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August 23, 2025, 03:23:16 PM
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Every enlightened couple that understands the economic situation in local and global economies will surely make solid plans before having kids, children are huge responsibility that parents must prepare themselves before having them. I have seen illiterate couples who are poor and keep having many children, I dare to challange some that I know personally why they don't go for family planning and not producing more kids.

I see nothing wrong with having multiple kids for a capable couple. Everyone knows what's actually right for them and they'll always go for it. Nobody would see fire and walk right straight to it, unless the Vietnam monk. However, kids are from God, and a pure gift that brings joy to families, while it's great to moderate the number of children we add to our homes, seeing not giving birth as a way to survive a harsh economy can be really disturbing, especially when the parents don't know their fate in life. Average people can get filthy rich, and most time, they'll begin to regret some decisions they didn't take while they had little.

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August 23, 2025, 03:54:09 PM
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Do you think people live in a disabled way all the time? Never because humans will live someday and live life and human life is never the same.  I will always say when having kids. Whatever the situation, if you are married, you must have kids. The child is a blessing and the family in which there is blessing is not a crisis of money. Because I think that the one who spends it is the same income.  For example, the population is high in your family, then your income will be much higher. Moreover, I never think that it is reasonable to have kids from the point of view of the economy. But if our children are educated in good education, then their future will be brighter. And when we grow old, they will nurture us beautifully. This is what every parent's child is asked for.
The cost of raising children is high. Child support benefits from the government alone cannot cover the cost of raising children in some countries.  I don't blame people who consider their financial standings before bearing children because they don't want to give birth to children they canni6 take care of. Religiously and culturally children are considered a blessing but you would have to plan how to take care of them because it's not cheap.

But I don't support the option of going childless. If the youth decide not to have children, it will cause demographic problems.  This will affect the country negatively economically and politically.

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August 23, 2025, 05:54:03 PM
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Every enlightened couple that understands the economic situation in local and global economies will surely make solid plans before having kids, children are huge responsibility that parents must prepare themselves before having them. I have seen illiterate couples who are poor and keep having many children, I dare to challange some that I know personally why they don't go for family planning and not producing more kids.

I see nothing wrong with having multiple kids for a capable couple. Everyone knows what's actually right for them and they'll always go for it. Nobody would see fire and walk right straight to it, unless the Vietnam monk. However, kids are from God, and a pure gift that brings joy to families, while it's great to moderate the number of children we add to our homes, seeing not giving birth as a way to survive a harsh economy can be really disturbing, especially when the parents don't know their fate in life. Average people can get filthy rich, and most time, they'll begin to regret some decisions they didn't take while they had little.

Habibi come to my country, are you comparing fire to having multiple kids that you can't cater for? This is complete joke, one burnt you up in second and kill you leaving your body in a agony state while the other isn't even close.

Stop the cap bro, many people are making less than or approximately $100 every month in my country and they have more than three children, they live a wretched life and they don't see anything wrong with it.

The problem is these kids will turn into nuisance, they will start creating havoc in the city because good education is impossible at this point, they can't even been fed full.

God is the creator of all humans and animals, let's stop fine running things as if babies are special gift, aren't you special too? You are once a baby, not giving birth is a way to survive harsh economy, it's not even about you, if you like go into the wilderness and live like an animal, just don't bring a baby into such suffering, one day they will look back and rain curse on you.

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August 23, 2025, 06:18:48 PM
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I believe this is a simple case, regardless if you are wealthy or poor if you are irresponsible, don't get married and have kids.  Best not to have sex so that there will be no accidental pregnancy.  People who are selfish and irresponsible have no right to have kids because it will be their partner and kids who will suffer.

Responsible parents will do whatever they can to support their family.  So this is not a question of whether a person is rich or poor, although poor people have lots of struggles, they, at the end, fuifill their responsibilities.  I have witnessed several poor family improving their social status because their kids are able to finish their studies and landed a good job improving their way of living.  

In personal perspective, if you are not ready to have a kids then don't.  No one is forcing anyone to mate with someone and have kids.

From a national economic perspective, there is a need for the continuation of lineage to maintain economic activities.  If all of a sudden, poor people stop breeding, it is not only themselves that suffer but also the economic growth.  This can be seen in the country that controls population growth to the extreme. Family planning is good, but extreme population control somehow deteriorates the economic capability and stability of a nation, what more if every poor person won't bear a child because of their situation.
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August 23, 2025, 07:17:54 PM
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Logically speaking, if you are not wealthy, you should not have children because they require a lot of money to raise.

But honestly, I don't believe this statement because children can bring blessings even if you are not wealthy. However, it comes back to each person's beliefs because every country has different views. In my country, for example, it is not a problem if people are not wealthy but still have many children because they believe that children can bring blessings according to their religion.

But we also need to think rationally that, even though children are a blessing from God, having too many can become a burden for the family. I remember my neighbor who had five children, with the parents working as ride-hailing drivers and street food vendors. The children often struggled to have proper meals each day and were very limited when it came to snacks and other small things. Sometimes I would give them snacks when they played with my child.

This shows that as parents, we shouldn’t be selfish by only thinking about having more children without being able to provide for them properly. Having children is not a problem as long as their needs are met, because neglecting them and making their lives difficult is an unpleasant act in the eyes of God.

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August 23, 2025, 07:48:18 PM
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What title says,

unless one is well off himself one should not be having kids, this is my opinion.

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Very good opinion and should be sounded down to the ear of Africans. Most poor Africans make as many as kids in the woman's ovary without having a good source of livelyhood, coupled with the menance of a bad government.
Most African Parents believe that child bearing is a gift from God and they must exhaust all the gifts they have.

Make only the kids you are able to give a good life. Don't bring innocent children out to the world to suffer. If possible don't have kids if you don't have it have to train kinds.

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August 23, 2025, 08:15:25 PM
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What title says,

unless one is well off himself one should not be having kids, this is my opinion.

What about you?
Even if you give birth to a child, your responsibility does not end, but rather it increases and if you give birth to a child in a situation where you are not financially well then there can be chaos. Many people, considering their social responsibility, are interested in having children even though their financial situation is not good, which is certainly not logical. You should establish yourself and if you can be financially well, then you should only have children. Otherwise, family lead unhappy life.

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But I don't support the option of going childless. If the youth decide not to have children, it will cause demographic problems.  This will affect the country negatively economically and politically.

My country is overpopulated, it would do immense good to country if my countrymen hold their dicks and only breed if they have means to.

Most African Parents believe that child bearing is a gift from God and they must exhaust all the gifts they have.

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Make only the kids you are able to give a good life. Don't bring innocent children out to the world to suffer.

Precisely. Childrens do not consent to be born, procreation is an act that should only be done if you can provide quality upbringing.

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Some decisions we should take, there're certain factors we ought to consider before further actions.One thing about Child birth and parenting is that it's not a decision to be taken just overnight.Choosing to give birth or not;they both have their costs, benefits and disadvantages depending on economical capacity and horizon.

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What title says,

unless one is well off himself one should not be having kids, this is my opinion.

What about you?

Having to do with parenting one needs to be prepared and it involves looking at other angles of life of which the economy aspect shouldn't be taking for granted. So if you're well to do all round then you can go on with having kids. Remember it's a decision and you must be prepared to face every stages that it comes with. I wouldn't want my kids to suffer so I'll do my best in setting the pace first before their arrival.

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I may have said this somewhere already but this is a new thread, so let me post what I wrote.

In finance, your family, kids, wife, mom, sibling and everyone except you is a liability so now you can decide whether you don't want the liabaility or not but the one primary reason for every living organism ever existed in this planet is to pass their generation to next one and this is not just limited to wealth alone.

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The global economic meltdown has made it so that anyone who is not well off financially is thinking less of having kids they bring up to the world to suffer.

Marriage and childbearing come with a lot of responsibilities; many people have learn about that. If someone is not financially buoyant or stable, marriage is not for them because what is in marriage is well more than love itself can solve. I love you can foot the family bills

This is some post I saw online and Iove it( image  below). Men should be courageous enough to make strong plans. Well, I dislike that the economy has made things become this way. My Grandpa was a locomotive driver and he was able to care for his 6 wives and 20+ children. That was possible because we had a better economy. Finally,  taking a bold steps into the unknown makes me want t try. This is something I want,  I will go all in.

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August 24, 2025, 10:59:18 AM
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unless one is well off himself one should not be having kids, this is my opinion.

What about you?

Coming from a third world country, you get to find out many people earning below the minimum wage if they earn from some work at all, having more kids than those that we might consider to be living well above the standards of living.

At times, this comes under culture and what people consider as wealth or good living. Some find this in the context of having to shelter and cloth them as we see with the nomads and others can as well count their wealth in the number of children they’ve got.

Overtime, you find many panhandles employing the services of their kids well below 10years of age, asking for arms on the streets, running towards vehicles in traffics and approaching strangers on the walkway to seek aids. It’s always a terrible sight and no matter what you do to help, they are never off the street and never tries to stop panhandling. To these persons, more children means more children on the streets to seek aid. You always find them on them nursing kids and you wonder just how are these persons still having unprotected s*x and more kids.

I don’t think they shouldn’t have kids, even them too needs to continue their lineage but, it should be limited as such with hopes that, their kids if not given, might be able to find a better future for themselves.

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August 24, 2025, 11:21:05 AM
 #114

What title says,

unless one is well off himself one should not be having kids, this is my opinion.

What about you?
I agree. Having kids is beautiful and they are the biggest gift to our life. But we also have to be objective, life is hard. Especially if you do not have a stable job. Some kids these days are quite confident and they think they can do it but at the end they always ask for help from their parents so now the parents have to help their kids and grandkids instead of the other way around. I hope kids these days end up becoming financial stable first before thinking about having kids. Because they will not be the only ones to find life difficult but especially their kids.

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This is some post I saw online and Iove it( image  below). Men should be courageous enough to make strong plans. Well, I dislike that the economy has made things become this way. My Grandpa was a locomotive driver and he was able to care for his 6 wives and 20+ children. That was possible because we had a better economy. Finally,  taking a bold steps into the unknown makes me want t try. This is something I want,  I will go all in.
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6 Wives, 20+ children, holy jesus!...and that image you shared, my honest opinion on it is that — that kind of mindset is retarded — why are people infatuated with bloodline? And infatuation with misery? And of perpetuating it? and of considering suffering a good thing?

On this particular part — "weak men plan, strong men plant" — yea, it takes much to plant, and nothing to plan; can definitely see who's stronger and who's weak.

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August 24, 2025, 12:38:58 PM
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Habibi come to my country, are you comparing fire to having multiple kids that you can't cater for? This is complete joke, one burnt you up in second and kill you leaving your body in a agony state while the other isn't even close.

Stop the cap bro, many people are making less than or approximately $100 every month in my country and they have more than three children, they live a wretched life and they don't see anything wrong with it.

Did you miss where I added for capable parents? And I don't like it when people think what causes bad upbringing is lack of money. The rich kids have their own bad behaviors too. Life isn't always about having the most money before you take a decision. Your 20th child could become the president. Think about it.

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unless one is well off himself one should not be having kids, this is my opinion.
For me a child's gift from God, while the economy of God's possessions.
Meaning: The child is obtained from the marriage can be interpreted as a form of generosity, dedication, responses to prayer to God to the individual.
Economy: Assets that God's entrusted to individuals to be maintained, cared for, stored or conveyed to others.

Meaning: Two things children and wealth have different lines of travel, sometimes this human is tested given by children but not wealth and vice versa is given wealth but not given children, this process is like day and night.
If it is rich in having children and poor do not have children, it means that the world is unbalanced.
Example:
In the company there are 1000 employees who work mostly poor people, if the poor do not have children automatically the rich will die no one works, The rich child does not want to be a laborer or other person's employees, he thinks his parents are rich and vice versa so all of this hangs with each other.

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If it is rich in having children and poor do not have children, it means that the world is unbalanced.
Example:
In the company there are 1000 employees who work mostly poor people, if the poor do not have children automatically the rich will die no one works, The rich child does not want to be a laborer or other person's employees, he thinks his parents are rich and vice versa so all of this hangs with each other.

If poor people stop breeding, there will be less competition in jobs and this will lead to better wages, thus better qol; plus you realize, you just said, poor people should continue to breed, so their children toil just as their parents did!? How bad that is?

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This is some post I saw online and Iove it( image  below). Men should be courageous enough to make strong plans. Well, I dislike that the economy has made things become this way. My Grandpa was a locomotive driver and he was able to care for his 6 wives and 20+ children. That was possible because we had a better economy. Finally,  taking a bold steps into the unknown makes me want t try. This is something I want,  I will go all in.

I know someone who jumped into marriage because his age mates were getting married. A year later, they had a child, and the family became bigger. His small salary could not sustain the family, and he was running into serious debts. It got to a point he abandoned the family and ran away. So, do not read much into the motivational post. Look before you leap. Have something good going on for yourself before you embark on the journey. Raising a child can be quite expensive.

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August 24, 2025, 06:22:28 PM
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6 Wives, 20+ children, holy jesus!...and that image you shared, my honest opinion on it is that — that kind of mindset is retarded — why are people infatuated with bloodline? And infatuation with misery? And of perpetuating it? and of considering suffering a good thing?

On this particular part — "weak men plan, strong men plant" — yea, it takes much to plant, and nothing to plan; can definitely see who's stronger and who's weak.
My first reaction when I read his post, which religion allow to have 6 wives? Cheesy

AFAIK most religions only allow 1, while in Islam allow up to 4 wives, so it seems to me like his grandparent an atheist and his dream is to fuck with many healthy women. I know people can just go to prostitutes if they want to have sex, but some people don't want to do that due to health risk.

Most people who have many wives will do everything to earn money including illegal and harmful ways.

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