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September 03, 2025, 02:19:53 PM
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When it comes to child bearing, you need to be very sensitive that no one is coming to help you, which only you have the responsibility to provide  for the children.
Parents should be prepared to take absolute care of their children before intending to start making baby it is their responsibility to protect and provide for their kids so before two adults comes together to become husband and wife they should have something that generates income before child bearing.



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September 03, 2025, 02:50:34 PM
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Go multiply doesn't also mean people should start producing children without having an income or a job at hand. Go and multiply is only used for those who are prepared to go into marriage,  and being prepared for marriage doesn't guarantee one must give birth to many children but only the ones that you can cater for. When it comes to child bearing, you need to be very sensitive that no one is coming to help you, which only you have the responsibility to provide  for the children.
You know some persons are funny to the extent that they fail to understand that what makes you a complete parents is the ability to provide for the family, whats the need of multiplying problems for yourself when you can't solve the problems, kids are gift from God we know that but it becomes inadequate decision to have many kid when cant be able to take good care of them, the holy book saying go into the world and multiply, is there a anywhere it says, go into the world and multiply without being able to take care of the offsprings, people are just good at saying things that was said but at the same time being unable to get the full knowledge and information such saying carries.

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September 03, 2025, 03:03:58 PM
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It's simple, if you don't have the capacity to take care of kids wait till you can especially if you live in a country with a bad economy...many people go through the stress of raising kids that can't take care of properly, this is why we have kids that are unable to go to school in our society...Giving birth is not a competition, do it at your own pace, if you allow others to pressure you into doing this when you are not ready no one would take the responsibility but you
Talking about capacity to raise children, what is the total amount required to take good care of children in countries with bad economy especially for African countries that 80 percent of their citizens hardly had 2 square meals on daily basis. Children are blessing from god that at times even open doors for parents once they come into their home, waiting for financial stability because having children what if it comes when you are 60 or it never even come to reality does that means you won't have children when we all know they are the joy of every man.

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September 03, 2025, 03:13:14 PM
 #204

When it comes to child bearing, you need to be very sensitive that no one is coming to help you, which only you have the responsibility to provide  for the children.
Parents should be prepared to take absolute care of their children before intending to start making baby it is their responsibility to protect and provide for their kids so before two adults comes together to become husband and wife they should have something that generates income before child bearing.

Well, planning and thorough preparation are essential for anyone who is truly ready to have children. Having children isn't just about financial responsibility, like providing for them by providing them with sufficient nutritious food and meeting all their growth needs. It's also about preparing how to raise them so they become well-rounded individuals. So, preparation isn't just about finances, but also about knowledge and insight, and how to treat them well.

However, sometimes readiness comes when they enter our lives. And sometimes the drive to work harder comes when we have children. And sometimes, even though we're financially ready, we can't have children. So, I prefer things to flow naturally. Preparation is essential. But we can't determine when we'll be ready or not. If we want children, just go for it and don't worry too much about things that are still uncertain.

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September 03, 2025, 05:05:39 PM
Last edit: September 03, 2025, 10:42:26 PM by DiMarxist
 #205

What title says,

unless one is well off himself one should not be having kids, this is my opinion.

What about you?
Same and I believe that's every human opinion, every human in their right sense of mind would not want to give birth to children when they are not yet financially stable true but in a situation, where one is getting older and not that financial stable, one must have children to continue his or her linage. That's why we have family planning, both couples come together to decide how many children to give birth to if there is no enough finance. Because bringing kids into this world is a lot of expenses let aside education from the upbringing you spend up till when the child is grown enough to provide for his or herself but that's In the urban areas tho, In the rural areas you hear about just one person having up to 6-7 children without having any finances, which is very very bad. So yes having finance before producing children is a good one also because bringing a child to this world comes with so much responsibilities, both physically, emotionally and financially, parenting is not just all about love and care it's also involves stability. Children deserve attention, care, love, proper upbringing, good education and all this involves proper planning it just all about hope, or all about saying tomorrow go better.

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September 03, 2025, 06:55:57 PM
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Well, planning and thorough preparation are essential for anyone who is truly ready to have children. Having children isn't just about financial responsibility, like providing for them by providing them with sufficient nutritious food and meeting all their growth needs. It's also about preparing how to raise them so they become well-rounded individuals. So, preparation isn't just about finances, but also about knowledge and insight, and how to treat them well.

However, sometimes readiness comes when they enter our lives. And sometimes the drive to work harder comes when we have children. And sometimes, even though we're financially ready, we can't have children. So, I prefer things to flow naturally. Preparation is essential. But we can't determine when we'll be ready or not. If we want children, just go for it and don't worry too much about things that are still uncertain.
It's not possible to prepare for knowledge, insight and how to grow your child if you're not financially good in the first place.

So, someone who want to have kids and they're not rich in the first place will high likely won't be a successful Dad like the criteria you mentioned above. In order to make money, people have to sacrifice time, effort and mental, they have no time to learn how to be Dad and taught their child.

I have no problem for people who set such criteria, as long as they fulfill what they said, not just talking.


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September 03, 2025, 08:19:15 PM
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Go multiply doesn't also mean people should start producing children without having an income or a job at hand. Go and multiply is only used for those who are prepared to go into marriage,  and being prepared for marriage doesn't guarantee one must give birth to many children but only the ones that you can cater for. When it comes to child bearing, you need to be very sensitive that no one is coming to help you, which only you have the responsibility to provide  for the children.
You know some persons are funny to the extent that they fail to understand that what makes you a complete parents is the ability to provide for the family, whats the need of multiplying problems for yourself when you can't solve the problems, kids are gift from God we know that but it becomes inadequate decision to have many kid when cant be able to take good care of them, the holy book saying go into the world and multiply, is there a anywhere it says, go into the world and multiply without being able to take care of the offsprings, people are just good at saying things that was said but at the same time being unable to get the full knowledge and information such saying carries.
It becomes a big problem to a man that didn't plan well on how many kids his income can carter for till they grow up. Those are the important things that a responsible man should put into consideration before giving birth to the number of kids he want. When you give birth to more than the number of children that your financial strength can contain, you have brought more problem to the society because the society will also suffer for it.

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September 03, 2025, 08:43:52 PM
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People need a good mentality, financial and knowledge before they want to have kids.
It is sad because most people who are having kids, and especially people who are having many kids, don't have any of what you just said.

These thing three are bare minimum before someone want to have a kids, I would want to add one more: make sure you've finished your single life. What I mean, if you still want to have fun, fuck many women, get drunk, and other "bad lifestyle", stay single until you're ready to be a husband and a dad.
Neither this sadly, the cheating and divorce rates are through the roof. It is clear that something is very wrong with marriages. Without children even many would fall apart, but it is not good that children are being used to save marriages. It is unfair to them.
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September 03, 2025, 09:24:53 PM
Last edit: September 03, 2025, 09:48:59 PM by Salahmu
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Talking about capacity to raise children, what is the total amount required to take good care of children in countries with bad economy especially for African countries that 80 percent of their citizens hardly had 2 square meals on daily basis. Children are blessing from god that at times even open doors for parents once they come into their home, waiting for financial stability because having children what if it comes when you are 60 or it never even come to reality does that means you won't have children when we all know they are the joy of every man.

There is no fixed amount for child raising because even if someone has 10 million of my currency on there account there is a high probability of not having any single one left before the child will even get to higher institutions in schooling so actually instead of someone to ask of the money that should be needed they should instead get a stable source whether working or self employed because that is what can guarantee and last till they saw there children from all levels in education, some persons do not see what is ahead of them but instead they only see what the material things can buy for them at the time.

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Talking about capacity to raise children, what is the total amount required to take good care of children in countries with bad economy especially for African countries that 80 percent of their citizens hardly had 2 square meals on daily basis. Children are blessing from god that at times even open doors for parents once they come into their home, waiting for financial stability because having children what if it comes when you are 60 or it never even come to reality does that means you won't have children when we all know they are the joy of every man.

There is no fixed amount for child raising because even if someone has 10 million on there account there is a high probability of not having any single one left before the child will even get to higher institutions in schooling so actually instead of someone to ask of the money that should be needed they should instead get a stable source whether working or self employed because that is what can guarantee and last till they saw there children from all levels in education, some persons do not see what is ahead of them but instead they only see what the material things can buy for them at the time.
You are going to spend 10 million dollars in 18 years of your life? Tell me how many people in the world have and spend this amount of money in 18 years? 1%?  Roll Eyes People avoid private laboratory testing for their children when tests are $100-$500 and my man talks about spending $500k yearly.  Cheesy
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Talking about capacity to raise children, what is the total amount required to take good care of children in countries with bad economy especially for African countries that 80 percent of their citizens hardly had 2 square meals on daily basis. Children are blessing from god that at times even open doors for parents once they come into their home, waiting for financial stability because having children what if it comes when you are 60 or it never even come to reality does that means you won't have children when we all know they are the joy of every man.


Oh wow! Did you mean that for real? That 80% of Africans hardly afford 2 meals a day?

Is it really that bad in Africa? I bet Africans still must be savages, living in house made of mold and don’t know what a sky scrapper is you know, don’t have access to some of the best of technologies and still rides horses!

We say these things and when it’s Africa, it seems true, easy to accept but, mind knowing the land, the people and appreciate its culture.

Africans still get to live rich lives!



When it comes to raising a child, it’s no easy mile and you don’t get to relax it on finances alone. Yes, finance plays a huge role to this but, you get to teach morals and character too. I don’t advocate having way too many children if you haven’t gotten a stable source of income. You need it, you don’t get to put them kids through the harsh realities of your youths, you owe it to them to make it better. Many parents sacrifice their happiness for their kids as it should be but, it wouldn’t be so hard or get to that should you make proper planning and investments when you are a youth.

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Oh wow! Did you mean that for real? That 80% of Africans hardly afford 2 meals a day?

Is it really that bad in Africa? I bet Africans still must be savages, living in house made of mold and don’t know what a sky scrapper is you know, don’t have access to some of the best of technologies and still rides horses!

We say these things and when it’s Africa, it seems true, easy to accept but, mind knowing the land, the people and appreciate its culture.

Africans still get to live rich lives!



When it comes to raising a child, it’s no easy mile and you don’t get to relax it on finances alone. Yes, finance plays a huge role to this but, you get to teach morals and character too. I don’t advocate having way too many children if you haven’t gotten a stable source of income. You need it, you don’t get to put them kids through the harsh realities of your youths, you owe it to them to make it better. Many parents sacrifice their happiness for their kids as it should be but, it wouldn’t be so hard or get to that should you make proper planning and investments when you are a youth.
Yes some countries especially Nigeria is still living in the 15th centuries in terms of development but there leaders go about fabricating fack stories about the level of development in the country just to convince the world that they are working in the country, all are  fallacies just to justify there level of corrupt activities when the country have been heavily blessed by god in mineral resources of all kind. The leaders all believe in self wealth, embezzlement of public funds and never consider there subjects wellbeing at any time, if i may ask why do there leaders prefer going for medical treatment outside the country when they have hospitals.
Not that there are no rich people over there but when above 60 percent of citizens are living below average life it means the citizens are suffering and affording some good schools become an issue.

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Talking about capacity to raise children, what is the total amount required to take good care of children in countries with bad economy especially for African countries that 80 percent of their citizens hardly had 2 square meals on daily basis. Children are blessing from god that at times even open doors for parents once they come into their home, waiting for financial stability because having children what if it comes when you are 60 or it never even come to reality does that means you won't have children when we all know they are the joy of every man.


Oh wow! Did you mean that for real? That 80% of Africans hardly afford 2 meals a day?

Is it really that bad in Africa? I bet Africans still must be savages, living in house made of mold and don’t know what a sky scrapper is you know, don’t have access to some of the best of technologies and still rides horses!

We say these things and when it’s Africa, it seems true, easy to accept but, mind knowing the land, the people and appreciate its culture.

Africans still get to live rich lives!



When it comes to raising a child, it’s no easy mile and you don’t get to relax it on finances alone. Yes, finance plays a huge role to this but, you get to teach morals and character too. I don’t advocate having way too many children if you haven’t gotten a stable source of income. You need it, you don’t get to put them kids through the harsh realities of your youths, you owe it to them to make it better. Many parents sacrifice their happiness for their kids as it should be but, it wouldn’t be so hard or get to that should you make proper planning and investments when you are a youth.
I don't like the opinion of OP because of we have more child then they will earn and father will be rich and there should be no negative idea about child because happiness is related to the child and that has great importance in life . Many people are doing jobs and they have no child and they are not happy with their life . There should be person who will continue the family, otherwise family will be cut off their forefathers streak . Money is important in life but after marriage and child your income will increase and you will be more happy in life .OP has no awareness of life because I think he is immature at that time and after few years he will be mature and he will see the importance of child .

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Oh wow! Did you mean that for real? That 80% of Africans hardly afford 2 meals a day?

Is it really that bad in Africa? I bet Africans still must be savages, living in house made of mold and don’t know what a sky scrapper is you know, don’t have access to some of the best of technologies and still rides horses!

We say these things and when it’s Africa, it seems true, easy to accept but, mind knowing the land, the people and appreciate its culture.

Africans still get to live rich lives!



When it comes to raising a child, it’s no easy mile and you don’t get to relax it on finances alone. Yes, finance plays a huge role to this but, you get to teach morals and character too. I don’t advocate having way too many children if you haven’t gotten a stable source of income. You need it, you don’t get to put them kids through the harsh realities of your youths, you owe it to them to make it better. Many parents sacrifice their happiness for their kids as it should be but, it wouldn’t be so hard or get to that should you make proper planning and investments when you are a youth.
Yes some countries especially Nigeria is still living in the 15th centuries in terms of development but there leaders go about fabricating fack stories about the level of development in the country just to convince the world that they are working in the country, all are  fallacies just to justify there level of corrupt activities when the country have been heavily blessed by god in mineral resources of all kind. The leaders all believe in self wealth, embezzlement of public funds and never consider there subjects wellbeing at any time, if i may ask why do there leaders prefer going for medical treatment outside the country when they have hospitals.
Not that there are no rich people over there but when above 60 percent of citizens are living below average life it means the citizens are suffering and affording some good schools become an issue.

It’s really not as black and white as many people outside the continent imagine africa is not a single story of poverty or savagery there are big modern cities with skyscrapers highways tech hubs and wealthy people alongside villages where life is still very tough it’s a land of contrast where some nations are developing fast while others are struggling with corruption bad leadership and lack of infrastructure so when people generalize africa as backward it ignores the reality that it is both rich in culture and resources but also facing deep social and economic challenges.

Raising children in such environments becomes even harder because parents have to balance financial strain with teaching values and morals many sacrifice everything to give their kids a chance at a better life but it’s also true that poor planning and having more children than one can support makes the struggle heavier leadership failures worsen the situation because resources that should be used for schools hospitals and jobs often end up in the pockets of a few until corruption is reduced and opportunities are spread fairly many ordinary africans will keep fighting to survive on little even though the land itself is rich enough to sustain much more.

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What title says,

unless one is well off himself one should not be having kids, this is my opinion.

What about you?
A man is not qualified to marry when he cannot support himself. If he cannot earn his own income, then how will he feed his wife after getting married and how will he establish himself because he himself is an incompetent person. How can he have children if he is not able to earn enough to feed his wife? There is no question of having children here.

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September 04, 2025, 02:32:14 PM
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The earlier African youths  consciously identify bad governance as the primary cause of backwardness and high poverty rate and try finding the suitable means of revamping the leadership structure, the same topic will continue coming up on daily basis. How can we live in a country where political leaders without vision becomes our most preferred option when it comes to electing political representatives all because of there complete willingness in offering bribes in exchange of the citizens right of selecting there leaders when we all know it will indirectly affect us tomorrow.
Until the wrong selection method is stopped, children will not stop suffering due to lack of jobs to parents and poor attention as a result of too much involvement of parents just to provide for there education and so on

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September 04, 2025, 02:53:50 PM
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I don't like the opinion of OP because of we have more child then they will earn and father will be rich...

Yea, I have seen mentality before, and I am not fan of it. You are creating child for your own selfish pursuit.

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Many people are doing jobs and they have no child and they are not happy with their life.

Fair enough, and I'll do you one better — many people who have children are unhappy.

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There should be person who will continue the family, otherwise family will be cut off their forefathers streak.

Yeah, bloodline one, I have seen that too, not fan of it either. Let my bloodline vanish, not a bother.

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Money is important in life but after marriage and child your income will increase and you will be more happy in life.

After marriage and child, your expenses increase, if you are not earning enough, you will be miserable.

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OP has no awareness of life because I think he is immature at that time and after few years he will be mature and he will see the importance of child .

I know what I am talking about, you can take it as you may.

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September 05, 2025, 01:21:53 PM
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Fair enough, and I'll do you one better — many people who have children are unhappy.
It is true, and the main reason is that they had children for bad reasons. Many do it because that is what you are supposed to do in terms of expectations from society around you. Others do it to try to repair their bad marriage or empty lives by having children and so on.

Yeah, bloodline one, I have seen that too, not fan of it either. Let my bloodline vanish, not a bother.
It is a dumb argument as most bloodlines are trash, and many even have a lot of diseases. Do the world a favor and let it die out.
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September 05, 2025, 01:43:40 PM
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What title says,

unless one is well off himself one should not be having kids, this is my opinion.

What about you?
This statement does not always work. I have personally seen that those whose parents are very financially well-off do not understand the reality well and the success rate of such people is very low. Because they have never seen poverty since childhood and have grown up with luxury which never makes them face reality. But a child of a poor family lives with various struggles from childhood and constantly faces reality due to which he has the desire to grow up and do something good from childhood due to which his career is very good. However, the children of the poor get bored while fighting with reality and start blaming their parents for their condition, so your statement cannot be called wrong too.

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September 05, 2025, 02:07:21 PM
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This statement does not always work. I have personally seen that those whose parents are very financially well-off do not understand the reality well and the success rate of such people is very low. Because they have never seen poverty since childhood and have grown up with luxury which never makes them face reality.

For those children born in well-off family, reality is that they are well-off, and wdym their success rate is low? Children who are who are born in well-off families do mostly come to do well in life while those born in poor families, there are only few exceptions who come out from the poor conditions they were born in.

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But a child of a poor family lives with various struggles from childhood, and constantly faces reality due to which he has the desire to grow up and do something good from childhood due to which his career is very good.

Wow! People's infatuation with glorifying suffering.

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However, the children of the poor get bored while fighting with reality and start blaming their parents for their condition, so your statement cannot be called wrong too.

...And they blame rightfully.

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