his post and when I made a reply to end the conversation, he keeps quoting me and making me feel my point is baseless and he’s the one that’s actually right. His use of words are also not appealing to me, so I stopped commenting on his topic after also seeing many comments of other users about him having mental health issues.

I forgot about the ignore button, it will fit very well for this user.