The Slot Machine money Glitch

[348Judah]

The case being dismissed by the court didn’t really mean that the players didn’t exploit the system, they simply dismissed the case prolly because the casino couldn’t provide them with enough evidence for them to really believe that the system was exploited and that’s why those users got away with this case.

Assuming this was a case of hack or the system being compromised by the user in other for them to exploit it then I’m sure they would have received a more severe response but since it wasn’t anything of such, they simply just saw something they thought would make them more money and tried it out and it worked for them.

The house is famous for clapping back on gamers who win so much, but players don't get a chance to sue the casino for losing due to glitches. However, the two players are quite lucky and should lay low if they are guilty of the accusation, because the investigation will still be ongoing. But, since the house has no evidence, then the fault is from the house.

This has been the usual way things have been, when you gamble and lose, you don't sue the gambling platform, while if you play a bet and win, then they see you as a celebrity, because you won big amount and they have to recognize for that, but if you lose big, then everything dies in silent without a compensation or any form of recognition, isn't it then better that we should gamble more responsibly than facing the wrath of our mistakes at wrong expectancies.

[rachael9385]

If the case against them was dismissed then what consequences are you talking about? The only way that they are actually going to get arrested is if they turn theirselves in and admit that they exploited the system but no one is foolish enough to do that. If there's a money glitch in the slot machines then it's not the gamblers fault. The casino are the ones that are going to take the blame for the loop hole

[Lanatsa]

But I guess their is still the consequences for this two individuals as they have disappeared and stay quiet.

What consequences?
They went to trial and case has been dismissed, it means not guilty, it means keeping his wins as no case was opened against him afterwards, all he and his partner got was a ban from casinos.
Anyhow, they got stupid and greedy way too late, they could have just hit the casinos on a roll for a few weeks all across the states and be gone before the team would have figured what was happening and before the company would have seen in the reports a game keeps losing money. Things that are impossible today as tracking is on a different level.

Greed could messed up everything on which if they've been just that thinking that they can make money or even make themselves rich because on what they have discovered then they would definitely be thinking up on what you had mentioned on here is that they would be that roll over all of those casinos around and would be that trying out to abuse on whatever the strategy that they have been able to discover.
Actually it is hard to believe that there would be some sort of this kind of taking advantage specially against on a casino slot. Its been programmed and if ever they do saw up that patterns or on whatever it would be then it is that hard to believe but since it do happen then it do proves out that it do works. They havent been charged of cheating so therefore they do know something. If they're gone then they might have started to roll out? haha

If the case was been thrown out then there's no proof that they've been cheating because if there would be some sort of tweaking or changing up codes or what then that would be something punishable but it turned out to be opposite and they do end up no issues then there's nothing that those casinos would do. The only thing that they can be able to do so is to banned those people to play into their business.
For sure that banning information will spread out on other casinos as well on which they will be having that close monitor at least. You are threat into their business and thats why its normal that they would be having such approach or decisions. Glitch or whatever it would be then this isnt a situation that you can see on everyday, this is why they would be that trying out to abuse it as much as possible if they do have the chance.

[Mrbluntzy]

But I guess their is still the consequences for this two individuals as they have disappeared and stay quiet.

What more consequences awaits them when the court already ruled that they didn't hack into the machine nor did they tampered with it, the operators of the machine are responsible for what ever happened and if they want to judged the case again, the  gamblers would have to revert the money back to the casino but that's if the court approved of it, so it totally depends on the final judgement by the court.

[Oasisman]

But I guess their is still the consequences for this two individuals as they have disappeared and stay quiet.

And why is that they disappeared and stay quiet? The case was dismissed. There's no way they are still considered guilty, though they are acting like one.
Nevertheless, only the casino owner will hold a grudge against them, and the best thing they can do is to never let these individuals come to their casino ever again. Outside of that, I don't think there will be more consequences awaiting them.

[bhadz]

While that is true, it still shows that they're not at fault with that. Looking on who's fault really is what the trial went through and they're not at fault with that. But the next time that they will be caught into that situation, they're for sure won't be able to escape from any trial's verdict anymore. Because getting involved with a glitch for the second time around will speak on how guilty they are and it's no longer a natural thing that's caused by any error and negligence from the casino.

I looked up at the law in Nevada before the incident happen and there is no clear law about exploiting glitches, there are laws about tampering the machine and manipulating it but there is no clear prohibition about exploiting glitches during those time.  This is also the reason why the two exploiter were cleared of any cases filed against them.

Right after the incident it is when the regulator board patches their regulatory law about manipulating machines and adds the prohibition of exploiting glitches and program bugs or continuously using the buggy machine without reporting it to gain advantage, which is considered a criminal offense.  So if anyone is planning to take advantage of this program's glitches or machine errors then it is not wise to do so since it is now considered a criminal offense.

So they have become the perfect test run of what the law makers have to do in specific cases like the one they've gone through. And it's good to know that they have already patched this law in relation to this kind of violation to protect the casinos as well. There could really be in trouble with the two involved but since they lack of law pertaining to the case, they have to be released and so the next time there will be violators doing the same thing. They will not have any release anymore but they have to deal with the punishment and the fine if there's any.

[Sanitough]

If the case against them was dismissed then what consequences are you talking about? The only way that they are actually going to get arrested is if they turn theirselves in and admit that they exploited the system but no one is foolish enough to do that. If there's a money glitch in the slot machines then it's not the gamblers fault. The casino are the ones that are going to take the blame for the loop hole

You can’t really blame them since the casino is technically the victim here, but they also can’t go after the people who abused the glitch if the law doesn’t clearly say what they did is illegal. It’s a long process, and in most cases, casinos might just take the loss and focus on fixing their system, especially if the amount isn’t that big. They know they still have a huge market and profits to expect anyway.

In fact, it could even be seen as a blessing in disguise, if more people had found that glitch, their losses would’ve been much bigger, and the integrity of their casino could’ve been at serious risk.

[DaNNy001]

The casino knows that they have been cheated but the problem here is that they don't have proof to really nail those guys to it...they have no consequences to face because they have already been dismissed by that court so the case isn't going anywhere... I wonder how they did it though without hacking into the machine because glitches like this rarely happens on it's own, I don't think the casino will let this slide

[Hispo]

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But I guess their is still the consequences for this two individuals as they have disappeared and stay quiet.

No wonder, they not only happened to pocket a considerable amount of money, their case was also made of public interest and they got their faces out there as soon as they got sued by the casino.
There are people who win the lottery and ask for the lottery company not not hold any event to congratulate them for their win, because they value their privacy and their personal safety. That is in the case the money was gotten legitimately.

Now imagine how it would be with money alledgedly gotten illegitimately. I would even consider to move out the country and change my name.

[Dave1]

But I guess their is still the consequences for this two individuals as they have disappeared and stay quiet.

What consequences?

What I mean is that these individuals could have been blacklisted in all of the casinos in the United States. So it's either they go outside in European cities wherein there was that slot machine that they exploit and not have been patched yet by the provider, or just feel off the radar and didn't play at all.

They went to trial and case has been dismissed, it means not guilty, it means keeping his wins as no case was opened against him afterwards, all he and his partner got was a ban from casinos.
Anyhow, they got stupid and greedy way too late, they could have just hit the casinos on a roll for a few weeks all across the states and be gone before the team would have figured what was happening and before the company would have seen in the reports a game keeps losing money. Things that are impossible today as tracking is on a different level.

Because we haven't seen this kind of exploits that is why the case is dismissed. And I believed that the verdict is correct. However, it make the commission more powerful but implement changes in their rules regarding this exploit.

[r_victory]

He should have called the manager and said that the machine was defective and couldn't operate because it was paying out to gamblers. Maybe they would have given him some roulette chips as compensation. 

Let's be honest, a losing machine, a gambler winning? Hmm, there's something very strange going on, let's interrogate him. Of course, it can only be a glitch, slot machines are not made to lose...

Joking aside, and ignoring the flaw, analyzing the security guards' vigilance makes me believe that the casino doesn't want you to win. If that happens, they will do everything they can to prevent you from leaving with the money. Winning makes you suspicious; the norm is for the gambler to lose!

[cryptomaniac_xxx]

The casino knows that they have been cheated but the problem here is that they don't have proof to really nail those guys to it...they have no consequences to face because they have already been dismissed by that court so the case isn't going anywhere... I wonder how they did it though without hacking into the machine because glitches like this rarely happens on it's own, I don't think the casino will let this slide

They have proof, otherwise they won't sue the two involved. And they think that they can a good case as the game provider itself gave them how this two is "cheating". But they forget one thing, it didn't have any precedent before and the two got a good defense lawyer to boot.

Yes, good question, how is the first individual find the pattern in the first place? It is due to luck although it was told that he didn't know it in the beginning but he still continue to do it until he discovers the pattern. And then he called up his friend who explain what is really going on and so they do it and they become greedy at one point and separated. And so it raises the suspicious as there are two estates with the same machine are winning but they are far apart.

[tread93]

In relation to the topic that I open here, If You Knew a Game Was Rigged, will you continue to play and exploit the system?. There is another very interesting case that fall under this topic.

It was, that two people found a glitch in a slot machine and won a lot of money. But the Nevada Gaming and Feds investigated it and they sue this two people. The complete story is here:



The case against them was thrown out because it was not proven that they cheated, they didn't hacked or tampered the machine. It was played as designed, this individuals push the button was part of the machines native interface. No law prohibited a player from switching games increasing a bet or pressing double-up the machine was flawed.

But I guess their is still the consequences for this two individuals as they have disappeared and stay quiet.

I remember reading about this case and if I remember correctly it did get dismissed and it was because they absolutely couldn't prove it. I wonder if these guys got some scares from the casino dogs or something. Ya know in the movies how they beat the piss out of them in the back and tell em if they ever see them in their town again they'll kill em! I'm imagining that kind of ending here lol

[Samlucky O]

But I guess their is still the consequences for this two individuals as they have disappeared and stay quiet.

What more consequences can they both face after being investigated and was proven to be not guilty? Those two are innocent of the charges from the story and there is nothing to Hold them responsible for since it's not their fault that the slot machine had a glitch. Of course anyone in the position of this two, will do likewise knowing that wining is hard, and when the opportunity to win Jackpot countless times comes,they will not hesitate to do so.

[uneng]

Casinos don't like winning gamblers, especially the traditional physical ones. It's a common practice among them to blacklist gamblers who manage to win on long run. They are immediately considered cheaters by casinos, although there isn't solid evidence in some cases. It's more likely the casino doesn't want to lose, so they claim the gambler foung a way to cheat their games.

Nowadays it's not a big issue, though. With so many gambling alternatives on virtual universe, nobody should be concerned about being blacklisted by a determined casino for winning more than the casino thought they should. If you aren't welcome at one casino, just move to the next one.

And if after all the casino still believes the gambler is a cheater, they have to prove it in the court, anyway.

[michellee]

But I guess their is still the consequences for this two individuals as they have disappeared and stay quiet.

What more consequences can they both face after being investigated and was proven to be not guilty? Those two are innocent of the charges from the story and there is nothing to Hold them responsible for since it's not their fault that the slot machine had a glitch. Of course anyone in the position of this two, will do likewise knowing that wining is hard, and when the opportunity to win Jackpot countless times comes,they will not hesitate to do so.

That will be casino's fault for not checking all of their machines so people can use the glitch to their advantage. If casinos always maintain the machine, they will know if there is an error and fix it immediately before something bad happens.

Those two are free from the case and although the casino insists on chasing and suing those two, they will difficult to prove. Those two win from the slot machine so the casino can not do anything.

It is normal if they disappear and stay quiet. They don't want to have a problem with the casino.

[MArsland]

After all this case is no longer about who is wrong and who is right. When the gambling was brought to court and it was decided that the 2 people were free of charges then regardless they realized the defect of the slot machine in the end they won. What Nevada Gaming should do in the future is to always ensure or check casino machines regularly, because slot machines are still machines that will error if left unchecked. The 2 people are indeed wrong not to disclose the actual facts but they also still have a strong excuse to play as they should.

[retreat]

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But I guess their is still the consequences for this two individuals as they have disappeared and stay quiet.

It was so justified that they kept silent after this case. Although they are innocent, but the gambling industry is notoriously dirty and quite cruel to people who try to take advantage of the system, and in this case maybe they are worried for their own safety so they have gone abroad, or they have been silenced, we just don't know for sure, but hopefully they are still alive.

[mindrust]

In a situation like that it is better to win right enough to stay under the radar. Don’t be greedy. Ignoring the machine error completely doesn’t make sense as you probably won’t understand what was happening right away and you won some without knowing about it. That’s your honest prize. After that, it is wise to leave quietly let it be some other guy’s problem. If you keep playing and try to bankrupt the casino, then you’ll have a problem like the guy in the story. I don’t recommend it. That’s where it gets problematic. I don’t think the dude has a solid case here. The casino might let him keep some of the money he won though just because it is expensive to hire lawyers.

[Dr.Bitcoin_Strange]

The casino knows that they have been cheated but the problem here is that they don't have proof to really nail those guys to it...they have no consequences to face because they have already been dismissed by that court so the case isn't going anywhere... I wonder how they did it though without hacking into the machine because glitches like this rarely happens on it's own, I don't think the casino will let this slide

They were not found guilty since they didn't actually hack the system, else the investigation team would have nailed them to the crime that was committed but nothing was found on them and if they end up spending the money before any other case is raised, if at all anything else will come up, then it will take time for them to gather the money to repay them. The slot machine had a glitch which the gamblers only found out about it and used the opportunity to make so much money, they can even deny that they don't know the slot matche had a glitch.