Xyes.com $2k+ Scam

[Riceandbean]

You’re right but other casino restrict user to bet or decrease their max bet to penny once they are doing this value bet.

You can’t insist your own fair gaming rules to casino that doesn’t players to have an almost guaranteed win on bets.

Players that doing this type of bet will surely encounter problem on any casino that he will play because odds provider will surely flag his account.

I totally agree with you.
Some guys think they can outsmart the casino, and when it doesn't work out, they come to the forum crying foul. The truth is, every casino limits this type of betting behavior. If you're caught doing it, don't expect them to give the money back ,if casinos started refunding these kinds of accounts, it would just encourage more of the same behavior, and the cost would be massive for them.  i am a prefessional sport bettor,i will take my own risk, i will cash out before they find out, there are some kind of technique and tool can be used, but i assume they never find out.

[LEVSKI7]

btw, Yes, you did valuebetting. Valuebetting is betting over any other odd, so most probably you catched odds over other bookmakers.

Well it wasn't on purpose. I am down $23,000 on betfury in 2025 but was unable to play there anymore since they banned swedish players
I swapped to xyes as they used the same layout

they don't use the same layout, they use the same provider for their sportsbook, and that's betby.
and betby is a soft bookie, so they have a lot of complaints for flaging players for "value betting", but betby isn't the one who took your money, as it's up to the casino to decide how to deal with thier users after they been flaged.

and let's say you did value betting, the right thing xyes should have done imo, is to void those bets and refund your deposit.

they shouldn’t void winnings. People have to stop playing at these books that don’t pay winnings on value bets. Pay all winnings, then ban or limit.

No one except XYes says no value playing in their ToS.

From a legal point of view, they have no right to limit it or close the account = these are normal bets. For example, in Spain, users sue them for limit or account closure and get their accounts restored.In some countries, the regulator imposes such rules. My colleague is from Sweden. I think the bookmaker there also does not have the right to impose a personal limit.

[Rating Place]

Xyes.com has scammed me for $2k+
I am unable to find the exact amount as they have locked my account and I can no longer login

I received this email after I sent all my documents when they were requested:
Our casino provider has flagged your betting behavior as a value
betting arbitrageur and upon further investigation of your account and
betting activity with our casino provider, we have determined that you
have violated our terms and conditions.
As a result, your account registered to this email address/phone will
be permanently closed. All funds and pending bonuses have been
forfeited.
We understand that this is not the outcome you wanted, but our
decision on this is final and we will not enter into further
communications on this matter.

I just want to re-affirm I was not doing arbitrage bets. I was betting purely for fun and over my sports betting accounts lifetime I am actually down like $50,000. However lots of sites have been moving out of sweden due to regulation stuff, so I signed up here as a new alternative.

I don't think I will get this money back which is okay I can afford to lose it, although it does suck to lose it like this.
Posting this mainly to warn others who may make an account here.

Does betfury restrict users from Sweden? I'm not 100% sure, but if you managed to lose 50K to casinos, you r clearly not just a casual player — you probably know how to use a VPN.

Honestly, it sounds like you were already banned from Betfury, and then tried switching to another similar casino, hoping to run the same strategy. But you might’ve overlooked one crucial detail — both sites use the same game provider: betby.

if you were flagged or banned on one platform, it's highly likely the provider recognized your betting patterns immediately on the other. That’s probably why things escalated so quickly. Just something to keep in mind.

I've been limited on my second bet at some books because I was limited at a different book with the same provider. I still got paid in full. Look at the book and not provider. Good books always pay. Getting flagged is no big deal.

Make sure to change device, change IP and change betting patterns and it'll take a longer time to get limited.

[ScamViruS]

@XYes Official I think you should inform the community in more detail with evidence to resolve these scam accusations, how this user tried to take advantage of the system. In fact, it is also important for your reputation to fully resolve a scam accusation. If you resolve this accusation properly with evidence, it will serve as a warning to other gamblers who engage in such activities.

And on the other hand, this user is claiming that he is right. So I think the details should be disclosed so that all the confusion between the two sides will be cleared.

[LEVSKI7]

Are you normal? What evidence can he present after the casino cheats with fraudulent rules?for such rules, first they are sanctioned with a fine and if they continue with the revocation of their license

being so open to seeing how he will defend these fraudulent rules in court.

[yungleann]

I totally agree with you.
Some guys think they can outsmart the casino, and when it doesn't work out, they come to the forum crying foul. The truth is, every casino limits this type of betting behavior. If you're caught doing it, don't expect them to give the money back ,if casinos started refunding these kinds of accounts, it would just encourage more of the same behavior, and the cost would be massive for them.  i am a prefessional sport bettor,i will take my own risk, i will cash out before they find out, there are some kind of technique and tool can be used, but i assume they never find out.

I genuinely have no clue what this topic has devolved into lol
Where am i crying? I do not care if I never get refunded this money, I am simply warning others

You may be a 'professional sports bettor' but I am not, please stop posting your schizo comments everywhere

[acroman08]

xyes.com metnoienid that their odds provider is the one who flagged your account for value betting, perhaps you should avoid bookies that has the same odds provider as xyes.com since they are the ones who flagged your account. I am not siding with xyes.com or anything, I am just saying that maybe avoiding bookies that has the same odds provider as xyes.com would be a good choice for you.

[Rating Place]

xyes.com metnoienid that their odds provider is the one who flagged your account for value betting, perhaps you should avoid bookies that has the same odds provider as xyes.com since they are the ones who flagged your account. I am not siding with xyes.com or anything, I am just saying that maybe avoiding bookies that has the same odds provider as xyes.com would be a good choice for you.

It’s common for people to be flagged. It really doesn’t mean anything. We are all profiled. This is all on XYes. If the OP plays at another good Betby book, his money won’t be stolen.

[Riceandbean]

I totally agree with you.
Some guys think they can outsmart the casino, and when it doesn't work out, they come to the forum crying foul. The truth is, every casino limits this type of betting behavior. If you're caught doing it, don't expect them to give the money back ,if casinos started refunding these kinds of accounts, it would just encourage more of the same behavior, and the cost would be massive for them.  i am a prefessional sport bettor,i will take my own risk, i will cash out before they find out, there are some kind of technique and tool can be used, but i assume they never find out.

I genuinely have no clue what this topic has devolved into lol
Where am i crying? I do not care if I never get refunded this money, I am simply warning others

You may be a 'professional sports bettor' but I am not, please stop posting your schizo comments everywhere

i m simply sharing my opinion how did that suddenly turn into “schizo comments”?
And for the record, this is your thread, not mine. I'm not going around spamming comments everywhere.

Are you saying no one is allowed to disagree with you?
This is a public forum people are free to express different views.

[Rating Place]

There really shouldn’t be any argument on the 4 cases against XYes. They were all 5 second cases. Good Betby books would have paid and limited. XYes just steals.

[nutildah]

i am a prefessional sport bettor

You're prefessionally full of shit is what you are. Your 3rd post:

like this ,go to https://talkimg.com/ , upload the phone you want, and click insert image, i give you a example

This was 6 months before XYes came to the forum!  

The way you write (outside of the AI posts) is remarkably similar to the serial loan defaulter and disgraced campaign manager, usekevin. And a lot like this account too:

As far as I know athletes or professional players are not allowed to bet on themselves[1].  But as the reference stated, it is somehow in a grey area where some players are able to bet on themselves.  According to the regulation, although players are banned on betting on the sports they are involve with, they can bet on other sports that they don't have any affiliation.

Although it was stated that professional player/fighters are ban from betting on themselves, several boxers and MM artist are able to do so  why?  Because there are few exception on the rule[2][3]
...

You seem to be a prefessional liar above all else.

[yungleann]

i am a prefessional sport bettor

You're prefessionally full of shit is what you are. Your 3rd post:

like this ,go to https://talkimg.com/ , upload the phone you want, and click insert image, i give you a example
https://talkimg.com/images/2024/09/23/gjPvC.jpeg

This was 6 months before XYes came to the forum!  

The way you write (outside of the AI posts) is remarkably similar to the serial loan defaulter and disgraced campaign manager, usekevin. And a lot like this account too:

As far as I know athletes or professional players are not allowed to bet on themselves[1].  But as the reference stated, it is somehow in a grey area where some players are able to bet on themselves.  According to the regulation, although players are banned on betting on the sports they are involve with, they can bet on other sports that they don't have any affiliation.

Although it was stated that professional player/fighters are ban from betting on themselves, several boxers and MM artist are able to do so  why?  Because there are few exception on the rule[2][3]
...

You seem to be a prefessional liar above all else.

That is actually hilarious, nice detective work