The Slot Machine money Glitch

[Dave1]

In relation to the topic that I open here, If You Knew a Game Was Rigged, will you continue to play and exploit the system?. There is another very interesting case that fall under this topic.

It was, that two people found a glitch in a slot machine and won a lot of money. But the Nevada Gaming and Feds investigated it and they sue this two people. The complete story is here:



The case against them was thrown out because it was not proven that they cheated, they didn't hacked or tampered the machine. It was played as designed, this individuals push the button was part of the machines native interface. No law prohibited a player from switching games increasing a bet or pressing double-up the machine was flawed.

But I guess their is still the consequences for this two individuals as they have disappeared and stay quiet.

[stompix]

But I guess their is still the consequences for this two individuals as they have disappeared and stay quiet.

What consequences?
They went to trial and case has been dismissed, it means not guilty, it means keeping his wins as no case was opened against him afterwards, all he and his partner got was a ban from casinos.
Anyhow, they got stupid and greedy way too late, they could have just hit the casinos on a roll for a few weeks all across the states and be gone before the team would have figured what was happening and before the company would have seen in the reports a game keeps losing money. Things that are impossible today as tracking is on a different level.

[Yaunfitda]

But I guess their is still the consequences for this two individuals as they have disappeared and stay quiet.

What consequences?
They went to trial and case has been dismissed, it means not guilty, it means keeping his wins as no case was opened against him afterwards, all he and his partner got was a ban from casinos.
Anyhow, they got stupid and greedy way too late, they could have just hit the casinos on a roll for a few weeks all across the states and be gone before the team would have figured what was happening and before the company would have seen in the reports a game keeps losing money. Things that are impossible today as tracking is on a different level.

I think them arguing might have cost them a lot, they separated and then hit two cities at the same time with the same machine and with the same tactics. So that is obviously giving out the signal to the casinos and the regulators that they might know something about that time of machine and the provider itself. But if today, by chance someone has discovered this kind of flaw in a slot machine and took advantage of it? they might have s short life span as what you have said, tracking is very different and maybe to the extend of following us outside of the casino. In any case this two change some rules in the book as exploits know are considered manipulation and they can prosecute anyone with that mandate.

[cryptoaddictchie]

But if today, by chance someone has discovered this kind of flaw in a slot machine and took advantage of it? they might have s short life span as what you have said, tracking is very different and maybe to the extend of following us outside of the casino. In any case this two change some rules in the book as exploits know are considered manipulation and they can prosecute anyone with that mandate.

Imagine how these guys find a flaw on a slot machine. If they didnt do any sort of cheating but just discovered something that through their advantage. Is that still considered a violation? Someone concern probably reported it instead but ofcourse they think its a chance for them to earn more on gambling, they didnt have mistakes maybe the only oen they did is become so greedy.

[davis196]

But I guess their is still the consequences for this two individuals as they have disappeared and stay quiet.

What do you want them to do? Brag about their huge gambling winnings left and right?
I would do exactly the same thing, if I ever managed to find a slot machine, that has a glitch. Get the money and go quiet.
Maybe they have disappeared because the "gambling mafia" had made them "disappear". Unfortunately, gambling is still a dirty business. Some casino owners are mobsters, and they don't mind scamming people and running rigged games, but when someone exploits their casinos, they get mad and would do whatever it takes to punish that guy.
By the way, the "slot machine glitch" can be a great marketing move, if done correctly. Some casinos could spread rumors about having "slots machines with glitches", so many people would just lure in and spend money on slots machines, that are actually working well.

[swogerino]

In the country where I live now I have heard stories from my colleagues that in the early 90-ties a company called Astra opened up many shops with simple computers that had many different games in it. They were easily rigged by players with a metal device at that time that showed you it would be a high or low card. Many people were caught because doing the stupid thing of keep winning while the smart ones won one time big and then lost several times small amounts, they also changed shops frequently, in the end this company was banned by the government. I don't know if people finding these flaws are good or bad ones, I am not here to judge anyone yet stories like these I have heard a lot.

[bhadz]

If they have been put into court and got into trial and dismissed, it means that they're clear. They have no problem with that but the negligence of the casino is the reason why it happened. Usually, this is what will happen when a casino can't accept defeat and they thought that they've been cheated out by their players. But if the player has been cheated by them, online or physical one, it will be an easy verdict and the balance that they have won't be distributed anymore. Plus they get a ban and removable of access to them.

[btc_angela]

If they have been put into court and got into trial and dismissed, it means that they're clear. They have no problem with that but the negligence of the casino is the reason why it happened. Usually, this is what will happen when a casino can't accept defeat and they thought that they've been cheated out by their players. But if the player has been cheated by them, online or physical one, it will be an easy verdict and the balance that they have won't be distributed anymore. Plus they get a ban and removable of access to them.

It's obvious that since this is the first case in history, casino don't know how to respond but they thought that their case is air tight and so they go after this individuals. But they are all wrong as the defense attorney was really that good.

And so it was a defeat for the casino but they don't want to admit that they have the fault. Or at least the operator who had their program flawed and that this individuals was able to exploit it. And it's good that in the video itself, the narrator says that their could be other flaws that is not yet discovered and who knows maybe in the future we might hear another of this news but this time, the culprit might go into jail.

[joeperry]

I think I watched that before, they managed to find a glitch on the slots but I'm not surprised that they're being sued. The casino will think at as a threat and therefore they would lose profit from their slots but it's unfair as they didn't tamper it nor did anything and played it as it were, I think the best they can do is give back their deposits or instead, just give them a reward money for finding that vulnerability on their machine.

I was wondering what if you find bugs on online casino, and you really are earning and withdrawing it. Are you going to tell it to the casino/game provider or you will just play and play it until you will be caught?

[Agbamoni]

But I guess their is still the consequences for this two individuals as they have disappeared and stay quiet.

I will prefer the consequences buddy. After I am an indoor person, no need to flaunt the wealth outside because you might be target for criminals.
If the case was thrown out by the court, and they were proven not guilty which obviously and by they law they are, they are not facing any consequences. Only that they will banned from visiting that casino and perhaps others around the neighborhood and beyond. However, who cares if they have the money they want to do other things. The money they got is enough not to visit the casino anymore right?

[bhadz]

If they have been put into court and got into trial and dismissed, it means that they're clear. They have no problem with that but the negligence of the casino is the reason why it happened. Usually, this is what will happen when a casino can't accept defeat and they thought that they've been cheated out by their players. But if the player has been cheated by them, online or physical one, it will be an easy verdict and the balance that they have won't be distributed anymore. Plus they get a ban and removable of access to them.

It's obvious that since this is the first case in history, casino don't know how to respond but they thought that their case is air tight and so they go after this individuals. But they are all wrong as the defense attorney was really that good.

And so it was a defeat for the casino but they don't want to admit that they have the fault. Or at least the operator who had their program flawed and that this individuals was able to exploit it.

They don't want to take accountability for that but since they have put the fight on the trial. Well, the court have decided on which fault it really is.

And it's good that in the video itself, the narrator says that their could be other flaws that is not yet discovered and who knows maybe in the future we might hear another of this news but this time, the culprit might go into jail.

That is the interesting thing in these cases. We might see something odd soon or cases that has never been seen before. So, the casinos who has seen such cases will also take care of themselves and as well as the machines that they operate. There will be a routine maintenance and check from time to time to make sure that it's not going to have a glitch that shall cost them a lot of money.

[bubilas]

It was, that two people found a glitch in a slot machine and won a lot of money. But the Nevada Gaming and Feds investigated it and they sue this two people. The complete story is here:

The case against them was thrown out because it was not proven that they cheated, they didn't hacked or tampered the machine. It was played as designed, this individuals push the button was part of the machines native interface. No law prohibited a player from switching games increasing a bet or pressing double-up the machine was flawed.

But I guess their is still the consequences for this two individuals as they have disappeared and stay quiet.

I heard in the news in my country about guys who teamed up in a three-man team and bought old slot machines. They were mechanics and engineers, so they spent days studying slot machines for vulnerabilities in the garage. They came up with devices that affected old slot machines in physical casinos, and thus made a profit. They were caught by accident, because one of them in the casino dropped a cheating device from his pocket. He got nervous and when the police caught him, he gave away his accomplices and all the methods of cheating slots.

[bitbollo]

these glictches and anything that could potentially allow to rig a game are not infinite and of course will be everytime addressed.
It means that people need to spend many efforts to find "new way" for getting some kind of advantage.
Probably this is one of the rare cases where players are able to get their wins, but think on how much stress and risky would be this "venture"...

[BitGoba]

If I knew a game was rigged, I’d be careful before continuing to play. Exploiting a glitch might bring wins, but it can also bring trouble.In this case, two people used a slot machine flaw without cheating, and the court cleared them. Still, they disappeared, probably to avoid problems.

Even if there is a glitch in the game, exploiting it carries risks and might not be worth it in the end.

[Iroh]

But I guess their is still the consequences for this two individuals as they have disappeared and stay quiet.

They won the case in court. You said it yourself, the case was thrown out cause it wasn't proven that they had cheated. There is no consequences, perhaps aside from being banned from that casino and perhaps a few others.
As for them going dark, I think that's probably the best action they can take. I would imagine they wouldn't appreciate all the spotlight they would be under.
Their gamble literally paid off.

[maydna]

But if today, by chance someone has discovered this kind of flaw in a slot machine and took advantage of it? they might have s short life span as what you have said, tracking is very different and maybe to the extend of following us outside of the casino. In any case this two change some rules in the book as exploits know are considered manipulation and they can prosecute anyone with that mandate.

Imagine how these guys find a flaw on a slot machine. If they didnt do any sort of cheating but just discovered something that through their advantage. Is that still considered a violation? Someone concern probably reported it instead but ofcourse they think its a chance for them to earn more on gambling, they didnt have mistakes maybe the only oen they did is become so greedy.

Casinos may not want to accept the excuse about that and will still try to chase them and show much evidence. We know casinos can do that because they have a lot of money they can use to bring the evidence.

But if that person doesn't do anything including not cheating the machine, and he can show valid evidence, casinos cannot do anything and just keep their anger.

They just find a flaw on a slot machine coincidentally without realizing and keep playing. But they win much money and keep the money and leave the casino. That is still not a violation because they don't know and they only consider it because of their luck.

[SmartGold01]

If there is a glitch on the system was it their fault?
Did they know that the machine has a glitch this are things to asked, okay let us turn it the other way; what if the match also has an internal error where no one wins for long would they sue anyone? Won't they be happy for extortion?
My judgement is that if those two guys knew already that the machine has a glitch they wouldn't had continue gambling instead could had seek for the attention of the instructor over there or maybe after the first winning, second winning they could had stop gambling.

[Outhue]

They kept the wins mate, so all cases are dismissed, they won and that's all that matters, if the casino still think they did something wrong maybe they should upgrade their machine? A glitch that can't be found is no glitch to me but if they think otherwise they can fix it. I am guessing the money won is too big for the casino that's why they feel hurt, they believe those guys cheated and they can't prove it, this is why I hate some casinos, when you win big it becomes a problem.

[Ruttoshi]

But I guess their is still the consequences for this two individuals as they have disappeared and stay quiet.

They won the case in court. You said it yourself, the case was thrown out cause it wasn't proven that they had cheated. There is no consequences, perhaps aside from being banned from that casino and perhaps a few others.
As for them going dark, I think that's probably the best action they can take. I would imagine they wouldn't appreciate all the spotlight they would be under.
Their gamble literally paid off.

They are free because they didn't intentionally took advantage of the glitch the slot machine had. They were lucky and that was how they won huge amount of money through a glitch and stayed quite to avoid people's attention on them.

The casino should accept their loss and fix the problem. After all, the casino is still running and will recover from their losses overtime. Is the consequences going to be law of karma or something?

[hopenotlate]

Let me play devil's advocate and reverse the perspective : if the slot machine had a glitch that caused players to lose much more than their expected value would Nevada gaming and Fed  taken the steps to identify and refund them for the money lost, for the emotional damage due to negative feelings unjustly felt while living that negative experience caused by the glitch and the for time they wasted?