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September 20, 2025, 03:04:26 AM
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People should not think about that its useless its because they are earning now on Bitcoin. Since earning here might be temporary for some people since we don't know what's going to happen in future since everything in this space is unstable. If it happens that they lose this earning option there's huge chance that they get broke and struggle to find job outside to sustain their daily needs.

So while they are young and capable finishing college should be their main priority and target to finish their degree to get more better future. Don't risk everything on single option only if they have choice to choose both.
Education isn't just a path to financial well-being; it's also considered essential for gaining knowledge. Anyone can earn money even without a higher education, but education is considered essential as a step toward achieving the best academic and formal skills. If the opportunity to complete education exists, it's best to do so, especially if they're still young and productive, as education is crucial for individuals' future lives.

Education doesn't guarantee wealth, as the essence of education isn't about wealth. This is a common misconception among many, who believe that higher education will lead to wealth. However, the essence of education isn't about achieving wealth, but rather about the value of acquiring knowledge in general.


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September 20, 2025, 04:57:53 AM
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Depends on where you live.

If the jobs vacancy require degree, pretty sure university degree is important.

If you live in a country who choose experience over degree and other theory thing, university degree isn't important anymore.

Many people that I met usually say this to me "the most important thing of school is you can make friends and relationship, they will help you in the future". So, I think university is important for the social benefit than the thing you learn since you can learn in work.
Yes, it is true that in many cases, depending on the location, a university degree is required to get a job there. In some places, if you have good skills, you will get a good job. But in some locations, you will need a university degree to get a good job. Apart from this, there are some professions like doctors, engineers, lawyers, magistrates, they definitely need an institutional degree as a certificate of validity of their skills. However, for those jobs for which a degree is not required, you can get hired without a degree, but a degree is required to maintain formalities.

In addition to depending on region and location, whether a degree is an entry standard also depends on the profession and field. But from my observation, most of them require degrees, only a few do not require degrees and focus more on skills.

In recent years, only the IT industry has reduced its university degree requirements to attract more talent and focus on practical skills. Meanwhile, for professions such as pharmacists, doctors, lawyers or working in government agencies, a degree is always a top priority no matter what country you are in.

In general, outside of the IT field, other professions still value degrees, especially when applying for senior positions. So, degrees are still important.

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September 20, 2025, 12:56:23 PM
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Yes, I agree with your It has became a reality that education doesn't matter in present time. Degrees are not confirmation of a strong earning or any resource which will support us. The poor people have dreams that their children will get education and oke day they will be in a good profession but it has really became a dream. They spend their money on education and degrees which are not even capable of providing them even a handsome salary. At this point their expectations are ruined and they blame their children for this. But they have to understand that its not their fault its the governance and their policies which are making poor people more people and strong are becoming more stronger. If we should focus on skills which can help us getting real results.

Education and degrees are two different things, don't confuse and think of them as one. I agree that if you don't have a degree, you still have a chance to succeed and become rich. But I bet if you are uneducated or called illiterate, you have no chance of becoming rich. Education is very important and is the only key that can help us change our lives.

But that doesn't mean degrees don't matter. Especially for those who come from difficult backgrounds, have no capital to start a business, no mentors or backers, education and degrees can be considered the best path for them.

Having skills is good because it will help us get a job quickly, but if our ambition is to become a director, department head or CEO. Skills are not enough.

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September 20, 2025, 04:54:19 PM
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Where I come from, a university degree is no longer worthy of it. I said this because after spending years in the university, someone will end up becoming jobless or learning a skill after spending money and years in the university.

What is the essence of becoming a graduate if some graduates can work for an illiterate for minor pay that couldn't feed them and their family for a complete month? Their next month's work is not even guaranteed. They can be sacked at any time when they least expect it

I think the mindset of people towards having a university degree is changing as most people prefer learning a skill to be self-made, rather than becoming a graduate to later learning a skill or business. That no longer makes sense, as it would be ideal to learn a skill first or to combine both (learning a skill and going to university) as the case may be.

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September 20, 2025, 05:38:34 PM
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People should not think about that its useless its because they are earning now on Bitcoin. Since earning here might be temporary for some people since we don't know what's going to happen in future since everything in this space is unstable. If it happens that they lose this earning option there's huge chance that they get broke and struggle to find job outside to sustain their daily needs.

So while they are young and capable finishing college should be their main priority and target to finish their degree to get more better future. Don't risk everything on single option only if they have choice to choose both.
Education isn't just a path to financial well-being; it's also considered essential for gaining knowledge. Anyone can earn money even without a higher education, but education is considered essential as a step toward achieving the best academic and formal skills. If the opportunity to complete education exists, it's best to do so, especially if they're still young and productive, as education is crucial for individuals' future lives.

Education doesn't guarantee wealth, as the essence of education isn't about wealth. This is a common misconception among many, who believe that higher education will lead to wealth. However, the essence of education isn't about achieving wealth, but rather about the value of acquiring knowledge in general.

While your arguments seems very reasonable but in our society people do not go to school or colleges to gain education for the purpose of getting knowledge but the main motive is to get educated to get high marks, good degrees and then eventually get good jobs.

I understand that it is all misconception but no one understand or want to know the reality. It is the skills that give you a good job and not just a degree which is a piece of paper with no experience behind.

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September 20, 2025, 06:50:49 PM
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Depends on where you live.

If the jobs vacancy require degree, pretty sure university degree is important.

If you live in a country who choose experience over degree and other theory thing, university degree isn't important anymore.

Many people that I met usually say this to me "the most important thing of school is you can make friends and relationship, they will help you in the future". So, I think university is important for the social benefit than the thing you learn since you can learn in work.
Yes, it is true that in many cases, depending on the location, a university degree is required to get a job there. In some places, if you have good skills, you will get a good job. But in some locations, you will need a university degree to get a good job. Apart from this, there are some professions like doctors, engineers, lawyers, magistrates, they definitely need an institutional degree as a certificate of validity of their skills. However, for those jobs for which a degree is not required, you can get hired without a degree, but a degree is required to maintain formalities.

In addition to depending on region and location, whether a degree is an entry standard also depends on the profession and field. But from my observation, most of them require degrees, only a few do not require degrees and focus more on skills.

In recent years, only the IT industry has reduced its university degree requirements to attract more talent and focus on practical skills. Meanwhile, for professions such as pharmacists, doctors, lawyers or working in government agencies, a degree is always a top priority no matter what country you are in.

In general, outside of the IT field, other professions still value degrees, especially when applying for senior positions. So, degrees are still important.
 
Good one. Actually, it depends on where you are. Like in our community, ever since I was born, I've noticed that once you haven't acquired a degree, they will look down on you, or if you didn't even have the opportunity to attend even just a college to acquire a diploma, you don't even have just a common level in my community.

So, nowadays, there are many degree holders on the ground who have not secured any job yet. Too many degrees on the ground make some of them even go for low-paying jobs. Afterwards, people are now testifying that it's not all about going to school alone; rather, learn a skill also, because when you go to school and become a graduate and return back home, you can continue with your skills at hand before securing a white-collar job.

However, I agree with you in this aspect; some courses, like professional courses, needed to go higher because they're dealing with human life.
In addition, going to school or acquiring a degree doesn't guarantee you will get a job. Go to school and also learn a skill; the two are useful in every community.
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Having a degree won't get you anything unless you have the right skillset to do the actual job. Where I come from, we have hundreds of thousands of degree holders but still unemployed. Why? you may ask!!! Because they lack the skills or the experience. The current education system in my country is broken imo. Mostly we are forced to memorise more bookish knowledge instead of developing real skills, where we should have been spending more time here acquiring experiences.! Where developing skillssets should be the main priority, we prioritize our CGPA grade here. Thats the real issue. If that can't be solved, then the degree is nothing but a piece of useless paper. Of course, it varies from place to place, I was just sharing the situation of my place.

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September 20, 2025, 10:12:08 PM
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Has anyone else noticed that these days, having a university degree does not seem to guarantee a good job anymore? In the US, more than 40% of new graduates are working in jobs that don’t even need a degree! In the UK and Canada, youth unemployment is even higher, and entry-level jobs are much harder to get. Now, for each job, there are more than 100 people applying

A lot of people blame technology (especially AI, robots and automation) for stealing jobs. But the truth is more complicated. Companies are using AI to get rid of simple tasks, yes, but they’re also sending jobs to cheaper countries. And when there are jobs, many companies do not care about your university name anymore. They want to see if you really have the skills or special training for that job. That means people have to pay even more to get extra “certificates” after graduating

Meanwhile, graduates are stuck with debt and stress. Many young people feel lost, frustrated, and even angry, like society promised them something it can’t deliver. In the past, too many frustrated young people has led to big changes. Sometimes for the better, sometimes not. Do you think the old way of working (one job, one company, climbing step by step) is over? Now, I see many young people having several jobs, working on short projects, or even starting small businesses on the side. In a recent report, more than half of workers noticed more people working two or more jobs

Is university still worth it today? Are “extra skills” and certificates just another money-making trick? Has anyone here found success without a degree, or by learning something new outside of school? Is this the start of a new way of working, or just a big mess?
It really rains everywhere on earth, I thought we are the only ones experiencing unemployment in my country. Most of our youths don't fancy university decree anymore and I don't blame them. Going to the university doesn't even give you the chance or freedom to work full time and prepare for life after school and yet when you are done with school you still get to struggle and start life from the bottom, in this era of digital age, having a skill related to the internet is way more important because right now you don't need a university certificate to work for some certain companies that operates mostly on the internet but I still think that if it's possible to have a university certificate and still have a digital skill then you should do it.

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September 21, 2025, 09:44:45 PM
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From my experience, degree from top tier university still worth it, but other than that I can hardly see the worth. However what you need to seek in university is not the degree, it's just piece of paper. Instead you need to seek for connection and networking.

Wise men said your network is your net worth and that's true. You will have significantly bigger chance of getting employed if you have good networking doesn't matter if you have degree or not.

The endpoint to this question differs purposefully and my feedback is that it depends on what you want to do,where you are,and how you define the degree worth.A degree is worth something,but it’s not everything anymore.If Your career line demands it,it's relevant otherwise,employers now look more at skills,portfolios,and experience than just paper qualifications.

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Usually in my country there is a common slogans that keeps spreading around that "School is a scam", I must say the truth, university degree aren't scam and sincerely they are worth it. Why because school today are one way of giving people formal education which involves all part of our life, and of course not everyone who must work in a white scholar job rather some people over there are meant to be an employer of Labor.

The slogan you said "school is a scam" to some it is while to some it isn't and there's a reason why, depending on the country we find ourselves where no matter how hard you try things won't work out the way you imagine it to be. We have graduates that are qualified to be in positions that suit what they studied in school but they are doing sometimes outside from what they studied meanwhile they have the degrees, certificates and all that but those positions are being occupied by people who are not qualified to be there [it shows that the degrees are worthless] and you say the slogan doesn't say much about education?
Some persons are qualified to do things I mean important things to help the economy if a given country grow but because of how bad the government have turned the education sector people just gave up a long time ago and say school is a scam like is not what they say it is, like when I was little they use to say if we go to school we'd become lawyers, doctors, teachers and e.t.c but it doesn't happen that way, that's why that slogan has to stay in the mouth of many.

 
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Having a degree won't get you anything unless you have the right skillset to do the actual job. Where I come from, we have hundreds of thousands of degree holders but still unemployed. Why? you may ask!!! Because they lack the skills or the experience. The current education system in my country is broken imo. Mostly we are forced to memorise more bookish knowledge instead of developing real skills, where we should have been spending more time here acquiring experiences.! Where developing skillssets should be the main priority, we prioritize our CGPA grade here. Thats the real issue. If that can't be solved, then the degree is nothing but a piece of useless paper. Of course, it varies from place to place, I was just sharing the situation of my place.

Part of the fault lies with the education system in your country, where teachers focus too much on achievement without paying attention to the quality of education. The rest is the fault of those students, because they also do not take their studies seriously. Most students today lack the will to study and are not serious. It seems like they go to college just to get by and are willing to use any tactics to obtain a degree instead of seriously improving their knowledge.


I believe if you do some surveys with hundreds of thousands of students in your country. Not many people will have the knowledge and expertise to match the degrees they possess. They are just empty headed and have the illusion that just having a degree will allow them to easily get a high paying job.

Students today have degrees but lack thinking and mindset, because if they have thinking and desire, it is not too difficult to cultivate skills and experience.

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September 22, 2025, 06:55:15 AM
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Holistically yes, university degree still worth more, we can't undermine the important of a university degree in our society, university shapes the mind and attitude of the students towards the challenges of the society and how to tackle it. It's a wider knowledge institution and it more beneficial to the development of the society than the students.  The reason people are doubting the importance of university degree it's because they went to school to get a degree to seek for job, that's their poor mindset, they forgot that the world is evolving and things that used to be had been modernized. Before after university, jobs are waiting for graduates everywhere. It was a policy of government to help people go to the university to get knowledge and how they can add value to the society. As of today government has achieved their aims. We have more graduates in the society today, but with less impact to the society because they still hope for government to provide job for them.

Government has so many problems to solve, and job creation is still the responsibility of the government, but as graduate in this big 2025, where we have a lot of jobs on the Internet today and you're still Hoping on government to help you get a job, you might await in vein. In the the university we were taught about high rate of unemployed graduates in the society and how to self employed by having a skill in other areas of endeavor.  The university degree prepared you for the danger ahead and how to navigate through it. So it's still very necessary regardless of it shortcomings.

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Is university still worth it today? Are “extra skills” and certificates just another money-making trick? Has anyone here found success without a degree, or by learning something new outside of school? Is this the start of a new way of working, or just a big mess?
The number of people worldwide is increasing due to which there is a shortage of jobs. Earlier, common people used to get job opportunities after earning their degrees from the university but now there is no opportunity to get employment just by having a degree. Nowadays, to get a job, along with academic education, it is necessary to have skills. In some cases, it has been seen that only those who have good skills are being given job opportunities. Those who are trying to get a job only with a university degree must take skill-based education otherwise they will fall behind.

Since a large part of the world is still living an unemployed life, they definitely need technical education for their careers without wasting time. Without technical education, it is difficult to ever succeed in their careers.
Don't be mistaken many uneducated people out there are far more successful than those with higher education. Education is important, but it's not the measure of success. It is true that most people are fixated on just one point in looking for money, namely looking for work in a company. In fact, there are so many people who are successful without working with other people. There's nothing wrong with copying their methods. In fact, many people have become successful by copying or imitating them. We should actually continue to learn from every mistake we make. By introspecting ourselves, we can see what weaknesses we have, so we can continue to hone the skills we have.

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The endpoint to this question differs purposefully and my feedback is that it depends on what you want to do,where you are,and how you define the degree worth.A degree is worth something,but it’s not everything anymore.If Your career line demands it,it's relevant otherwise,employers now look more at skills,portfolios,and experience than just paper qualifications.

We must face reality. If my organization needs an employee, I will appoint someone who can easily understand the job and work accordingly. I will not appoint a new person by teaching someone the job because in that case I will lose time and money. That is why it is necessary to make myself skilled. Skills in those areas are much more necessary than some academic education.

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One relatable aspect is the difference between a salary and profit. The University degree makes you mostly confined to being employable. Entrepreneurship has taken over, billionaires become billionaires even before earning a degree.
Digitalization and technology has made it possible to acquire various skills at the comfort of your home.
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Unemployment rates are increasing worldwide, and every year many young people are unable to enter the job market after earning a degree from a university. Moreover, companies generally give preference to those with practical experience over those with a degree. So, if even if you have a bachelor's and master's degree from a university, if you don't give priority to them in the job market and give priority to employees without a degree, then what is the benefit of earning a degree from a university? If this continues, people will gradually become discouraged from pursuing a PhD in university and higher education.
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Education and degrees are two different things, don't confuse and think of them as one. I agree that if you don't have a degree, you still have a chance to succeed and become rich. But I bet if you are uneducated or called illiterate, you have no chance of becoming rich. Education is very important and is the only key that can help us change our lives.

But that doesn't mean degrees don't matter. Especially for those who come from difficult backgrounds, have no capital to start a business, no mentors or backers, education and degrees can be considered the best path for them.

Having skills is good because it will help us get a job quickly, but if our ambition is to become a director, department head or CEO. Skills are not enough.

To me basic education is essential for everyone and the one who can afford must go for university degree because those who have basic university degree learn the art of how to mould themselves in changing world. Like when I was in university there was no Bitcoin nor anything like DevOps. These technologies evolve with time and since I have basic understanding of crypto, system administration and programming, I was able to develop some expertise in these two fields.

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The endpoint to this question differs purposefully and my feedback is that it depends on what you want to do,where you are,and how you define the degree worth.A degree is worth something,but it’s not everything anymore.If Your career line demands it,it's relevant otherwise,employers now look more at skills,portfolios,and experience than just paper qualifications.

We must face reality. If my organization needs an employee, I will appoint someone who can easily understand the job and work accordingly. I will not appoint a new person by teaching someone the job because in that case I will lose time and money. That is why it is necessary to make myself skilled. Skills in those areas are much more necessary than some academic education.
I agree with you, the value of skills in a workplace is always more important than anything else, because here skills are directly reflected in the results of work, but if you only have a paper degree and no skills in anything, you will never be able to survive here, we always employ those who can understand the work quickly and complete it effectively, that is why your skills are more important than a paper degree, it is not possible to survive in a competitive environment with just educational qualifications.

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Unemployment rates are increasing worldwide, and every year many young people are unable to enter the job market after earning a degree from a university. Moreover, companies generally give preference to those with practical experience over those with a degree. So, if even if you have a bachelor's and master's degree from a university, if you don't give priority to them in the job market and give priority to employees without a degree, then what is the benefit of earning a degree from a university? If this continues, people will gradually become discouraged from pursuing a PhD in university and higher education.
Yes, I agree with you because the issues you have raised are absolutely true. Not only in our country but in many countries of the world, many young people still find it very difficult to get a job in the real world and even after earning a bachelor's or master's degree from many reputable universities, they are unemployed. Usually, many companies are looking for experienced workers, but they are not able to join due to the lack of experience of the new ones. Due to this, job opportunities are decreasing, especially for university students. Due to this, many are losing interest in higher education, which can create problems in the future. In this case, the government should make arrangements so that opportunities are created in the job market for educated youth and the value of education is also reflected correctly. If the government can take the right measures, then maybe job opportunities will be created for the new ones, otherwise it is not possible.
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September 22, 2025, 05:08:50 PM
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... If this continues, people will gradually become discouraged from pursuing a PhD in university and higher education.
Degrees definitely have benefits. But if you think about it in terms of money, then the matter is different. Suppose you are using electricity and now you are getting advanced treatment, did that come about just like that? Of course not, someone did research and made the life of people like me and you easier. This has wasted his time and he has gained self satisfaction in his life. This thing can never be fulfilled with money.

In my opinion studying seriously and studying for a degree are two different things. If you study for a job today, I think it would be wiser to develop skills in other sectors than studying for degree. And from there, he can start earning money in a very short time.

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