STOP using AML Blockhair explorer!

[dkbit98]

Blockchair.com explorer quietly started adding AML risk score and AML analysis for all bitcoin transactions and addresses without asking users!
They are not asking for any payments right now, but everyone is paying with exposing all addresses, transactions and ip addresses.
If you care at all about your privacy you should stop using this bitcoin explorer asap, especially with clearnet.
They are now promoting AML nonsense with their partners and this can only hurt everyone in the long run.

[BitcoinGirl.Club]

These tools are useful and sometimes it costs money. So having free information was not bad if this was only about information instead of encouraging to report addresses and help those companies to build their database. I wonder how much they are getting paid from these AML Risk Scorers and AML Analysis agencies.

[Upgrade00]

Thanks for the heads up
I used to use blockchair a lot sometime back, I considered them to be a better alternative to blockchain.com, but then I discovered mempool.space and have been using that most of the time. I only visit blockchair when I want to search outside the Bitcoin network, I'll need to find an alternative for that now

It's sad to see more privacy inclined services start to implement tracking and promote the idea that Bitcoin can get tainted.

[Oshosondy]

You dislike 1xbit on this forum because you know how it scammed people. Blockchair has been advertising 1xbit since many years ago and I have stopped using the site.

I visited the site today just now and I was not disappointed that the explorer is still advertising the scam gambling site.






Also you can see how malicious the site is, just because it wants to advertise those gambling sites. Get 8.75 BTC is obviously a lie to let people join 1xbit.


See other lies:



...and win up to 100 ETH. Obviously another lie.

I used to use blockchair a lot sometime back, I considered them to be a better alternative to blockchain.com, but then I discovered mempool.space and have been using that most of the time. I only visit blockchair when I want to search outside the Bitcoin network, I'll need to find an alternative for that now

That was then, https://www.blockchain.com/explorer later upgraded and have the features that made people on this forum left it for blockchair. I prefer https://www.blockchain.com/explorer now. But if it is about wallet, avoid Blockchain.com because it is close source.

[bitmover]

These tools are useful and sometimes it costs money. So having free information was not bad if this was only about information instead of encouraging to report addresses and help those companies to build their database. I wonder how much they are getting paid from these AML Risk Scorers and AML Analysis agencies.

I agree. These services are pretty useful.

I have a few addresses which I want to see the AML score. I am trying to sell/mix the lowest scores first, as things may become worse in the future.

I agree that all those things are an attack to bitcoin... But I need to be safe with my money.

Even using BISQ is risky. Because when we use BISQ we expose our identity to the buyers, and if they have problems with the AML of those addresses they can just come after me. So I don't use low AML coins (like the ones from eXch) in services like bisq.

[BitMaxz]

Actually, we are accessing most of the block explorers out there they are not even asking about cookies if we allow it.
So I don't see a difference in using Mempool.space and Blockchair. Because all our data are recorded including cookies, IP and PC information, without asking the users. Anytime they can use it to monitor and check the AML and analyze them using the gather data from your PC.


I can't seems to find AML analysis dApp on the blockchair. The only thing that I could find is the privacy meter at the bottom when checking a transaction ID.
Well, I don't use Blockchair anymore; I only use them to take some few transactions and filter out.

When checking their HTML and the codes, it looks like it's just a widget of dApp gallery; it's not actually own by Blockchair; they just embedded this dApp widget just for the design.

Well, we can use a VPN and use VirtualBox to make a virtual PC with VPN when checking any of these sites to hide our identity.

[PX-Z]

Actually, we are accessing most of the block explorers out there they are not even asking about cookies if we allow it.
So I don't see a difference in using Mempool.space and Blockchair. Because all our data are recorded including cookies, IP and PC information, without asking the users. Anytime they can use it to monitor and check the AML and analyze them using the gather data from your PC.

Probably this AML analyzer will do get more info other than ip address and cookies, like wallet address, location/country from your ip, etc.

The showing of the widget is more like a partnership and ad for the AML analyzer, they will at least pay Blockchair for showing their site widget there, or depends on the deal.

If this is an issue to most, using VPN accessing the site will be a big help.

[bitbollo]

I have found those tools (but even others offered from other blockchain like the privacy score) completely useless.
Like the "warnings"... completely random / baseless highlights, not based on "nothing".
Because I have seen transaction from address directly associated to regular EU exchanges with "high" risk score...
I don't know if these "free test" are really useful at this point...

[BitMaxz]

Probably this AML analyzer will do get more info other than ip address and cookies, like wallet address, location/country from your ip, etc.

The showing of the widget is more like a partnership and ad for the AML analyzer, they will at least pay Blockchair for showing their site widget there, or depends on the deal.

If this is an issue to most, using VPN accessing the site will be a big help.

I don't know if it's paid widgets, but it looks like you are right because I've checked several transactions using different browsers, VPNs, and devices. The result under that dApp seems similar whatever you hide.
It looks like it's just a ads promoting their service on blockchair because the result is stable and when you click that box it will redirect you to their main page.

Anyway, I found the two widgets when checking addresses. It only shows on that page, but for the transaction, these two widgets are gone and replaced by the privacy-o-meter.

[nc50lc]

If you care at all about your privacy you should stop using this bitcoin explorer asap, especially with clearnet.

This is a great advice, no one should touch their clearnet website even with a Tor Browser.
There's still privacy risk with bad Tor exit nodes.

I agree that all those things are an attack to bitcoin... But I need to be safe with my money.

I'm also actually considering using this feature of their blockexplorer since I've been getting some UTXO from various sources with unknown origins that I've been getting "hits" on the exchange where I trade. (3x already this past three months)
Having a free service that can assess their so-called "risk score" should be useful for keeping some UTXO from being spent to platforms where 'taint' is a thing.

But I strictly won't be using theirs until they provide an '.onion' url.

[OmegaStarScream]

I just tried an address, and the results were completely different. One returned low risk, while the other was medium (almost high) risk. I would also be very interested in knowing what is the returned results for people who actively use mixers or non KYC platforms.

[NotATether]

What if I made a checker that basically scrapes blockchair with a bunch of proxies and IP addresses in order to throw them off?

I just tried an address, and the results were completely different. One returned low risk, while the other was medium (almost high) risk. I would also be very interested in knowing what is the returned results for people who actively use mixers or non KYC platforms.

The most frustrating part had to be that each exchange uses a different risk scoring company, so even coins that are accepted on one exchange my not be accepted on another.

[ABCbits]

I haven't used Blockchair in some time, since mempool.space is more convenient option. It seems many things have changed, including AI/chatbot addition, more ads and news aggregator. But i was curious about this feature and found 2 service show very different score.


Source: https://blockchair.com/bitcoin/address/bc1qmah6j6rl5lcnxev7ty7w20jgwd5hcg8hnht8sn

While they still have detailed filter for TX, block and UTXO, i would avoid this website since those changes also make the website looks cluttered and took more time to load compared with other explorer.

[OmegaStarScream]

The most frustrating part had to be that ETH exchange uses a different risk scoring company, so even coins that are accepted on one exchange my not be accepted on another.

That's right, and by looking at both sites, I don't really see any big exchanges using them. Everyone seems to be using either ChainAnalysis KYT or Elliptic's Navigator, so I'm not sure how useful these numbers they're showing actually are, especially if they're not going to provide more details to understand why an address has such a score.

[NotATether]

That's right, and by looking at both sites, I don't really see any big exchanges using them. Everyone seems to be using either ChainAnalysis KYT or Elliptic's Navigator, so I'm not sure how useful these numbers they're showing actually are, especially if they're not going to provide more details to understand why an address has such a score.

Generally speaking, they don't like to tell people their exact reason why they classify an address in a particular way, because they claim that it will help people game the system.

Well I say that if you don't even know what makes their coins dirty (besides keeping your coins on exchanges [LOL]), then how are people supposed to stay compliant on their platform?

[Ultegra134]

I've been using the Blockchair explorer for quite a few years with no issues whatsoever, because my signature campaign manager was using it, and decided to stick with it because I find it more convenient than Blockchaib.com. I noticed the AML analyzer today and didn't bother with it too much. What caught my attention is that we all share the same 21% score, is it a coincidence? What purpose does the AML analysis serve and why is the OP portraying it as a bad thing?

[examplens]

I just tried an address, and the results were completely different. One returned low risk, while the other was medium (almost high) risk. I would also be very interested in knowing what is the returned results for people who actively use mixers or non KYC platforms.

It doesn't matter what risk score you received, but what score was calculated by the service you are sending coins to.

Mixers like Mixtum give a very low risk score of 5-20%
At the same time, funds from no-KYC exchanges are often classified as medium risk because they are recognized as originating from an unlicensed exchange. Although traditional CEX doesn't pose a problem with receiving it. At least I haven't had such an experience.

[bitmover]

I haven't used Blockchair in some time, since mempool.space is more convenient option. It seems many things have changed, including AI/chatbot addition, more ads and news aggregator. But i was curious about this feature and found 2 service show very different score.


Source: https://blockchair.com/bitcoin/address/bc1qmah6j6rl5lcnxev7ty7w20jgwd5hcg8hnht8sn

While they still have detailed filter for TX, block and UTXO, i would avoid this website since those changes also make the website looks cluttered and took more time to load compared with other explorer.

It is good to see two services. It shows how these things make no real sense...

I even saw High risk in both services in some old addresses that I received coins from Chipmixer and sinbad (zero balance now anyway).

[Trêvoid]

I keep getting an "Onion site not found" error whenever I try to access their site using Tor. Is anyone else experiencing the same issue?

After several attempts, it finally went through.

One of our customer btc coin that sent to us  



100% high risk by AMLCrypto.io versus 68% medium risk by MatchSystems

i believe each provider designs and applies their risk models and data sources different and not same.

[JeromeTash]

I stopped using it a long time ago when they made a total redesign of their website and made it look too noisy and crowded. You literally now have to look so hard around the page to see what you want.

At the moment mempool.space is one of my favourites