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Elon Musk launched the America Party, positioning it as a pro-Bitcoin, anti-fiat alternative to the existing political system.
Trump criticized the move, accusing Musk of fueling political chaos. Trust politicians at your own risk! One thing I am certain about is that these politicians will keep using Bitcoin to gain the popularity they so crave until it gets to the point where they all lose their credibility and no one gives a fuck anymore about their stance on Bitcoin. However, for now, let them ride the wave and help more with the mass adoption of Bitcoin. Right now, if a politician publicly supports bitcoin... the community cheers and spreads the news like wildfire because it is still so rare. Not to mention that it also would mean a lot for your country to finally accept bitcoin. We are certainly in that phase where slowly countries are accepting bitcoin. At some point, maybe there will be enough politicians in favor of bitcoin but I do not think the novelty will wear off. It is like any other social issue people take a stand on.
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July 10, 2025, 02:50:39 PM |
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Elon was for crypto even before but people from the internet are putting too much clout of what he's said that fiat. Before most of us are happy when Trump talked about the support for Bitcoin.
And now, we see that it's Musk that's saying that he's for Bitcoin even though we already know that he's for crypto but mostly with memes before.
Many persons are not mad at Elon Musk because of his love for memecoins. They're because of his criticism of Bitcoin, and he didn't just criticize it but went ahead and stopped accepting purchases of Tesla in Bitcoin. Hence, his remark about the new party accepting Bitcoin is not sincere. He only said that because he wants support from the Bitcoin community, and the moment he's done. He will go back and be talking nonsense about Bitcoin.
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July 10, 2025, 03:25:23 PM |
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Elon was for crypto even before but people from the internet are putting too much clout of what he's said that fiat. Before most of us are happy when Trump talked about the support for Bitcoin.
And now, we see that it's Musk that's saying that he's for Bitcoin even though we already know that he's for crypto but mostly with memes before.
Many persons are not mad at Elon Musk because of his love for memecoins. They're because of his criticism of Bitcoin, and he didn't just criticize it but went ahead and stopped accepting purchases of Tesla in Bitcoin. Hence, his remark about the new party accepting Bitcoin is not sincere. He only said that because he wants support from the Bitcoin community, and the moment he's done. He will go back and be talking nonsense about Bitcoin. Classic bait and switch tactic. Not new, and not gonna be stopped from working for the years to come for those not digging too deep into the subject.
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lol! Don’t trust him either but for his Dogecoon to boom a little then Bitcoin must boom as well and for the Reserve speculation, altcoins are part just that Bitcoin is the big picture so him supporting Bitcoin could means he’s indirectly supporting Dogecoin or he clearly has a plan for himself and only himself  because that has always been his plans after all. Haha true, hard to trust his motives. Feels like he’s just riding the Bitcoin wave to boost Dogecoin and serve his own interests. Classic move—always something in it for him!
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July 10, 2025, 03:57:16 PM |
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Elon was for crypto even before but people from the internet are putting too much clout of what he's said that fiat. Before most of us are happy when Trump talked about the support for Bitcoin.
And now, we see that it's Musk that's saying that he's for Bitcoin even though we already know that he's for crypto but mostly with memes before.
Many persons are not mad at Elon Musk because of his love for memecoins. They're because of his criticism of Bitcoin, and he didn't just criticize it but went ahead and stopped accepting purchases of Tesla in Bitcoin. Hence, his remark about the new party accepting Bitcoin is not sincere. He only said that because he wants support from the Bitcoin community, and the moment he's done. He will go back and be talking nonsense about Bitcoin. But one thing most people overlook is that Tesla still holds more than 10kBTC to date. That means Elon's support for bitcoin hasn't gone away and he's just reiterating his support. The difference between Elon and other politicians is that he has been supporting bitcoin since 2021 while Trump and other politicians have called bitcoin a scam before. They only really changed their tune and came back to support BTC when they ran for president. Trump called bitcoin a scam in 2021 when he left office at the end of his first term, why is no one mentioning this? https://www.foxnews.com/media/donald-trump-bitcoin-scam-regulated-cryptocurrency
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July 10, 2025, 04:03:33 PM |
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 Musk goes political: forms party to support BTC, rejects fiat
Elon Musk launched the America Party, positioning it as a pro-Bitcoin, anti-fiat alternative to the existing political system.
Trump criticized the move, accusing Musk of fueling political chaos. Trust politicians at your own risk! One thing I am certain about is that these politicians will keep using Bitcoin to gain the popularity they so crave until it gets to the point where they all lose their credibility and no one gives a fuck anymore about their stance on Bitcoin. However, for now, let them ride the wave and help more with the mass adoption of Bitcoin. Right now, if a politician publicly supports bitcoin... the community cheers and spreads the news like wildfire because it is still so rare. Not to mention that it also would mean a lot for your country to finally accept bitcoin. We are certainly in that phase where slowly countries are accepting bitcoin. At some point, maybe there will be enough politicians in favor of bitcoin but I do not think the novelty will wear off. It is like any other social issue people take a stand on. Just like you said, we are still in the early stages and new to the government, finally embracing Bitcoin and the crypto community at large. It is very normal for the crypto community to react the way they are reacting now. Believe me, people still need assurance from top public officials like this before they can adopt Bitcoin too. Whether these politicians like it or not, a time will come when people will truly pay attention to their actions and not their words if they keep lying to the crypto community. People have already started seeing them for who they are.
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Bitcoin, the world’s first and most well-known cryptocurrency, is not just a financial or technological phenomenon—it has also made significant inroads into politics and governance. Its decentralized nature, potential for financial freedom, and resistance to censorship have positioned it as both a tool and a topic of major political discussion around the world.
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Bitcoin, the world’s first and most well-known cryptocurrency, is not just a financial or technological phenomenon—it has also made significant inroads into politics and governance. Its decentralized nature, potential for financial freedom, and resistance to censorship have positioned it as both a tool and a topic of major political discussion around the world.
Politics is inseparable from everyday life and will continue to coexist in any context. We can see how Bitcoin continues to grow, and even most countries on earth have considered strategic reserves in Bitcoin. This demonstrates a superiority because every choice made is based on a study of potential financial benefits. Recently, we saw the Bitcoin price rally again and reach its all-time high, providing a much more convincing perspective on Bitcoin's trajectory. I'm not sure how Bitcoin can play a direct role in practical politics, but there is ample evidence that leaders have been elected after speaking about Bitcoin. Furthermore, we can see the election of Trump and the South Korean president and how the issue of crypto has been brought into the context of those elections.
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Bitcoin, the world’s first and most well-known cryptocurrency, is not just a financial or technological phenomenon—it has also made significant inroads into politics and governance. Its decentralized nature, potential for financial freedom, and resistance to censorship have positioned it as both a tool and a topic of major political discussion around the world.
Bitcoin existence had shown that investing in digital currency can be very profitable and it's just funny that it's now that many are finding out the truth about investing in Bitcoin and how profitable they can be. When Bitcoin was launched at first many people called it a scam project that could never hit a dollar, at times goes on people started realizing that the adoption is increasing and some said the price will crash and will not hit 100 bucks. Now we are still counting the price of Bitcoin on the 100k path to 200k. Many would be surprised with regret when the price of Bitcoin hits 500k and 1 million dollars. This is a journey and no one knows when the price will hit 1 million dollars. Let's keep counting guys!
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Believe everything said without any basis for belief, and that's how most politicians seize power and build power. Before the election, we saw Elon Musk working closely with Trump to achieve power, and now there's a rift in their cooperative relationship. So how can we trust these two men to handle important matters? Politics is inseparable from national life, but we need to know that they are ruthless and will do anything to achieve their goals.
I tried checking any news outlets that reported that Elon Musk's party will make Bitcoin a legal tender and I couldn't find anyone. Anyone who trusts politicians will be disappointed. They can promise anything to gain political power. When they are elected, you will know that it was a bait to get your vote. I don't trust Trump and Elon, Bitcoin should be apolitical. But one thing most people overlook is that Tesla still holds more than 10kBTC to date. That means Elon's support for bitcoin hasn't gone away and he's just reiterating his support. The difference between Elon and other politicians is that he has been supporting bitcoin since 2021 while Trump and other politicians have called bitcoin a scam before. They only really changed their tune and came back to support BTC when they ran for president. Trump called bitcoin a scam in 2021 when he left office at the end of his first term, why is no one mentioning this?
Elon Musk has not been a steadfast supporter of Bitcoin. He was good at causing FUD in the market. He stopped Tesla from accepting Bitcoin claiming that it destroys the environment. If he were not considering promoting a political party, would he have reconsidered his support?
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Bitcoin, the world’s first and most well-known cryptocurrency, is not just a financial or technological phenomenon—it has also made significant inroads into politics and governance. Its decentralized nature, potential for financial freedom, and resistance to censorship have positioned it as both a tool and a topic of major political discussion around the world.
They want just to control it, end of the story, - the biggest thing for them is to have levers attached to BTC, if possible.
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Every politician is basically forced to shill Bitcoin now if they want to get elected. What a great time to be a Bitcoiner.
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I tried checking any news outlets that reported that Elon Musk's party will make Bitcoin a legal tender and I couldn't find anyone. Anyone who trusts politicians will be disappointed. They can promise anything to gain political power. When they are elected, you will know that it was a bait to get your vote. I don't trust Trump and Elon, Bitcoin should be apolitical.
Politicians often lie and act beyond their promises, and I'd prefer Bitcoin not be involved in practical politics. I've never read a single news story about his party accepting Bitcoin as legal tender. To make this dream a reality, they'll need to change regulations first, and what about the dollar if this is a specific agenda they plan to pursue once they come to power? But one thing most people overlook is that Tesla still holds more than 10kBTC to date. That means Elon's support for bitcoin hasn't gone away and he's just reiterating his support. The difference between Elon and other politicians is that he has been supporting bitcoin since 2021 while Trump and other politicians have called bitcoin a scam before. They only really changed their tune and came back to support BTC when they ran for president. Trump called bitcoin a scam in 2021 when he left office at the end of his first term, why is no one mentioning this?
Elon Musk has not been a steadfast supporter of Bitcoin. He was good at causing FUD in the market. He stopped Tesla from accepting Bitcoin claiming that it destroys the environment. If he were not considering promoting a political party, would he have reconsidered his support? Do you believe that Elon Musk doesn't fully support Bitcoin and is doing it solely for the growth of his business? The question is, how can this idea be implemented if they haven't yet established power in the region, and to gain that power they'll have to fight the two major parties there.
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July 12, 2025, 12:43:10 PM |
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The political system of the USA is currently based on a two-party electoral system (the Republican Party and the Democratic Party). Therefore, it is far from certain that Elon Musk will be able to create a viable third political party. However, even if this attempt is successful, we are talking more about a small representation in Congress and the Senate (several congressmen and several senators). These people will help Elon Musk lobby his industrial projects. If we talk about Elon Musk's attitude to Bitcoin, then in my opinion, he does not take the first cryptocurrency very seriously and even a little ironically. That is why he promoted the meme cryptocurrency - Digecoin coin. Therefore, I do not think that Elon Musk's political initiatives will have a serious impact on the development and price of Bitcoin.
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July 12, 2025, 12:56:02 PM |
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Many countries mostly the advance countries now using bitcoin to support their parties and candidates. Recently, Elon Musk who supported Donald Trump in the recent concluded general election in America last year which brought Trump to Power had a clashed (dispute) with Trump and and left the party (Republican) and formed his own political party and according to information I got, the party is to support Bitcoin. I don't know if that is also in the party BLUEPRINT. And if it is so I think that is a good idea of supporting Bitcoin and it will make it growth stronger. If the Americans Party wins the Presidential seat in America, Elon Musk will adopt Bitcoin as the legal tender currency in the country. President Donald Trump said the "Americans Party" is ridiculous. Capitalists have a strong influence in politics. But right now I don't know the sole candidate of the Party. Politics can make bitcoin to be more adopted by countries if the State Actors fully support the Currency.
A time is coming when we will no longer have to discuss about thing like this on this forum anymore because bitcoin have already gained mainstream adoption and it's absolutely normal for politicians to us it for whatever they are doing like spending bitcoin to run campaigns and so on.. And by then, politicians won't have to use bitcoin anymore as a way to try to win elections because every body is already a pro bitcoin person, so a politician who isnt into bitcoin by then and wishes to win an election would have failed even before he or she started. And concerning Musk and Trump, their feud is between them, but one thing very clear is that when the time to elections comes, both the republican party and the America party will try to provide candidates who are pro bitcoin so as to gain votes from the bitcoin and crypto currency communities.
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Bitcoin, the world’s first and most well-known cryptocurrency, is not just a financial or technological phenomenon—it has also made significant inroads into politics and governance. Its decentralized nature, potential for financial freedom, and resistance to censorship have positioned it as both a tool and a topic of major political discussion around the world.
Politics is inseparable from everyday life and will continue to coexist in any context. We can see how Bitcoin continues to grow, and even most countries on earth have considered strategic reserves in Bitcoin. This demonstrates a superiority because every choice made is based on a study of potential financial benefits. Recently, we saw the Bitcoin price rally again and reach its all-time high, providing a much more convincing perspective on Bitcoin's trajectory. I'm not sure how Bitcoin can play a direct role in practical politics, but there is ample evidence that leaders have been elected after speaking about Bitcoin. Furthermore, we can see the election of Trump and the South Korean president and how the issue of crypto has been brought into the context of those elections. Trump and Musk are two excellent businessmen. I get the feeling that all of Trump's actions as US president are aimed at increasing market volatility. The scandal with Musk resembles some kind of circus performance. It is quite possible that with the help of the volatility of Bitcoin and many other cryptocurrencies, they are making big money, because they know exactly when there will be bad news and when there will be good news. All that remains is to place orders on the exchanges and the money will pour into their pockets.
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July 12, 2025, 02:54:17 PM |
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The problem with celebrities and politicians is that they say anything they want about bitcoin and that effect has to be borne by the market traders and investors. Politics is such that every other political news will make some sort of movement on speculative markets, bitcoin being one of them.
This should be ignored as far as possible. If the drop or rise happens, you should take your share of the discount or sell at profit respectively, but then dont give any importance to anybody talking about crypto.
Dont forget that bitcoin is decentralized and censorship resistant, but because of these reasons someone can say anything that they want to say about bitcoin and not face any problems.
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The problem with celebrities and politicians is that they say anything they want about bitcoin and that effect has to be borne by the market traders and investors. Politics is such that every other political news will make some sort of movement on speculative markets, bitcoin being one of them.
They don't lose anything by saying something and if anything loses, it is their reputation only. I am so doubtful that politicians care about that while they look at support and votes for winning election or pass kind of bills in the Congress. Bitcoin adoption has been uprising considerably since 2009 and it is explainable why politicians in 2025 and recent years have changed their stance on Bitcoin and show more interest in Bitcoin or support it. I'm not sure how Bitcoin can play a direct role in practical politics, but there is ample evidence that leaders have been elected after speaking about Bitcoin. Furthermore, we can see the election of Trump and the South Korean president and how the issue of crypto has been brought into the context of those elections.
Politics relates to many things and Bitcoin is not an exemption at all. Bitcoin us unique and has very little effects from politics so it is well in long term no matter what is done by Trump, Elon Musk or any other politicians and their policies on Bitcoin. In addition, Bitcoin has very good decentralization which is different than all other cryptocurrencies.
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July 12, 2025, 10:53:07 PM |
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You have just said what i have in mind because the words and aspiration of any politician is not to be taken to heart because they are all filled with lies and deceit. I think Donald Trump have already opened the eyes of bitcoiners never to trust politicians again because after all the support the bitcoin community gave him during and after the 2024 elections, he betrayed us all and now Elon Musk is also trying to act as if he is a supporter of bitcoin when we all know that he is ONLY interested in DOGECOIN.
Getting disappointed especially on bitcoin due to the trumps promises that turned out another way from the expectations of Bitcoiners is and was a good reason enough to not want to trust politicians on issues that concerns cryptocurrency. There is mostly some personal interest in what these politicians put out there to get the attention of the people to get them to power only that most persons are not careful enough to pay attention to the undertone of all of these things they put out there for the people to believe. For Elon most of us know that his interest is mostly in DOGECOIN which is where he's got massive stake, he will not be pushing for bitcoin enough because he may not be having as much in Bitcoin and with DOGECOIN he may have some kind of control which he may not be having with Bitcoin, summarily there's still an intention he's got.
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You have just said what i have in mind because the words and aspiration of any politician is not to be taken to heart because they are all filled with lies and deceit. I think Donald Trump have already opened the eyes of bitcoiners never to trust politicians again because after all the support the bitcoin community gave him during and after the 2024 elections, he betrayed us all and now Elon Musk is also trying to act as if he is a supporter of bitcoin when we all know that he is ONLY interested in DOGECOIN.
I agree with you that politicians are not trustworthy and they do everything for their own benefit. I am not defending Trump nor supporting what he is doing to the world economy but I want to ask, what promises has Trump betrayed or broken to the crypto community? Because as far as I remember, he has delivered on most of his promises regarding bitcoin and cryptocurrencies. What makes people angry and complain about him are economic and political decisions like the tariff war, the war with Iran or the spending bill that increases the US national debt. This is an economic and political issue, and has nothing to do with his promises to the crypto community. So it cannot be said that he betrayed or broke his promise to us. He just betrayed Elon and the American voters who believed he would cut spending, reduce the deficit, no wars under him... As for Elon, I don't know if he really cares and supports bitcoin, but one thing is that he invested in bitcoin and Tesla still holds a large amount of BTC, so far. He may value Doge more because it gives him more profit, but that doesn't mean he doesn't have rights or doesn't support bitcoin.
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