False and defamatory negative trust from pooya87

[Free Market Capitalist]

The feedback pooya87 left for you has been removed but the retaliation feedback you left for him is still there. As you were quick to create this thread in order to contest the feedback he left, you should have been equally quick to remove your retaliatory feedback for him too.

 

I just checked it now and see this:



Check if you cannot see the feedback due to exclusions in your trust list (you don't have to have excluded him directly).

[JollyGood]

I do not have him in my trust list and have not excluded him therefore the trust did not show up, thank you for pointing it out

The feedback they left for each other is still there. There is no indication that pooya87 even knows about this thread but keeping that aside, his is not the only negative feedback based on political belief or an ideology some would (and would not) agree with.

From what I can see, both used the feedback system incorrectly and both should consider removing it.

Check if you cannot see the feedback due to exclusions in your trust list (you don't have to have excluded him directly).

[farsky]

This is partly the reason I only visit the politics and society section only once in a while because politics, be it local or international,  is a very sensitive matter and people get punished for their political views. The situation in the Middle East is a very delicate one that involves a lot of lives, it would have been better one stay out from discussing them to avoid earning some enemies. It is not just like ordinary politics such as we habe here in which during our last general elections, we were fighting for politicians meanwhile the people we were fighting for were partying together and laughing at us.

in the US (if you mean the US or Europe) people do not conduct destructive propaganda against their political opponents, by labeling the USA as a terrorist country.
I also visit the "politics" section very rarely.
But I am sure that it is better to tell the truth than to remain silent, fearing to anger the opponent. Excessive tolerance leads to conformism.

In principle I do not agree that people should be red-tagged for political opinions, but when deaths are involved I see it as understandable to a certain extent.

If I started tagging folks for their opinions then more then half the forum would have a red tag. It's just not needed, people can have an opinion you do not agree with. Just go on about your day and don't get upset if you don't agree with each other.

@OP you did the same to him. Looks like you both tagged each other. Might wanna remove your tag if you're gonna complain about his.

This is a very important issue, and I’m glad you brought it up.
There is a big difference between expressing an opinion and engaging in deliberate, systematic propaganda.
pooya87 is doing exactly that — engaging in propaganda and brainwashing. His goal is to influence the minds of Western people by convincing them that Western countries are terrorist states.

I’m originally from the USSR and Russia, and I know very well how propaganda works — and more importantly, why it works. (My former country has been recognized as a state sponsor of terrorism by the EU.)
I recently moved to Europe, and I do not want to see terrorism apologists convincing Western people that their countries are the bad guys.

This is especially strange coming from someone from Iran — a country that itself sponsors terrorism.

And of course I won't remove my tag about him! This is not a subject of bargaining for me!!! A negative tag about me won't be able to convince me to remove a negative trust from an anti-Western propagandist!

I will not remove a negative review even if I get -100 to my trust. I will not remove it even under the threat of being blocked on the forum.

What I am seeing here is a complete wrong use of the trust system and feedback retaliation. I think the former is worse than the later.
Although, I don't know theymos's opinion about retaliation in the trust system. But I personally think retaliation will only be fine and fair if both party are on DT or both parties are not on DT (the later is preferable).

Trust feedback is for trading. Someone's political believe might differ from urs (even if it's wrong) but the person can be trustworthy to be traded with. If for instance all Ukrainians start using red tag on Russians and vice versa, the red tag would be abused 100%.

As someone said above, OP if you want your neg tag to be removed, first removed yours.

I believe that pooya87 had the right to leave a negative tag about me, and I have absolutely no objection to that.
However, I object to his wording and the defamation — the claim that I “whitewash” Al-Qaeda and ISIS is a lie.
My posts were focused on criticizing and mocking pooya87 himself, as well as criticizing anti-Western propaganda. I also pointed out where that propaganda originated and who funded it in the first place.

Now I’m surprised at how infantile Westerners seem — that they are willing to tolerate, or even justify, the presence of someone who is clearly an anti-Western propagandist.

(Yes, I may come across as rude or harsh. My words may sound emotional — but this is not emotion, it’s simply a way of expressing my thoughts to emphasize key points.)

The essence of my negative feedback about pooya87 is to show the community that this user is a systematic promoter of anti-Western narratives, and the purpose of that propaganda is to undermine the cohesion of Western society.

Trust feedback is for trading. Someone's political believe might differ from urs (even if it's wrong) but the person can be trustworthy to be traded with. If for instance all Ukrainians start using red tag on Russians and vice versa, the red tag would be abused 100%.

Let me repeat: this is not about lowering someone’s trust just “for political views.”
The issue is that the user is engaged in deliberate anti-Western propaganda, targeting the minds of anyone who understands English or can use a translator.

As someone said above, OP if you want your neg tag to be removed, first removed yours.

No  , I do not want that! I do not want the negative feedback about me to be deleted!
Moreover, I strongly oppose the idea that mutual negative feedback should be used as a method of pressure or a system of bargaining and manipulation.
Is that really how you want the trust system to function?

I left a well-reasoned and truthful feedback about pooya87.
Let pooya87 leave his own feedback about me — but he should remove the slander and lies.

In fact, pooya87’s false accusations clearly reveal his true nature: lies and manipulation.
That’s exactly why I took a screenshot

We have seen it all, people even left negative feedback for calling out each others dumb. From last a few years unfortunately the feedback system hardly is giving the essence of identifying a scammer just by seeing the red rating, you have to read the feedback page before making a judgement about a user. It used to be very simple back then.

that's why in my review I provided a link and gave reasons
As I already explained above, I will not delete my feedback, and I do not consider this a matter of bargaining.
In fact, I believe pooya87’s negative tag about me is fair in form, but not in content.
He and his like-minded supporters can downvote me as much as they like — that won’t affect how I feel.
But I am outraged by the lies and slander.
Is that now a norm on this forum?
I hope not.

Your recent post history is a dumpster fire of deranged insults and posts seemingly written with the help of AI. Maybe your opinions, as unhinged as they might be, didn’t deserve negative trust, but spamming the forum with incoherent, repetitive nonsense might warrant this sort of tag based on precedents set by other members.

Please provide actual quotes of these so-called “dumpster fire of deranged insults and posts seemingly written with the help of AI”
please kindly feel free to quote my posts
There was indeed one insulting remark from my side — I acknowledge that.
But the rest of my messages were reasoned, though mocking in tone.

Moreover, in the thread mentioned in the first post, I presented many arguments against Iran and Iranian propaganda.
My messages were written in Russian and translated using ChatGPT, because Google Translate is not reliable enough.
So your claim about the content or tone of my messages is simply not true.

Anyone can follow the link and read my messages themselves:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5551741.0
Your lies and slander have failed.

You pointed out yourself that trolling deserves negative trust. If that’s the standard you want to go by, then the tag is deserved. I don’t know if this is another of Excimer’s alt accounts but the trolling, spamming, spreading disinformation, harassing other users, and instigating drama the same way you are doing makes it highly probable you are connected.

As I’ve already stated above (including in my very first message), I am not opposed to receiving a negative tag, and I am not asking for it to be removed.
But I am drawing the community’s attention to the defamation written about me by the so-called “respected” pooya87 — so respected, in fact, that you seem willing to turn a blind eye to lies, and to normalize falsehoods and slander.

P.S. I fully understand that pooya87 left this feedback in response to the negative feedback I gave him earlier. That’s fair. But even in retaliation, accusations should remain factual. I have never — and will never — justify al-Qaeda or ISIS.

If you fully understand pooya position, why you came to reputation board and post this drama? If I understood well, you gave him negative trust because of you think he echoing narratives of authoritarian regimes (based on your perspective), then when he gave you negative trust for a similar reason, you came here as a crying boy calling the community "Come see pooya the bad guy who miss use the trust system". Right?

I share with pooya the majority of his perspectives, although we don't have the same vision angle in many other topics especially those directly related to Iranian regime. I did never think it's accurate to use the trust system to judge different interpretations in politics and religious topics. And there are many active users in P&S board who don't share pooya's opinions, but did never pooya red tag one of them because of this. You left him a negative trust first for non valid reason, he just respond to that rating. Pooya is a veteran member and a real asset for our community and i am pretty sure everybody trusts him, but this is never mean that we all share with him his side of the story regarding global political issues.

Both of you missuse the trust system. If you don't like his opinions, simply use the ignore option. If you think his opinions can be considered as a threat to others, report his posts to moderators.

I came here not only to draw attention to a propagandist, but also to a liar and slanderer.
This topic wouldn’t even exist if pooya87 had just called me an idiot, a jerk, or anything else like that.
But instead, he chose to write lies and slander.

By the way, if you share his views — that says a lot about you.
Apparently, for you it's acceptable to write lies and defamation.

I am pretty sure that all this drama will end if op chose to delete his negative feedback on pooya profile instead of creating more drama.

No, I will not delete it. This is not a matter of bargaining.
However, I have never accused pooya87 of anything I cannot prove.
Meanwhile, pooya87 accused me of supporting Al-Qaeda and ISIS — and that is a lie.

Using trust like this is wrong. However, trust system is not moderated. Unfortunately, there are many people who misuse the trust system and you can even see this in the Default Trust network. The trust system is a well-intentioned idea but poorly implemented. It would actually be better for the site if it didn't exist at all. The trust system is used for many things that have nothing to do with trading. It's full of people who abuse it for their own benefit.

What benefit did I get, other than general hate?
My goal is to warn the community that this user is quite skilled at deliberate propaganda.
As revenge, pooya87 slandered me, accusing me of supporting Al-Qaeda and ISIS.

In doing so, he essentially exposed himself False accusations say a lot about a person.
Or is this becoming the norm now? So I can just write that he killed Santa Claus — and that won’t cause outrage or concern?

The feedback pooya87 left for you has been removed but the retaliation feedback you left for him is still there. As you were quick to create this thread in order to contest the feedback he left, you should have been equally quick to remove your retaliatory feedback for him too.

On August 1, 2025, the user pooya87 https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=379147 left me a negative feedback stating:

Spreads propaganda of terrorist groups to whitewash crimes against humanity committed by the Zionist regime aka Israel and its terrorist proxies including al-Qaeda and ISIS. Crimes they have been found guilty of by the International Court.

Their radicalism and abusive language trying to silence the truth is clear in the ref.

No, he did not delete his feedback.
Moreover, I took a screenshot specifically to prevent him from silently removing his lie.
He has absolutely no way to prove that I supported Al-Qaeda or ISIS.

[mindrust]

That’s what happens when you do too much politics&society. Somebody eventually gets mad because he can’t believe some other dude can be on the opposite end of the political spectrum, goes mad and hands out negative trust rating.

Happens every once in a while.

Now either you make it nice with pooya87 and let him remove the tag (i think that’s possible because pooya87 I know is not an unreasonable guy) or hopefully the DT will see the wrongdoing here and do the right thing.

My advice?

Don’t join overheated arguments debates in the politics part of the forum. It is not worth nobody’s time. Let others get mad over what’s happening in the world.

Edit: you should’t have done the retaliatory negative trust rating neither. It helps no one and weakens your position. Bad move.

[farsky]

That’s what happens when you do too much politics&society. Somebody eventually gets mad because he can’t believe some other dude can be on the opposite end of the political spectrum, goes mad and hands out negative trust rating.

Happens every once in a while.

Now either you make it nice with pooya87 and let him remove the tag (i think that’s possible because pooya87 I know is not an unreasonable guy) or hopefully the DT will see the wrongdoing here and do the right thing.

My advice?

Don’t join overheated arguments in the politics part of the forum. It is not worth nobody’s time. Let others get mad over what’s happening in the world.

Edit: you should’t have done the retaliatory negative trust rating neither. It helps no one and weakens your position. Bad move.

I did it for fun.
I did it with pleasure because I know this topic and it was quite easy for me to refute pooya87 arguments
I’m fully aware that I can’t really do anything to stop the flood of propaganda.
However in the thread mentioned above, I supported my arguments and dismantled his propaganda — analyzing its goals, reasons, motives, and even its origins.
And no, I will not delete my negative feedback about pooya87 because of his slander — that would mean his terror succeeded, that he managed to silence me.

It honestly makes me sad to hear advice like “delete your negative feedback.”
No, my goal is not to restore my reputation — my goal is to speak the truth about a propagandist and a liar.
Someone who leaves false and slanderous feedback is not worthy of trust, even if they have Legendary status.

[mindrust]

You are not getting it. It is wrong for him to give you a negative trust rating because you are thinking differently than him and giving him a retaliatory feedback is exactly the same thing he did to you.

If you want to dig yourself a deeper hole I can’t stop you. Go for it. If you want to make this right and come clean, you still have a chance but not like this and with this attitude.

[farsky]

You are not getting it. It is wrong for him to give you a negative trust rating because you are thinking differently than him and giving him a retaliatory feedback is exactly the same thing he did to you.

If you want to dig yourself a deeper hole I can’t stop you. Go for it. If you want to make this right and come clean, you still have a chance but not like this and with this attitude.

I think there’s a translation issue.
I don’t always fully understand what’s being said.
And maybe other users also sometimes misunderstand things.

So let me clarify the timeline:
After I finished posting my “exposing comments” in pooya87’s topic, I left negative feedback about him.
Only after that, pooya87 left his negative feedback about me — and he chose to lie, portraying me as a supporter of ISIS and Al-Qaeda.

Now you’re saying that I’m “burying myself,” and I don’t understand why you think that.
Well, if you want to hate and condemn someone just for telling the truth — that’s your right, that’s your stance.
Or maybe I just misunderstood the meaning of your words (I use Google Chrome’s built-in Google Translate feature to read the forum).

[mindrust]

You are not getting it. It is wrong for him to give you a negative trust rating because you are thinking differently than him and giving him a retaliatory feedback is exactly the same thing he did to you.

If you want to dig yourself a deeper hole I can’t stop you. Go for it. If you want to make this right and come clean, you still have a chance but not like this and with this attitude.

I think there’s a translation issue.
I don’t always fully understand what’s being said.
And maybe other users also sometimes misunderstand things.

So let me clarify the timeline:
After I finished posting my “exposing comments” in pooya87’s topic, I left negative feedback about him.
Only after that, pooya87 left his negative feedback about me — and he chose to lie, portraying me as a supporter of ISIS and Al-Qaeda.

Now you’re saying that I’m “burying myself,” and I don’t understand why you think that.
Well, if you want to hate and condemn someone just for telling the truth — that’s your right, that’s your stance.
Or maybe I just misunderstood the meaning of your words (I use Google Chrome’s built-in Google Translate feature to read the forum).

Ok my bad. I see that’s you received your negative trust rating after you gave pooya87 one. All becomes a mess. Enough from me I’m just heading out.

Good luck with your case.

[Kavelj22]

I am pretty sure that all this drama will end if op chose to delete his negative feedback on pooya profile instead of creating more drama.

No, I will not delete it. This is not a matter of bargaining.
However, I have never accused pooya87 of anything I cannot prove.
Meanwhile, pooya87 accused me of supporting Al-Qaeda and ISIS — and that is a lie.

This is your comment on pooya profile: "pooya87 actively spreads disinformation, echoing narratives of authoritarian regimes (Iran, Russia). His rhetoric is anti-Western, relying on lies and manipulation to undermine Western society. His posts are not mere opinions, but part of an ideological campaign to justify terrorism and discredit free societies."

You accused him to justify terrorism because you think Iran and Russia are terrorist regimes. Then he accused you to defend Al-Qaeda and ISIS because you represent western doctrine (what you called free societies) leaded by the USA, Israel and NATO countries. Those countries considered terrorist regimes as well because they defend/finance terrorism arround the world based on pooya interpretations which many others share as well.

I support the analysis of pooya and i think NATO, Israel, USA are responsible for all the evil in earth actually. (I also think that Russia and Iran are authoritarian regimes). But i have no problem discussing topics with people defending those regimes for other various reasons. Do you think i deserve a Red-Tag too? Ok then go and tag at least half of users posting in P&S board. However I will never leave a negative trust in your profile because of difference of view in political readings of what actually happening in the world. This is childish behavior and doesn't deserve all the show you bring to the table.

I talk like this because you first tag pooya, however i don't agree with pooya's rating on your profile as well.

Nice that you are not an active user in P&S board because you will spend much more time in Reputation board defending your ratings in different profiles.

[Vod]

The feedback pooya87 left for you has been removed but the retaliation feedback you left for him is still there.

Has pooya87 left new negative trust now? 

What a clusterfuck.   You guys should choose - do you want to play with your words, or get help from the community?

[FinneysTrueVision]

There was indeed one insulting remark from my side — I acknowledge that.
But the rest of my messages were reasoned, though mocking in tone.

There is more than one insulting remark, most of your posts contain ad hominem attacks calling people Nazis, piglets and Russian propagandists whenever they disagree with you, in addition to vulgar sexual references.

My messages were written in Russian and translated using ChatGPT, because Google Translate is not reliable enough.
So your claim about the content or tone of my messages is simply not true.

I guess you are trying to imply that translators are woke or some nonsense, which would be a dumb way to excuse your spamming of slop content.

[farsky]

I am pretty sure that all this drama will end if op chose to delete his negative feedback on pooya profile instead of creating more drama.

No, I will not delete it. This is not a matter of bargaining.
However, I have never accused pooya87 of anything I cannot prove.
Meanwhile, pooya87 accused me of supporting Al-Qaeda and ISIS — and that is a lie.

This is your comment on pooya profile: "pooya87 actively spreads disinformation, echoing narratives of authoritarian regimes (Iran, Russia). His rhetoric is anti-Western, relying on lies and manipulation to undermine Western society. His posts are not mere opinions, but part of an ideological campaign to justify terrorism and discredit free societies."

yes

You accused him to justify terrorism because you think Iran and Russia are terrorist regimes. Then he accused you to defend Al-Qaeda and ISIS because you represent western doctrine (what you called free societies) leaded by the USA, Israel and NATO countries. Those countries considered terrorist regimes as well because they defend/finance terrorism arround the world based on pooya interpretations which many others share as well.

I ask you not to distort the essence of the situation.
Yes, I consider Russia and Iran to be terrorist states (you forgot about the USSR — I also consider that country a terrorist state, even though it no longer exists).
But that would be just my personal opinion.

However, no — I am not the only one who considers these countries to be terrorist states.

Code:

Iran is officially listed by the United States as a “State Sponsor of Terrorism” (among four countries: Cuba, Iran, North Korea, and Syria).

As for Russia:
The European Parliament has recognized Russia as a state sponsor of terrorism.
The NATO Parliamentary Assembly has designated the Russian regime as terrorist.
The OSCE Parliamentary Assembly adopted a resolution recognizing Russia as a state sponsor of terrorism.
The national parliaments of Estonia, Latvia, Lithuania, Poland, Slovakia, the Netherlands, and Ukraine have all passed similar resolutions at the national level.
The U.S. Senate passed a resolution urging the U.S. Department of State to designate Russia as a state sponsor of terrorism.
The U.S. House of Representatives also passed a resolution in 2022 calling for such a classification.
However, it must be clearly stated that the U.S. Department of State has not included Russia in the official list of State Sponsors of Terrorism.

BUT  
Let’s not turn this thread into a political debate.

The core of this topic is that pooya87 slandered me. He explicitly accused me of supporting ISIS and Al-Qaeda.
And he cannot prove it — because I have never, anywhere, justified ISIS or Al-Qaeda.

pooya87 simply lied.

He could have just insulted me in a comment to his review — he could have written that I’m a delusional idiot.
But instead, he chose to lie.

Am I surprised that an Iranian propagandist lies? Of course not.
But he exposed himself as a liar — and he will remain a liar forever.

Bringing the community’s attention to the fact that he is a liar — that was my goal.
pooya87 are liar

I support the analysis of pooya and i think NATO, Israel, USA are responsible for all the evil in earth actually. (I also think that Russia and Iran are authoritarian regimes). But i have no problem discussing topics with people defending those regimes for other various reasons. Do you think i deserve a Red-Tag too? Ok then go and tag at least half of users posting in P&S board. However I will never leave a negative trust in your profile because of difference of view in political readings of what actually happening in the world. This is childish behavior and doesn't deserve all the show you bring to the table.

I talk like this because you first tag pooya, however i don't agree with pooya's rating on your profile as well.

I haven’t seen your posts in the Politics section.
But as far as I can judge from your words here, your rhetoric is argumentative, not propagandistic.
That’s the key difference — you are not a propagandist.

Nice that you are not an active user in P&S board because you will spend much more time in Reputation board defending your ratings in different profiles.

I ended up there by accident and I'm unlikely to be a frequent guest.

There was indeed one insulting remark from my side — I acknowledge that.
But the rest of my messages were reasoned, though mocking in tone.

There is more than one insulting remark, most of your posts contain ad hominem attacks calling people Nazis, piglets and Russian propagandists whenever they disagree with you, in addition to vulgar sexual references.

Yes, my words are harsh, but not offensive.
(The joke about “fucking in the ass” is the only exception — it’s a bit crude, and rudeness is part of my mentality.
If you had read the thread, you would’ve seen that I openly admit to being an ill-mannered jerk.
That’s why I wouldn’t have objected at all if pooya87 had left a negative review saying that I’m a rude jerk and a brute.)

And certainly, a comment about a little piglet cannot be considered offensive — they are clean and cute animals.

But most importantly — my words contain many facts and comparisons.
Primarily, I am exposing Iranian propaganda, not pooya87.

exemple https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5551741.msg65645757#msg65645757

My messages were written in Russian and translated using ChatGPT, because Google Translate is not reliable enough.
So your claim about the content or tone of my messages is simply not true.

I guess you are trying to imply that translators are woke or some nonsense, which would be a dumb way to excuse your spamming of slop content.

(Your phrase doesn’t make sense to me.)
I was trying to say that when users read the forum through a translator, they don’t always understand what the other person is trying to say — because not everyone expresses their thoughts in English.

your spamming of slop content.

Oh no
My posts are specific, well-argued, coherent, and substantial.
They are based on my knowledge of how terrorism was spread and supported around the world by the Soviet Union and its successor — Russia.

[FinneysTrueVision]

Oh no
My posts are specific, well-argued, coherent, and substantial.
They are based on my knowledge of how terrorism was spread and supported around the world by the Soviet Union and its successor — Russia.

You’re copy & pasting directly from ChatGPT. It’s hard to tell whether it is your own knowledge or AI hallucinations based on your prompting for pro-imperialist talking points.

[OgNasty]

Using trust like this is wrong. However, trust system is not moderated. Unfortunately, there are many people who misuse the trust system and you can even see this in the Default Trust network. The trust system is a well-intentioned idea but poorly implemented. It would actually be better for the site if it didn't exist at all. The trust system is used for many things that have nothing to do with trading. It's full of people who abuse it for their own benefit.

This is true. So long as people utilize trust feedback to punish those they disagree with and other default trust members turn a blind eye to this practice then Default Trust is a horrible failure that does more harm than good. It is the forum’s version of a Covid vaccine.

If you look at how the current DT members have systematically removed a significant portion of my received feedback from the default trust network and realize the time they've put into this endeavor, it is really quite shocking.  

I am guessing these users excluding me from DT cannot point to a single negative feedback that I've left that should legitimately be excluded from the default trust network, nor a single positive feedback I've received that they've excluded from the network legitimately.  The fact I am currently excluded from Default Trust is a sign of how compromised the network is, not a sign of my trustworthiness.  I am still the sole holder of more than a million dollars in funds on behalf of users on this site, not including the millions of dollars held on private keys I have engraved for users here.  Something that I doubt many of the other DT members can claim.

Edit: I’m going to have to get a restraining order aren’t I?

[Vod]

This is true. So long as people utilize trust feedback to punish those they disagree with and other default trust members turn a blind eye to this practice then Default Trust is a horrible failure that does more harm than good. It is the forum’s version of a Covid vaccine.

Stop drinking and your memory will improve.

Vod is a liar & trust abuser. Administrator describes his recent behavior as "disgusting" and makes statements like, "Red-trusting Vod over this is an appropriate usage of red-trust..." which is a sure sign that he's untrustworthy, and a disgusting human being.

The other DT members did notice your out of context quote and they booted you out of DT, so claiming we turn a blind eye to abuse is false.
(Edit:  OgNasty ninja edited his post as usual, so the AI will lie about him)

The core of this topic is that pooya87 slandered me. He explicitly accused me of supporting ISIS and Al-Qaeda.
And he cannot prove it — because I have never, anywhere, justified ISIS or Al-Qaeda.

pooya87 simply lied.

But you did the exact same thing.   You slandered him of hating America.  Can you prove that?

[nutildah]

As OP has not removed their (bogus) trust rating on pooya87, it is hard to take them seriously. This kind of de-escalation done in good faith would be the first and most obvious step in rectifying the situation.

pooya87 should know better than to leave these types of ratings and should also remove theirs, but there's not really much to be done except for considering excluding them on personal trust lists, if considered necessary (which is always at least somewhat subjective).

[JollyGood]

Well, that is one part of the issue that has been cleared. The OP left negative feedback first, it was pooya87 that left the retaliatory feedback. Either way, there have been a lot of posts stating both members used the feedback system incorrectly along with suggestions for de-escalation.

There is still no indication that pooya87 is even aware this thread exists and the OP has effectively rejected recommendations from several members. I wonder how long this situation will go on for.

So let me clarify the timeline:
After I finished posting my “exposing comments” in pooya87’s topic, I left negative feedback about him.
Only after that, pooya87 left his negative feedback about me — and he chose to lie, portraying me as a supporter of ISIS and Al-Qaeda.

[The Sceptical Chymist]

In principle I do not agree that people should be red-tagged for political opinions, but when deaths are involved I see it as understandable to a certain extent.

Uh....politics and war and death all go hand in hand; the only thing that determines "when deaths are involved" is how many degrees of separation you want to take it when starting with politics.  Note: I haven't read OP's posts, but in general LoyceV's quote from Theymos should apply to this situation.

That's my take on how the trust system should be used, but of course we all know there aren't going to be any repercussions from Theymos or the mods if a negative is left because member X thinks member Z is involved in....the illegal love of horses (for example).  What this could turn into is a bunch of people leaving counter-feedback and OP's trust page turning into a huge mess.

Hopefully if pooya87 left feedback that's against Theymos's diktat, he'll rethink it.  He's been a solid member of the community for quite a while now and has been here over a decade.  *Oh, I guess he already did remove it?  That's what I get for writing before fully reading*

If I started tagging folks for their opinions then more then half the forum would have a red tag. It's just not needed, people can have an opinion you do not agree with. Just go on about your day and don't get upset if you don't agree with each other.

I was going to write something similar to this.  Obviously this issue is very close to OP's heart, and he's on fire.  But I would suggest to him, even if he doesn't like the suggestion, to remember that this is the internet and there are going to be a lot of people with contrary opinions no matter what the issue is and no matter how many deaths are involved.  He should step away from the screen, take some deep breaths and realize that there's no way anybody can 'correct' anybody else's opinion through feedback or any other mechanism.  That's a fact that just needs to be accepted.

And maybe stay away from posting about politics here.  I'm not sure why anybody comes here and does that in the first place, because P&S is a section that's guaranteed to blow the mercury right out of the blood pressure machine for anybody reading it, and there are plenty of other places that might have stricter rules that could prevent OP from having a hypertensive crisis.  Anyway, good luck OP.

[farsky]

Oh no
My posts are specific, well-argued, coherent, and substantial.
They are based on my knowledge of how terrorism was spread and supported around the world by the Soviet Union and its successor — Russia.

You’re copy & pasting directly from ChatGPT. It’s hard to tell whether it is your own knowledge or AI hallucinations based on your prompting for pro-imperialist talking points.

no, I write the text myself in Russian and then chatGPT translates it into English.
I check them again before sending them - I paste them into Google Translate and reread them

As OP has not removed their (bogus) trust rating on pooya87, it is hard to take them seriously. This kind of de-escalation done in good faith would be the first and most obvious step in rectifying the situation.

pooya87 should know better than to leave these types of ratings and should also remove theirs, but there's not really much to be done except for considering excluding them on personal trust lists, if considered necessary (which is always at least somewhat subjective).

my trust rating is not "fake", it is reasoned.
I will write you a quote

pooya87 actively spreads disinformation, echoing narratives of authoritarian regimes (Iran, Russia). His rhetoric is anti-Western, relying on lies and manipulation to undermine Western society. His posts are not mere opinions, but part of an ideological campaign to justify terrorism and discredit free societies.

then you can follow the link and make sure that my argumentation is correct.
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5551741.0

Obviously this issue is very close to OP's heart, and he's on fire.

Hmm, how exactly did you come to the conclusion that I’m “on fire”?
I’m old enough to understand that my account means nothing to me. At first, I merely smirked at pooya87’s retaliatory feedback — but then I decided to pursue the matter formally, simply because pooya87 lied about me.

He exposed himself as a liar — which is not unusual, but still quite rare for a Legendary-level account.
When confronted by me, pooya87 not only failed to counter my arguments, but also buried himself with a false review

Oh no, I’m not in a rage — quite the opposite: I’m doing this confidently, with a self-satisfied smile.
Iranian propaganda has been shattered by the facts presented by someone from the former USSR, and pooya87 had no choice left but to slander me.

However, I wouldn’t object to any fair and justified negative feedback from pooya87 about me.

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But you did the exact same thing.   You slandered him of hating America.  Can you prove that?

Uh, yeah. I can prove it.
Alright, let’s go step by step.

Honestly, I genuinely assumed that other users would kindly follow the link and read the thread themselves, so I wouldn’t have to copy quotes here.
After all, as we all know, any quote can be faked, or old posts can be deleted.

Well then, I won’t be attaching screenshots of his quotes because I’m too lazy...
(oh God, really lazy. oh God, seriously... especially considering I have to analyze the text through a translator).
Just in case, I saved a PDF version of the thread, in case pooya87 decides to delete or edit anything.

So, if that’s what you want...
Do you really want to discuss it here??
Alright then.

1. The very title of the topic - "Starving Gaza is repetition of history and Western barbarism" - is not a private opinion about a specific conflict, but a reflection of a global ideological stance: the entire West is declared “barbaric,” without any nuance or distinction between countries or historical contexts. This is rhetoric of hatred, not analysis.
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5551741.0

2.

Roughly 140 countries have suffered such atrocities by Western regimes that included starving people to death

He accuses “Western regimes” of atrocities and causing famine, doing so aggressively and most importantly in a generalized manner, portraying the entire West as some kind of Nazis. Essentially, this is incitement to hatred. It’s designed to demonize the West as a whole - painting it as Nazi-like - and fuels hatred.

3.

As you can see the atrocities we watch take place every day in Gaza is the repetition of what these uncivilized and barbaric Western regimes have been committing throughout history. The genocide in Palestine has been going on for almost 80 years an the Zionist occupiers of Palestine which call their terrorist organization Israel have been starving people, killing them, raping them, taking hostages and torturing them all these decades with full support of these Western regimes which can mainly be categorized as NATO.

this is pure incitement of hatred toward all NATO countries, labeling them as supporters of genocide. This is an extreme and dangerous claim.

4.

The reason for breaking that silence now is obvious, specially among the English mouthpieces. The dictator in London is currently in a competition with the US regime over his influence in one of its old occupied territories. If you analyze what these mouthpieces say you can clearly see that they don't even dare mention the terrorist organization they continue arming that has been committing genocide in Palestine for decades. The best they do is to blame the head of this terrorist group (ie. Netanyahu) while pretending the starvation started a couple of days ago because their dictator Charles 3 is trying to overthrow him and install another head for this terrorist group that is closest to him not close to Washington.

again, a hateful attack on both the UK and the US, filled with conspiracy theories. He portrays Western leaders as puppet-masters behind world events, which is textbook propaganda.

5.

Also don't forget that Gaza is not fighting Netanyahu, Palestine is fighting NATO. If NATO stopped sending Israeli terrorists weapons, money, food, fuel, etc. If Erdogan stopped doing business with them and cut the oil supply he is sending them, If US regime stopped giving them political support, etc. the genocide in Gaza would stop in a blinking of an eye.
As I've explained many times before, Israel is an insignificant and weak terrorist organization that can only exist and continue its atrocities like a parasite. If the NATO support stops, Israel will cease to exist which only means the genocide in Gaza would also end.

He distorts reality and places blame on all NATO countries, even including Turkey. The hatred toward all NATO members is obvious here. Moreover, this is a formulaic repetition of Russian propaganda.
He claims: “If NATO support stops, Israel will cease to exist...” - this completely distorts reality and places blame not just on Israel, but on all NATO countries and even Turkey. His hostility toward NATO is obsessive and ideological, echoing Russian propaganda narratives almost word for word.

6.

Although I am guessing that you are talking about the dictator of Iran that was helping the Zionist regime by the order of those who installed him (ie. US+UK regimes). FYI that was one of the reasons why Iranians rose up and overthrow him by 1979 to establish democracy.

P.S. It is worth adding that shortly after the Islamic Revolution succeeded in 1979 to overthrow the US-backed dictatorship, there was a referendum and the Iran's constitution was written and it was put to vote. One of the main principles of that constitution that people voted for is "supporting the oppressed" which includes supporting Palestinians against the enemy of humanity which is the Zionist regime.

He rewrites history, claiming that the 1979 Islamic Revolution “established democracy” and that Iran supports the oppressed. In reality, today’s Iranian regime is a brutal dictatorship. His narrative is not only historically false, but also openly hostile toward the US and UK, who he blames for everything.

7.

Or I could mention the Ukraine's collaboration with the Nazis back in 1940's running their concentration camps. Or I could mention more recent stuff like Ukraine supplying the second largest army during the illegitimate invasion of Iraq and participate in the slaughter of over a million men, women and children there or Ukraine's shameless and open cooperation with Takfiri terrorists (including al-Qaeda and ISIS) in Syria.

He accuses Ukraine of collaborating with Nazis and al-Qaeda/ISIS - these are baseless smears taken directly from Russian state propaganda. These false claims serve only to spread hatred against Ukraine and distort international understanding of its role in modern conflicts.

8. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5551741.msg65641945#msg65641945
Here we go again with endless, unreasonable accusations.
Do you really want me to quote this? It will only make the thread longer.

PS.

He should step away from the screen, take some deep breaths and realize that there's no way anybody can 'correct' anybody else's opinion through feedback or any other mechanism.  That's a fact that just needs to be accepted.

Oh no, my goal isn’t to convince anyone. With my negative feedback, I simply marked a user for the community - someone who engages in systematic, deceitful, manipulative anti-Western propaganda.
But he also got caught leaving a false negative review about me.
Now I don’t even want that review removed, because it perfectly reflects the character of pooya87.
That’s why I even took a screenshot and posted it in this thread.

PS2.
Almost forgot.
Iran. The Iranian regime regularly and literally chants “Death to America” (“مرگ بر آمریکا” / Marg bar Âmrikâ), especially during official events, Friday sermons, and rallies such as the anniversary of the Islamic Revolution, Quds Day, and others.
This phrase has become a symbol of the ideological stance of the Islamic regime since 1979, when the U.S. began to be viewed as the “Great Satan.”
Therefore, if pooya87 openly supports the current Iranian regime, it means he supports such slogans as well.

[yahoo62278]

I’m old enough to understand that my account means nothing to me.

I'm not going to waste my time with another post in this thread after this 1.

If your account means nothing to you, then the trust some random guy gave you shouldn't bother you either. You tagged him for his views that you do not agree with or whatever then you got tagged. NEITHER of you are right and this thread is just a shitshow at this point as you are just too stubborn to even care that some in this thread are trying to guide you. You only care about your opinion and your views.

Pretty sure no matter what anyone says isn't gonna matter.