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January 11, 2023, 06:47:50 PM
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I’m curious to know if there’s any players (fighters,footballers….) who have been caught betting on themselves or on their own team to lose or win, i know it’s not allowed for any player as a part of their contract for example Ufc fighters are strictly forbidden from betting on their own fights. And the reason is pretty obvious since the player can easily manipulate the final score of whatever he is playing or fighting.
But surely in small or unknown leagues there must be some people doing it. For example a goalkeeper of small devision league in Africa where some bookmakers cover betting on the match can create an account on it, if they ask for KYC verification can easily ask his friend or family member to do it for him. And can earn much money by letting his team lose. Fighters can manipulate that even more.
So i would like to know if you heard of any player been caught doing that? and if my example is right?

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January 11, 2023, 07:23:30 PM
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In my country, it is pretty common for small-time event organizers to fix games ranging from volleyball to basketball. They'd bet under the table to make sure no one catches wind of it and then let the whole thing play out. Fixing games are happening all the time in regular games that aren't as massive as national level, mainly because of the lack of proper security and integrity. Then again measures are taken and are actively being employed to ensure that these doesn't happen that much. But it just can't be helped, these people will always find ways to fix games and manipulate the odds according to or against their will to earn a quick buck. That's the way of things in amateur sports level.

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January 11, 2023, 07:36:48 PM
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As far as I know athletes or professional players are not allowed to bet on themselves[1].  But as the reference stated, it is somehow in a grey area where some players are able to bet on themselves.  According to the regulation, although players are banned on betting on the sports they are involve with, they can bet on other sports that they don't have any affiliation.

Although it was stated that professional player/fighters are ban from betting on themselves, several boxers and MM artist are able to do so  why?  Because there are few exception on the rule[2][3]
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So, in general, athletes are not allowed to bet on themselves. There are a few exceptions to these rules, especially when athletes find grey areas in the legislation and regulation processes. This is only valid for individual matches and sports, like boxing, MMA, or tennis



[1] https://medium.com/bitcoin-news-today-gambling-news/can-a-professional-athlete-bet-on-themselves-593223b597c3
[2] https://shortboxing.com/why-boxers-can-bet-on-themselves-but-not-against-themselves/
[3] https://www.fightmatrix.com/2022/11/28/ufc-fighters-and-betting-can-they-bet-on-themselves/
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January 11, 2023, 07:44:34 PM
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I’m curious to know if there’s any players (fighters,footballers….) who have been caught betting on themselves or on their own team to lose or win, i know it’s not allowed for any player as a part of their contract for example Ufc fighters are strictly forbidden from betting on their own fights. And the reason is pretty obvious since the player can easily manipulate the final score of whatever he is playing or fighting.
But surely in small or unknown leagues there must be some people doing it. For example a goalkeeper of small devision league in Africa where some bookmakers cover betting on the match can create an account on it, if they ask for KYC verification can easily ask his friend or family member to do it for him. And can earn much money by letting his team lose. Fighters can manipulate that even more.
So i would like to know if you heard of any player been caught doing that? and if my example is right?

We've been hearing out those kind of circumstances but this isnt that likely to be seen on huge leagues or tournaments which it is really that prohibited.If its proven then say goodbye
which you would really be facing up those violations or the worst you would be banned or completely be paying huge money if got caught.
For small leagues or simply with those local games or match ups then it might be that common considering that these games arent really that much big for the
sports commission or something like this would really be minding into.

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January 11, 2023, 07:45:05 PM
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Yes, it's posible.

In e-sport (Why, I mentioned e-sport because I like gaming). Especially on tournament there a things called "322", meaning like throwing the game and the player betting their own game & get caught winning around 322$.

Feel free to search, everything is possible mate.

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January 11, 2023, 07:55:40 PM
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It is very possible for such to happen. That is how the name match fixing came about. If a player were to bet on themselves or their team knowingly, it is sure to influence the outcome of the game, hence, it defeats the purpose to which the player plays and why the spectators bet.
It is rather an improper conduct and is a crime which could derail ones career or profession, if such a one is(are) discovered.

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January 11, 2023, 08:18:58 PM
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I’m curious to know if there’s any players (fighters,footballers….) who have been caught betting on themselves or on their own team to lose or win, i know it’s not allowed for any player as a part of their contract for example Ufc fighters are strictly forbidden from betting on their own fights. And the reason is pretty obvious since the player can easily manipulate the final score of whatever he is playing or fighting.
You already get the point and this makes me wonder,
Why are you curious then.

It's really that simple for players not to bet on there own games or teams to avoid issues of manipulations. Perhaps in some underground games but some properly regulated games by a body, its just something that shouldn't be done.

You'll have players doing all they could to either win or deliberately lose and that would mean, doing what is unbecoming of a good sportsmanship.
For football, it's a no. At least to the best of my knowledge. You don't don't get to bet through someone else. Perhaps other sports should adopt that to ensure good sportsmanship at the games.

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January 11, 2023, 08:27:50 PM
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Yes it is possible for players to bet in themselves but it is highly prohibited in the gambling industries.
I'm very sure that most of this strict restrictions is very common in UFC games but I haven't heard of such I'm football and I haven't really thought of them because I haven't taken time to see the possibilities in such because the games involves more then one person and it wouldn't be easy to do such in soccer(my perspective).
I really don't don't know why every evil situation(s) are easily associated with Africans? I think they really need to work on their corrupt system and start doing the right thing

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January 11, 2023, 08:47:08 PM
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I’m curious to know if there’s any players (fighters,footballers….) who have been caught betting on themselves or on their own team to lose or win, i know it’s not allowed for any player as a part of their contract for example Ufc fighters are strictly forbidden from betting on their own fights. And the reason is pretty obvious since the player can easily manipulate the final score of whatever he is playing or fighting.
But surely in small or unknown leagues there must be some people doing it. For example a goalkeeper of small devision league in Africa where some bookmakers cover betting on the match can create an account on it, if they ask for KYC verification can easily ask his friend or family member to do it for him. And can earn much money by letting his team lose. Fighters can manipulate that even more.
So i would like to know if you heard of any player been caught doing that? and if my example is right?


I have always heard that players gamble but I have never been able to see the content of their bets that's why I can't conclude that they bet on themselves or their team. In sports like football, I don't think it would be easy to manipulate the score except if some of the team members are aware or the goalkeeper is involved. Just one player might not be able to determine the outcome of a football or basketball match but one boxer or wrestler can.

But I think this act of gambling on self or ones team should be highly discouraged and should be covered and restricted in the contract of this player regardless of the size or level of the club. Players betting on themselves or their team can kill the beautiful game of sports.

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January 11, 2023, 08:58:30 PM
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Nothing is impossible when it comes to gambling, but it is a big offense when you are caught,it can lead to your ban in sports. When it comes to street fighters,fighters can place their bet on themselves in other to bring out the best in them by fighting to make sure he wins and also in some local games in an under develop country,it is possible but not in a professional sport.
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January 11, 2023, 09:03:26 PM
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In my country, it is pretty common for small-time event organizers to fix games ranging from volleyball to basketball. They'd bet under the table to make sure no one catches wind of it and then let the whole thing play out. Fixing games are happening all the time in regular games that aren't as massive as national level, mainly because of the lack of proper security and integrity. Then again measures are taken and are actively being employed to ensure that these doesn't happen that much. But it just can't be helped, these people will always find ways to fix games and manipulate the odds according to or against their will to earn a quick buck. That's the way of things in amateur sports level.

The same here,some years ago a big scandal was with a couple of best teams of the soccer Premier League we have here.Some senator players as they were called because they were the ones who made a difference in winning most of the games and winning titles back then,were caught drinking cigarettes (totally forbidden for any football player),drinking alcohol (heavily not recommended) and they were caught on a hidden camera talking to each other how they used to fix games.A further investigation was made and they were all put to jail for some time and the teams were put in second and third category.

Now I don't know if this happens again but I am sure that if players of a certain team want to bet on the team they play and to fix the game it is heavily possible from the smallest country to the great ones.

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January 11, 2023, 09:06:07 PM
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It's been literally done for decades. Here's one example:

"The 1915 British football betting scandal occurred when a Football League First Division match between Manchester United and Liverpool at Old Trafford on 2 April (Good Friday) 1915 was fixed in United's favour, with players from both sides benefiting from bets placed upon the result. In all, seven players were found to have participated in the scandal and all were subsequently banned for life, although most later had their bans overturned."
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1915_British_football_match-fixing_scandal

And it keeps happening right now. In 2017 one guy who represented England bet on his transfer. When the news came out he was banned from the casino without payment.
In English Premier League players aren't allowed to bet on football at all, but they can bet on other sports.

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January 11, 2023, 09:11:11 PM
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That’s possible to happen or you will just ask someone to bet for you and gave him the money you want to gamble. There are also site where you can place your bet without giving your personal information so probably its happening. Betting on your own game might give you more profit especially if you know what is going on and you know that your team can win. Though some site might restrict you to do this since its like cheating on the game.
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January 11, 2023, 09:13:17 PM
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These things happens and not just in some low tier leagues. It happens in top leagues like EPL. There is some famous players who got caught betting rules:
https://bookmakers.co.uk/news/footballers-who-have-been-banned-for-betting-on-their-sport
And it's not even about getting involved in match fixing and games where you play. Football players, managers and staff can't bet can't bet directly or indirectly on any football game worldwide, share inside information like injuries and transfers
https://www.fifa.com/legal/integrity/betting-in-football
Though, I'm sure that players from not very well known leagues worldwide are betting on major leagues like EPL or Champions league and not getting caught.
In other sports rules can be different, but one thing is same everywhere - you can't bet on games where you're involved.

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January 11, 2023, 09:18:24 PM
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The possibility of this is wide, player can bet on their own games and themselves either through proximity so even though players and fighter are publicly banned to bet on their own matches, it's still possible for them to use family members or close friends to make such bet and their clubs will never be aware it.

Aside from that, some other laws may not totally ban the players from participating in bets on their games and are allowed to bet at will.

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January 11, 2023, 09:25:55 PM
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It's been happening but the players or the fighters kept it to themselves, it's against the rules but if you think your team or yourself do not have chances against their opponents might as well bet on the opposing team or fighter, the organization cannot stop it especially now that we have Cryptocurrency casinos where you can bet anonymously or you can even use a dummy account of your friend to bet against your opponents, that is why whenever we see upsets people speculate that the fight is rigged or one fighter deliberately lose the fight because he is betting against his opponent.
It's hard to stop this practice especially if one fighter can likely make a lot of money, it usually happens in non-championship fights
because in a World title match, there's so much prestige attached to it than money.
 

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January 11, 2023, 09:31:06 PM
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Am very sure such event will be happening but it will be a secret which they will never want to reveal. In my country I do hear about people asking you to pay them so that they will give you fix matches, but I don't really know where they  are getting the matches from. Am sure players will definitely be making extra cash from their, but that's cheating, they are making use of opportunity, they will be manipulating a game, which I believe any player caught should be punished seriously.

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January 11, 2023, 09:34:56 PM
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Professional athletes or players aren't allowed to bet on their games. Even their family members and the members of their team aren't allowed too. There's a strict code of conduct on these players that they should abide by all the time, else it's a huge scandal and no one wants that to happen. Ever wonder why when there's such a thing that happens like this, it almost makes it to the news even if the one who made the bet is a cousin or some other distant family member? It's frowned upon by sports organizations, and gives the impression that whoever in the side of the players made the bet must know something is up (fixed match).

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January 11, 2023, 09:53:29 PM
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It's true that professional athletes are often not allowed to wager on their own contests. Professional athletes have been caught wagering on their own games or contests on several occasions. For instance, NBA referee Tim Donaghy was found guilty of wire fraud conspiracy in 2007 after being caught betting on games that he refereed. Similar to this, a soccer player from Italy named Daniele Rugani was given a one-year suspension in 2013 after being found guilty of betting on a game he participated in.
It's crucial to remember that such conduct is not only disfavored but frequently illegal and subject to numerous penalties, including fines, suspension or termination of the contract, legal actions, and the like.
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January 11, 2023, 09:59:16 PM
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We do have this.
https://wfdf.sport/wp-content/uploads/2020/08/wfdf_code_of_conduct_on_sports_betting_integrity_approved_bod.pdf

WFDF Code of conduct on sports betting integrity for athletes, officials and event participants

There are already some events which some athletes or officials had been caught on betting up on a certain game
which they do really have been sanctioned and face up some charges.

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