45K in debt due to Gambling on Betpanda

[Don Pedro Dinero]

Thank your for trying to encourage me !
I am trying to not gamble again but when thinking of the debt I have created I don’t really know what to do ..
It cannot paid from my salary at all
One month of my stupidity can cause the destroy of my whole life

What you need to do is get into the hands of a psychologist or psychiatrist specialising in addictions. Today.  Also tell people close to you what has happened to you, making it public will make it much more difficult for you to relapse.

Hint: What you say about “trying” not to relapse is a bad mentality.

You've screwed up, big time. You have to take responsibility and make this a before and after in your life but for that you have to put yourself in the hands of professionals, tell people close to you (an anonymous forum on the internet is not enough) and make up your mind that you can never gamble a single penny again.

[traderethereum]

@OP really need to stay away from gambling for some time if not forever and solve his addiction problem. He need to learn self-control and train himself to block his minds thinking about gambling. He should do that before all things disappear from his life.

It need awareness from yourself @OP to solve the problem. If you realize that you have a problem in self-control, you need to figure out how to have a strong self-control. It is not casinos mistake but the problem is in himself which can not control in gambling.

[srddev]

Thank your for trying to encourage me !
I am trying to not gamble again but when thinking of the debt I have created I don’t really know what to do ..
It cannot paid from my salary at all
One month of my stupidity can cause the destroy of my whole life

What you need to do is get into the hands of a psychologist or psychiatrist specialising in addictions. Today.  Also tell people close to you what has happened to you, making it public will make it much more difficult for you to relapse.

Hint: What you say about “trying” not to relapse is a bad mentality.

You've screwed up, big time. You have to take responsibility and make this a before and after in your life but for that you have to put yourself in the hands of professionals, tell people close to you (an anonymous forum on the internet is not enough) and make up your mind that you can never gamble a single penny again.

Thank you for the support !
Yes I understand that normally talk to my nearest persons but if do it , nobody will understand . They will keep accusing me that I lost all of these money
I will not relapse again !
I want only pay back the debt and focus on my work to avoid this happening again

[ayenk130]

The best way to stop gamble is to take a short course in coding to understand that any bet may be cheated even by "provably fair" casinos if you start winning "too much" or "too often". No any psychiatrist needed  

[Japinat]

The best way to stop gamble is to take a short course in coding to understand that any bet may be cheated even by "provably fair" casinos if you start winning "too much" or "too often". No any psychiatrist needed  

I wish we could all believe that, even though there's always a possibility of cheating, we still put our trust in the casinos we’re gambling on. And honestly, they don’t even need to cheat. With the lower RTP (return to player) they set, they already have the edge, and that’s what causes us to lose in the long run.

I’m not an expert in coding, but I do believe that regulated casinos wouldn’t risk cheating just to destroy their reputation. In the end, trust and transparency are what keep their business running.

[Slow death]

Hi to everyone ,
Since 1 year before I was gambling but not a lot money .
The last months I was totally addicted to gambling and lost all of my money on Betpanda and also money that wasn’t mine
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The last month I have lost 45K from money that doesn’t belong to me and I must repay them.
I don’t really know what to do ?
The ideal will from Betpanda to give me all my money on the last account back as they don’t even have limits and other such stuff for addicted users. (But I am sure that this will not gonna happen as this is exactly that they want , addicted users playing more and more and keep loosing )

ADDICTION IS A CHOICE. You chose to gamble because you're addicted to it. I don't think that it's Betpanda's fault to let you create multiple accounts because like what others said, there might be some changes to you like the IP address or something.

 

addiction is a disease

Is addiction a disease?
Yes, addiction is a disease — it’s a chronic condition. The American Society of Addiction Medicine (ASAM) defines addiction as a chronic brain disorder. Addiction doesn’t happen from having a lack of willpower or as a result of making bad decisions. Your brain chemistry changes with addiction.

https://my.clevelandclinic.org/health/diseases/6407-addiction

Anyone who has ever had a relative addicted to something knows very well that addiction is a very complicated disease, that you need to be very patient with the addicted person because they can commit suicide if they are criticized and put under pressure. If OP is really addicted, then he needs medical help and not criticism that will only make him feel bad. The casino is not to blame for anything.


@srddev don't waste time on the internet exposing your problem, if you really want to be cured, seek medical help in real life and then try to solve your financial problems in real life.

[srddev]

The best way to stop gamble is to take a short course in coding to understand that any bet may be cheated even by "provably fair" casinos if you start winning "too much" or "too often". No any psychiatrist needed  

I wish I would able to be that easy .
I wish to never gambled not my own money

[ultrloa]

Thank your for trying to encourage me !
I am trying to not gamble again but when thinking of the debt I have created I don’t really know what to do ..
It cannot paid from my salary at all
One month of my stupidity can cause the destroy of my whole life

What you need to do is get into the hands of a psychologist or psychiatrist specialising in addictions. Today.  Also tell people close to you what has happened to you, making it public will make it much more difficult for you to relapse.

Hint: What you say about “trying” not to relapse is a bad mentality.

You've screwed up, big time. You have to take responsibility and make this a before and after in your life but for that you have to put yourself in the hands of professionals, tell people close to you (an anonymous forum on the internet is not enough) and make up your mind that you can never gamble a single penny again.

This is actually what they need to get professional assessment on their situation. Then got those proper help that they need.

They should eliminate the stigma that psychologist or psychiatrist is for those people who are mentally ill because they won't get anything with that thinking and their situation will just became more worse.

People should not be in denial on their situation since losing such huge amount and seems not to be in control in situation is I think a clear sign of addiction. If they became more cooperative with professionals for sure that they would get an immediate help then fine good relief with what they are currently experiencing.

[srddev]

Hi to everyone ,
Since 1 year before I was gambling but not a lot money .
The last months I was totally addicted to gambling and lost all of my money on Betpanda and also money that wasn’t mine
---
The last month I have lost 45K from money that doesn’t belong to me and I must repay them.
I don’t really know what to do ?
The ideal will from Betpanda to give me all my money on the last account back as they don’t even have limits and other such stuff for addicted users. (But I am sure that this will not gonna happen as this is exactly that they want , addicted users playing more and more and keep loosing )

ADDICTION IS A CHOICE. You chose to gamble because you're addicted to it. I don't think that it's Betpanda's fault to let you create multiple accounts because like what others said, there might be some changes to you like the IP address or something.

 

addiction is a disease

Is addiction a disease?
Yes, addiction is a disease — it’s a chronic condition. The American Society of Addiction Medicine (ASAM) defines addiction as a chronic brain disorder. Addiction doesn’t happen from having a lack of willpower or as a result of making bad decisions. Your brain chemistry changes with addiction.

https://my.clevelandclinic.org/health/diseases/6407-addiction

Anyone who has ever had a relative addicted to something knows very well that addiction is a very complicated disease, that you need to be very patient with the addicted person because they can commit suicide if they are criticized and put under pressure. If OP is really addicted, then he needs medical help and not criticism that will only make him feel bad. The casino is not to blame for anything.


@srddev don't waste time on the internet exposing your problem, if you really want to be cured, seek medical help in real life and then try to solve your financial problems in real life.

Thank you for understating me !
I know that I must seek for help.
I will not play again !

The whole issue is how to find this huge amount of money to pay it.
With my job I will need 4 years spending nothing to be able to gather them

[danherbias07]

So this is how gambling addicts behave.

You already excluded your account from the said online casino, and yet you still made a new one just so you can play again. Does BetPanda have KYC before you deposit or start to play? If they do, then they shouldn't have been letting you go back again if you are using the same identification as your KYC confirmation.
But if you are using another person's information just so you can play back, then this is all your fault. Or, if they don't have any KYC on initial bets and deposits.

[srddev]

So this is how gambling addicts behave.

You already excluded your account from the said online casino, and yet you still made a new one just so you can play again. Does BetPanda have KYC before you deposit or start to play? If they do, then they shouldn't have been letting you go back again if you are using the same identification as your KYC confirmation.
But if you are using another person's information just so you can play back, then this is all your fault. Or, if they don't have any KYC on initial bets and deposits.

They don’t have KYC . Also I don’t use any other person’s account ..
Also the deposits and withdrawals alls made to the same wallet addresses like I had before

[Finestream]

The best way to stop gamble is to take a short course in coding to understand that any bet may be cheated even by "provably fair" casinos if you start winning "too much" or "too often". No any psychiatrist needed  

I wish I would able to be that easy .
I wish to never gambled not my own money

I hear a lot of gamblers saying they will quit gambling after several losses, but they still continue gambling. You don't just wish or give it a try but rather urge yourself to do it.

We all commit mistakes, and what happened to you is perhaps a learning opportunity that gives you a chance to change. Perhaps it was not too late.

I hope this will remind you every time you gamble. Becoming a responsible gambler is considered a big win already. So, make it right and enjoy gambling.  

[LogitechMouse]

Thank you for understating me !
I know that I must seek for help.
I will not play again !

The whole issue is how to find this huge amount of money to pay it.
With my job I will need 4 years spending nothing to be able to gather them

It's good that you did learn your lesson, and it's good that we who shared our opinion here at least helped you at least a little bit and let you realize your mistakes.

As for how will you pay that debt, if you can find another income source where that will help you make more money then you will be able to pay that debt within a shorter amount of time. I would suggest that you tell the whole story to that person who let you borrow $45,000. Take all of the bad words that he will be saying because you deserves it, but in the end, you will be paying that debt. Spend your precious time working to pay that.

Seeking for help might be helpful, but if you can't find another income source, that will help you a little. It's good that you are thinking of not playing again. Like what I'm saying, there's nothing wrong with gambling as long as you're responsible. You aren't and these are the consequences. I hope that you're okay now OP, and plan on what you will do to pay those debt.

[srddev]

Thank you for understating me !
I know that I must seek for help.
I will not play again !

The whole issue is how to find this huge amount of money to pay it.
With my job I will need 4 years spending nothing to be able to gather them

It's good that you did learn your lesson, and it's good that we who shared our opinion here at least helped you at least a little bit and let you realize your mistakes.

As for how will you pay that debt, if you can find another income source where that will help you make more money then you will be able to pay that debt within a shorter amount of time. I would suggest that you tell the whole story to that person who let you borrow $45,000. Take all of the bad words that he will be saying because you deserves it, but in the end, you will be paying that debt. Spend your precious time working to pay that.

Seeking for help might be helpful, but if you can't find another income source, that will help you a little. It's good that you are thinking of not playing again. Like what I'm saying, there's nothing wrong with gambling as long as you're responsible. You aren't and these are the consequences. I hope that you're okay now OP, and plan on what you will do to pay those debt.

I definitely agree with you .
He will become very mad after telling him the whole story and may hit me or pay others to do it .
The sure thing is that I did my lesson but with a very bad way
I prefer to have did my lesson with my money and not with someone else’s money

[arabspaceship123]

You've accepted it's your fault so now you'll have to forget what happened. It's better if you're thinking how to give back $45k to ppl who've trusted you to keep their money safe. I hope you won't gamble again in your life & pay back $45k.

They won't pay you $45k because they won't say they're responsible. It's true they could've stopped you because they knew your ip address. If you'd won they wouldn't pay because you had many accounts so they're responsible but won't help you.

It's a sad story. You've created accounts to gamble & lost $45k which didn't belong to you. Why did you keep $45k money which belonged to other ppl ?

Yes , the fault is all mine . I shouldn’t keep these money.
I thought that with a few high spins may win some money and be able to keep them but after loosing and trying to recover the losses things go worst of-course

[srddev]

You've accepted it's your fault so now you'll have to forget what happened. It's better if you're thinking how to give back $45k to ppl who've trusted you to keep their money safe. I hope you won't gamble again in your life & pay back $45k.

They won't pay you $45k because they won't say they're responsible. It's true they could've stopped you because they knew your ip address. If you'd won they wouldn't pay because you had many accounts so they're responsible but won't help you.

It's a sad story. You've created accounts to gamble & lost $45k which didn't belong to you. Why did you keep $45k money which belonged to other ppl ?

Yes , the fault is all mine . I shouldn’t keep these money.
I thought that with a few high spins may win some money and be able to keep them but after loosing and trying to recover the losses things go worst of-course

Thank you for your wishes !
I will definitely don’t gamble again as only worst can become .
The only thing I have in mind is how to repay this huge amount , but truly I can’t figure out a way to do it .i can’t even get a loan from the bank to repay this amount (as my father while died left the family with 200k in debts to banks )

[ajanwalker]

You must be joking. I don't quite understand how the gambling site owes you money.

Or did you gamble with someone else's money and lose and now you want the money you lost from Betpanda?
The other thing is, if you know you are addicted, go and get treatment. Otherwise, when you find money, you will gamble again and experience other victimizations.

[Lanatsa]

Hi to everyone ,
Since 1 year before I was gambling but not a lot money .
The last months I was totally addicted to gambling and lost all of my money on Betpanda and also money that wasn’t mine .
I have created also 3 accounts on Betpanda because I was requesting a self excluding and after some period I was creating a new account and started playing again normally .
Betpanda should normally not allowing me to play again as I am the same user (must had more security features to not allow me as I was self excluded due to gambling addiction )

The last month I have lost 45K from money that doesn’t belong to me and I must repay them.
I don’t really know what to do ?
The ideal will from Betpanda to give me all my money on the last account back as they don’t even have limits and other such stuff for addicted users. (But I am sure that this will not gonna happen as this is exactly that they want , addicted users playing more and more and keep loosing )

No matter how many self exclusions that would a certain site would be that implementing on which everything would be that useless on which specially if you are someone who do keep on resisting on playing even if  you do say into yourself that you should be that stopping or quitting because you have noticed out that you are already addicted into it. The primary mistake or common problem for most gamblers is that once they do get addicted then it would be that so hard for them to get out or would be completely stopping specially if their mindset and their emotions has been attached into it. You would be always thinking on how you would be that making money with gambling and the worst thing on here is that you do made out some decisions on taking up some loan or making use of the money on which isnt yours. You are the ones who do dig on your own grave on which it will be that so hard to face up these kind of problem specially if you do lack that self control and moderation.

You would be having that very huge debt if you wont be having that control and thats why you should be that making that kind of rethinking about on spending up money. If you do take up some loan then make it sure that you would be able to repay it out because once you would be that become irresponsible then you would be facing up that very huge problem on which it would be causing up that kind of potential problem in against with those people whom you do borrow or make use of the funds on which it shouldnt be spend up on the first place. There are just that those times that you do become that too positive but ending up on having those kind of problems just because of having that irresponsible actions because you've been that getting controlled with your greed. Its one of the most common reason on why gambling business is soo profitable into its owners just because of peoples main behavior on which they cant just that be able to resist temptation to play even more specially if they are already that addicted with it.

[aioc]

Yes , I gambled and I totally lost control . But I am mentioning also they betpanda must had already some
Mechanism to block duplicate accounts , through browser , IPs , unique identifiers. There are multiple
Ways to detect it (if you want of course ) . But also there are no gambling limits on Betpanda.(you cannot set your limits to stay safe )

This is a casino; it’s not there to protect you. So when playing, you must know how to protect yourself from becoming addicted to gambling. Start and end with you; it’s a personal quest to be a responsible gambler.
Since you admitted to gambling with your loan, it’s your responsibility to repay your loan and refrain from playing for some time until you have paid off your debt and rehabilitated yourself so that you can return as a responsible gambler.

[srddev]

You must be joking. I don't quite understand how the gambling site owes you money.

Or did you gamble with someone else's money and lose and now you want the money you lost from Betpanda?
The other thing is, if you know you are addicted, go and get treatment. Otherwise, when you find money, you will gamble again and experience other victimizations.

I never told that BetPanda owes me money .
I will definitely get a treatment as I needed